The Real Pre-Combine Redskins Mock Draft
It is practically all about the offense this year. We, the fans, are all sick of Rex Grossman and the lack of weapons. We have a good defense and some defensive backs will solidify that, so fix that offense and get to the playoffs once again
Sign- CB Brandon Carr to a 4-year contract
WR Vincent Jackson to a 1-year contract; franchise him next year for a 1st round draft pick if he has a good year.
SS Tyvon Branch to a 1-year contract; will be available if LaRon Landry gets hurt again.
Draft
1st/2nd: Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
-Give Up 6th pick, 70th pick, and 1st round pick next year. JACKPOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2nd/39th: Trade
-Give Up 39th pick and 109th pick New England's 48th and 63rd picks. The trade is with New England because they have 2 2nd round picks and they may be able to land a quality wide receiver opposite Wes Welker with an earlier pick. Bruce Allen should be able to make this happen.
2nd/48th: Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
-Brandon Boykin impressed at the Senior Bowl. He was quick, fast, had nice size, and was physical throughout the week. He reminds me of Deangelo Hall with extras. Not to mention, Boykin also has kick return ability so Banks can do what he does best, punt return.
2nd/63rd: Trade
-Give Up 63rd and 159th overall pick for Chicago's 74th, 80th and 111th overall pick. Chicago would love another 2nd round pick, because they need some help on defense, assuming that they get a 1st round wide receiver. And even though it is the last pick in the 2nd round they will take to land a solid player. Then once we give them a 5 round pick as well that will seal the deal for that extra 4th round pick.
3rd/74th: Bobby Massie, OT, Ole Miss
- RT Bobby Massie is a bigger need than most people think. Jammal Brown cannot stay healthy, and Mike Shanahan already announced that Jammal Brown will not come back next year if he is not, indeed, "100% healthy" therefore we should definitely draft a RT like Bobby. He has also shown true skill at Ole Miss. He has quick feet for lateral movement, the strength to open up lanes in the running game, and he will be able to help solidify the OL for RG3. Bobby Massie will most likely be an immediate starter opposite Trent Williams here in Washington.
3rd/80th: Trade
-Give up 80th overall pick for Cleveland's 100th, 118th, and 164th overall picks. A mid 3rd round draft pick is worth all of the late round picks. Cleveland will definitely accept, because of the division they are in. 2 solid 3rd round picks can solidify whatever position they need. This trade will allow us to have plenty of late round picks.
4th/100th: Trade
-Give up 100th for Buffalo's 105th and 124th. More...late round picks?! Everyone in the league knows Mike Shanahan loves them. He always finds that diamond in the rough like Roy Helu and Evan Royster from last year. This allows us to get some of the things we need that we have not yet gotten in the draft, like a wide receiver.
4th/102nd: James Michael-Johnson, MLB, Nevada
-We need depth at MLB. James Michael-Jonson will be able to learn from London Fletcher for a few years and potentially become a starter like Perry Riley. If he does not pan out though, the Washington Redskins did not put that much stock into him anyway.
4th/105th: Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
-With a good QB this TE looks like Jermichael Finley! He produces great numbers in the receiving game. Michael Egnew is 6 feet 5 inches, 250 lbs, had 90 receptions, 762 yards, and 5 touchdowns in 2010. He cannot block in the running game, hence being a late round draft pick; however, he may be able to challenge Fred Davis for our receiving tight-end spot.
4th/111th: Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
-Jarius Wright is a sudden speedster. He may not look like it but he does beat people deep. He also is more of a receiver than Joe Adams who is a true speedster. He catches with his hands, makes fast cuts, and will be able to cause separation in the slot against nickel corners and linebackers.
4th/118th: Gerell Robinson, WR, Arizona State
-Here is the second wide receiver drafted by the Washington Redskins. He showed that he could be a great possession wide receiver based on his performance at the Senior Bowl. And, from an unnamed source, the Redskins seem to be intrigued by the one-year wonder. He has speed, hands, and is very tall. Gerell Robinson reminds me of a young Plaxico Burress who could produce on 3rd down conversions, in red zone situations, and YAC.
4th/124th: Tramain Thomas, FS, Arkansas
-Tramain Thomas was a good FS at Arkansas. He had 5 interceptions and over 80 tackles. He is a little inconsistent, but he will develop by time Atogwe is gone and his contract has expired.
6th/164th: Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State
-Miles Burris is a QB hunter, and is always around the ball. He will be able to compete with Michael-Johnson for the back-up middle linebacker position because he has the speed to fly around the field and make plays. Miles will also compete for 3-4 DE here when Stephen Bowen's contract expires even though he is a 4-3 DE; which brings me to my next statement. He can perform on the edge of the 3-4 as a back-up OLB in the 3-4. He will also get playing time on those plays when it is a n all out blitz or an obvious run play situation.
7th/196th: Case Keenum, QB, Houston
-Case Keenum is a really good QB, but QBs from Houston seem to not do well in the NFL. He is intelligent, has a quick release, and amazing footwork. He has been under the radar all year and will possibly fall this far. Case Keenum will be outstanding on the field in case RG3 is a bust or injured, who is such a mobile QB.
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Aggressive! I like it.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 21, 2012 10:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Like trading back
I like the idea of trading back. In your scenario we still pick a player in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and get extra picks later in the draft. The Parcells/ Belichick philosophy was getting as many picks as possible, the more players you draft the better odds you have of getting guys that stick on the roster.
I think the quality of players decreases sharply after the 3rd/4th round however there are always players that can be found in the later rounds. I agree with you that Shanahan likes those late rounds picks, and I think our front office can find some talent with those late round picks. I like the strategy.
I particularly like the Jarius Wright and Egnew picks. I think they would add some talent on the outside and could produce for us as early as next year.
I think we would target at least one, maybe two interior O-linemen in the later rounds. I was reading some article earlier, forget the site, that was talking about how with our scheme, Shanahan targets specific lineman that other teams may not see value in. Maybe theyre undersized or what not, but by finding specific types of lineman that fit our scheme, Shanahan is able to find more value in the later rounds. I believe they compared this to the Eagles and Howard Mudd liking a specific type of linemen. They found a starter in the late rounds, I believe 6th, when they picked up Jason Kelce last year.
Nice comment
I agree with you on all aspects and will think about it for my next one. HTTR
i agree
i read that article as well. The eagles plugged in a 6th rounder as a starter. i think we have our to starters at tackles ( williams and smith). i think we just need more depth and we will be much improved.
by back_to_the_future on Feb 22, 2012 7:06 AM EST up reply actions
Seems a bit ambitious
I don’t think well be able to land RG3 and still have a shot at a 2nd 3rd and multiple 4ths even with the trades..
by skinsfan3636 on Feb 21, 2012 10:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You have to be when you are a Redskins fan
The Redskins have been through some rough patches and we all wan to win and have fun, so I did go little bit over board because I want the best for the team. And the best redskins mock draft is right here. HTTR
I like the choices
I think you are too optimistic over 2 1sts and a 4th for Griffin, I think 1st, 3rd, 1st will be best case scenario, and I got a feeling it will probably end up more like 1st, 2nd, 1st for him. I like your targets though. I question drafting a CB in the 2nd with Carr unless you are implying trading/cutting Hall. I’m happy with our nickel depth (whether that is Wilson or Hall) and think we’re pretty set at CB (assuming we sign Carr, who is a freak). You also put a lot of attention at WR considered we sign VJax. I’d probably skip out on Boykin in the 2nd and go Alshon Jeffery, who, although slow, is such a freak big body I think we could really use him. I like the Wright pick, but if we went my way, I’d change him and Robinson out for a couple more o-line, we need to continue depth. If we were to pick up an OL in FA, then keep Wright in, he is a great talent and really underestimated in my opinion.
I appreciate the RG3 pick though, I really want that kid and it irks me in people thinking there are better options out there. You gotta make sacrifices sometimes to get the right guy: do what it takes to get the right guy.
I understand Thanks
In some aspects you were right but the 70th pick in the trade is indeed a 3rd round pick. I don’t think it will be 2 1st and a 2nd because know one really predicted that Cleveland would trade up for RG3 until Kiper blew it up, which kind of frustrates me. Next, Hall will be a 4th string where he should because his stats show that he has given up 13 TDs and 70% completion percentage in the past to years when all the greats give up about 40% of passes thrown there way. I am trying to follow the Packers in this aspect because they have plenty of CBs to work with. Sadly, I do not like Alshon Jeffery for no apparent reason. I like my picks,Gerell and Jarius, because Gerell could be that guy who can finally catch those slant and fade routes, while Jarius right could be used like a Wes Welker type and spread out some guys in the slot. Then, u said we do not have a lot of depth at OL, but do not forget, back-ups played OK at LT, LG, C, RT last year considering that most of them were as young as they are. Another RT for back up would help though if we got him as a UDFA.
I don't think Vincent Jackson or Branch would consider signing for a single year
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True Dat haha
With 40 million dollars in the bank we should consider them to long term deals knowing RG3 gets a lower salary because of the new CBA rules. Vincent will take a lower salary than the top wideouts because he knows that he has never caught more than 68 balls a season considering how explosice he is. If we sign Vincent Jackson then, you are right, he probably will sign for a longer deal and in 2013 we can work on the FSposition. Just think about it, then we may we able to have good competition for what WRs we will continue to let develop with RG3. Tyvon Branch on the other hand will be a stretch. Know one knows how it will effect LaRon Landry, who said in a recent article that he will be ready at the start of the season. Still, Tyvon Branch is not much younger then Landry and could possibly challenge him, so he can be the star safety that we all know and love. HTTR
well there is no guarantee that Landry will be back so looking at other options is good (though I expect Branch will re-sign or be franchised by the Raiders)
as for Jackson I wouldn’t come close to getting him. Esp. if you want to bring in a rookie QB. This is a guy who would yell at Phillip Rivers, do we really want him doing that with Griffin?
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
nice mock
free agency not so great why target the oldest WR with the most off field issues? I think we end up with colston
carr great pick up and so is branch but for 1 year? he’s a starter he wont sign to be a back-up
your draft was great my only problem with your off season plan is you never fixed the interior line man no guards or centers other than that its great I like how we didnt have to sacrifice our left arm to move up and were able to move back and and fill our roster
Much rather prefer Colston over VJax
Actually I’d prefer Colston over Stevie and Bowe too.
I think VJax is overrated. Yes, he has the physical, athletic ability with his height/weight/speed combo. I just think Rivers made him look good. Look what Rivers did the last couple years when they had receivers out and picked up guys off the street. He got them all to play. A good QB makes receivers look better and I think that was in part why VJax has put up the production he has.
Am I going to complain and whine if we sign VJax? Hell no, he is certainly an upgrade over what we have, I just think he’s overrated. Come to think of it, I kinda think all the big name receivers on the market this year are overrated, even though they would all be upgrades over what we have. I just think they aren’t worth the money that they’re going to get. Having said that, We still need an upgrade for our receiving corps.
I find it hard to trade away that 2nd round pick, when we have so many needs that pick can fill
I love the move up for RG3, but I’m still preparing to give our 2nd this year. If it turns out to be a 3rd, then we need to use that 2nd for either:
WR – possibility Jeffery or Wright slip; if not Sanu is my favorite
OL – There should be some nice options in the 2nd. Could Cordy Glenn fall a bit? Sanders? Zeitler?
CB – There will be some studs still avaliable here
Even LB – what if Berfict were avaliable?
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
it's kinda a moot point b/c it would be included in any trade up scenario anyways
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 22, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Nice Mock
The only problem I see is if Brandon Lloyd leaves the Rams, and gets the gig with the Pats that he has publicly said he wants. That might mess up you’re trade scenairio with them.
Branch
Why would you sign him to a one year deal nd why would he wnt to sign a one year deal. If the Raiders don’t retain him I’m sure he will be looking for a 5 yr contract
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Everybody knows Carr is the chiefs number 2 corner right
Look what happened to Stanford Route he was the raiders number 2 they payed him like a number 1 and the next year they release him.
yeah that really isn't a similar situation
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Carr was a very effective corner in Kansas City
Brandon Flowers is not an easy guy to outperform, one of the better CBs in the league.
And Routt was not a bad corner at all: he wasn’t Nnamdi Asomugha and they overpaid him; with the addition of Carson Palmer, the Raiders couldn’t handle the cap and they cut Routt because he’s a good cornerback, just not an elite cornerback. Plus, the Raiders have some young rookies who they are developing (Van Dyke had 0 ball skills last year, but he could blanket some WRs in coverage).
Steve said it, it’s not similar.
I'm not saying Brandon Carr wouldn't be an immediate upgrade
While he’s one of the better number 2 corners in the league( if not the best ) that’s what he’s been throughout his career a number 2 corner. We would be bringing him in to be THE guy and I think it is similar to Oakland. Routt played very good as the number 2 and struggled this last year while covering the the best receiver on teams. im not saying Carr wouldn’t be able to make transition BUT I’d rather bring in a proven number 1.
better than having D. Hall 'be the guy'
we know that guy can’t do the job, and he’s VASTLY overpaid.
Carr saw more than his share of good receivers in KC, sure Flowers maybe got the most work on them, but Carr has shown an ability to be very good to elite at this position.
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