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LaRon Landry Explains Achilles & Desire to Remain with Redskins

I came across this recent Bleacher Report article where the writer spoke with Landry first hand and at length regarding his Achilles injury. I saw that Landry re-tweeted this article, so it's safe to say Dirty 30 validated it. I recommend the entire read, but here are some of the major parts.

Landry prefaced the Achilles story that the Redskins originally wanted him to get shoulder surgery, but that the second and third opinions he got said surgery was not needed and "PRP" treatment would work. And it did. So, one can see why Landry is hesitant to trust the Redskins medical staff. As for the Achilles:

"This year, I went back to the same doctor in Anderson and he instructed the best thing for me was to get open up and fully cut my Achilles and that's a tough surgery as it takes a year and a half to heal," he continued.

"So I went to get a second and a third opinion and everyone I've talked to, and not to criticize Dr. Anderson, but they said, ‘why would you want to operate on that Achilles' when there are other options to healing?' So that's where the hick-up comes in with the team. I told them I wanted to try the other procedure and it's better than the PRP and the procedure would allow my body and heel to strengthen, along with my bone structure and tendons, instead of cutting and taking away those things. It would heal on its own, so why not grant me the opportunity to do this procedure before going through a major surgery?"

Star-divide

For the people that think Landry is done in D.C., hold onto those 30 jerseys. When the Redskins get a chance to evaluate Landry later this month, things could change financially. I certainly am a lot more optimistic than I was twenty four hours ago.

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I still don't know if I want him.

It sounds like if there is any sort of relapse then he’s basically gone for 2 years.

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'm conflicted

I think he has the potential to be an excellent talent when healthy, but I think if we resign him and he gets hurt, we don’t have the depth to replace him. Is the reward worth the risk? I don’t know.

by mbedner on Feb 8, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i say sign him cheap for a year

and play it out we have nothing behind him now

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LaRon is spinning this

And either is misrepresenting what he heard from his doctor or he heard what he wanted to hear: An 18 month recovery from achilles tendon surgery would be very long. The average nfl player returns 11 months after achilles tendon surgery. An achilles tendon repair should have a similar recovery course as an ACL repair. Like ACL injuries, players tend to have a decrease in performance after their returns.

In contrast to an ACL tear, not every professional athlete needs surgery to heal Achilles tendon tears. So it is a little more grey than black or white. You can read much more about it here

http://www.lowerextremityreview.com/article/return-to-football-after-achilles-tendon-rupture

by TongoTongo on Feb 8, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

11 months from now, or about January 2013

Well, maybe we’d have him back for the Super Bowl

by Donnio1234 on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Coming up on a contract year

You can see why he didn’t want surgery but now that it’s recurred you have to ask wouldn’t it have been better to have it done the first year then be able to play into free agency with it healed? 20/20 hindsight is great except when it’s going to cost you millions. Chances are it’s going to happen again because they’re saying it’s bone spurs, not a pulled tendon. The only way to eliminate the bone spurs is surgery.

by DudleyDoright on Feb 9, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm suprised Parks didn't say
I stopped reading at “Bleacher Report”

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

I wasn't surprised when I found out 1190 was the number of restraining orders people have on you.

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you forgot a 0

whys that? you said it to me twice.

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

when you said 1190 was the number of restraining orders

I assumed that was because I direct quoted what you said like 4 months ago….am I wrong?

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea what you're trying to convey to me right now.

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Then I have no idea

what you meant by the restraining order comment.

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to go back to talking to this tree outside my office.

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually did the first time I saw it, but then when i saw LL retweeted it, I re-read it.

"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson

by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I know everyone here thinks Bleacher Report sucks

But some of the articles on there are legit. I said some, not all. There are a lot of dummies on there that have no clue what they are doing and right complete crap, but then again, some of the shit I read on other sports websites ain’t that great either and those people are paid. I guess you all think the Yahoo Contributor network blow too??

by tmarine17 on Feb 8, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

write

Sorry not a grammar nazi but that’s an easy one.

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 4:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

For sure

They finally shelled and hired some top notch guys to edit posts & contribute to their main sites. Although they still have minions do a lot of the SEO slideshows, they hired some writers I respect. B/R also poached a bunch of SBN writers….none from us (shocker!) but a bunch of good ones including the Indy site.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 8, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Kevin you made me promises to keep me here!

I’m still waiting for that Tommy Tupa jersey!

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Tom Tupa is not an easy man to get a hold of with all the swinger parties that pay his attendance royalties…need to remain patient.

"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson

by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 9, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised,

To hear his tweets and what not, I thought he was gonna go all Carlos Rogers on us. Hey what the hell, if he wants to stay, set a place at the table for him.

What the shit

by tony420 on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

agree 100%

not only do we not have the luxury of getting rid of solid players. We shouldn’t be shipping people off who want to be here

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit Laron

I was ready to quit you and then you go and do this!!

"And you can pass it to someone you never met, and let 'em get as high as you...you're eyes red as sh*t, mine too"

by Rekka on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

haha +1

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by Parks Smith on Feb 8, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Celebrate good times, come on....

well, as long as he is willing to pull a Manning; sign a contract with health attachments to it.

Love it. He is one of my favorite players, and when healthy, is a MONSTER!!!!

by jgibbsfan1 on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

that will be the question

if he’s willing to earn his keep that is one thing, otherwise I don’t think he’s worth the risk

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by Steve Shoup on Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he is not worth the risk??

if he is healthy he can be dominate cause he have shown that in 2010, In fact you might be able to get him on the cheap with a back loaded money deal or given a bonus like P.Manning is due this year where they can cut him loose if it dont work out. But he is still the Best defensive player when he is healthy

by Highspeed30 on Feb 8, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

"Best defensive player"?

Where? In our backfield? Cuz I’d dispute that. Or do you mean he’s our best defensive player at strong safety?

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Feb 8, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

When he is healthy

he is the Best Defensive player. he would have been defensive player of the year in 2010, at the half way point he was the best defensive player in the league let alone on the Redskins

by Highspeed30 on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

So for 6-8 games

He was the dominant force we drafted him to be. (When he wasn’t covering somebody downfield) Yet he’s played in 64 games for us, and missed, I think, 16. Sorry, that doesn’t make him “Best” at anything.
He can’t cover, doesn’t wrap when he tackles, and spends too much time celebrating for hitting a guy who just made a 22 yard catch. Nope, I’ll take London Fletcher as our “Best Defensive Player” over him anyway, along with at least 3-4 other guys.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Feb 9, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Im down for a incentive laden 1 year deal, he might be too.

by 2up2down on Feb 8, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I like him as a player

and would push to keep him, but I just don’t think Shanny wants to keep him

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by Redskin44 on Feb 8, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

I think Shanny feels like most of us do about LaRon

He has nothing personal against him. He sees an athletic freak who hasn’t been able to stay healthy.

by StephanHart on Feb 8, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

but aside from these last 2 years

He doesn’t have a injury history if you read article

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither did Peyton Manning

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I could be totally wrong on this

But earlier in his career while he played in most of the games I always remember him having nagging injuries and being limited or not finishing the game. Could be totally wrong though. I think the nature of his injuries(never healing achilles) and the last 2 years still classifies him as an injury risk.

by BayAreaBullet on Feb 8, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean Landry?

Yeah. The bottom line is, it’s the LATEST injuries that matter.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Landry seems to have a history with soft tissue injuries

And a success that he had with his shoulder seems to have convinced him that these alternative procedures need to be tried before total reconstruction… and I agree with him.

I do not understand however where Kevin’s enthusiasm for his return comes from. In reading the full article, it looks to me that Landry is the reasonable one and the Redskins medical staff is the tyrannical organization.
I have often wondered about the Redskins medical staff and the seemingly high incidence of soft tissue injuries. From what little evidence I’ve been able to read, I think that the medical staff might be a little behind the times and/or self-centered. As we become a younger team, I think the rest of the team needs to drag itself into the 21st century… this may be one of the reasons that we can’t seem to be able to hang on to our players.
Soft tissue injuries are also prime candidates for Toradol injections. I think there is something like half of the NFL teams that ban its use, I have a strong feeling that the Redskins staff probably highly recommend Toradol to their players and that those who refuse might be unfairly targeted.
This is just my opinion, but I find it disturbing that at least two of our players have had to pay for their own procedures to get back on the field when they conflict with the teams doctors.

I don’t think Landry is out of line, but I have a feeling that the front office feels differently. So if he signs with another team, I do expect him to go all Carlos Rogers on the Redskins… and now I think I would have to side with Landry

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 8, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

isn't dr James Andrews part of the redskins medical staff

I know he does nearly everyone’s surgeries but I thought he specifically was part of our staff like our players got priorities.

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by jbh1190 on Feb 8, 2012 4:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Yes

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 8, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

My enthusiasm is that Landry heals up and returns to our team. He’s a top talent when used correctly.

"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson

by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 8, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

If he could just understand

That it’s okay to ONLY workout 7 times a week instead of 21.

I understand he’s dedicated at being ripped and the most ripped Safety in the league, but he’s taking down tendons.

Plus he’s an idiot for playing through the pain when it was an achilles…. ACHILLES! It’s not like he was playing through a sore wrist or a bruised bone, but it was the main muscle that connects your calf to your heel bone and is the most important to WALK.

^ Sorry for the caps.. haha

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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

For real. I mean the tendon is named

after Greek hero that was taken down by such an injury.
I mean does he not remember when Orlando Bloom took out Brad Pitt. HA!

Plus he’s an idiot for playing through the pain when it was an achilles…. ACHILLES! It’s not like he was playing through a sore wrist or a bruised bone, but it was the main muscle that connects your calf to your heel bone and is the most important to WALK.

by PAinfUL on Feb 8, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I never planned on getting rid of my jersey.

I have been quietly optimistic of Landry returning.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Feb 8, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

Landry and Orakpo

Are the only jerseys I wear with swag anymore.

Sean Taylor’s is framed while Champ, Arrington, CP, and Stephen Davis all rest in my closet.

I want a QB jersey for a change…..

"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."

by Ohio Redskins on Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll give you one

Do you want Ramsey or Shuler?

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Feb 8, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Ramsey

"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson

by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHA

I can’t count the number of times I almost bought a JC or a McNabb jersey though.

"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."

by Ohio Redskins on Feb 9, 2012 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

ST #21 is hanging on my wall.

The only reason why I won’t wear my Landry jersey next year is because I am going to buy an Redskin’s RGIII jersey right after the draft.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally

I will be sad when LaRon goes. He is the only remaining half of Area 51 (Sean Taylor 21 + Landy 30).

I feel like the rage he plays with is in honor of Sean. I understand that he is verrrry injury prone with his style of play, but I love him as a Redskin.

"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."

by Ohio Redskins on Feb 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

At the strong safety position, Landry is a someone the other teams have to gameplan for. Also, I don’t want to have to think about another position of need for us to have to fill. Resign him and hope the treatment works.

by SCSkin21 on Feb 8, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think landry comes back

I think the market for him will be extremly thin and other than the rams because of Greg Williams might not get a long term offer from any one but the skins. at this point hes not elite but hes no rex grossman what I mean by that is your not going to find big upgrades over him in the draft or free agency unlike qb that offers upgrades in both. I like dirty 30 and otogwe but the more i read about fans wanting rieff the more i regret not taking Eric Berry over trent yes even with the injury

by taylor21 on Feb 8, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

I thought Eric Berry was the best player in 2010 draft

i would have taken Berry, but i would not have brought McNabb here either cause Jason was going into the last year of his deal. but that is the past. I think Landry can be dominate and help this defense be more than just a good solid D

I would try and sign him to a 4 or 5 year deal give him some upfront money and put in a roster bonus next March like the Colts did for PManning and if it dont work out this year i could cut my losses if need be.

by Highspeed30 on Feb 8, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone's in love with Laron again, eh?

Show him the door. Let’s get something for him.

by Elaw6 on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

I'd just like to take this opportunity

To let everyone know I have a #30 Laron Landry jersey ,the throwback style, for sale on Craigslist.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Feb 8, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

I think they will bring him back on a cheap contract and

hope for the best, and let him compete for the job. He could be great – we just don’t know. The way Laron describes the choices, I can see why he resists surgery. The Skins should definitely obtain one or two top safeties – they cannot rely on Laron.

by Donnio1234 on Feb 8, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

Can we get a gruff "No comment" from Shanny?

And didn’t the entire org cut ties with 30 because Shanny said, “no comment” a couple weeks ago?

f we can just get another “no comment” we might know everything right? Get the journalizers on the case again! Now if he snorts when he says, “no comment” that TOTALLY means something.

by 44ever on Feb 8, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

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