"Another Alternative to the QB Question", or "A Shana-plan Without the Tanne-man"
by The Agent C 83 on Feb 4, 2012 6:58 PM EST
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So let's say we can't get RGIII, and Tannehill goes before we can draft him or the law firm of Shanahan, Shanahan, and Allen decide that Ryan Tannehill is too raw and that they do not have the time to wait for him to develop.
What do we do?
Why not look at the guy who stood out the most during the Senior Bowl practice week for Coach Shanahan...Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden.
The thing that scares a lot of people about Weeden is his age, as he will turn 29 in the fall. However, in this day and age of free agency, how long can you hold on to a good QB anyway? Sure, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning stayed with their respective teams for a long time, but generally speaking one does not hold on to a starting QB for more than 5 or 6 seasons anymore unless you have THE guy.
Weeden, mainly due to his *ahem*...maturity, has shown leadership both at Ok. State and during the Senior Bowl practices. He's got a solid NFL arm, more mobile than Rex Grossman, and doesn't have the wear and tear that the average 29 year old NFL player has on them. Let's say you get 6 good years out of Weeden, he'll be 35 at the end of that time. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. In the meantime, if you get the opportunity to land a rookie a couple of years into Weeden's time as Redskins QB, you can groom them behind Weeden and not have to rush them into the starting role as you already have what should be a capable starter.
You're looking at a 2nd round pick right now for Weeden, which means that even though you are drafting a QB to start, he shouldn't cost Luck/RGIII money, allowing you room to spend money now and down the road as well.
Thoughts?
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That would be a waste of a 2nd rd pick
No matter what most people think Weeden is no closer to being a starter than anybody else in this draft. He will still be a ROOKIE and 29 years old does not help him, it will probably take a good season or 2 for him to adjust to the NFL game, so to me it is a wasted pick if you gonna draft a guy he should be a young guy that you can teach your system to.
I don't know...
…I think he’s probably the 3rd closest, behind Luck and RGIII, and I don’t think he is that far behind those two, just not quite as talented and youthful.
by The Agent C 83 on Feb 4, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Weinke
Won a Heisman trophy at 29, was drafted in the second round by the Panthers and started as a rookie. We all know how that worked out. I’m not saying Weeden is Weinke but I for one would rather have Foles.
a couple of things
I believe it was the 3rd round with Weinke, and he wasn’t even close to the college passer Weeden is.
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agreed....
I know we are always going to get comparisons, valid or not, to past busts and successes….but this one is ridiculous.
Although, if you also take into consideration that both of their last names start with a “W” I suppose you might have a valid comparison.
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haha
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I didn't compare the two
In fact, I said “I’m not saying Weeden is Weinke but I for one would rather have Foles.”
If we stike out on RG3(or Luck)
Weeden is my next choice. And yes, I’d use a 2nd on him. We had a good(not elite) arm. He’s pleanty mobile. He will make some bone-headed plays, as he seems to trust his arm a little too much at time, and has a tad bit of Gun-slinger in him, but overall, his mistakes are all coachable.
I’m not a fan of Gingers, but I’ll make an exception here. He’s currently my number 3 option, obviously behind Luck and RG3; and WAY ahead of Tannehill.
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is anyone worryed about his previous injury. He could be one hit away from serious injury after a torn labrum and tendenitus he got from his years in the MLB
Why waste a high pick on a 29 year old rookie that could go down after a big hit. I personally wouldnt pick him higher than 3rd round for his age, previous injury history, lack of arm strength, and the fact that he will only be a stop gap at the QB. if there is one thing the persistent RG3 fans have right why get a QB that is not gonna be the future of the franchise. I would grab anyone else but him.
HAIL 4 LIFE!!!!
Whoa whoa whoa...
…lack of arm strength? What universe are you in? Weeden’s arm is starting NFL QB caliber in the opinion of most people worth listening to.
Weeden can be the future for the next 5-6 years easily, that’s a bit more than a stopgap. His past injury isn’t one that playing in the NFL makes him so much more susceptible to a recurring problem. Just because you are a persistent RGIII fan, doesn’t mean that you can’t keep your eyes open to a backup plan.
by The Agent C 83 on Feb 4, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
ACTUALLY......
I am completely against the RG3 trade up idea. I want Nick Foles he is better than any of the other 2nd tier QBs IMO. Foles has amazing
Arm strength- the elite QB arm you look for in a NFL caliber QB
Accuracy- though his lack of good footwork does affect it he still shows amazing accuracy
Mobility- May not be up to RG3 or Tannehill standards but still good enough to extend the play. Also shows great pocket awarness
Vision- does great job looking down field even when scrabbling and finding open recievers
Now Weedens arm is not elite it is good it is enough to make most of the throws in the playbook but that is my opinion. I still say he is gonna be a bust/ back up
HAIL 4 LIFE!!!!
Weeden is a stopgap you maybe able to get 5-6 years MAYBE
He is gonna be 29 years old it is a fact your body starts to show signs of slowing down no matter how good you train. His shoulder is no exception his previous torn labrum and tendonitis is gonna start to catch up to him in a couple years its just a matter of time. all im saying is there is no way to tell the future with injuries it can be fine now then all of a sudden you get hit and it starts to act up or worse re injury. A injury is a injury. I also dont put too much
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how many years are the Jets going to get out of Sanchez? or did the Lions get out of Harrington etc.q
5 to 6 years is pretty damn good.
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Now Weedens arm is not elite it is good it is enough to make most of the throws in the playbook but that is my opinion. I still say he is gonna be a bust/ back up
I didn’t get to watch the practices this year, as I was away on business, but Steve, who was actually in mobile for the week, said Weeden had the best arm of the QB’s he saw down there(even Foles), and that he was by far, the most impressive.
I always thought Foles had the better arm, but Steve saw both guys in practice, and said Weeden showed better all week.
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you would have to have your arm hit a certain way to get a torn labrum and at that point just about any QB would have it happen
his previous injuries should have little bearing, b/c it is a completely different motion in throwing a FB and a BB. The strain on the shoulder isn’t the same at all.
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I dont think weeden will be a 2nd round pick
hes good but there are a lot of free agent quatrerbacks out there that are younger and actually have some nfl expierience I think at 29 he g\oes no earlier than the 4th. I would take foles in the 2nd
I don’t see why Sweden is more attractive than Flynn other than $
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Weeden
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Did you happen to take notice of their college careers?
Obviously I’m not comparing their pro careers, because either has yet to really have one.
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i think money is what it boils down to
It’s basically do you want Flynn and a 2nd round pick (also knowing that you got your guy and not hoping to play the board right in the draft)
Or Weeden and a big name free agent (downside here is maybe having to reach for Weeden earlier than you want, and that he is a couple years older than Flynn.
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im thinking flynn and foles
but we might have to over pay from to get him away from going to the dolphins. but the fact that the dolphins have a better guy in town right now then we do might help offset the price a bit.
If it's a strike out
on a trade up, I’d go the Weeden route any day, before the other options; and yes, i’d take him in the 2nd. I’d also look to get another signal caller to be groomed; maybe Big Brock.
If Weeden was the target in the 2nd, I have to shoot for a CB in the 1st, as I think that’s where the value would be. The tade back would be ideal, but who I question who is going to be there to trade up for.
I would love it, if Reiff was staring us in the face at #6, and we traded back with the Bears to #19, and got their 2nd round pick. I would target Jefferies or Floyd at #19, then get Weeden and Potter(who I believe is vastly underrated) in the 2nd.
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