Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Following UFC 146 Loss, Jason 'Mayhem' Miller 'Done' in UFC

RGIII to D.C. Part I: History

Over the next two weeks, I will be doing a four-part series on Robert Griffin III, his time in Baylor, and how his skill set will fit into the West-Coast scheme laid out by Shanahan and Company. In order for me to answer that question, we will have to look at where he is coming from, not just where he could go.

I'll also give you my opinion on what the Redskins offensive scheme may transform into should they draft RGIII in April.

We will begin this four-part series with a brief history of RGIII at Baylor, Baylor's Offensive Scheme (Spread Option), and The Redskins Offensive Scheme (West-Coast)..

RGIII began his freshman year at Baylor in 2008, and had already established himself as a play maker by earning Big 12's Offensive Freshman of the Year and setting multiple records. His 2009 season with the Bears would start off just as hot, but would abruptly end with a torn ACL. In 2010 he was officially listed as a red shirt sophomore and would effectively begin to turn the tide for the Baylor Bears. In 2011 Griffin would win the coveted Heisman Trophy over highly touted Stanford QB Andrew Luck, and rightfully so. He threw for 4,657 yards, 36 touchdowns, and a QB Rating of 192.3.

Star-divide

Griffin was a natural fit for Baylor's version of the Spread Option Offense. The spread option relies on a mobile QB and is normally considered a run-first scheme. The simplicity of this offense is something NFL Analysts are questioning, but Griffin has repeatedly conveyed the opposite. The Spread Option allows the quarterback multiple options normally relying on the QB's read of the 'backside' defensive lineman or linebacker. Baylor instituted this system very effectively in 2011, partly because of the sheer athleticism of RGIII. Scouts and NFL Analysts also question whether he is a 'run first' mobile quarterback. His rushing statistics compared over his nearly three full seasons at Baylor indicate his choice to run has lessened since his freshman season. Griffin has said on multiple occasions that he considers the run a last option as opposed to his only one.

Robert Griffin's performance at the 2012 combine was more than expected from the Baylor Junior. Griffin ran an official 4.41 (With an NFL un-official 4.38) 40-yard dash, being the third-fastest quarterback in the NFL Combine era. Many understood that one of Griffin's best assets would be his athleticism, but I don't think very many expected him to blow it up in the fashion that he did. Griffin didn't throw at the combine, instead choosing to throw in a controlled environment with known receivers at the Baylor Pro-Day on March 21st, one day before Standford's Andrew Luck.

The question to answer, though, is how will Griffin fit into Kyle Shanahan's West-Coast style offense?

For those that don't understand the ‘West-Coast' terminology, think of it as more of a theory than a style. There is no East/West coast offensive breakdown; the West-Coast term actually comes from Former Giants Head Coach Bill Parcells:

After a playoff victory over the San Francisco 49'ers on 1985, Parcells made the statement "What do you think of that West-Coast offense, now?"

The system is designed to counter the idea of establishing the run first, in order to open up vertical passing lanes. In a ‘WCO', the idea is to spread a defense using horizontal passing routes to open up longer runs or vertical passes. A WCO requires smaller, agile receivers as opposed to large deep threat receivers who have trouble getting open in short range.

In essence, the WCO differs vastly from the Baylor Spread Option.

Though not required, a mobile quarterback is considered a plus in West-Coast offenses to counter the short time alotted for the quarterback to make his decision. In a WCO, the receiving routes are generally much shorter and take considerably less time than traditional routes. With that being said, the QB must be intelligent and often anticipate more than usual when making his decisions. A mobile quarterback is able to buy more time with his legs, and even make a play with them if needed. Some comparisons would be Mike Vick, Randall Cunningham, and Donovan McNabb (in his prime) to name a few.

Questions about his intelligence or mental state have also been relatively answered. His interviews on National Television and Radio exhibit a maturity level greatly undervalued. The Washington Redskins don't just need a quarterback, they need a franchise face. Can Griffin fill those holes? In an interview just recently released, Steve quizzes RGIII on a (very simple) WCO play. Needless to say, he passed with flying colors. He did mix up some of the terminology and potentially some of the protection, but if you watch the video it's clear he is able to retain information very quickly. (That was for you, UK).

Those are the questions I will be trying to answer. How will Robert Griffin, who has played his whole college career in a Spread Option style offense, fit into the Redskins' West-Coast scheme? Can RGIII effectively revive a faultering fan-base?

Check back in later this week for RGIII to D.C. Part II: Baylor's Spread Option. I'll break down film of RGIII and how effective he was running the spread.

Part II

Follow me on Twitter @ArmyRedskin

My Website: The Burgundy Warpath

Comment 75 comments  |  4 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

the anticipation is killing me!

Life is like a game of chess..you best make yo next move yo best move!

by BSNUFFER10 on Feb 28, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

Cool man, i'm diggin it

I want this guy. As long as the cost isn’t too redick. I’d draw the line at 3 first rounders personally. 2 firsts and a few other random picks, sounds good to me. But anyway I think this guy would energize the fan base like no one we have ever had before. I know, winning energizes more than anything, and I think griffin can do that here.

Look, last year was the first year since norve turner that I did not go to ANY GAMES. I watched them all, but I even turned down free tickets a couple of times because I just had better things to do than watch grossman throw picks.

If we get RGIII I will be there opening day to cheer him on. I just think this franchise could really use that right now. Our offense, team and fanbase would embrace this guy like no one else. We are so qb starved its not even funny. I admit though I am fixated on this one prospect and have blinders on now. I don’t know how it happened…but it did!

anyway, looking forward to the rest o’this.

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Feb 28, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Historical Scary

RGIII looks like the real deal, as does Andrew Luck: Historically: QB’s selected 1 and 2 in the draft have not fared well.

by dr WNC on Feb 28, 2012 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

true

but id take that chance over another season of a rex grossman or john beck type qb of qbs as our only options at qb any day

by munson21502 on Feb 29, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

great post i am looking forward to your future posts learned a few things about the west coast offense in this thread.

i also look forward to drafting RG3 and i also look forward to seeing griffin being the second black qb to win a superbowl for us :D

by munson21502 on Feb 28, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

I'm warming to the idea of RGIII...

but my sticking point is still next years 1st. Though that seems to be the starting point.

by 2up2down on Feb 28, 2012 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

if you did NOT see Mooch's interview...

you are missing out on a GREAT blackboard conversation. This shows how smart he is.

I can’t wait….

by jgibbsfan1 on Feb 28, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

RG3

Gentlemen, this is my first time posting in 2 years. Been back and forth on deployments to Iraq and Afghan. I just want to say I’ve been reading all comments though and I had to start a new signature since I wasn’t able to find my old one. I’ve been a die hard fan since 1982. I’m a warrant officer and I’m now station in Ft. Hood, TX for the the second time and just bought my home there. RG3 is all we talk about there. I’m currently in school in VA, but my wife and teenage kids are waiting on me to get home. To give good info on RG3’s family background. RG3’s parents go to a church I used to frequent. If you didn’t know, his Dad is a retired after 20 years.They are so down to earth it’s unreal. Down in Texas, his dad and the rest of us refer to him as Robert. I never thought he’d blow up like this from the media because he did his thing here at Copperas Cove high school and it didn’t seem like a big deal. Texas high school football is so huge and full of many great football players, he kind of just blended in. I’m bias, but I love his military upbringing. I was on the fence about giving up picks, because I love what direction Shanny has taken us as far as draft picks. But I’ve seen us never go after a legit PROSPECT since I’ve been a fan. Heath Shuler was not that good in my opinion coming out of college. Jason Campbell? Please don’t get me started! No real opportunity has ever come where we’ve been high enough in the draft to try and get a potential franchise QB. Yes, it’s scary giving up picks from this year and next, but not when you’ve been trading up for mediocre QBs since I’ve been a fan. Diesel44, please post your opinions more because I always seem to agree with most things you post and your funny as heck. Kevin, Ken, Parks, keep up the hard work. I know I’ll see RG3 a lot at home during the summer so I hope we make the jump and go get Robert. It would be nice to feel like we have a chance in every game, no matter who we play. My old stubborn hog days are over. No QB, no chance these days in the NFL. By the way, I ran into Rocky McIntosh at the movie theater in Killeen too. His family still lives there.

Redskins fan since 1983! HTTR!

by Redskins83 on Feb 28, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good post Ronnie

It just makes sense on so many levels to obtain the services of Mr. Griffin.

See how excited people on here get when we just have a post on the kid………………..imagine the excitement that will surround this team if we somehow were to draft him!

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

I rec'd
He did mix up some of the terminology and potentially some of the protection, but if you watch the video it’s clear he is able to retain information very quickly. (That was for you, UK).

Haha cheers. I didn’t mean to put a downer on it, was only saying…

by UkRedskin on Feb 28, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

if it is true, that he hasn't had much training in "reading"...

imagine what some coaching will do.

This is our moment. We have waited for 20 years, my friends. Prepare yourselves to experience what many fans of other organizations have had, what we had back in the 80’s and now will have again…

by jgibbsfan1 on Feb 28, 2012 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

Man I hope we get this kid.

I’d totally do weird things with him.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I’d totally do weird things with him.

This is scary. Man I hope RG3 doesn’t read this blog.

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to cool my expectations.

It takes two teams to make a deal, so we might not get him.

If we end up with Tannehill, I’ll have to live with it.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 8:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Three most likely scenarios for the drafting a QB..

1. Trade up for RG- At least 2 1st’s and a 2nd, possibly an additional 3/4
2. Draft Tannehill at #6- won’t be there at #39 and you can’t risk trading back.
3. Draft Weedon at #39

My preference would be scenario 1 followed by 3. If we draft Tannehill at #6, I will burn Ashburn to the ground Milton Adams style from The office.

@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.

by Diesel44 on Feb 28, 2012 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I'm really not feeling Tannehill.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Really Diesel, you'd be up for giving that up?

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd give up 2 1st's, a 2nd and then a package of you, Smutsboy, and Obey.

There is two potential elite QBS in the draft followed by a guy with 17 starts and an average skill set (Tannehill) and then a dude that will turn 29 his rookie year (Weedon).

Some other considerations..
1. 47 mil under the cap
2. 2010 draft (TW, Riley Perry, Austin, Cook) and then 10 guys from 2011 are on the roster not to mention last year’s quality FA haul.
3. We have 16 picks over the next 2 years and if this isn’t the year to trade up sitting at 6, then when will we be in position to do so?

Seriously if we draft Tannehill at #6…I will fight Mike, Kyle, and Chris Simms.

@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.

by Diesel44 on Feb 28, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You'd trade me to SAINT LOUIS!?!?!?

I’ll never advocate Tannehill at 6. But I just can’t mortgage the farm for RG3, I’d be ok with your package though (dumb ih8 joke in 3….2….)

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

SHUT UP!

(Runs off crying)

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Man

I with ya D

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Redskins @RGIII - 2012

by Copious 1 on Feb 28, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

That's beautiful.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea RG3 on Trent Williams body... crazy stuff haha

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

A Dream

Get RG3 !

just trying to leave a dent...

by Jorge Villadiego on Feb 28, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

According to "league sources" the Skins have the best offer on the table.

The Browns don’t want to let go of the number 22 pick.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 9:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This could also be complete bull

just to throw people off

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all throwing me off.

I don’t know what to think anymore.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't like any of the male singers this year.

It seems like they all sing songs suited for girls.

The black guy who sings gospel did the best tonight.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 10:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

that Paramore song is great, and he did it justice

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Do I qualify as a "league source"?

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

My old Nike Air Max qualify as "league sources."

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm with Diesel on this one, I have a Bad Feeling.

I have a bad feeling that if we don’t get Robert, we’ll end up taking Tannehill at 6. It’s not a good idea to force him there like the Vikings did Ponder last year. Crazy. You have to maximize that high of a draft pick if possible. You better believe Tannehill will be gone if we trade out though. Everyone that doesn’t have a QB is forcing them now. Money is no longer an issue to do so high in the draft.

Redskins fan since 1983! HTTR!

by Redskins83 on Feb 28, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

God, it will be an epic fail

if we draft Tannehill at #6………………worse than Reiff at #6

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Terrible idea, you talk about flushing a pick down the toilet

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you followed Mike Shanahan's career?

Getting a primetime DB or adding yet another pass rusher would make a lot more sense.

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

DB I could live with.

Pass rusher? What would we do with him?

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Rush the passer, like the Giants

novel concept

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be all up for taking a linebacker every single year

except we don’t have that pesky QB thing figured out yet.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So how does that justify Richardson then? It has nothing to do with your thought

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He

Just wants it all haha

by ThomasJJ on Feb 28, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Blackmon's height dropped him big time in my opinion. I think Floyd and Sanu may turn out to be the best WRs in this draft

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Diesel is wise

by HogtieJim on Feb 28, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Richardson

Is tempting but we really do not need a rb right now, db ol and wr take priority over yet another rb to the shanny stable of rbs

by ThomasJJ on Feb 28, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone catch the RG3 interview on NFLN where he said he hopes the team that gets him doesn't give up a lot?

Because he said he’d like the team to have a lot of weapons and fellow rookies when he gets into the league?

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 28, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Man

He answered that question with so much humility and confidence it made have to loosen my belt to breath easy.

by ThomasJJ on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

he is a baller.

I love my draft picks. But I’m making an exception. I will be sad if we can’t move up to get him..My gut tells me he’s going to be a HOF. Ill eat crow if he’s terrible.

Life is like a game of chess..you best make yo next move yo best move!

by BSNUFFER10 on Feb 28, 2012 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Would love to get RG3

I don’t really doubt his ability, but it’s always a huge risk to lay as much as is being suggested on the table. God forbid things don’t pan out and we spend another 10 years in the stone age.

by Joe Bradshaw on Feb 29, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

I see people over on Turf Show Times saying they’d like Helu thrown in the deal. I like Helu, but I’d gladly see him thrown in if it put the Skins over the top for RGIII.

We’ve got too many heroes. We need some monsters.
- The Jade Donkey

by Baildog on Feb 29, 2012 2:16 AM EST reply actions  

Oh gladly give them Helu

Not even a question. With Shanny’s RB reputation… In a heartbeat.

by tman5 on Feb 29, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions  

We don't know if Hightower is going to come back healthy

and Helu showed so much promise for a rookie. I’d hate to see him go.

R.I.P JVP 1926-2012

by Tiller56 on Feb 29, 2012 6:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I did in interview with STL Sports radio before our game this year...

Helu strikes fear in those people’s hearts. St. Louis is a big Mizzou town and Helu had an incredible game against them that those people have not forgot.

Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions

by Parks Smith on Feb 29, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Can you just imagine the game teaser lines...

“Tune in tomorrow night as Griffin and the Redskins take on Romoand the Cowboys”

OH. MY. GOD.

by tman5 on Feb 29, 2012 3:18 AM EST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Media Requests please email hogshaven@gmail.com

Managers

Superbowl_small Kevin Ewoldt

Riggins_small Ken Meringolo

Editors

Sb_small Parks Smith

Small Steve Shoup

Chalkboard_football-opt403x300o00s403x300_small UkRedskin

Washington_redskins_helmet_small Redskins News

Authors

Badshirt2__2__small fatpickle

Family_in_disney_small Tiller56

Rg3super_small HTTR4LIFE

Hh_small Ronnie Adkins