If you are Peyton Manning...
by Copious 1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:29 PM EST
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Would YOU choose to come to the Redskins? Seriously, I'm not bashing my team, just being absolutely realistic about the Redskins chances. I don't care what the Shanahan's want or what the fan base wants, at the end of the day...none of that matters. It's about where Peyton Manning sees himself contending for and/or winning his next Super Bowl. ESPN has a post up on the side column (see below) briefly highlights the 7 likeliest destinations for Peyton outside of Indy (The Magnificent 7):
"The Magnificent Seven"
Arizona Cardinals: Larry Fitzgerald is reportedly dining with Manning this week, there could be some recruiting going on there. ESPN NFC West blogger Mike Sando notes that the team has until March 17 to make a decision onKevin Kolb's option bonus, likely giving them time to make a decision on Manning beforehand.
Cleveland Browns. The Browns need a long-term answer at QB, but why not grab a short-term one this season and address some other concerns with two first-round picks (including No. 4 overall)? There will be other QBs to draft in 2013.
Miami Dolphins. They've been looking for a franchise QB since Dan Marino, and have yet to find him. Miami swung and missed on Jeff Fisher; will they do anything it takes to make sure that doesn't happen with Manning?
New York Jets. It's been reported thatcertain anonymous Jets players would opt for Peyton over incumbent starterMark Sanchez. Does management agree? And is Peyton interested in the media circus?
San Francisco 49ers. Alex Smith -- impressive as he was (finally?) this season -- is hitting free agency. Does San Francisco prefer a player around which they can possibly build a decent contender for the next several seasons or a player that could push them over the top in 2012?
Seattle Seahawks. The one QB-needy team that has been lurking in the shadows as of yet, the Seahawks have a nice collection of weaponry on offense, and a management team that has shown it's willing to take a calculated risk.
Washington Redskins. As with the Browns, the Redskins are in need of a long-term franchise QB, but might settle for a short-term answer that would instantly make them contenders for the NFC East crown. A rumor back on Jan. 13linked both Peyton and long-time teammate Jeff Saturday to Washington, and that could be a selling point for the QB.
My Thoughts:
- I don't see Peyton wanting to play in the same division as his brother, and possibly not even the same conference.
- Peyton's decision will not be about money and I believe that is the only way Peyton becomes a Redskin
- A top WR would be a huge bonus and the Redskins receiving corp does not have one (Hank maybe, but not yet)
- I believe San Fran would be at the top of the list because their defense and running game are elite. Davis is a Stud. Crabtree is more talented than the entire colts receiving corp (with the exception of Wayne who could join via free agency) and could explode with Manning under center. The Niner's also have a projected $46 million in cap space for next year plus their full complement of draft picks.
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Its not that far of a stretch to say that the chances would be very good
at Hank being a true #1 receiver with Manning at the helm. I don’t see Peyton having as many options as he would if his neck wasn’t involved. That’s going to scare folks off. I’m still kit sold on Indy letting him go either, dependent upon health of course
by Bryan Black on Feb 3, 2012 6:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
you are asking the wrong question...
It is not going to come down to JUST where he wants to play. There are reports that SF WILL NOT pursue him, so…
if I were the 49ers I'd say I wasn't pursuing him too but I'd really be doing it
The last thing they want is to pursue Peyton, not get him and be stuck with a pouting Alex Smith.
Misinformation is part of the GMs game.
I agree, tons of misinformation...
and SF would be the best landing spot. Would Harbaugh leave Manning alone to run his offense, that is the question?
ANYONE
In their right mind should not sign him . 1 Hit and he could be out plus pull a albert haynesworth and take the money and run . To many risks with manning period , just build from the draft and stop wasting cap money on someone elses garbage who comes to our team to retire and steal our money.
If he's writing his own ticket,
San Fran in a heartbeat. Look at the rest of that division. They positively owned it this year, and you add a passing attack to that?
Same reason I think there’s no chance he’ll end up in Miami. Having to play the Jets D twice a year and being in a constant struggle with the Pats for the divisional spot? Maybe the worst spot in the league to for another ring.
please justify your comment.
49ers, Jets, Cardinals, and Seattle have all gotten much closer than us in the past 10 years. Actually……Seattle and the Cardinals have both been to the Super Bowl in the past 10 years, so I’m confused by your comment.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
because they cant get over the hump.
look at the eagles, bills, denver eway early years,they came close but never won it. look at the falcons. they were the number 1 team last year and they lost to the sixth seed. the redskins will be fighting like hell to get to the playoffs. and those teams are playoff ready where u have the higher seeds already had their spot on lock down. and those teams tend to lose to the battle tested teams… if we were able to get a healthy manning have a good draft and sign a good WR. we could be in shape for a playoff spot. once there with a battle tested schedule anything can happen. those other teams have proven they cant win it all with good teams already. we havent had our shot yet.
Copious 1 cites some good pro reasons for teams other than the Redskins for being Peyton's destination.
The 49ers compete in the NFL West.
Crabtree has not been a successful WR for the 49ers and has conflicted with Alex Smith. Davis fits the current trend of
of the TE mold. A QB like Peyton should take the 49ers over the top for the super bowl. Smith can’t compete through the season with high powered offenses. The 49ers OL has not reached it’s peak. Their main RB still has some gas in the tank (maybe for a few more years).
The piece that I don't see
What makes the 9 (at this time) folks feel as though the Redskins are a better option than the other teams listed?
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
I don't think the
redskins are a “better” option than the rest of the teams here, but outside of San Fran and the Jets, I don’t see the other teams as being a better option as well. I think if San Fran and the jets are off the table (which I believe they will be) its going to come down to what coach he likes best, what system will fit him the best, and what team he think is rebuilding in the right way. After all, the place he would most like to go (indy) is in worse shape than all the teams listed.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Two facts can't contradict each other.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 3, 2012 10:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
These are facts?
1. I don’t see Peyton wanting to play in the same division as his brother, and possibly not even the same conference.
2. Peyton’s decision will not be about money and I believe that is the only way Peyton becomes a Redskin
Just bring generous with the way I stated them.
IMO… they after facts. Only person who can actually confirm is Peyton.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 3, 2012 10:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The jets
Will not make a play for him. Word around town is they will give Sanchez another year. Nor can I see them carrying both sanchez’s and manning contract. Which leaves San fran as the only team that could be a contender. I just can’t see them making such a major change after getting so close to the sb with smith, who despite a poor championship played relatively well this year.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Alex Smith showed in the playoffs that he is no SB QB
I can’t imagine a GM passing up opportunities to fix the 1 weak link in his team.
Other teams
You could put on this list would be the titans jaguars, and kc. And I could see Jerry jones start to sniff around as well.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
I had to vote for the Cleveland Dolphins
Is that one of the 2 possible expansion teams Goodell was talking about?
I doubt that Peyton will decide based on who he thinks has the best chance
to win a Super Bowl. He probably thinks that any NFL team with him at QB can win the SB. I also don’t think he will decide strictly on money – he has plenty already – but the contract would have to be fitting for a superstar. I doubt that SF will go after him – I think they will keep Smith. The Eli factor may not mean much, either – after all, QBs don’t go against each other. One big factor in his decision might be whether he thought he would like to play for the team, be able to do his thing, so his meetings with the Shanahans would be crucial. They would have to agree to adapt their system to Peyton. Not completely, but enough so Peyton thought he could thrive and have fun. My guess is that he initially is very favorable to the Skins – they are a famous, glamorous, big market team, playing in a tough division, with a great coach and dynamic owner – a lot of prestige and visibility, and a great challenge. Winning here would be a great way to end his career. All this doesn’t mean I think the Skins should chase him – that’s up to Shanahan, and it is a tough decision. But I think that Peyton would be open to coming here.
You lost me here
I doubt that Peyton will decide based on who he thinks has the best chance
to win a Super Bowl.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
Of course he wants to win a Super Bowl
but that doesn’t mean he would go to the team he perceives as being best right now. He thinks he can make any team a winner. There is such parity in the NFL, any team can make the SB in a year or two. I have no doubt that Peyton could possibly get the Skins to the SB in a year or two. I mean “could” in the sense of it is conceivable, or possible, not that I would necessarily be predicting it. So from Peyton’s point of view, the various contenders are about equal in talent and potential. What could be more important is gut instinct, where he wants to play, the coach and general situation.
As Redskin44 said below, the money has to be good enough to not be insulting – he has pride. And Hogtiejims point below, about Peyton liking the Miami area, could be major. After all, he is rich and famous enough to want to live where he wants.
...rich and famous enough to live where he wants
He presumably has to move his family somewhere, so it would logically be to somewhere he likes. He’s a southerner, so might like Virginia a bit more than Miami or San Francisco.
Dude only has at best 3 years.
He will want to get to a Super Bowl next year. We’re no in that running.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 4, 2012 10:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yea but you could say the about mcnabb
Don’t you think he wanted to go to the Superbowl with the redskins…or do you think he planned to have the worst season of his career. Imma have to agree with donnio
Q-tip
by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 5, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
look how the Colts imploded without him. Were they ever really any good without him or did he make the rest of them look better than they really were? Probably a little of both but I do think a QB makes the rest of the team look a lot better. If we did pick up Peyton and then drafted a couple of OL and a couple of WRs then we might be good enough for a Giantsesque SB run next year.
I don’t think we’ll be at the top of his list though.
I would also add
While I agree with your point that the $ is not a primary concern on his part, I do think it will carry some wait. I think anybody that low balls Peyton or puts too many conditions into the contract will be viewed as disprespecting him
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Peyton seems to want a good relationship with a coach he respects. That’s really the only reason he could possibly pick Washington. Arizona is more likely because he can have that coach and a weapon like Fitzgerald. Miami seems to primarily be a option because he has spent so much time down there and loves the area.
Virginia is a lot prettier - greener - than Arizona (desert, hot, dry)
Also, not really a big city.
"Virginia" is not really a big city...
…because it is a Commonwealth ;)
by The Agent C 83 on Feb 4, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
i prefer arizona
but that could just be grass is always greener on the other side envy….(if arizona had grass but you get what im sayen…)
Q-tip
by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 5, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Phoenix offers a lot...
Phoenix is a great option for Peyton for several reasons:
1. Cardinals have a better talent base, particularly at receiver.
2. Established coach who has been to a Super Bowl in the last decade.
3. AZ has no state income tax. They can offer the same $ as another team yet Peyton ends up with more $ after tax.
4. Cost of living is lower in AZ.
5. Phoenix is a great place to live and raise a family. Don’t discount this factor- he’s got a wife and kids.
most of that is irrelevant
Coaches with SB experience doesn’t really mean anything. Cost of living – who cares when you’re rich. For rich folks VA is also a nice place to raise a family.
Better receivers is a good point but what about the AZ OL?
San Fran is probably his best option
Best shot at a SB, by far.
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