Redskins QB Debacle: A Potential Answer

I don’t trust orton

that’s our job as fat drunks

Its not a ideal solution or even a good solution, but unless you are one of the Grossman propagandist around here it is clearly a immediate upgrade. Orton at least has a chance at a positive TD to INT ratio while Grossman has none. Doubt it will be enough to get the Redskins to the playoffs but lowering the amount of turnovers has to be a priority for the Redskins this off-season or they have no chance at any consistent success.

With a weak FA crop and very few NFL ready young QBs, it is a legitimate option.
However it would be vital to grab one of these raw QBs in the second round so the Skins could at least have the potential to reach even better QB play in the future.

I also have a strong belief the Shanny’s are positioning themselves for the QB corp next year.

Why do we have such dumb ideas of getting everyones elses garbage again ? What is wrong with getting our guy in RG3 and start him day 1 and stop getting these second rate QBs from other teams ? Dont you wanna win games ? Stop the stupid merry go round and get our franchise QB while we are this high in the draft . It seems that we are the only idiots that keep getting everyone elses garbage , have we not been down this road before getting bums for QBs for our team? Its funny how just about every other teams when they need a QB they breakdown and get a QB from the draft . It seems everyone always crys about getting a good defensive linemen with your first round pick or some other pick whether its a defensive back or offensive linemen , but what i find that is so funny is when we need a good QB it seems everyone wants to get a stupid FA QB from another team that is not worth a shit . Not everyone here wants a FA QB but most of you do . So my question is this why shouldnt we make it a priorty to get a very good QB from the draft that can last for 15 years ? It amazes me you can spend a high draft pick on any other position for our team but you dont want to spend a first round on a good QB ? What sense does that make ? The QB position is one of our most needed things on this team but yet you want to bring in people from other teams that are not worth shit or only has a few years left so what sense does this make? Then on top of it we are back to square one again looking for another QB to train and it keeps being the problem with our team . Just use our first pick and draft up to settle our biggest problem and draft RG3 and we wont have to look for a QB every year like we have for the past 20 years .

I take it you like these worthless QBs we have had for the last 20 years .

You wanna get a stupid FA for a QB instead of drafting a good QB.

How many QBs have we had in 20 years ? 23 right? so why keep adding to the number 23 and get a QB for 15 years instead of adding to the number 23 .

This is what we need to let RG3 learn behind orton or sexy rex and maybe he could learn how to throw interceptions .

The reason I stopped rooting for the Broncos is because Cutler got replaced by this guy. I still haven’t gotten fully back on board yet. A playoff win is nice but Tebow is completely inconsistent. That said, Mike McCoy sure managed to adapt his offensive system to the QB’s talent, which is much more than can be said for McDaniels, or sadly, Kyle Shanahan (gratuitous trashing of KS as usual).

Orton is absolute a blackhole where leadership quality is concerned. He is strictly a system QB, very little improvisation ability. Not very mobile either. His TD-to-INT ratio was inflated. During 2009, he threw mostly short passes and bubble-screens, on strict orders from his head coach no doubt. He played two full seasons like they were garbage time; I’m sure Broncos fans wish he would have thrown deep much more and risk more INTs when his team was done 10, 20 points. In 2010 he had a deep threat (ex-skin Brandon Lloyd) and did better throwing deep. But he was still fixating on a single receiver: Brandon Marshall in 2009 (caught an NFL-record 22 or so passes in one game; of course with stats like that, it was a losing effort); Lloyd in 2010. Not an improvement over Grossman, and would take time to learn the system than is worth the wait.

RGIII and Luck are the only 2 QB’s worth going after in this year’s draft. Cleveland has more to bargain with to obtain RGIII and we can’t afford to give away the farm with so many other needs to fill. We are still 2 years away given the McNabb debacle. We need a top 5 offense and defense to compete and we still have glaring weaknesses on the offensive line, Wide Receiver, Secondary, and depth. I say acquire Orton, and use this draft to address the other needs, trading down if we can to acquire more picks. We will need a replacement for Fletcher and some of the older Defensive players; we need a guard, and a tackle and some depth on the offensive line. If we reach for a franchise QB now, we will not be able to address the other positions. How many potential franchise QB’s careers have been derailed because they didn’t have a solid supporting cast? And how many unknown QB’s turned out to be hall of famers because they had a great supporting cast and system? Brady, Warner, Montana to name a few.

But only because he’d be relatively cheap AND he’s less turnover prone than Grossman.

I’d prefer Peyton if he’s healthy though. But I doubt Peyton would have any interest in coming here as this organization is know for its management struggles and there is too little surrounding talent (on offense, especially the OL) to make a SB run.

But not as my starter, he has pretty much shown what he is and that is nothing more than a spot starter, or a caretaker or game manager not a Franchise QB

I have been saying this for a while. Shanahan has been saying we lacked depth, that the roster was far thinner than he thought, when he joined the team. He did a lot of wheeling and dealing in last year’s draft to get quality to build upon. He has said over and over that this rebuilding will take about 4 years. He can’t rebuild if he mortgages the farm for RG3 and I am convinced he will not do so. Next year, with another slew of draft picks, and 3-4 quality free agents, we will be much more competitive with much better depth, a few more starters, and this includes 1 or possibly 2 playmakers. Orton is the way they keep from giving up too much and setting back the rebuilding another 1-2 years.