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Friday Fandomonium

2009-11-20T14:50:50Z

It’s Friday which means the week following our huge win over Denver is almost over, our game against Dallas is quickly approaching and it’s time for us to get the blatant homerism out of our system while we still can. Time to check your reasoning & logic at the door, strap on your rose tinted goggles and take the jump.

With Portis out another game, the Simmons' Ewing theory is in full affect; Betts, Cartwright and Ganther will split a healthy dose of downhill carries while mixing in a few screens to make Dallas pay for bringing the blitz.

Sanatana in the slot!?!?! I LOVE IT please please please put a LB on him or put your garbage converted corner/safety Ball on him. Dallas knows what Sanatana can do to them so after he moves the chains a few times on the first drive they will be forced to roll double coverage inside that’s when Thomas & Kelly are going to do more work outside than a farmer in early spring.

Dallas secondary meet Devin Thomas make sure you get a good look now because Sunday all your going to see is a blur making you miss as he burns down the side line.

Our D-Line is going to have Romo running for his life. RAK got his taste for blood in week 3 and has been starving ever since. This week he comes out with a multi sack game. After two 3 and outs Romo will be forcing the ball out earlier in order to keep himself off of IR which is when we see D-Hall take his first pick to the house!

Fletcher and Rocky will take care of anything you bring thru the middle and Rogers is going to have a huge game, no mistakes just hard hitting shut down coverage for 60 minutes.

Enter Landry; Dallas’s struggling offense looks to get their speedster Felix Jones the ball to provide a spark in the second half. He hits his hole turns on the jets just in time to get absolutely flattened by Landry flying horizontally thru the air, Sean Taylor style, Jones wakes up with no memory, no ball and no way he’s returning to the field this week.

Skins History

2009-11-20T05:35:11Z

G'day All

Trawling through the NFL.Com site for Redskins stuff I came across a page that has some good stuff from the glory years, particuarly the SB seasons and some rivalry sfutt

the link is

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-americas-game#page:2/perPage:50

There is about 130 videos I think and about 10 are Redskins related,. one is about a 91 brawl with the Cowboys, some Riggins sfuff and the like

plus here at this link there is 2 part Riggo feature from NFL films

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d8025e72a/John-Riggins-Part-I

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d801c5527/NFL-Films-Presents-John-Riggins-Part-II

and a Riggo feature

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d801305a7/John-Riggins-Feature

and a Doug Williams thing

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d8012b88f/Doug-Williams-SB-MVP

Just thought in this below par season you may enjoy reliving some of the great moments from the past

We have a player of the week......

2009-11-18T16:56:32Z

Hunter Smith just announced as the NFC Special Teams Player of the week. First punter to ever run and throw for a TD in the same season!!! Now we just need him to catch one! Positivity week continues!!! I would also like to see Orakpo get NFC Defensive RC of the week as well. We need to really start pushing this guy in every ballot that comes available so we can get him to pass Cushing for RC of the year! I was skeptical Orakpo was going to be a Vernon Gholston of this year's draft.....BOY WAS I WRONG! Kid is a beast and I am so happy he is a Redskin.

COWGIRLS hate WEEK!!!!!

2009-11-17T19:05:07Z

There is nothing I hate more than a blue and silver star taking up the entire back windshield of a car in an I-66 traffic jam. There is nothing I hate more than anything that has been branded or should I say runined by the mark of the beast. Another thing I HATE (oooops its happiness week) is Jerry "Satan's boss" Jones that damned evil grin he always has. I mean the man just looks evil. Lets not forget boss Hogg in a coaches outfit.. The guy could not coach someone on how to eat an orange. I can not wait until we stomp the crap out of them on their own one point whatever billion dollar field. oh man it will be so great.....

Im gonna make a 5 layer "send ya to the craper" dip and laugh like no sain person has ever laughed before... It will be glorious.....

Take your time... Breath deaply and focus all of you will and anger onto this post.. Just vent and let it flow. (OH MY GOD I SOUND LIKE ZORN).

Like my therapist once said "Tell me whats bothering you" about the DALLAS COWGIRLS

Poll

Will the running game be too much for the cowboys and allow us to win again?

Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Redskins Name Case

2009-11-16T19:23:49Z

From CNN:

The justices without comment refused to intervene in the dispute, effectively ending the suit.

A lawsuit was first filed in 1992. Among the plaintiffs is Suzan Shown Harjo of Washington, a Cheyenne/Hodulgee Muscogee and a longtime advocate for Native American rights.

The Redskins name and logo was adopted in 1933 when the team was based in Boston, Massachusetts, and had been known as the Braves. In a legal brief filed with the court, the team said the name was changed to honor the Redskins coach at the time, William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, a Native American.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted a formal trademark in 1967, and it has been renewed several times since. The team has said it has spent "millions of dollars ... promoting, advertising, and protecting its mark."

Update by KevinE: Redskins are not of the muck yet. Native Americans can still win the battle where Snyder loses the 'Redskins' trademark, which means he'd have to change the name if he ever wants to make a buck.

http://trueslant.com/KashmirHill/2009/11/16/washington-redskins-name-is-safe-for-now/

So this is what winning feels like. I remember now!

2009-11-16T14:12:42Z

I could not help but notice a little extra fire in JC's eyes yesterday. I had to ask myself a few questions that I'm hoping you all will comment on.

1) Was JC a little bitter that Denver chose Orton over him? When Orton made a big play in the first half, it seemed JC was trying to be more aggressive than he has been.

2) Did someone teach JC how to move his feet, or did he really have that much more "Time"? I kept referring to him as twinkletoes because I never saw him stationary. He was always on his toes, and seemed to have a lot more pocket presence.

3) Was JC's decision making better yesterday, or was the playcalling finally fixed? He had a couple great scambles when things broke down. It seemed like he really just came to play yesterday.

Kudos to Ladell. Good game yesterday. Why can't we get the ball into Malcolm Kelly's hands more. He is a man-child!

Positivity week!!!

2009-11-15T23:46:43Z

G;day All

My my my, doesnt the air smell sweeter and the sun shine brighter today!!! WOOOHOOO

I have a suggestion...... for the last couple of months it has been a bad time to be a Skins fan, and the posts on this board have (quite rightly) reflected that dissapointment and frustration, and most of the posts and comments have (again quite rightly) been of the negative variety, Now we have some tough games coming up so no doubt them same issues will present themselves for us to complain about as the year goes on,

BUT

I think it would be a good idea, to devote this week, to all positive all the time week, focusing on all the good things that we did today, all the great plays, Breakout performances, good coaching moves, big hits, great cover tackles, terrific catches, players showing potential, you know all that sort of stuff..... If not the whole week, then maybe just this thread, but either way....

What a great day to be alive, a big win against a team with a winning record, quality O-Line play, BETTS!!!!, B-Rak continuing his outstanding rookie season, Great Int by Hall, Carter continuing to reek havoc from the edge, YEP there is hope in the world!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My Dream Overhaul

2009-11-15T14:33:35Z

The folowing scenerio would be an agressive overhaul to the 2010 Redskins:

First lets start at the top. A new GM is needed. We hire Bill Cower, and give him both head coach and GM responsibilities. He is competent enough to bring in successful coaches to surround himself with.

Second, a complete overhaul of the offense is needed. Lets start with the QB. JC is out. His descision making and leadership have been questioned. We move forward with Sam Bradford as our first round pick. In the second RD we draft Ciron Black, OT/OG LSU. We moved Portis in the offseason for a third rd pick. With that pick we draft Sam Young, OT Notre Dame. With our 4th rd pick we take LeGarrett Blount RB Oregon. He slips into the 4th due to off field problems, but his talent can't be denied. We use our later round draft picks to pick up depth at OL and a LB. In free agency we add(for a ton of money), LT Marcus McNeil from San Deigo to fill the void left by Samuels. We also add Jerious Noorwood, RB Falcons to compete at RB. We cut ties with Randel-El, Cartright, Mike Sellers, Mike Williams, Levi Jones, Bastista, Montgomery and Betts.

Here is our new offense:

Mitchell McNeil Dock Rabach Black Young Cooley Thomas/Kelly

Moss Bradford

Williams

Norwood/Blount

Third, Our defense is changed to a 3-4. We cut Griffin and Carter. We sign Dumervil OLB Denver. All other parts remain the same.

Here is our new D:

Jarmon Haynsworth Alaxander

Orakpo Fletcher McIntosh Dumervil

Hall Rogers

Horton Landry

do you think somebody might be using a voodoo doll?

2009-11-15T13:51:34Z

I was just going over the roster this morning in preparation for the game(wanted to see who was starting on the line, punter, running back, TE etc etc)and I just realized something...

every starter whose first name is Chris is severely injured!

I was almost going to go as far as say every starter whose first name begins with a C. is severely hurt, but Cory Raymer isn't on the injury list. Colt Brennan is, Clinton Portis is, Chris Cooley is, Chris Samuels is, Chris Horton is, you get the idea... What gives?

Washington Redskins roster

Joe Bugel is no E. F. Hutton ...

2009-11-15T10:49:44Z

I guess most of us on here remember the old commercial " When E. F. Hutton talks people listen." It was the commercial were you had people talking about finacial advice and when they would start talking the whole room would stop and listen for some good advice. No matter what they were doing at the time the room would go silent.. Can you imagine the pre draft meetings last year when Joe Bugel spoke the whole meeting room must have kept on talking.

I know he was the Coach of the HOGGS but now maybe he is just trying to add to his retirement funds.

Think about it if he was such a respected coach why did he voice his opinion and Management not listen???

Lets just say he thought his O-line was fine the way it was !! If this was the case he really is to old for the job.

If he did voice his opinion and Management did not listen and he is such a great O-line coach why did he not resign ?? Does he not have any respect for himself ?? ( Great Coaches can always find a job)

Either management does not respect him, he lacks self respect or he is senial.

Either way he is no E. F. Hutton ......

Throw Vinny To the Curb

2009-11-15T01:21:20Z

Fire Vinny

We needed offensive line depth, we got a 400lb defensive lineman. We needed recievers we got 2 high draft pick guys that cant learn to run patterns. What we really need is a top flight coach who tells daniel snyder what the "DEAL IS". Our team is so misguided in talent and management that we are looking at 3-5 yrs till possibly we can dig ourselves out. But in order to do that we need first to get in place the right heads who can steer not blindly guide this ship in the direction of respectability. I am very sick of watching Vinny's guys and even more sick of listening to vinny whine about the coach.

Where is the hate redskin fans ???

2009-11-14T20:15:59Z

OK, people I have a few questions to ask and maybe I can get some answers based on fact not on emotion only !

1. Why did it take some of you guys up until now to realize our offensive line is crap and not Campbell ??

2. When will the people that still think Campbell is crap realize that it is really our offensive line ??

3. If our offensive line is crap and it was pretty average last year as well how is it that our offensive line coach Bugel escapes any criticism ??? ( The million dollar question )

4. As redskin fans if we all know that bringing in a new qb next year without upgrading the O- line first will be a disaster why are we not screaming that loud and clear??

5.For all of you so called Redskin fans that wanted to bring in Cutler or M. Sanchez aren't you glad we still have Campbell ??

O-Line or QB?? WWBD???

2009-11-14T17:15:33Z

That is probably the question that our FO will be asking themselves in April & with our record it will probably be a top five pick. It looks like Hogs Haven is pretty evenly split on which direction to go with all agreeing that O-line needs to be addressed but disagreeing on the 1st pick. Both sides have a very good argument with some very good QBs coming out this year (Claussen, Stafford, McCoy, Snead, Tebow & most likely Locker) on one side & the need to be able to protect whoever is behind center on the other. It is also a relatively weak year for O-line this year as well which also confuses the picture. IMO tho, it is crystal clear, this team needs a stud Left Tackle to anchor what should be a totally revamped Offensive Line. The Offensive Line is the multiplier on any football team, they make the QB twice as good if they can give him 4.5 seconds to throw or half as good if he only has 3 seconds to throw ( JC seems to have about 2 seconds ) They give the WRs more time to get open & bigger holes for RBs to run through. Great O-lines are Redskins football ( hence the name Hogs Haven ) & us having such a patchwork Line is ridiculous. We already have one of the young "can't miss" QBs in Colt Brennan & it would be nice to see what JC can do with a little time in a system that fits our team. A couple of years ago Bill Parcells was in this situation, he had the 1st pick & could have taken a QB, he took Jake Long over Matt Ryan knowing that a good Line will make a mediocre QB look good while a crappy Line will make an entire offense look like S%$T.

Watching Cutler in San Fran confirms Vinny has to go

2009-11-13T04:19:35Z

Think about it, this moron (Cerrato) was prepared to Mortgage our draft future for that guy, who has now had 2 4 int games this year, and more importantly showed himself in the pre-season to be an immature locker room time bomb PLUS he has never been a winner, College or the Pros Cutlers W-:L record is an atrocious

And VINNY decided he was worth 2 years of no number one picks and Campbell, I mean come on, even Snyder has to see it now doesnt he, thank God Josh McDaniels liked ORton, imagine our current situation, but replace a conservative QB beloved by his teammates, with a prima donna and no draft picks for 2 years to bolster the O-Line my god, it makes me break out in Cold Sweats just thinking about it...seriously stop and think about it as it deserves repeating

VINNY WAS PREPARED TO SEE US HAVE NO ZERO NONE ZILCH 1ST ROUND PICKS FOR 2 YEARS AND GIVE AWAY CAMPBELL TO BRING IN A PROVEN LOSER WHO NOW WE ALL CAN SEE IS A TURNOVER MACHINE AND NOT HAVING THEM PICKS MEANS NO CHANCE TO BOLSTER THE OLINE FOR THREE YEARS.

Its scary!!!

Cerrato Owes Campbell an Apology...And I Have Written It

2009-11-12T14:55:50Z

Was I the only fan that cringed every time Campbell got hit? There was a ton of cringing being done against the Falcons. I can't believe the ineptitude of this offensive line. It is astounding how the Falcons T'd up on us. I watched, as Mike Williams got beat by the same spin move over and over and over again. I watched as Heyer got pushed backwards most plays. I say most plays, because the other plays, he just held the dude so he didn't get pushed back. If Rabach holds that d-lineman one more time, they will officially be married in the state of Georgia. It's amazing that every play, something stupid happened. I wasn't even looking for the indicator in the score line on the screen when I penalty was being called. I could tell there was a penalty when Campbell was still upright after the play. That was as good an indication as any.

This got me thinking (another reason I'm pissed at Cerrato, thinking on Monday). If I cringe every time Campbell gets hit; if I actually feel bad for Campbell every time he struggles to get up; if I can't stand seeing him spend more time on his back than John Mayer in Ken's bedroom; then how should Cerrato feel? This is the same guy who looked the media in the eyes and said that he still believes he gave Zorn a playoff caliber team. Then answered the follow up question about the offensive line and reiterated that this was a playoff caliber team. Look, its been talked to death. If Cerrato believes that, then he is obviously not very smart in this role. Why is that so hard to understand? Anyway, that's been discussed more than enough.

Cerrato owes Jason Campbell an apology in front of all the media and for the fans to see. I think it should go something like this:

"Jason, I am sorry for ruining you as a quarterback. I know that I gave you a good quarterbacks coach. And I admit that I put a completely inept offensive line in front of you. I know that I told everybody that we did the best we could, but that was a lie. In fact, we took bets in the offseason to see what it would take to piss you off. Quite frankly, nobody had anything past the Sanchez thing. So we held a whole new meeting where I guessed that getting sacked 5 times in one half would do it. You are a fighter out there but I did sandbag one idea. I won't tell you what it is, but you'll appreciate its creativity (rumor has it that Cerrato will actually put an alligator in the backfield of every play). Anyway, I owe you a great apology since I never humanized the effect this would have on you. I can't believe how many times you are getting creamed back there! Even I didn't think it would get this bad. I promise that as I am packing my desk and belongings on the way out there door, I'll offer a piece of advice to the new guy. I'll make sure to drop him a hint that he may want to have a second look at the offensive line if he has time. So I hope that you can find it in your heart to forgive me. I really do feel pretty bad. But I feel even worse that Todd has no desire to come into the game and we don't have a #3. Do you have Jeff George's number?"

Football Insiders on Jason Campbell

2009-11-12T21:58:05Z

Was listinening to a Bill Simmons podcast last night, where he had Aaron Schatz from Football Insiders on to talk about the season so far. For those who dont know Football insiders is like the Statistical Bible of the NFL, ranks every player, every play is reviewed and ranks teams based not just on W-L but on all sorts of weird statistical gadgetry.

Anyway at the end of the Podcast Bill asks one last question "what player or team would suprise me right now by how good they are"

Schatz responded Jason Campbell and said that next year if he gets traded to a team with a "decent offensive line he will light up the league"

he then gave his reasons and I paraphrase

He is having career best years for Yards per Pass Attempt and Completion Percentage (gotta say the YPA stat suprised me if I had one critique of JC this year it would be conservatism but numbers dont lie)

In all his time in the leage he has never once been ranked at what FI call "below replacement value"

And went onto say that JC has been scapegoated by many Skins fans but he really should not be, without even factoring in the poor protection he receives Campbell is having an Above League Average Season and is far superior to both Jay Cutler and Mark Sanchez (and dont forget if we had traded for either fo them, we would have had no 1st RD picks for 2 years with which to bolster our Offensive Line)

Anyway I know pretty much everyone has made up their mind about JC one way of the other, but just thought it was interesting.

Right Guard and Tackle 2009 Options For The Redskins

2009-11-12T16:53:32Z

With half of the games remaining in the 2009 season is it appropriate to ask questions about the potential replacements NOW? For example who are the players out there as free agents that may be better than Heyer at right tackle or any of the various right guards the Skins have attempted to use since Thomas went down?

How would Heyer stack up against Jon Runyan? Kwame Harris? Terrance Metcalf? Oliver Ross? Marvel Smith? Anthony Davis? George Foster?

Tackle: Metcalf, Terrence Career Games (G) 84 Games Started (GS) 25; Ross, Oliver Career G 89 GS 53; T Smith, Marvel Career G 111 GS 1; Davis, Anthony Career G 47 GS 32; Foster, George ( CLE 1st rd 2003 2nd OL selected) Career G 68 GS 57; Shelton, L.J. Career G 146 GS 127.

Skin right guard attempts versus (see below)?

Buenning, Dan Career G 36 GS 23; Guards Lehr, Matt (TEN) Career G 98 GS 51; Paul McQuistan Career G 35 GS 12; Kendall Simmons -
http://www.nfl.com/players/kendallsimmons/profile?id=SIM181925;

Center Ghiaciuc, Eric Career G 48 GS 42;

Even if these players were only active one season would the roster spots be worth it?

Who is Quinton Ganther?

2009-11-12T01:06:00Z

Does anyone know much about this Ganther guy other than he used to be with the Titans? Why do the Skins seem to be so attracted to him all of a sudden. Came into the season with Marcus Mason and Anthony Alridge as extra backs and they were both cut. They began signing and cutting Ganther and now that we may need another back due to Portis concussion, they have signed Ganther again instead of Mason or Alridge. Is he supposed to be better than them?

take some risks Sherman...

2009-11-12T00:08:22Z

With the Skins out of things, it's time for some respectability - and that means the offense. I have to admit, the defense is always known to give up big plays here and there, but for the most part have done their job consistently. We can't keep JC from getting hit, injuries on offense are piling up (exception of Horton on D), and seems that the only time we've stepped up was in the second half in a loss against ATL. Honestly, I believe in the talent we have and that we're a competitive team. But obviously, we could be better under different mgmt.

With that said, Sherman, "take some risks, just throw the damn ball. Make someone step up by putting the offense on their shoulders. If that doesn't work, give the ball to someone else. Really, what do we have to lose? More games? Are you actually trying to make the playoffs? I mean, c'mon. There's gonna be some major off-season moves and don't think you'll be in their future. Sorry." --A loyal, but frustrated fan.

A Twinkle of light in an otherwise dark season

2009-11-11T16:32:32Z

A lot of posts have cast a dark shadow over the season, not without good reason, but I found something that makes me truly excited about watching the game this Sunday. I’m not talking about Denver losing its last two games or the skins offense showing potential in the second half, I’m talking about Marko Mitchell (hopefully) being rewarded for moving the chains twice last week.

The Preseason standout saw action on 12 snaps last week and I’m wishing that with our seasons hopes nearly obliterated we will take this time to let M squared, no not Marcus Mason, get some serious playing time. From everything I’ve read and watched this kid does and says all the right things; His fellow wide receivers admire his work ethic and his ability to attack the ball, the DB’s rave about his physical nature and when asked about his two clutch passes vs the falcons he responded with;
“It felt good to have my first NFL catch and get on the stat sheet or whatever, but I think I would have felt more excited about it if we got the ‘W,’“
Classy response for a young player, I believe he has what it takes to have a very successful career in the NFL and I hope he’s earned himself another half dozen snaps and a few more targets.

He’s a big physical player who has been itching for an opportunity since preseason to come out here and show us that he can bring it and now that he’s had his chance let’s hope he’s hungry for more.