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by skinsrgods on Feb 13, 2008 7:14 PM EST

i heard some rumor's this morning on ESPN that the redskins are looking at chad johnson. and on the rumor central part on ESPN.com it saya that the skins may be targeting chad johnson. do you think this is true and if so, a good choice? personally i like him but i was wondering what everyone else would think.

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Good choice?

It depends on what you mean by good choice.

Is he a good player? Yes.

Is he a distraction? Yes.

Is he going to be worth the price (a 1st and 3rd round pick, two 2nd round picks, etc.) seeing as he is already past the prime (he is nearing, if not already, 30) of his career? Well, that is the question... I'd say no. Others here on the site say yes.

Check out some of our other threads (here for starters) and welcome home.

by TexSkins on Feb 13, 2008 7:22 PM EST reply actions

Great choice...

Chad Johnson was only a distraction because the Bengals made him out to be one. I think that they were so focused on looking more professional the last couple of years after having half their team getting in trouble with the law. The Bengals obviously want an image that Chad Johnson doesnt fit into. Everything I've read about him in the past says that he is very well liked and a good teammate. He works his ass off and puts up HUGE numbers on the field. I think it would be great for the Skins to get him. That would be fun to watch. I wouldnt give up our first rounder, but a 2nd I wouldnt mind. Is there any way we can help the Bengals with that 8 mil cap hit they would take by trading him? Sounds like that is what is holding this up.

by Romans12 on Feb 13, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions

Someone correct me if I'm wrong..

but I think that is why player-for-player trades don't occur as much in the NFL. Unlike some other sports (the NBA for instance), there is no matching salaries or whatnot. A cap hit is a cap hit, resulting in dead cap space.

I know there are some ways around this (certain periods when players get cut because the cap hit can be spread out over 2 years), but with a contract like 85's, it will be tough.

I'm not a capologist. Don't pretend to be. Someone who deals with numbers better than I do chime in with the proper answer.

Oh, and there is no way you can say that Ocho Cinco isn't a distraction. He might be funny and charming and a great teammate and a hard worker... but when you have to answer more questions in the locker room because of what another player did (TD celebration, comments, etc.) that is a distraction.

I make the distinction between distraction and negative distraction. For most of his career, 85 has been the former, but as of late, he's been the latter.

by TexSkins on Feb 13, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions

Contract numbers...at the bottom

The signing bonus is what accelarates, if I understand correctly which if I did then I would be a well paid capologist.

In 2006 Johnson's signing bonus of 5.5 Million is spaced out over 5 years or 1.1 Million per year. With 3 years left 2008-2011 the Bengals would take a hit for 3.5 million.
Continuing to look at the contract another 5 million in bonuses are paid for 2007. 4 years at 1.25, and again with 3 years left (2008,2009,2010) another 3.75 hit to bengals for this year.

Total hit to Bengals cap this year if Johnson is traded 3.5 + 3.75 = 7.25 (Best guess)

After June 1st if a player is cut this allows the bonuses and salary to be spread over the next 2 years, Don't know if a player traded after this date it follows those same rules or not.

Contract from ESPN:
Johnson will receive a $5 million signing bonus, a $250,000 reporting bonus, a $250,000 workout bonus and a base salary of $2.75 million for 2006. In 2007, he is due a $3.5 million option bonus, a reporting bonus of $1.5 million, a $250,000 workout bonus and a $2.5 million base salary.
The base salaries for the balance of the deal are as follows: $3 million (for 2008), $4.5 million (2009), $5 million (2010) and $6 million (2011).

by dr WNC on Feb 13, 2008 11:04 PM EST up reply actions

He'll want and receive

a new contract if we trade for him.

Go Register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Feb 13, 2008 11:22 PM EST up reply actions

Agent led talk, has no walk

The more you look into Chad Johnson, the more the trade rumors seems to be the agent trying to get something started when nothing is really moving...On 2/13 from ESPN
Marvin Lewis said: "No. 1, the guy has a contract through 2011, OK. No one within the Bengals organization has ever spoken of or ever uttered anything about trading Chad Johnson, nor will he be traded. There is no such thing as behind-the-door dealings in the NFL. That does not occur because the team in question (the Bengals) is not willing to trade their player nor have they thought about trading their player or discussed trading their player, or will they discuss trading their player. So I think that's pretty clear. Things can move on."

by dr WNC on Feb 14, 2008 9:08 AM EST reply actions