Daily Slop : Allen: Redskins 'have a game plan' for QB; Is Marques Colston the best fit for the Redskins?
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Colston, although not a burner, offers great height, and good hands, both of which can be a red zone weapon. He’s also a very humble guy, and from everything I’ve read, a very hard worker, and great locker room guy
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Colston is the big physical guy that we need
BUT, like iH8dallas said, I don’t want any part of paying big bucks to a 29 year old.
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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 20, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
I seriously think Stevie Johnson is going to hit the open market...
He and Bowe are my prime choices if we got for a top tier guy
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Bowe and Styles
Should be the only FA “studs” we consider bringing in to be the man.
Notice the emphasis on “studs” because I’m not against bringing others in to be WR 3/4s but these are the only legit #1s I think we should target.
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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 20, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think that is VERY likely...
PFT is reporting the Stanford Routt is ready to sign with a team TODAY, speculating that it will be KC, letting Carr leave and making Bowe the “Franchise”…
Are we liking Carr?
Not sure I’m down with him, but some have talked him over Hall.
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Carr is better for a zone scheme.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 20, 2012 3:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Steve Johnson is already in contract talks with the Bills
so I don’t think they’re going to let him go.
plenty of receivers play well into their 30's, esp. those that don't use speed as the best part of their game
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that's a good point
plus it seems historically Shanahan is a bit deferential to older receivers. Sticking with Rod Smith and Ed McCaffery come to mind. Giving Jerry Rice a shot in his 40s, and the string of veteran WRs he’s brought in here. It seems WR is a position that he likes experience at, and having a refined player at the position (someone who can run crisp routes, study hard, etc.). It’ll be interesting to see who we go with at that position.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
i think you said it
Shanny’s system is so predicated on timing that he likes guys who know how to run routes and get open.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
wasn't Gaffney right at 30...
or just over? Not that he was targeted by Shanny, just making the “over 30” point….
yeah Gaffney was 30 last year
i also find it funny that most people don’t want Colston b/c he’s too old, but want Vincent Jackson who is 6 months older.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
that is why I DON'T think VJax will end up here...
(Tampa Bay possibly). My concern with Colston has more to do with his previous surgeries, health.
I would prefer drafting a WR in 3rd round or lower, since the class is extremely deep…
honestly i think the health thing might be a little overblown
he’s never played in fewer than 11 games in a season and has played in 14 or more games 5 of his 6 years. If anything I think it works in the Skins favor as it help keeps him from getting a mega-deal, or might scare away some other teams.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
he might not be the fastest, but he gets open and catches the ball
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wow ! That rodskins thing just will not die.
And that article makes it sounds like Hogs Haven is Rods blog
It just happens that Denny has his own fan blog devoted to the Redskins
I guess you can’t get to mad at a little national attention
Has he been back here at all?
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Too bad
I don’t think he was a dishonest guy at all. Whatever that whole thing was about, it seems the outcome chased him away from a “place” he enjoyed.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
he'll be back...
i’m sure he just needs the dust to settle, or he will get a new screen name
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Outside of quarterback, adding a playmaking wide receiver arguably stands atop the Redskins needs list. In theory, there should be plenty of explosively talented options available on the free-agent market.
For all those who say WR is not a top need, just think if we somehow end out with the Explosive RG3 in the draft. What the hell is he going to do with guys like Gaffney, Stallworth and Moss? This would be like forcing Usane Bolt to run the 100 meter dash at the olympics wearing Timberlands’.
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While I do think it's a need
I don’t think they desperately need to go out and get a top guy. I’d put WR 3rd in the list behind QB and OL. FA WRs rarely go on to new teams and perform at the same level so I wouldn’t be too upset if they targeted a mid tier FA WR and looked to the draft for others.
I know we don’t have a Steve Smith but Cam did alright last year with next to nothing at receiver.
Who would you target at WR? of them all I would only really be interested in Colston as he seems to be the guy with the best work ethic to go along with the ability.
I know we don’t have a Steve Smith but Cam did alright last year with next to nothing at receiver.
But Cam had Smith, Williams, Stewart, Olsen and Shocky – which is far from next to nothing.
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and the Redskins (likely) have Davis, Cooley, Helu, Hightower, Moss Gaffney and hopefully Hank progressing. While that isn’t great by any means it is serviceable for now and means they can focus the attention on other areas rather than risking big money on a WR.
Id love a true #1 but just don’t trust FA receivers.
Cam also had Jordan Gross and Ryan Kalil
having a decent WR corps (including TE’s there) is doable when you have some time to throw.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And that fine
we could put WR at 3rd, but it’s still a high need. I would rank our top 5 needs at such:
1) QB
2) OL
3) WR
4) MLB
5) S – if Landry departs
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It would be nice if Hank, Paul and Robinson all had major developments during this offseason....
I’m not sure how losing McCardell and adding Ike Hilliard falls into their development. Wide Receiver could take a back seat, but withouth knowing, it would definitely be smart to add a top tier guy to take a little pressure off the youngin’s and at least have something for the defense to concentrate on other than the running game
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This
it would definitely be smart to add a top tier guy to take a little pressure off the youngin’s and at least have something for the defense to concentrate on other than the running game
Now I do believe bringing back Davis will help a bit, but we still need more. I believe(and this will certainly be very unpopular), that we should let Moss, Gaffney and Stallworth go. Currently, they do nothing explosive for our offense, and frankley, I believe Paul and Hankerson can run 12 yards downfield, turn, and catch a ball, and then get tackled – only point is, Hank and Paul may also be able to turn upfield and break some tackles too, which either of the 3 I mentioned can not do.
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I really like Paul...
but I don’t think he’s ready to replace Moss. Moss has a knack for getting open, and I def agree he needs to take a backseat to the young guys, I don’t think he needs to be released, especially with the uncertainty of Hank’s recovery.
Paul posted the Redskins new logo on his twitter a week or two ago….hilarious!!!! I recommend someone go grab it and post it, I cant do it from my phone.
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here's the link...
http://twitter.com/#!/Niles_Paul/status/167846806229745664
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If Paul or Hank can beat out those guys, fine...but not from "potential"
Arguably both Paul and Hank got carried on a squad for a year based on potential. Paul at least run blocked and played teams. Hank had major problems even making the game squad most of the year…and just had a very serious injury (and is a question mark now).
We spent way too long carrying Devin and Malcomb. Paul and Hank need to fight for their spots like anyone else. They are not even 2nd round picks.
I don't think
MLB is that high a need this year. I like Riley there, and, hopefully, London remains entrenched. If so, perhaps we look for his (eventual) replacement later in the draft. But I don’t think that qualifies as a “need”. I would put more O linemen higher, as well as CB.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
I think CB needs to be in there and I'd say before WR
assuming Davis is back, Davis, Gaffney, Moss, with Hank and Cooley coming back from injury is a lot better than Wilson, Hall and Barnes…after that all we have are Westbrooke and Thompson, ouch.
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Westbrook played pretty well in nickle and dime duty
he’s no superstar, but he decent backup material.
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if he's your 5th corner that is great b/c he's a good guy, not a me first player and plays ST's
but he can’t be relied upon for an entire year. And when Hall and barnes are your number 2 and 3 CB, your depth better be ready.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
i think wr has been a position we have had the most luck in with FA
might be ceacause how bad the WR we draft has been. but im not scared to go after a good FA at this point.
This is my concern as well.
I believe that if they go out and get a Bowe type of WR, its a good indication that they are going try and get Griffin.
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The early 90s..
when Taz was the ..it
It was a big fad in the 90s to put cartoon characters with dreadlocks on t-shirts.Taz was one of the more popular ones. I think those Redskin taz shirts was an example of someone trying to cash in on that fad minus the dreads
Briles, on Griffin: "The thing about Robert is he’s a football player. Some of his happiest times are not when he’s done something great himself, but when he’s done something for a teammate. You ask him about our bowl game against Washington this year, and he’ll tell you the play he loved was making a block downfield to spring our ballcarrier. That’s what his new team will realize about him. It’s not about the stats, or the fame. It’s about elevating the team any way he can
For anyone comparing the two, would Jamarcus Russell have done this? This kid could be the best thing to ever, let me repeat, EVER happen to this franchise. I can’t see a single player with the complete package in this draft(at any position).
Leadership – check
Charisma – check
Passion – check
Teammate – check
Superstar – check
Intangibles – check
Talent – check
Humble – check
Can you say Face Of The Franchise – haven’t had one in years
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by Tiller56 on Feb 20, 2012 8:27 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
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by SpartanFS47 on Feb 20, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You own iH8dallas' boner?
Gross dude.
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by ThuGodfather on Feb 20, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
It would be nice to have THAT guy...
I’d buy my RG3 jersey the day they became available if we got him
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that's right....
If we don’t draft a QB, I was planning on getting a new Kerrigan
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My birthday comes at a great time...
I’ll probably stock up in June when the jerseys actually hit the stores
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I'm going to get mine from my jersey guy over-seas
I didn’t get any new ones this year, because I knew we were switching to Nike
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There's a shop here that sells the high quality knock offs for 50....
That’s why I don’t feel so bad getting a new one every season.
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Ha, I want a new Sean Taylor jersey...
I have a home and away #36, home and away 21 and his pro bowl jersey….now i want a nike combat jersey for him
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+10 or +11
Whichever jersey # he’d wear lol
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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 20, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
With HGH testing happening at the combine...
who’s the dummy this year? Every single year, someone shows up to the combine with a little THC in the system and makes them fall. Somone will fail some sort of test for sure, it always happens….what if it was Luck or Griffin! haha that would be amazing
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Why haven't we talked about moving into Minnesota's spot?
St. Louis will not take a QB, we know that, and it will be cheaper. That way, we get RG3 and the Vikings can still in all likelihood get Claiborne, seeing as corner was their big issue last season.
Just a thought.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
That's a very interesting point
I guess my only concern there is if somebody were to sweep the rug out from under us and trade up to take the #2 from STL.
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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I think the assumption is that the number 2 spot is where RGIII will get drafted
Rams don’t need him, and their pick is for sale. While the Vikes pick might be ‘cheaper’ someone could still meet the Rams askign price
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
non-flashy and contrarian FA pickup?
How about getting the blocking TE from Dallas? Could it be like when we stole Bowen (who was a reserve)? Guy is a good blocker and Paulson and Davis have serious issues there and even Cooley has good/bad moments. Also, some possible upside if he has been limited in catches because of Witten. Add to that, his familiarity with playing the division and a little more intel on Dallas.
Only tricky spot would be how that works out with who we have now (Davis, Cooley, Paulson…and I guess Sellers). But both Davis and Cooley have question marks about their availability and Paulson and Sellers are marginal talents. Kind of could fit into the whole Shanny thing of making guys fight it out for a spot, etc. And maybe somehow (not sure) play into some scheme of hding a guy on pup or cutting someone (Paulson) who might still be available if needed later.
I guess there is some other TE (whose name I don’t know) that we picked up at the end of the season when Davis went down. Shows that you have to have contingencies and we are not “set” if guys go down. I don’t know how good that fellow is, but he can compete in camp like the rest of them?
well Paulsen and Sellers really don't have to and probably won't be on the team next year
still not sure I’d sign Bennett, he doesn’t have the greatest work ethic reputation, though I am for bringing in a blocking TE.
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
for all the talk of Flynn to the Dolphins because Philbin
I was just reminded that Mike Sherman, the OC of the Dolphins, was Tannehill’s head coach in college…I read that Sherman had a lot of praise for the dude. Could mean one less team in the race for Griffin, if they feel Tannehill is their guy, which could also mean the asking price to move up might not get as pricey. It doesn’t seem like the Seahawks would trade up from what I’ve been reading, so it may come down to between us and the Browns, and the Browns might be more interested in Richardson. Who knows, maybe we won’t even have to trade up to get Griffin.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
Yes, and it's possible he won't be as dominating at the Combine as expected
Really, a lot of stuff can happen before the draft. Right now there are just too many variables and unknowns to make any solid predictions.
I'm not sure
I haven’t heard one way or the other.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
he should be
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
That article by Trippiedi (only two choices...)
was weird. Often convoluted wording, and he said about 10 things as fact that I had never heard before and seem unlikely (such as that he knew the Skins were in talks with almost all the teams ahead of or just behind them in the draft, and that Griffin had mechanical problems). Interesting, and he could be right, but I have to wonder about his sources, and whether he really is in tune with Shanahan’s thinking. Anyway, he predicted that Manning and Orton would go elsewhere, and Shanahan would opt for Weeden in the second round, keep Rex and Beck, and maybe pick up Jimmy Clausen or an UDFA.
He does have mechanical problems
He has an extra hitch in his arm movement when he goes deep at times. He also has a weird angle when he goes back in his throw. He holds the ball not low but not up high and when he brings it back it is a little off. Jim Zorn would not be happy. He also has happy feet in the pocket. This might be due to the fact that he is thinking about running, i’m not sure, but he does a little tap dance before he sets and throws. With all that said his passing is solid so those things don’t get much mention. However, this idea that Griffin is such “a pure passer” with perfect mechanics is all in people’s mind on HogsHaven.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 20, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Mechanical problems................what is he, a freaking airplane?
have you seen Osweiler? That my friends is mechanical problems.
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Well they are called throwing "mechanics" so the in that context it would be "mechanical"
Of course you knew that, you were just being Tiller
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 20, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
A favor...
One of my best buds is getting married this fall and is in the final voting to win a $10K wedding package. Do you mind helping out with some votes?
You don’t need to register or any BS like that….just scroll down to way bottom and vote for “Lindsey and Matt” …. thanks everyone.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 20, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
OK
But they’re going to need a good stretch run.
yea, they're in trouble
I’m trying to create a script to hack that poll. 1/2 way there.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 20, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Tiller...
But…it takes you 30 secs to click a radio button?
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 20, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
It took me longer than that.
I saw the picture of Ariel and Blake and was wondering where the bodies are hidden. Scary couple.
Well
I had to read about them, compare them to the others on actractiveness, then check out what their plans were. very complicated process
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haha fair enough
I’m looking forward to when Parks does one of these couply things.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Adjust your sarcasm meter please.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 20, 2012 6:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe next you can work on a script to register Parks for something ridiculous
It could be a romantic Longwood tour (aka hayride)
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 20, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
adding Daniels is an interesting move for the Redskins
I can see where he might be really good at that job.
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