I Ran Into Jim Haslett and We Talked QB Draft, Manning, Trading Up
by Rodskins on Feb 7, 2012 6:09 PM EST
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While attending my daughter's club volleyball tournament at the Hampton Roads Coliseum and Conference Center, I met and talked with Jim Haslett. He was there with his daughter's team as well, and we were both staying at the Embassy Suits adjacent to Conference Center. Early Saturday morning, while teams and families were eating the amazing breakfast buffet, I caught out of the corner of my eye, Jim Haslett. It couldn't be. When it comes to celebrities, I am never that lucky. Having finished breakfast, I thought, do I continue on my way out, or do I rudely interrupt breakfast with his family. As I proceeded to leave the building, Hogs Haven brethren came to mind, and I realized I must risk shame and embarrassment for the greater good. At least we did have one thing in common, our daughters played club volleyball.
As I approached his table, I asked if he were Jim Haslett. He answered in the affirmative and I continued by telling him that minus Chief Zee and iH8dallas, I was the Redskins number 1 fan and that it was a great honor to meet him. Well not only did he stand up to shake my hand, but he also introduced me to his wife, and we talked briefly about our daughters volleyball teams and how they were doing in the tournament.
So enough of the small talk, I had to know what the front office plans were for the draft. Here's a list of what I learned from our conversation:
- They are not interested in Matt Flynn. I am eating major crow here. I have written several posts outlining why I was convinced that Matt Flynn was going to be the Redskin's next QB. I am no Nostradamus. When I asked about Flynn, he said he was a below average QB coming out of college, with poor arm strength, balls hitting the ground, etc. The sense around the front office is that he did little to erase that evaluation and that his success against the Lions on January 1, 2012 was more of an anomaly than the norm.
- With the exception of Luck and RG111, they have been very disappointed by the QB's in this year's draft class. He didn't elaborate on where he saw these QB's up close (I'm thinking the Senior Bowl.) But contrary to many thoughts, Foles, Tannehill, Moore, Weeden, Wilson, among many others none were impressive. Haslett said at least twice, that they were discouraged by this year's QB class.
- They are strongly considering trading up with St. Louis Rams. He said, they have already talked with Jeff Fisher about the possibility. He did not elaborate on the details, other than to say they had talked with Fisher and are serious about getting a good QB. So again, I am eating crow, since I thought the Redskins would trade down for extra picks. They are not trading down, since they do not believe the QB's in the later rounds are talented enough to lead the team. Haslett believes the team is good enough to win, if they just had one of the two talented QB's at top.
- The Redskins are also seriously looking at acquiring Peyton Manning. According to Haslett, Allen has some connections with some people in Indianapolis and mentioned discussions surrounding Peyton in a Redskins uniform have already begun behind the scenes.
- Rex Grossman might remain as backup. Although Haslett did not commit to this, he did say they liked Rex's knowledge of the offense and his ability to move the ball. Unfortunately, he acknowledged these abilities come with an average of 3-4 costly turnovers per game.
- There are two things I learned about Jim Haslett that make him an exceptional coach. First, he is a humble man who has not let his pay check and his celebrity status go to his head. He had every right to snub me for interrupting his time with his family and instead he treated me like his next door neighbor. I think this is a quality that makes exceptional leaders. Joe Gibbs was the same way. Secondly, he simply loved talking football. I am sure most football coaches do as well, but I wonder if some just grow tired of the sport and go through the motions. I got the impression that Jim Haslett still loves the game as I could tell he enjoyed disusing the prospects of improving the team and winning again.
- Jim Haslett has a gold Cadillac Escalade. He loves the game, but I'm sure he loves his paycheck too.
Hail!!!!
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AWESOME FUCKING POST!
Well done sir, well done.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Seriously?!?!
Not even because I like the information that he gave, but the fact that he actually gave you that info is awesome
"And you can pass it to someone you never met, and let 'em get as high as you...you're eyes red as sh*t, mine too"
Nice job Rod.....
Great info….hopefully Haslett doesn’t blow smoke like the rest because I like everything he said!!!
Can we please get a mother f***ing QB we can be proud of?!?!?!?!?!?!
Everything that Haslett said in the post i have been saying for a month
with exception of getting Peyton Manning, I am glad to hear that they are not impressed with any of these 2nd tier QB’s cause I believe it would be a waste of a pick to get one of them in the late 1st or 2nd rd. And happier to hear that they are not high on Matt Flynn. I just hope that Miami land Peyton Manning
I agree with Joe Theismann
It’s not a good idea, it’s not a bad idea — It’s a horrific idea," he told 106.7 The Fan’s Mike Wise and Holden Kushner last week. "It would be one of the poorest things that we could do as a franchise. Are we gonna go find another guy for just a couple of years again? Haven’t we done this before? Haven’t we seen this act before? And by the way, if you get Peyton Manning, don’t you have a concern about protecting him? Don’t you have a concern about who he throws the football to?…
"We’re tired of looking for stop gaps," Theismann continued. "It’s time to draft one of your own, or make a deal for a young one of your own, and nurture him, and then put the players around him. If we’re gonna be 5-11, if we’re gonna be 6-10, let’s do it with somebody who’s [learning as he goes], instead of guys that have been here, making mistakes."
And Theismann, at least, seems convinced that the team’s decision-makers agree with him.
"I believe this is the year they’ll find somebody that you’ll hope will quarterback this football team for the next five to seven years, and put the pieces together around him," he said. "We need to be able to find somebody who can step up and make plays."
joe is a joke!
I respect him as a player, but as a commentator he is a joke!! I would like to know what his solution is for our QB situation is….
by PeetyPab on Feb 7, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
interesting take on his commentating skills...
but this appears to be an analysis….is there something you disagree with in that analysis?
I would like to know what his solution is for our QB situation is….
Did you happen to read the second paragraph?
“We’re tired of looking for stop gaps,” Theismann continued. “It’s time to draft one of your own, or make a deal for a young one of your own, and nurture him, and then put the players around him. If we’re gonna be 5-11, if we’re gonna be 6-10, let’s do it with somebody who’s [learning as he goes], instead of guys that have been here, making mistakes.”
And Theismann, at least, seems convinced that the team’s decision-makers agree with him.
“I believe this is the year they’ll find somebody that you’ll hope will quarterback this football team for the next five to seven years, and put the pieces together around him,” he said. “We need to be able to find somebody who can step up and make plays.”
or did you stop after reading the subject line?
I owe you an apology my dear friend.
Sorry dude.
A fan of losers, Redskins, Wizards, Orioles, Terps, Dale Jr, America
by jbh1190 on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
only if Jim wasn't lying
If he was you can suck it
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by jbh1190 on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well hopefully
We will finially have a great QB hopefully for once in a long time , I believe that they know that all the other QBs are really not worth a second round pick . They might be decent backup QBs but i believe they know if they dont get RG3 it will be the biggest mistake of there lives , they know RG3 will be worth his weight in gold plus the oppertunity to draft another guy like him will cost us more draft picks later if we do not move up this year .
I truly believe we will move up and get him in a long shot they might even get Luck but i kinda doubt that . But anyway you look at it if we do get RG3 i think we will all be very happy and we will win at least 10 games on top of it .
Soon we will have a great team providing we get our guy and then they can concentrate on getting some good players for our offensive line .
I think we will be shocked coming draft day , because i believe ol shanny and /allen got something up their sleeve and it will knock our socks off .
Sweeeeet, I'd love to get RG3 AND Peyton Manning.
Mostly because we get a our QB of the Future and we don’t have to suck as much in the present which establishes a good transition. If I were you I’d delete this post, I wouldn’t want any rival scouts getting their hands on this info.
Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.
I think that RGIII could quickly adapt to the pro game
Sure he’ll make some mistakes, but I don’t think he’ll turn the ball over more than Rex and I think with his speed he’s gonna make some big plays every once and a while with his feet when the pocket breaks down.
I think if we start RGIII from the get go next year (I know I know, we still have to trade up to get him) we could have very good chance at going 8-8. A rookie qb will lose some games but I think the team is on the rise. Hopefully Jenkins comes back with no set backs, Kerrigan adds another move or two (wish i could have the same hopes for Rak) and this maybe a reach but I’m hoping Hank the tank takes the next step i’d be extremely happy with 650 yards and 6 jump ball td’s from him.
So thats what coffee and Koolaid tastes like…
I'm really surprised Haslett revealed all of this info
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Well, I am not sure why Jim Haslett would divulge that
type of info, especially if you told him you comment on a blog….but I have no reason to doubt you.
But if true, it certainly makes me happy to know my read on the franchise’s primary options and current assessment is almost 100% true. When Peyton Manning walks away and we find out he was a smoke screen, I promise I won’t say I told you so :)
I did not say anything to him about the blog. I just said I was a great fan, period.
For all he knew, he was talking to a typical father of a volleyball player, who happens to be a typical Redskins fan. Which is all true.
And btw, these were there hopes, nothing in ink yet.
Rodskins
Might want to clarify that in your post
and get your running shoes on, cause they gonna be chasin you up an down the street, son!
wow. the gullable guppie.
did he also tell you the first play we are going to run from srimmage in game one also?
by davetrembling on Feb 7, 2012 5:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dave is just spreading love all over the site today
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I don't know how much stock to put in this though.
something tells me that nobody in the Redskins organization is going to sit there and just spout accurate information to any random guy who asks.
well, I have no idea if the info was divulged...but Rodskins story matches
up with cursory internet searches….there was a volleyball tournament this weekend at the location rodskins stated and Haslett’s daughter participated based on the tournament site…
so if anything, the background story is accurate…
I wasn't questioning the validity of Rod's story
I was questioning the integrity of the information itself. Whether or not Haz was really telling the truth.
They are not interested in Matt Flynn.
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"it's not un-US-ual"
"Klatu Verata Nicthmmmmprrhh"
by irishgoon on Feb 7, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice Post....
but I also would not put a lot of stock into it. I am sure that the coaches & FO have a plan but I don’t think that it’s one that they will be making public.
I hope some of this stuff is true, but it sounds kind of like bull honky...
Unfortunately, he acknowledged these abilities come with an average of 3-4 costly turnovers per game.
Really? 3 or 4? Haslett said that?
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Haslett was also the last to know about about Morris being signed to his own side of the ball.
Nice post BUT Has knows nothing and if he did well you know…
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
Maybe it's a double reverse smoke screen
ya know, the kind where they actually tell the truth, thinking no one is dumb enough to believe it……
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acknowledged may mean that rodskins said
You’re really gonna keep Rex!? he turns the ball over like a bazillion times a game!!!
Haslett: Chuckles and nods and says we like the understanding he brings to the offense as well as his ability to move the ball.
I doubt Hasslett would give a casual fan
the Redskins future QB plans; but it’s very interesting non-the-less
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by Tiller56 on Feb 7, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yep...
i find it hard to believe too
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
by ptowny on Feb 7, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't be surprised if the part of them not liking many QB's in this years class
is true.
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i agree
I could see that as well. But I am very surprised he would commit to trade up or trade down at this point. I would think those decisions aren’t made until after fa. For example, what if we strike out landing a myers, nicks or grubbs. I know you are more optimistic about are line than me, but I think all of projections have included getting one of these guys.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
by Redskin44 on Feb 7, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that is my feeling as well
They will either sign manning or go with an orton/rgiii combo.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
by Redskin44 on Feb 7, 2012 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
IDK about the manning thing
hope it’s not true. Our rivalry with the Giants will become too friendly
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Ever play a game against a sibling?
(I ask not knowing if you have siblings) It gets intense. The greatest part about a sibling rivalry is you end up hugging and all’s well afterward, but during the game, LET THE BLOOD FLOW!
must be an older sister...
hence the desire to wear capri’s and watch teenage vampire romance.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
I think Cam was a shoe in
and the only one not starting out of need was Dalton, well, except that Palmer wouldn’t play for the Bengals and what other choice did they have?
iH8 just sent me an email, he's having problems logging in
He says this whole report is untrue b/c the Twilight Lovers Southeastern Chapter Annual Conference was at the Hampton Convention Center last weekend
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Twilight is so 2011.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
God I can't wait till Breaking Dawn part II comes out
I want to see Bella as a Vanpire
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I ran into him in Sterling VA the Monday after the SR Bowl.
However he was driving a Silverish Navigator. He was heading into a dentist office so I wish him, good luck. He was bigger than I expected, look every bit the part of a former LB. Great story Rod.
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
God
this news is going to piss of Steve and Uk, and all the others hoping for Flynn or Tannehill(or another 2nd tier QB)
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He also said Landry Jones is an inbred chump that belongs in the UFL
But Rodskins left that out
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by Parks Smith on Feb 7, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are they good at video games?
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Hey, Mallet almost won this year.
One day they can hope to be as good as David Carr and win a superbowl like he has.
Skins rule
I have Mallett on the Redskins in my Madden Dynasty
traded two 1st for him in 2012
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that's funny....
i have tyrod taylor on mine. I added marko mitchell to my squad, and he is a beast on the quick slant
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
ha...i understood
I def think we should start a HogsHaven Madden League. Maybe have a draft, that way everyone can build the team they want. Might be fun for the offseason
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
I'm down...
We could probably run 2 of them…one PS3 HH league and then one for the XBox
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
Who said I was hoping for Flynn or Tannehill?
I said I’d be happy with Tannehill. I’ve never been on the Flynn bandwagon. But at this point, I’m not ‘hoping’ for anyone in particular.
You championed Tannehill in your pwn post the other day
I assumed by how bad you defended him, and how you personally attacked me, that your a fan of his.
Sorry if I was wrong.
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I defended him against
what I thought was unfair criticism. I’ll admit I like Tannehill and that I’d be good with us drafting him. But that doesn’t mean I’m championing him, or that I’m hoping we draft him.
And I didn’t personally attack you, sorry if you saw it that way.
by UkRedskin on Feb 7, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Double talk
I’ll admit I like Tannehill and that I’d be good with us drafting him. But that doesn’t mean I’m championing him, or that I’m hoping we draft him.
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And I didn’t personally attack you, sorry if you saw it that way.
Really? Between you and Steve, I felt like this:
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Come on man
Why would I personally attack you. I don’t know you outside of this forum. At the end of the day we’re just talking Redskins and had differing views.
by UkRedskin on Feb 7, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
the British are coming!
"Klatu Verata Nicthmmmmprrhh"
by irishgoon on Feb 7, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I asked the same question to myself
then I thought maybe you and Parks were one in the same
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You called me some very nasty things UK
and said some very hurtful words. I don’t know what I did to upset you so, to make you go all Parks on me.
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cmon Till, I like you man but don't grow a vagina on me
"Klatu Verata Nicthmmmmprrhh"
by irishgoon on Feb 7, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ya....sure ya were
"Klatu Verata Nicthmmmmprrhh"
by irishgoon on Feb 7, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
haha
I’m the last one to ever have my feeling hurt. You do ya think I am…….Parks
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At least it's not a......
Jacobs Ladder……look that one up….mind-boggling!!!!
Can we please get a mother f***ing QB we can be proud of?!?!?!?!?!?!
I see Parks went on a REC spree here
in another attempt to make me look bad……………………..P.S. Parks, it was a joke
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Now the sports media is gonna
use Rod as a reference except they will call him "a source close the the organization "
Something like this:
a source close the the organization says the redskins are going after Manning and RG3
interesting...and thanks for the info!
I saw Gregg Williams in a bar I frequented in Jacksonville when he was D-coordinator with the Jags, wish I had the balls to have done what you did. Good job! And Haslett does seem like a real cool dude. I love his interviews, always direct, informative, and as honest as he can be. He seems like the type of guy that if you just get him talking he will expound on a lot of topics.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
for sure, he was one of my favorite coaches
when I read that he made his players do up-downs before practice, I was sold. Mike Tice was also at the table with him. The extent of my celebrity sitings.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
I met Sugar Ray Leonard
when I was 11 at a golden glove tourney. He was my hero at the time. I remember walking up to his table at ringside and asking for an autograph on a little poster I had. His response: “Get the fuck out of here kid, I’m trying to watch the fight”. After that, I’ve never wanted to meet a celebrity again. I don’t want my opinion of them to be jaded.
FUCK SUGAR RAY LEONARD.
well that sucks......
Although it really doesn’t surprise me all that much, I have known enough “celebrities” to know that the ones who you think would be so cool turn out to be jack-asses (and vice-versa) all too often.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
They are not trading down.
Does this mean we still have to under 10 more weekly posts from Ken of why we should trade down?
"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson
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*endure
fail.
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Hasslett's a defensive guy
I’m surprised them allow him into offensive meetings.
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They don't, he just felt like messing with Rod
It wasn’t even Jim Haslett just a guy that looked like him
If the Redskins sign Matt Flynn then every HH member should get to kick Rod in the balls.
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Actually forgot he was in his volleyball outfit
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by Parks Smith on Feb 7, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
end of season evaluations
Shannahan said he has the defense review the offense and vice versa, so I don’t think it would be unreasonable to think that Haslett would take part in high level discussions relating to the offense. He is the defensive coordinator too, that puts him in the loop on a lot of things I would think. That being said, there’s still a lot of evaluation time to go before free agency and the draft. Opinions can change.
This early talks with Fischer seems interesting. I was thinking there may be some connection between the two coaching staffs. Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fischer were paul bearers at MIke Heimerdinger’s funeral. Made me think that they might know each other on a personal level as well as on a professional level.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
I'm surprised
Them let him out of him’s cage. Argh.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Always thought next years draft would be more intriguing to the Shannys
I feel like Tyler Wilson is there guy, of course its way too early to tell.
i thought it was tiller
Im so bumbed
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
by Redskin44 on Feb 7, 2012 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
too bad "Tiller Tyler" would be cool.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
but of course
We are so desperate for a Qb this year we cant wait one more year for Wilson, bray, or barkley
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by Redskin44 on Feb 7, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True
Always liked him, still waiting for him to step his game up though
I do like his however
I’d prob rate next years guys like this:
Jones
Wilson
Barkley
Bray
Murray
McGloin
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Haha Jones at #1. I'll bet you 1k he's not the 1st QB taken.
Probably 4th.
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
by Diesel44 on Feb 7, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he only pays parks
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
by Redskin44 on Feb 7, 2012 7:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow Landry Jones #1?
For me:
Barkley
Wilson
Jones
Bray
Murray
Some guy out of nowhere
are you joking?
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thank god
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I hate McGloin more than any QB we've had at PSU
and that Includes the ledendary Tom Bill, Tony Sacca and Zack Mills. Funny thing is, I know Matt.
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landry jones can't carry tyler wilson's jock
by davetrembling on Feb 7, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, that's a shame
BTW, athletes don’t wear “jocks” anymore. They are called compression pants.
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Bunch of guys that could really up their stock with a great year, too.
EJ Manuel (yeah, homer, whatever lol) is the only name that springs to mind, but I know there are other QBs who have had (a) decent year(s) in the past who could become one of those household names by Senior Bowl time next year. Griffin was one this year; last year this time, nobody was talking about him outside the state of Texas.
we can't draft a qb for the sake of drafting one though....
jumping the shark = very poor decision
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
Hence, why we shouldn't draft Tannehill
I’d offer to come in and play for the league min, before we did that
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surprised Haslett didn't mention that option
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Tyler Wilson
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
if telling the truth HOORAYY
if your lieing shame on you troll for getting my hopes up :(
Q-tip
by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 7, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions
thats good :)
but my paraniod self will not rest :P
Q-tip
by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 7, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Awe, It's all good
we’re all like that now. Sometimes I can’t fall asleep at night, because Parks keeps pocket dialing me
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you'd think he'd fall to comoany line
something like “we’re still evaluating all the college Qbs” blah blah
We’re doing due diligence on all the FAs blah blah
"And you can pass it to someone you never met, and let 'em get as high as you...you're eyes red as sh*t, mine too"
Good post. Haslett always struck me as a honest, blunt type of person.
As for the people saying he would never reveal the plans, its not like he said anything revolutionary. Arm strength has always been a major question mark for Flynn, Reports have consistently linked interest in Manning (Kyle even said it on the radio), and plenty of people have said this QB draft got very thin after Barkley and Landry decided to stay. It was also consistently reported how much worse this senior bowl QB class looked compared to last year’s class.
Haslett didn’t let anything out of the bag. He just acknowledged the obvious.
Why are you guys questioning Rod?
Because you’re jealous that he got some inside info and the rest of us just speculate and argue like middle school girls.
Rod blew twitter up.
All of you haters just shut up, Rod saw the defensive coordinator when he had his guard down, asked him some questions and reported the info.
Good job Rod. Coming from a journalism major, nicely done.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 7:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Why are the Shanahans not member of HogsHaven?
their input would be nice right about now
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
I would be happy with RG3 and all but does anyone else feel like this could be smoke screen???
I mean why would Haslett reveal all this information? The Shanny Era has been tight lipped the past years so why is this year any different? I would love nothing more if this was true but I cant help but feel like Haslett pulling our leg?
HAIL 4 LIFE!!!!
If it was a smoke screen then.....
they want Flynn and hope to keep competitors away…..and they also like certain of the ‘other QB’s who are not good enought’ and ditto on competitors. And of course, defensive coordinators HAVE to hate QB’s like Rex who put their defense into terrible positions as well as keeping them on the field too long.
I'm not the Devil's Advocate but I consiider him a close friend
Nice pull
I have no doubt Has said any of this. Great job. I also have no doubt he’s somewhere, looking at the computer and reading this post going…
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
I have the feeling he's in a meeting with Shanny and Allen right about now.
It’s probably something like “What the fuck Haz?”
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 7:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And in other news: RT @JasonLaCanfora - Redskins expected to franchise Fred Davis.
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Love it. Good stuff.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You love the franchise tag?
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I'm guessing they're using the tag
until they can give him a deal and get it back
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
I'm just happy we have a player that's franchise tag worthy.
I can’t remember the last player we franchised.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I mean is he worth $5.5 mil?
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No
No chance he is worth as much as a top five tight end.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
I asked people if he was worth $6 million before the season and they said yes so he must be
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so 20 missed blocks?
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Let me type this again..
Jimmy Haslett who was the last to know about Raheem Morris being signed to HIS side of the ball knows what Mike and Bruce’s plans are at QB 4 MONTHS from now? Get the fuck out of here..
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
by Diesel44 on Feb 7, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sue : "I need your baby gravy."
The new cheerleading coach is funny as hell though.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The actual episode is bad, but the new coach is funny.
Plus New Girl is coming on soon :)
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Give it a chance. Schmitt is funny as hell.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you guys done?
You do realize you’ve been pontificating about one show in which cheerleaders are the main story line, and another show named, ahem ‘New GIRL.’ What’s the matter, Desperate Housewives wasn’t on tonight?
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
by CJHutch on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I am happy to report
I have no idea who that is.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
You keep
Saying these things like they should mean something to me.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
by CJHutch on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
what's amazing is this could have been cleared up like 2 hours ago with a picture, but apparently the only pictures Tiller has at the ready are two deer chasing a kid
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It always amazes me how there are even pictures of things like this
Perhaps instead of taking a photo, that dude should have been there to help the kid escape rather than document it.
haha agreed
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man, I was wrong
I had to look again. Your right Steve. They are deer. God, that makes even funnier.
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not me man, I could straight slap that wench....
and not in a good way.
I’d take Brittney over her any day…..
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
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I am infatuated with Rachel
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i like 2 broke girls.
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by jbh1190 on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Who peed in your Cornflakes™ tonight?
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Nothing's been the same...
since The O.C. ended.
"Dominant" is an adjective.
"Dominate" is a verb.
We'll work on "Dominance" once we get the first two figured out.
I've never watched it
but then I don’t watch a lot of TV in general. Castle, Blue Bloods, NCIS and that’s about it. And even then I record them and fast forward through the commercials.
I've seen maybe 6 episodes....
and all older ones, the Britney Spears one might be the most recent. It is occasionally hilarious. Occasionally musically impressive….but mostly still gawd-awful……but I am certainly not part of their demographic.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
how can you sleep at night?
Glee? blah.
by davetrembling on Feb 8, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Only part I'm confused about is...
Are they aiming for Peyton AND RG3 or just one of them? Cuz if they are dead set on Peyton I’d like to see our pick used in another way.
Make RG3 Happen
I know i’m going to have to deal with every scenario until a decision is made, but just make a move to get RG3 (or even better Luck). The Redskins need a QB with talent, there is no way around this and there are no guarantees but you may as well get a guy who has the best chance to be successful. The Giants gave up a lot to get Manning and it paid off. Sure it may blow up in our face, but when was the last time we got the second best QB in the draft?
Do it Shanny otherwise nothing even has a chance to change. Rant over.
I'm still holding firm to my prediction of trading up for RG3.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
RT@RichTandler
Just talked to Jim Haslett about @HogsHaven post. He said: “This must be a joke.” As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
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by Copious 1 on Feb 7, 2012 8:24 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
I love it.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You love it? If its true then our hand is shown and all leverage is up in the air.
Awesome for fan knowledge, bad for negotiating
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exactly...this past if true, just pulled the Redskins pants down for the rest of the league.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 7, 2012 8:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I love it as a fan, as a journalist, as a guy who loves watching guys deny shit.
It’s fun. This does nothing to hurt leverage, he said nothing definitive.
The Skins will do what they do, regardless of what information comes out.
We’re talking about QBs, not Kennedy assasination theories.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He said nothing definitive?
1) We’re not interested in Flynn
2) We’re set to pursue Manning
3) If we don’t get Manning Plan B is to trade up with St Louis
4) We have no interest in QBs beyond Luck and RG3
If we ignore Flynn and fail to sign Manning then the Rams are going to bend us over.
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draft is after FA
if we’re trading up for Griffin in April, they would already know we are desperate for him
none of would be unknown?
except 4….and I doubt the Rams wouldn’t be aware of how much we are willing to pay? The same negotiation would take place in general.
I see your point, but it isn’t totally new info. It just may make others uncomfortable about where they were in the debate. Makes the debates easier…
Really?
is that going to come up at the negotiating table?
none of this has to do with anything that is going to happen between us and the Ram’s when it comes time to do business.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
"Said nothing definitive"
We don’t like Flynn or any of the second tier QBs? That’s not definitive? Haslett (in fact, most coaches) do not usually blast players publicly. Jim did not even complain about Albert until almost the end, so his comments on Flynn were very unusual.
well...that would have been a case for not front paging it?
Would you do it again?
(by the way, journalistically and commercially I think it was worth reporting IF it could be sourced, the info was out there. I also don’t believe there was any anonymity granted or implied)
Or he never said any of this stuff?
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by Parks Smith on Feb 7, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why would Hadley tell him all of this?
An equally valid question.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 7, 2012 8:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
IDK
Rodskins is not some you high school kid sitting in the basement of their parents house, trying to get attention though. He’s a father with two daughters, and is a fan of this team. I see no reason for him to lie about an encounter he had.
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
Well if he has two daughters then he's beyond credible.
Thanks for the kind words as always.
People fabricate, it human. I think you would definitely understand this.
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You're incredible
Like I said, you would understand
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by Parks Smith on Feb 7, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What are you talking about? You haven't been burned by false coaching reports twice in the past year?
I’m not being a dick just being skeptical
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by Parks Smith on Feb 7, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why the F*&^
are you calling me out for defending Rodskins? Seriously? I don’t know it it’s true of not, but either way, no reason for you to be a dick to another author.
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I'm not calling you out at all, cool your jets Sally
You were the one questioning me for being skeptical
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by Parks Smith on Feb 7, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
whoa
True or not, it’s the only logical move the team has. Just watch the pieces fall in place in FA leading up to the draft. The players will be signed to fill the voids left from trading to move up. Shanahans future depends on getting “his” guy now. RG3 IS HIS ONLY OPTION!!! The dudes gonna be a superstar. Two Fa linemen and Meachum as a deep threat and our offense is there. Use all remaining draft picks on defense except a fourth on Broyles and our seventh on a KR. This team is alot closer than you all think
by beelo on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds nice
but there are a lot of perfectly reasoned arguments against this course of action. I wouldn’t make blanket statements about “the only option” etc.
basically calling him a liar.
Not cool.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
haha cool
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I haven't deleted anything man, you can look at my activity and says when I delete something
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haha ok man...
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Are you on a 56K look up turdburglar
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Are you guys......
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
its a misunderstanding
sometimes it looks like stuff is gone then it magically re-appers..
Q-tip
by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
haha
then where is the comment about the 32 year old whatever you have in Florida?
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
I know
My comp was messed up. I hit refresh when I saw your post, and it all was back.
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
Apologiiiize
Dooooo iiiiiiit
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by Ronnie Adkins on Feb 7, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Parks acting like a dick seems to be his new thing
by The Agent C 83 on Feb 8, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
well he is named after a gay artist so cut him some slack :P
there’s got to be a certain amount of angst that goes with that.
Just kidding Parks!
by aFan4Life on Feb 9, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Glad to know
I have three daughters, what does that make me?
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Three daughters means you're pretty much clinically insane at this point
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I'm not crazy
My Mother had me tested.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Because he didn't think he was being interviewed.
Journalists have to ID themselves before they ask or interview someone. For instance, “Hi Jim, I’m whoever from Hogs Haven, can I ask you some questions?”
Instead, Jim thought he was just shooting the shit with another dad over pancakes and volleyball.
He got caught off guard.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 8:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ding ding ding
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hahaha get the f out
Best post ever!
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by jbh1190 on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You idiots will believe anything
Just posted on twitter. This story is a complete lie!!!!!!!!!!
Rich Campbell
Just talked to Jim Haslett about @HogsHaven post. He said: “This must be a joke.” As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
by kevinjames73 on Feb 7, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
King of Queens was not funny and Grown Ups really sucked!
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This made me laugh.
But seriously, Jerry Stiller was mildly funny on that show.
"Dominant" is an adjective.
"Dominate" is a verb.
We'll work on "Dominance" once we get the first two figured out.
Jerry Stiller is usually entertaining....
and Leah Remini is pretty hot.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
Altho I wasn't buying this as being totally true....
I also doubt that it’s a complete lie either. Haslett might just be the DC but he’s also a former HC & I doubt seriously that he is kept in the dark about a decision as serious as who the starting QB will be
As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
well it could be true, it could be that the Skins don't know what their QB plans are
I’m sure they are still evaluating every single option. We haven’t even had the Combine or Pro days yet, Shanny is probably rewatching film of every draft and FA eligible QB. They might have a tentative plan, but I doubt anything is close to definitive yet.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I completely agree. No way that know for sure.
Things are in a continuous state of flux that they can’t be sure of anything at this point. It is all far too fluid.
exactly, which is why i don't think much stock should be in the initial story
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I have a cousin who lives in Florida who is 32.
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End this thread now!!!!!!
Rich Campbell
Just talked to Jim Haslett about @HogsHaven post. He said: “This must be a joke.” As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
Rich Campbell
Just talked to Jim Haslett about @HogsHaven post. He said: “This must be a joke.” As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
Yeah, like Haslett is going to come out and say
“sure Rich, that’s what I said to a fan”
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+100
how many times have you heard a coach deny something that was 100% accurate
Like Nick Saban said he was not interested in the Alabama job and a week later he is the new HC of Alabama
Even Hogs Haven is distancing themselves from this post
the Haslett article, it was a detailed story a fan wrote about his chance run-in w/ Haz, which Hogs Haven can neither confirm nor deny.
You have to be a complete moron to believe this junk!!!
Rich Campbell
Just talked to Jim Haslett about @HogsHaven post. He said: "This must be a joke." As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
Rich Campbell
Just talked to Jim Haslett about @HogsHaven post. He said: "This must be a joke." As defensive coordinator, he denies knowing Skins QB plans
Dear f-ing god, guy
We got that…
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by Ronnie Adkins on Feb 7, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
If you still believe this trash
I really feel sorry for you.
look i'm not buying the story, but you don't have to be a prick to everyone
posting Campbell’s Tweet once or nice is good, but come on
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You probably totally believed what Holmgren said back in January, when he didn't say anything at all really
Rod is just providing some info for the rest of us. Thanks for passing along Rod!
by Bryan Black on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Shut up, Matt Flynn.
"Dominant" is an adjective.
"Dominate" is a verb.
We'll work on "Dominance" once we get the first two figured out.
by Reedskin on Feb 8, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
ah!! girls volleyball tournament
Long time reader but first time poster here. Of coarse it is about girls volleyball. My daughter plays on a high school team. She doesn’t play club but we are looking into it. What team does your daughter play on? Does she like it and how often do they practice.
Has anyone noticed that Rodskins has up and disappeared since posting this?
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@parks>
i bet jim has him!! rod told him where he lives and his whole life story and jim found out rob blew his guts and busted him door in and put a major hurt on rodskin:(
ps….thanks rod for taking 1 for the team. get well soon buddy!
Settle it now. He better be able to back it up
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@HogsHaven Is your “Rodskins” guy on the Twit? We want Rodskins!
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No, really?
hadn’t heard.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
haha
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Rodkins you are being called out!!!!!!
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@HogsHaven Is your “Rodskins” guy on the Twit? We want Rodskins!
Ken ran into Holmgren and he said the Reskins should trade up for that QB
I dont think it is a made up story, I just went back and read some of Rodskins post and from the post he is a Matt Flynn supporter, and wanted to trade back and this post basically contradicts all that he thought the team should do. It is very possible for Haslett to talk to a fan off the record cause he could easily just deny what was said since it was not taped or he was not being quoted.
I notice there are a few whiffs of suspicion showing up above
and I have to ask – is Rodskins’ post a hoax? Or did he just fall for an impostor? I don’t think the Defensive coordinator would talk that way about important offensive decisions to a total stranger. No way he’d blab key strategic decisions like that.
Hard to say Donnio....
& I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don’t think that Rodskins made this up, he has posted often in the past & doesn’t seem like a kook. On the other hand, it’s hard to believe that a coach as experienced as Haslett would be blabbing about actual draft or FA strategy
Remember, Rodskin asked the guy if he was Jim Haslett
A wise guy, who might look a bit like Jim and has been mistaken for him before, would probably play up and say “sure”, and unload all his opinions on him.
I think
Everything he says happened, did indeed happen. It’s probably one of two things. Either Has isn’t too privvy on the power of the Web (and Hogs Haven), and therefor underestimated the possible ramifications of his words. Or he didn’t really expect Rodskins to “publish” what he said.
Personally, I think that, after being forced to watch girls volleyball all weekend, Has was probably happy as hell to talk some football.
The again, he could just be laughing his ass off now, after having followed the ‘Shanaplan for public commenting’ to a TEE.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
And there can't be much of a middle ground, either it was Haslett or it wasn't
Another thing, Rodskins reported a lot of items. Did he remember all that? Rodskins could be sincere, but I don’t for a second believe Jim Haslett said those things to a stranger. If he did, Mike might consider firing him, or at least never let him attend offensive meetings again. Another slim possibility is that it was Haslett, and he was just lying like crazy, maybe thinking the guy was a spy. I.e., sort of a cruel joke.
The best thing the Redskins can do about it
is stay quiet, because speculation like what’s found in your comment will continue and nobody will ever know if any of it is true or not.
What did he have to gain from fabricating this?
Let’s get this straight:
He makes up a story about meeting Haslett.
Looks up an alibi about girl’s volleyball to put himself at the same spot as Haslett.
Writes an entire article about his experience.
I’ll use my better judgement and say Haz is lying, because, well coaches lie a lot. Not to mention what is he supposed to say to John Keim and Chris Russell about this?
“Yeah, I said that shit.”
And the car thing. He’s been a player, coach and coordinator in the NFL for a long time. I’ll take a swing in the dark and say he can afford MORE THAN ONE CAR.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 9:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
dude you wrote an entire article about your experiences with your Dad
FWIW Ken was just on the radio pretty much denying this.
This is a fan post, that is completely unverified, we shouldn’t take this for gospel until there is a reason too.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 7, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So what?
My dad isn’t famous or affiliated with the Redskins. I also didn’t paraphrase anyone in my stories.
That has nothing to do with this story.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Scroll up, Diesel mentioned he drives a silver Navigator.
I guess discrediting the gold Escalade. I was just saying, Haslett makes a good living, I’m sure he owns more than one vehicle.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm sure he was, but i'd be willing to bet a gold Escalade isn't one of them
for one thing I’ve yet to see Haslett in an Eastern Motors commercial
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You actually said "PRRRRRRRRRRRFFFF" in your story
I spoke with the maid and she said it was more of a “PRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF”
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Ever tried spelling a fart?
Not easy.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is the type of stuff you need to know h8 to become big time in journalism
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I've won awards for my stuff.
I know what I need to.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
my point is people write all kinda stories all the time, doesn't mean they should all be considered gospel
some stories are written just for fun (like your story).
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I think Rodskin believes his story, and I think Haslett is a good, honest guy
So I fish for other explanations. The first is that it was not actually Haslett. A second is that Jim may have just been relaxing, BS-ing, maybe being cute. If it wasactually Haslett, then I would think that we are indeed going after Flynn and one of the second tier guys – Tannehill, Foles or Weeden (because it’s inconceivable to me that he would casually leak Shanahan’s secret game plan to a complete stranger).
he was talking football
Not the Colonels Secret Recipe or the Coke formula.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And Jim would badmouth guys who could very well end up as our QB?
Don’t believe it.
So....I went to dispel the lunacy, however...
I googled the Hampton Roads location and there was a tournament. Rodskin lives in North Carolina, but…the participants in the tournament are from the Mid-Atlantic region which includes teams from D.C. and Northern VA. I want to disbelieve the info because it seems far fetched, but…the part about the tournament location and the participation of teams from this area is true.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
http://www.coachhouser.com/JuniorVball2012Tournaments.htm
scroll down to 2012 Power League Events, it shows an event Feb. 4-5 (this past weekend)
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
I live in Hampton Roads and the Hampton Colliseum does a lot of these types of events
Probably their biggest events being second tier WWE events. I don’t believe he’s telling us anything else but the truth…if he said he shared a glass of milk with Has I wouldn’t believe it
by Bryan Black on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well after all this the chances of Peyton manning in Washington have shot up
So good day after all
I think the biggest problem, if this thing is true....
An experienced coach in the NFL violated one of the most basic expectations of a coach in the off-season. Shanahan will go full spaz.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 7, 2012 10:22 PM EST via Android app reply actions
which makes me think its not true
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I think the same thing.
But based on my investigation above on the location date, time, and participants….there is a chance this is legit.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It could also still be a true embellishment of what is said.
Like “What do you think of Matt Flynn?”… “Haven’t looked at him much” got turned into a paragraph about how we’re not interested
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Well I don't think the question is whether or not Haslett was there
the question is whether Rodskins was there
And if he was did he talk to Haslett
If he did, did Haslett say ANYTHING about the QB’s
And if he did is it anything close to what is written above.
Its just so implausible that I can’t really buy it. I can’t really see Haslett being that detailed (I don’t care if he thought he was talking to his doctor).
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I think the event
Of him meeting Haslett happened. But I think a lot the conversation is fabricated. My guess is the poster was very excited by the event, wanted to share what happened with us, and ended up exaggerating many aspects of the conversation.
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I think lost in this whole thing is how Rod's past has been googled
You all found everything out about him. Yes, Rod we know what you did last summer!
by Bryan Black on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Found out about him based on his profile.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
not sure
on the one hand the way Has was described and given the setting i dont see why he would purposely mislead someone instead of just not commenting on it. BUUUUUT it is kinda fishy that he just spewed all this fairly valuable info to someone who identified (i think) as a blogger. UNLESS it was so that word would spread and force a team like cleveland etc to give up more for st louis’ pick or a team like miami to offer more for mannings last 2-3 years. its all speculation til april so for now i choose to believe we’re moving up to get rg3 like i have been since week 17. of 2009. HTTR
If this is true ...
this HogsHaven poster might have cost Haslett his job. Raheem Morris is on staff, and a faux pas like this is easily termination worthy for most employers. It’s akin to Microsoft’s CFO telling an Apple fanboy what MS’s future internal roadmap is for OS releases, mobile devices etc.
If this isn’t true, Rodskins needs to own up, and quickly. A little joke got out of hand, you’re very sorry, etc etc. We’ll get over it. This is getting picked up by regional and national commentators though, and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear this referenced on radio shows tomorrow (note to self: turn on Mike and Mike in the Morning)
it was already on 106.7 the fan if you include that
also nobody answered my question one of the 106.7 people said they a reg. user on hogshaven….
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by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
are you talking about Ken on 106.7 the fan last night?
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The Junkies spent some time on the story this morning too. I’m sure Kevin and Ken would probably prefer the Junkies talking about something they wrote themselves, but still pretty cool to hear HH being discussed in morning drive radio.
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by Martin Shatzer on Feb 8, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
i dont know ...everyone sounds the same to me on the radio
but it was at 6:40 yesterday…
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by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
i'm pretty sure Ken was on later that night since he was on with Danny
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We get similar posts like this on BGN occasionally. There has been a grand total of one that was legit: One guy claiming to know Brent Celek claimed to have inside info that Celek had gotten a contract extension. Next day… proved to be right.
There have been dozens that were complete and total B.S.
This one doesn’t pass the smell test.
- For one, there’s no way in hell a coach is going to say his QB is good for 4 turnovers per game. No way.
- How long was this conversation anyway? I mean… How long did Haslett stop to speak with this guy? In a press conference setting where coaches are being asked direct questions, if they’re speaking freely it might take 10 minutes or so to get 5 similar bullet points out. In a casual conversation in which it’s not “all business,” it would be considerably longer. So how long are we talking here? 20 minutes? 25? 30? Is Haslett really going to stop eating and give away his team’s offseason plans while his family waits patiently as the conversation continues on and on? The better lie would have been to say he was sitting next to Haslett in the stands, where they would have had a chance to B.S. with each other more freely.
- Not to mention… all the other valid skeptical points already noted above (the secretive NFL, Haslett’s a DC, etc etc).
I don’t know why people do this. Acceptance? Boredom? Entertainment? Whatever it is, I kind of enjoy these, as they’re fun to shoot down.
by JimmyK on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
agreed completely, It scares me when we need rationality from an Eagles fan
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Who better to dole out rationality?
They got a healthy dose of it when the “dream team” crashed and burned like hot poo dropped from the sky onto a flaming trash heap.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 8, 2012 8:37 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's conceivable that at least some of this conversation happened
Most of what he said is believable. Lots of people have questioned Matt Flynn’s arm strength, etc.
Here’s where rodskins loses me… I cannot fathom Jim Haslett telling a fan that the Redskins have talked to Jeff Fisher about trading up to No. 2. That’s ridiculous. There’s absolutely nothing that the Redskins would have to gain from sharing that information with anybody. Disclosing that you’re in trade talks with another team is just going to drive the price higher in that negotiation.
“discussions surrounding Peyton in a Redskins uniform have already begun behind the scenes” doesn’t make sense to me either.
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by Martin Shatzer on Feb 8, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
what it appears is all these bullet points are general perceptions but not actually true
I don’t think most teams would be worried about Flynn’s arm. It is more than playable and equal to Peyton Manning’s pre injury.
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That is just not true at all. Multiple scouts say he lacks arm strength.
Weaknesses: While Flynn is a strong QB when it comes to pulling free from potential sacks, he lacks arm strength. The ball does not burst out of his hand and he lacks the ability to make throws that require a lot of zip beyond 25 yards. Passes tend to take time to get the target, giving defenders a big advantage. He will need to improve in this area so teams can use their entire playbook.
haha where the hell is that from?
I’m not saying he’s got a cannon for an arm, but he can make all the throws, and has developed good touch and accuracy.
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I agree that the content makes sense, and is presented with proper grammar, spelling, and reason. I also agree that it’s certainly possible that this guy exchanged a quick hello and maybe even a very brief general conversation about the Skins with Haslett, but there’s no way in hell… none… that they discussed everything he claims to have discussed in those bullet points. So I think we’re on the same page.
by JimmyK on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the way today's NFL staffs work, I dont think Haslett would even know half this stuff yet.
however I would love if it is true, because the qb’s after Luck/RG3 are irrelevant and shouldnt be looked at as a solution to anything and Flynn’s one game is no reason to invest $50mill in him given that scenario constantly fails.
all I know is...
if it is NOT true, wow! Brilliance is sometimes not appreciated. IF Rodskins made all of it up, then sat back in his chair and watch the firestorm, Kudos…
I for one have no idea what is real or isn’t. I must be Neo stuck in the Matrix….
Or not….
post one saying you saw mike and kyle somewhere reasonable have a good background story
and then come up with a new plan
although i do belive rodskin
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but it's not Rodskin, it's Rodskins
2 different folks.
Here's Rodskins explaining his side...
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/haslett-insider-confirms-discussion/
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he sounds pretty legit actually
of course i want to believe him, because the idea that our FO values any of these college qb’s after RG3/Luck scares me
dude's a pastor
I don’t think he’d stir up this much trouble for his own pleasure
That's my take on it
What do you do for a living Mr Rodskins? Well…..I’m a pastor. That’s hilarious.
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well he did get the commandment wrong about "Thou shall not lie" so you never know
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What if he was lying about being Rodskins!
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yeah, maybe it is true
which means Haslett was a bit of a schmuck for not asking how the info was going to be used.
5 minutes of fame?
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Yea right we're retiring a Rodskins banner in the HH HOF
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"two or three hundred friends of mine. " Thats pretty funny
Denny, a pastor, went on to defend himself from critics who don’t believe his story, admitting he only thought he was only writing to "two or three hundred friends of mine."
by PAinfUL on Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah he grossly underestimated the size of his audience
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Well generally
there are only about 50-75 regulars on here and i’d say thats high
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Did you just say that we regulars are high?
CJ resembles that remark, and probablydefinitely resembles that remark, too.
But some of us are clean and sober.
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So....who's pimp smacking Haslett first? Shanahan or Snyder
If they believe this story he has to be fired at some point right?
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
No reason to fire him
It all happened so early in the evaluation process; there is nothing that wasn’t already known.
I can say with near 100% certainty that what Rodskins has said, I have heard elsewhere. Nothing about it seemed majorly inconsistent.
Speculation from inside sources and guessing by beat writers and bloggers is different.
"Jim Haslett said…" is a significant breach for a coach who is Belichick-like in the way he plays things close to the vest and gives entire interviews without really saying anything.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
Speculation from inside sources and guessing by beat writers and bloggers is different.
“Jim Haslett said…” is a significant breach for a coach who is Belichick-like in the way he plays things close to the vest and gives entire interviews without really saying anything.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
I guess we should all thank Rodskins
for turning our coaches into anti-social assholes to anyone approaching them in the future
assuming you believe
that the conversation actually took place. I believe that Rod met him, and talked about about the QB situation on some level, but I just don’t believe the QB position was discussed in this level of detail.
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This will all blow over…not sure why everyone is so worked up. When we’re practicing and not talking about off-season rumors, he’ll be approachable. “How’s Perry Riley doing?” etc…
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 8, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why?
I have yet to see a productive statement from any text associated with his name.
by The Agent C 83 on Feb 9, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
laughing stocks once again
can we for once manage to give the impression that we are a structured professional organization and not a bunch of wyno’s begging for change on a liquor store corner. I mean we are even getting clowned on turfshowtimes blog.
No you're not....
FWIW we on TST are sympathetic to the crap that bloggers have to deal with when defending our honor. I think Rodskins told the truth and I think it’s the mainstream media or it’s existence that is having the negative affects on all that’s happened since this post went up. Sure there are rules, both written and implied that may have not been adhered to, but when all is said and done, it’s nothing everyone didn’t already kind of know. There’s not gonna be any damage to you guys or any advantage for us. If someone clowns on you guys, I’ll defend you, because I’ve been there. And we suck worse than you guys do.
As far as losing credibility goes, you guys, like us at TST, are just fans and should be allowed to act as such. I know I would. What the hell else do we like to do but gossip, interpret, speculate, guess, and yup out and out lie sometimes. Oh well, we might as well. If we didn’t, it’s not like anyones going to be giving us any awards for integrity. Blogging is still the best way to spread news about our teams and it’s the way of the future, so the mainstreamers will never like us or what we produce.
I feel for Rodskins and anyone else who thinks this is gonna hurt you guys at HH, it shouldn’t. Rodskins keep your head up thanks …………..dbcouver
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Thats the thing. HH, atleast locally, has been recieving attention from the sports media, for being a great site for Redskins news, not gossip
Oh well, we might as well. If we didn’t, it’s not like anyones going to be giving us any awards for integrity.
Having said that its not the sports writers that HH is here for, Hogs Haven is here for us the fans. They will remain my #1 source for news and hijinks about my beloved team. As for what people think of us,davetrembling, I really don’t give a damn, though I do appreciate the sentiment dbcouver expressed .
they like tat monster arm
robert griffin has probably the biggest arm in draft and would be a dream if we traded up or if browns did not wan him.
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I hope all this didn't chase you away Rodskins
after all in the long run it will blow over or you’ll be proven to be right. Wither way we’ll all get over it.
I wonder what Rodskins new name is?
Since he took the cowards way out and ran away after posting this. Pretty pathetic to disappear like that. If you are going to claim something stand by and defend it. dont run like a coward.
You might want to calm down a bit
Just sayin
by tuckwell on Feb 13, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He talked on the radio about this?
Not sure how that’s being a coward? Seems to me you’re the pathetic person here getting your panties all in a bunch.. I bet you use wet wipes instead of toilet paper
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by Elliott Thweatt on Feb 13, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions
Steinberg of the Post had a sympathetic article about Rodskins
He’s a pastor and a Redskins fan. I just have to believe he is straight – believes what he wrote. But I can’t believe that Jim Haslett knew Mike’s game plan on QBs, or would have blabbed it to a stranger if he did. So there must be some other explanation. Either it wasn’t actually Jim Haslett, or Jim was drunk, or Rodskins jumped to a lot of conclusions based on vague answers, or Jim is a totally different person than I assumed. And Jim Haslett apparently denied the conversation took place. Classy people don’t flatly lie about something like that. So I’d like to see the actual wording of his denial – just what exactly he denied. If Haslett actually gave away Shanahan’s true plan, and other teams knew it and believed it, it could hurt the Skins in a number of ways. I’s say the Skins are right to totally ignore it – implicitly undercutting the whole thing.
I think it went down as described basically
But I think Rod is a weasel for posting it…and I don’t beleive him when he says he did not know he was making it public. Also, I bet Hasslet’s comments were somewhat more guarded and theoretical than all the inferences that Rod extracted. Anyway, publisheing it knowing it would screw with Haz was a dick move…and guy is a liar to not acknowledge it. I guess Catholic priests are more reliable than Baptists.
This is bizarrely awesome.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 18, 2012 3:09 AM EST reply actions
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82712545/article/redskins-haslett-forced-to-deny-qb-talk-after-fans-report?module=HP11_headline_stack
NFL.COM STORY ON RODSKINS!
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If the Skins trade up to 2
isn’t possible they are trying to draft Luck? Vick or Rogers? give me Rodgers.
Completely wrong.
Griffin is a pass first QB and extremely smart decision maker, nothing like Vick.
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by Andrew DeFrank on Feb 19, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
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