Who will we be pursuing this FA 2012?
| Player | 2011 Team | Position | Age |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Drew Brees |
|
QB | 33 |
| 2. Carl Nicks |
|
G | 27 |
| 3. Ray Rice |
|
RB | 25 |
| 4. Arian Foster (Restricted) |
|
RB | 26 |
| 5. Mario Williams |
|
DE/LB | 27 |
| 6. Cortland Finnegan |
|
CB | 28 |
| 7. Calais Campbell |
|
DE | 26 |
| 8. Matt Forte |
|
RB | 26 |
| 9. Jermichael Finley |
|
TE | 25 |
| 10. Cliff Avril |
|
DE | 26 |
| 11. Mike Wallace (Restricted) |
|
WR | 26 |
| 12. Dwayne Bowe |
|
WR | 27 |
| 13. Vincent Jackson |
|
WR | 29 |
| 14. Ben Grubbs |
|
G | 28 |
| 15. Marques Colston |
|
WR | 29 |
| 16. Lardarius Webb (Restricted) |
|
CB | 26 |
| 17. Robert Mathis |
|
DE | 31 |
| 18. Wes Welker |
|
WR | 31 |
| 19. Stephen Tulloch |
|
LB | 27 |
| 20. Curtis Lofton |
|
LB | 26 |
| 21. Matt Flynn |
|
QB | 27 |
| 22. Marshawn Lynch |
|
RB | 26 |
| 23. John Abraham |
|
DE | 34 |
| 24. Brent Grimes |
|
CB | 29 |
| 25. Anthony Spencer |
|
LB | 28 |
| 26. Brodrick Bunkley |
|
DT | 28 |
| 27. DeSean Jackson |
|
WR |
25 |
| 28. Steve Johnson |
|
WR | 26 |
| 29. Carlos Rogers |
|
CB | 31 |
| 30. Paul Soliai |
|
DT | 28 |
| 31. D’Qwell Jackson |
|
LB | 28 |
| 32. Cory Redding |
|
DE | 31 |
| 33. Alex Smith |
|
QB | 28 |
| 34. Brandon Carr |
|
CB | 26 |
| 35. David Hawthorne |
|
LB | 27 |
| 36. Evan Mathis |
|
G | 30 |
| 37. Jeremy Mincey |
|
DE | 28 |
| 38. Tyvon Branch |
|
S | 25 |
| 39. Chris Meyers |
|
C | 30 |
| 40. Reggie Wayne |
|
WR | 33 |
| 41. Brandon Lloyd |
|
WR | 31 |
| 42. Jarrett Johnson |
|
LB | 31 |
| 43. Peyton Hillis |
|
RB | 26 |
| 44. Scott Wells |
|
C | 31 |
| 45. Michael Griffin |
|
S | 27 |
| 46. Laurent Robinson |
|
WR | 27 |
| 47. Michael Bush |
|
RB | 28 |
| 48. Jared Gaither |
|
OT | 26 |
| 49. LaRon Landry |
|
S | 27 |
| 50. Sione Pouha |
|
DT 33 |
|
I'm Torn...
Redskins world, I'm sorry, but I understand we need something to really excite our fan base again, and some1 like RG3 would do that, but I'm generally worried in giving up the amount of draft picks, for some1 that is basically unproven. With our luck as Redskins fans it wouldn't pan out.. I honestly was annoyed when we didn't address the situation last year, last year I believe was the year we should of addressed it because of the talent that slipped late. Allen and Shanny seem to have a system right now thats working with drafting players, and gaining depth. I know alot of you are going to disagree with me, but it's how I feel. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, if they wind up drafting RG3, then I hope he lights up the field, but as of now, it just makes me nervous, I don't want to see our team get set back, yet once again.
Manning to Texans
Profootballtalk is reporting that Peytonwould be interested in playing for the Texans. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/13/report-peyton-may-be-interested-in-playing-for-the-texans/
simular stories can be found on yahoo sports and sportingnews.com
this actually makes sense because they are a contender and it would give him a chance to stick it to the colts twice a year. This would be great news to the redskins because that would instantly add another qb to the market. This of course is good news for the redskins because.........
Solve QB; I almost don't care how!
There seems to be a lot of division among Redskins fans about what to do at QB. Me? I would actually be perfectly OK with a handful of the alternatives that have been bandied about.
PART I: Preferred
In NO particular order, here are the three moves that I would be pleased with:
1. Signing Peyton Manning
OR
2. Trading up from #6 for Robert Griffin III
OR
3. Trading down from #6 to stock up on picks, and using one to draft a lower-tier Tannehill-Foles-type QB.
Any of those 3 are fine by me. I feel like there's a major battle going on between proponents of the first option and of the second option, but I think either is good under the correct circumstances. And any caveats are somewhat irrelevant to me: if Manning won't sign for less than $30M guaranteed or whatever, then just pick a different option; if the Rams want too much for the second pick, then pick a different option.
PART II: If You Must
Shanahan, Shanahan & Allen could find themselves stuck at #6 in the draft and unable or unwilling to get Peyton Manning. In that scenario, the next two options are acceptable.
4. Picking a non-QB at 6, and drafting a QB in the second round if there's still one you like available. I'd also be OK in theory with trading back into the first round if there's a guy you really like, but that didn't exactly work out the last time it was tried (Campbell).
OR
5. Signing Matt Flynn, and picking a non-QB at 6. I fear that Flynn is more likely to be the next Scott Mitchell rather than the next Matt Schaub, but if the 4 options above don't work, I'd be okay with the Flynn option, if the price is right.
PART III: For the love of all that is good and right, please don't do any of these.
The cynic in me suggests that any of these options is merely a ploy to get into position to draft Matt Barkley in 2013.
6. Signing Kyle Orton. The only thing that could be said for this option is that it is not as bad as the others below. But it would still suck. (If you thought Campbell had OK stats but couldn't win...)
Of course, I didn't exhaust all the possibilities in my first five scenarios. The worst case scenario in my mind is: Cleveland trades up for Griffin, nobody wants to trade for the sixth pick, and Flynn signs with Miami, and Manning with, say, Arizona. Would I accept Kyle Orton in that scenario? I guess I'd have to. But I'd also accept watching the UFL in that scenario.
Now for the two real stinkers:
7. Reaching for a QB at #6. (Unless Griffin falls into the Redskins' laps, but then it's not a reach, right?) In Don Banks' (SI) first mock draft, he had Washington picking Tannehill at #6. My innards immediately began to rot.
But at least Option 7 would not mean:
8. Going into camp with a Grossman-Beck competition at quarterback. In this scenario, I would strongly consider switching allegiances to my dad's team: the Giants.
Are we Really Mortgaging the future with a trade up for RG3?
The one thing i keep hearing over and over again in reference to a trade up for Robert Griffin III is that if the Redskins trade up that they will not have any draft picks over the next 2 years or that pulling the trigger on a trade will mortgage the future and that this team is NOT in a position to make a trade for Robert Griffin III. It is debatable for what exactly it will cost in draft picks to trade up to the #2 spot with St. Louis but a lot will be uncovered after free agency. With Peyton Manning and Matt Flynn due to fill the needs at QB for a couple teams the market will surely change after free agency..
So just for this post I am going to use this trade scenario for acquiring Robert Griffin III and i think the trade will be close to this one. Redskins send 2012 1st rd, 2nd rd and 2013 1st rd, and 4th rd to St Louis in exchange for the 2nd pick in the draft. This move leave the Redskins with 2012 3rd, 4th,4th, 5th, 6th,7th. I think most of us would agree that Shanahan and Allen had a pretty good draft last year with getting 12 drafted players most of which contributed in some kinda way last season. The results of last years draft should ease any anxiety with trading up cause they have shown that they can find some nice players in the mid-later part of the draft. So this is what a draft could look like if they traded up for Robert Griffin III.
1st Rd QB Robert Griffin III 6'2" 220lbs Baylor
2nd rd traded pick to St. Louis
3rd rd WR Brian Quick 6'3" 222lbs Appalachian State: A big body with good hands, will fight for the ball in jump ball situations, good speed for size has a high ceiling could be a future #1 WR (Brandon Marshall)
4th rd T Andrew Datko 6'6" 310lbs Florida State: has good feet and is quick,able to get to the second level of the defense
4th rd WR T.Y. Hilton 5'10" 185 lbs Florida International : Has exceptional 4.3 speed, change of direction and elusiveness run after the catch type, good hands and great KR/PR ability (Steve Smith type)
5th rd CB Donnie Fletcher 6'0" 201 lbs Boston College:nice skill set with a combination of ideal size and quality speed, very good tackler in run support
6th rd C David Molk 6'2" 290lbs Michigan:a fast and mobile blocker who did a good job of opening up holes, fit the zone blocking Scheme undersized
7th rd ILB Adrien Cole 5'11" 250 lbs Louisiana Tech:is a physical, in-the-box defender who projects to an inside linebacker in a 3-4, could learn and play special teams
Now i realize that some of these guys might not be there when the Redskins pick but there are a couple guys i would target in each round
3rd/4th round targets : WR Marvin McNutt Iowa, TE Ladarius Green Lafayette, T Mitchell Schwarts Cal, WR Jeff Fuller Texas A&M, WR A.J. Jenkins Illinois, CB Josh Norman Coastal Carolina, CB Dwight Bentley Lafayette, CB Casey Hayward Vanderbilt, T Brandon Mosely Auburn, T Nate Potter Boise State, S Markelle Martin Oklahoma State,S Antonio Allen South Carolina, G Senio Kelemete Washington, G Lucas Nix Pitt, WR Juron Criner Arizona
So if the Redskins can get RG3 and some of these guys in the mid-late rounds i think it will make the overall team better without "Mortgaging the Future" I am sure Shanahan and Allen can find talent like they did last year. All of this is without filling some needs with Free Agency.
Rocky McIntosh to Rams?
I'm a little surprised that LB Rocky McIntosh has not been mentioned more in trade talks. He has not worked out well for the Redskins new 3-4 style of defense, but he's still a solid player. I feel he could be trade-bait for the Rams to include in leverage to move up for the #2 pick of the NFL Draft. In addition, Chris Cooley could be tossed in to minimize the damage of giving too many picks away this year.
Then, we nab RG3 number 2 overall and hopefully still have our 3 Round pick this year to draft a WR, OL, or TE (to replace Cooley depth).
Free Agents:
Redskins should really look at adding WR's Dwayne Bowe and Steve Johnson this offseason. Along with retaining TE Fred Davis and developing WR Lenoard Hankerson - the skins would have some real threats to attack a defense.
The GM's plan to turn it around in 2012
We will start by stating 2 facts Luck is going #1 and without brown & dolphins handling there QB issues through Free agency ( Manning & Flynn ) RG3 won't fall to us. This is the draft as it stand now 1. colts- Luck 2. Rams- Blackmon 3. Vikings- Kalil 4. Browns-RG3 5. Bucs- Claiborne so here the plan we could draft Reiff but here's the way we fix this team now. We trade the 1st round pick for a 2 & 3 this year and whatever picks you can get for 2013 ( this gives us two #2,two #3, two #4, #5, & #7 ) with those picks we take the which ever QB you like after Luck & RG3 all will be there in the second round when we pick. With the second #2 pick- Zebrie Sanders T from Florida st. Round 3 we take Kevin Zeitler G from Wis and Tommy streeter WR fom Mia. Round 4 we take Nigel Bradham ILB from Florida st and Shaun Prater CB from Lowa. Round 5 ( 3 choices ) Lucas Nix OG from pitt, Philip Blake C from baylor, William Vlachos C from alabama. Round 7 best player. Even if shanny brings manning worst case he tutors the young QB and saturday will follow worst case he tutors the young C. This gives us depth on a line that isn't bad when healthy but couldn't stay healthy the last 3 to 4 years atleast. Free Agency we sign Fletcher, Davis, Hightower, Landry if you are tired of him them Branch from Oak, Carriker, Montgomery or Lichtensteiger. All K from the draft will be there after the draft nobody is drafting them this year except maybe 1 or 2 in th seventh round. Remember all we need at QB right now is one that doesn't average a int a game and just be consistent like A.Dalton did last year with this running game he has help. You cannot tell me with a line and running game like we have with this draft we cannot find a QB in the 2nd round since only Luck & RG3 will go in the first round
2012 Salary Cap Position
I have updated my salaries/contracts, dead cap, Rule of 51/cap position and cut/trade savings charts.
So for those interested they can be found in the links below or in this thread:.
CPND Salary Cap Charts Updated
My pages are now all on this site.
Current cap position in Rule of 51 link.
We're in great cap shape heading into 2012, and if the last reported carryover cap space from 2011 holds up ($13.6m), then we could have as much as $43m right now. the finalisation of the 2011 carryover is dependent on any yet to be applied escalators/incentives.
Salaries & Contracts
Rule of 51/Cap Position
Dead Cap
Cut/Trade Savings
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Does RG3 Start from Day 1?
Say we do whatever it takes to trade up for RG3 and therefore have a deficit of picks this year and next. Given the glaring holes throughout our roster and our suspect O-line, Do we give RG3 the starting job from day one hoping his athletic ability makes up for our talent-deficient o-line or do we let him sit for half a year or the whole year letting him get accustomed to the speed of the game.
My agenda as Redskins GM
Just for fun, I have taken up the responsibility of running my beloved Redskins as their new pretend general manager. Here is my agenda:
1. First and foremost, Secure a franchise quarterback. This will involve a trade. I don't want any of the short term answers FA is offering and I am not totally sold on Matt Flynn. I want this position to be taken care of for at least the next 10 years. This is why I pick up the phone and make the call to the St Louis Rams to land Sam Bradford. The compensation would be our 1st rounders this year and in 2013. We would be taking on $13mil for the next 4 years, but we'd have our long term solution. Drafting Luck would have been my first choice, but getting Bradford cost us far fewer picks.
2. Now that QB is settled, we resign our free agents. London Fletcher is a no brainer. I'd also resign Adam Carriker, Kendrick Gholston, LaRon Landry - short term only, Rex Grossman cheap and also short term with the understanding he is a backup, Will Montgomery, Tim Hightower, and Kory Lichtensteiger. Keyaron Fox and Bryan Westbrook are signed for special teams. If you take away the blocked kicks, Graham Gano actually had a decent season, so I'd give him one more year, with the understanding that we will be bringing in competition during camp. Fred Davis will be franchised.
3. Free Agency. Sign CB Brandon Carr, C Chris Myers, G Ben Grubbs, WR Mario Manningham
4. Cut or trade CB DeAngelo Hall, WR Anthony Armstrong, QB John Beck, KR Brandon Banks
5. Now to the draft. Our 1st round pick went to the Rams in the Bradford deal, so we start our draft in the early 2nd round. I'd trade back to the mid to late 2nd while gaining another 3rd rounder using the NFL Draft Value Chart. I'd take T Mitchell Schwartz from Cal with that 2nd round pick. I look for him to eventually take over at right tackle. With our first pick in round 3 I'd go for CB Casey Hayward from Vanderbilt. Our other 3rd rounder would be used on WR Juron Criner from Arizona. I see him as a big red zone target, plus he sure made Foles look good on deep jump balls in college. Our first 4th round pick would be S Winston Guy Jr. out of Kentucky. I'd be looking for him to possibly replace Landry if he doesn't come back 100% from injury. With the 4th rounder we got from the Raiders in the Jason Campbell deal, I'd take ILB Chris Marve of Vanderbilt. I see him as an eventual replacement for Fletcher once he finally retires. I'd take QB Brock Osweiler of Arizona State with our 5th round pick. He'll replace Grossman and be our long term backup behind Bradford. With the 6th round pick, I'd build up the line depth some more with G Stephen Good from Oklahoma. With our final pick, we take K Randy Bullock from Texas A&M in the 7th round to push Gano for the kicker job.
Our Redskins roster going into camp would look something like this:
QB: Bradford, Grossman, Osweiler
RB: Helu, Royster, Hightower
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Cooley, Paulsen
WR: Moss, Gaffney, Manningham, Hankerson, Criner, Paul
T: Williams, Brown, Smith, Schwartz, Polumbus
G: Grubbs, Chester, Hurt, Good, Lichtensteiger
C: Myers, Montgomery
DE: Jenkins, Bowen, Carriker, Gholston
NT: Cofield, Nield
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Marve, Fox
OLB: Kerrigan, Orakpo, Alexander, Jackson, White
CB: Carr, Wilson, Hayward, Barnes, Thompson, Westbrook
SS: Landry, Guy Jr., Doughty
FS: Otogwe, Gomes
K: Gano/Bullock
P: Rocca
LS: Sundberg
KR: Austin
Well, I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but at least I had fun playing GM. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!
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