Daily Slop: Redskins Media Links Roundup
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McShay: Redskins could move to No. 2 slot
McShay delivered the goods during his conference call. He said Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III is the type of player teams should trade up for – chiefly Cleveland from No. 4 to second and the Redskins from sixth overall to No. 2.
The Redskins Blog | Grossman: Redskins Not That Far Away
Yesterday, Redskins free agent quarterback Rex Grossman talked to Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan on SiriusXM’s ‘Movin’ The Chains,’ to discuss his past and future in Washington.
Could Chris Cooley be a 'cap casualty?' - NFC East Blog - ESPN
Jason La Canfora of NFL.com did a big thing on potential "cap casualties," and it caught my eye because of the photo of Washington Redskins tight end Chris Cooley right there at the top.
Robinson Stays Focused On the Future
Why is being a rookie so difficult in the NFL? Just ask wide receiver Aldrick Robinson Just ask wide receiver Aldrick Robinson.
Florio: Rex’s Future Hinges On Skins Drafting QB " CBS DC
PFT's Mike Florio sees the scenario of Rex Grossman staying a Redskin if they draft a rookie QB.
Albert says bad year wasn't his fault - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins
After getting traded from the Redskins to the Patriots last summer, Albert Haynesworth had a tough year. He had just two tackles in six games in New England. They unceremoniously dumped him in midseason and the Bucs claimed him. Albert was slightly more productive there if you can call 20 tackles in seven games "productive."
Cleveland Browns must outbid Washington Redskins to trade up for pick to draft Robert Griffin III, says ESPN's Todd McShay | cleveland.com
McShay says if he were the Browns, he wouldn't hesitate to send the No. 4 and No. 22 overall picks to the St. Louis Rams for the No. 2 pick and use it to select Griffin.
The Redskins Blog | Darrell Green’s Son Prepares For NFL Draft
The next generation of Greens are ready to take to the NFL gridiron, as Darrell’s son Jared is on his own path to the pros.
Rex Grossman’s ‘dream scenario’ involves the Redskins - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post
Last year’s starter wants to come back to Washington and ‘play consistently’ in 2012.
Clinton Portis considers comeback, interviews Mike Tyson - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post
Former fan favorite says the Redskins broke his heart, and talks to Mike Tyson about UFC.
Shanahan's pedigree, larger market could tempt Manning - Washington Times
Imagine this: Peyton Manning coming out of the tunnel at FedEx Field this September, poised to lead Mike Shanahan’s Washington Redskins to glory while solidifying both his and the coach’s Hall of Fame legacies.
Leading Questions: NFC East - NFC East Blog - ESPN
With the offseason in full swing, let’s take a look at one major question facing each NFC East team as they begin preparations for the 2012 season
Ranking the 2012 Free Agents: Inside Linebackers | ProFootballFocus.com
While not all of the players scheduled to become unrestricted free agents will hit the open market, this is still a great crop to choose from. There’s a strong mix of young guys entering the prime of their careers and productive veterans, who should come a bit cheaper
ESPN exec’s tip for Jon Gruden: Recognize when not to speak | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports
ESPN's executive vice president of programming wants Jon Gruden to be more judicious with his words on "Monday Night Football." Presumably, this means he'd like the former coach to stop talking over plays, replays and Mike Tirico.
NFL concussions: Increase in touchbacks led to significant decrease in NFL concussions on kickoffs - Chicago Tribune
The NFL succeeded in its goal of reducing head injuries by moving kickoffs up to the 35-yard line last season as there were 50 percent fewer concussions on those plays. Hunt Batjer delivered the
Ranking the 2012 Free Agents: Wide Receivers | ProFootballFocus.com
Gordon McGuinness tallies the value of the top 10 Free Agent wide receivers for 2012 for PFF.
NFL.com Blogs " Blog Archive Mayock on some tough first-round calls for NFL teams "
NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock was the man of the hour during a conference call with media from throughout the United States on Wednesday. Scribes from every corner of the league wanted to know what their hometown team should with its first-round pick
Mayock's grief with Reiff's top 10 projected value
Projecting Iowa offensive tackle Riley Reiff to the Redskins with the sixth overall pick has become a more common call recently as NFL mock draft mavens sort out their boards versus team needs.
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Any doubts Jason La Canfora talks out his ass most of time when it comes to the Redskins, and my guess other teams as well…
Cooley a cap casulaty—Very doubtful! as the writer clearly explains
It’s a situation worth watching, and anything’s possible. But my guess is Cooley comes back to Washington in 2012, even if it’s at a lower salary than the one he’s currently scheduled to make.
What?
Jenkins? And:
The Redskins are making a run at WR Santonio Holmes, OL Marshal Yanda and DL Cullen Jenkins, league sources say, and retain interest in their own free-agent WR, Santana Moss.
Washington is prepared to spend big to supplement its roster, sources say, and Giants DT Barry Cofield also is a target.
So the Redskins kept Moss and signed Cofield, yeah he nailed 2011…or did I miss the others being signed and the Redskins spending big time
And on Haynesworth?
I dare say Haynesworth toes the line in New England and Belichick smartly finds nickel packages and matchups for him to be useful.OOPS that didn’t happen either, he can report what happens but any speculation on his point is typically invalid or down right wrong…
by dr WNC on Feb 17, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Finally, someone making some sense about Riley Reiff - and guess who it is................Everyone's favorite Mike Mayock
"When you start looking at the top ends of this draft, from a talent perspective I don’t think Riley Reiff should be a top 10 pick, but I think he might be when it’s all said and done," Mayock said during a Wednesday conference call with the national media.
Funny, some on HH consider this guy the only one they listen to for info on prospects. Well, listen to him on this one.
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That is the only true disappointment possible with the #6 pick.
Anything else is feasible, but Reiff? That’s a terrible idea.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 17, 2012 8:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why do you think its a terrible idea?
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Players with a much greater impact will be available at 6.
Plus, you could trade back. Reiff is a mid 1st round pick. #6 is a reach.
Jeff…. I’m probably just as knowledgeable as you. Relax
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 17, 2012 2:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
I'm relaxed. I don't know anything about lineman. Just like everybody else on here.
Nobody here(that i know of) has access to game film so i am not sure where all of the “expert” commenters are getting their info about these lineman. Its not like the camera is focused on the line so how is it that everyone is so certain Reiff, or any other lineman for that matter, is a #5 pick vs a #15 pick. Seems to me to really be able to scout a lineman you would have to watch them on nearly every play to determine footwork, hand placement, strength, speed and all the variables that go into making a lineman good or not.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Mine is not an expert evaluation.
He’s a left tackle. We have one. So he would play right. IMO in the top 10 you draft an impact player. RT its not an impact position.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 17, 2012 9:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Really? So there wasn't an "impact" when Jammal Brown gave up sack after sack?
I’m pretty sure the entire line is full of “impact players”. The reason people say you don’t draft non LT that high is because of the old salary structure. You didn’t pay the rest of the line the kind of money that top 10 picks used to command. Those days are over now but everyone is still stuck in the old CBA mentality. I would probably take every position with the #6 pick, if i truly believed they were elite, except kicker. Hell i would even take Vinateri with #6 pick(assuming you knew they were that good). If we had a top 3 kicker last year we would probably have made the playoffs or at least been contending at the end for the wildcard.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Follow me please.
The reason people say you don’t draft non LT that high is because of the old salary structure.
Good thing I’m not “people.” I say it not because of any money, but because of value for the pick. Claiborne and Blackmon are two possibles at #6 that would be significantly more valuable. Then…trading down present great value as well as the next order of business. Taking Reiff? That’s a distant option IMO. And since it is MY OPINION, I feel it would be a terrible pick at #6. That is a terrible idea IN MY OPINION.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
Let me help you guys
Reiff is a good prospect, not a great one. He’s way overvalued at #6, and he remains way overvalued in this draft because there is but one elite OT, and that is Kalil. There are many teams out there in need of a starting LT, so with Kalil gone early, Reiff would be the next choice – the ole supply vs demand.
For the Redskins, he’s not a good fit. He is a LT prospect, and we have a LT. People are saying we could move TW to the right side, but that is just stupid, and very unfair to TW. For one, TW has much better feet than Reiff, and is much more adapt at handling the spped rush on the outside. IMO, TW has everything you look for in a ZBS LT, and there is no reason to move the kid; especially for a rookie with less overall talent for the position.
This is why I, and many others, say Reiff is not a good pick for us at #6
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Tiller
You aren’t helping me out as i have never said take or don’t take Reiff because i don’t know anything about lineman. All i am saying is if you NEED a RT and a RT is available who is elite you take him. This is a general statement it has nothing to do with the Skins or Reiff.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
You are the one having trouble following.
I never said take Reiff over Blackmon or Claiborne. You said
MO in the top 10 you draft an impact player. RT its not an impact position.
I was simply pointing out that RT is an impact position. If you think he is elite. Like i’ve said on numbers occasions i know nothing about lineman. I am not commenting on Reiff as a prospect nor am i suggesting we take him over anybody. I am simply stating if you need a RT and there is a RT on the board who is the best available you take him. You don’t seem to understand that i am only speaking about what you said about RT being an impact position and not taking a RT in the top 10.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Go through draft history (I did it last year)
It has never happened in the top 10, and it never will. You draft a franchise game changer that high or a LT to protect your most valuable asset. If there is a RT that was drafted that high, he was drafted to be a LT. So…as I have done already, look throughout draft history for yourself. It has and will NEVER happen.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 18, 2012 11:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
what does that have to do with anything that i said.
again, you are having a hard time understanding what i am saying. I said IF you need a RT and IF a RT who is elite is available you take him. I never said RTs have been drafted in the top 10. I never said we should draft Reiff. I never said RT was more important than LT. When debating someone it is easier to just stick to the point instead of constantly introducing more and more information that has little to do with the original argument.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Point is...
That position, even if you have need, even if the talent is available, does not get drafted that high. Do you honestly believe that no team picking in the top 10 had never had a supreme need at right tackle? If you are picking that high you have so many other needs than RT, which is why it has never happened.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Feb 18, 2012 12:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
'Really? So there wasn't an "impact" when Jammal Brown gave up sack after sack?'
Jeff Bernard,
Is there any chance you are about the same height and build as The Danny?
The movie “Dave” has given me an idea…
by Belly Kilmer on Feb 18, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe. But drafting BPA every year is how you get to where we are.
Lots of first rounders devoted to defense (which has been good for most of a decade)
few first rounders on offense (which has been bad for a decade)
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
This also from Mayock:
While right tackle projects to be the Redskins top need along the offensive line, Mayock says the interior options collectively are among the best classes in the draft.
Stanford guard David DeCastro is a mid-round first round pick in Mayock’s estimation and thus would be out the mix for the Redskins barring a trade down. Two linemen out of Wisconsin – center Peter Konz and guard Kevin Zeitler – could be available with the Redskins early second round selection. Other viable big bodies like Georgia’s Ben Jones could exist a round later.
"Depending on how it plays out, I think there is a lot of flexibility within that interior offensive lineman draft. I think for the first three rounds, you can get a lot of quality at the center or either guard.
For the “draft Linemen” crowd, Reiff is a LT prospect(which we dod not need), and #6 is way to high for a guy who should be around pick 15-20.
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This also from Mayock
“He’s got everything you want," Mayock said in a pre-combine conference call on Wednesday. "He’s got size, he’s got arm strength, really good athlete. All you have to do is look at his tape as a wide receiver two years ago. He’s a big, fast kid with a really good arm."
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
It has to do with you using Mayock's words as some sort of definitive proof.
So i assume you agree that Tannehill has “everything you want” and that Reggie Bush was a once in a lifetime player, and McCoy was better than Suh. Or are you just picking and choosing Mayock’s words that fit your narrative?
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You do realize that this was in an article HTTR posted in this "slop" right?
That’s why I posted a response to it. It was not about Tannehill.
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It has nothing to do with Tannehill. It has to do with you using Mayock as if he is the Oracle at Delphi
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your just wrong
I don’t view Mayock like that at all……………..some others on here do though.
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Funny, some on HH consider this guy the only one they listen to for info on prospects.
I guess you missed this
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I did, and when you above comment came up i scrolled up and saw it.
You were actually using his words against others who use his word. I apologize. Can we hug?
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
not in the article i got that quote from
He said he would be a mid first rounder. I didn’t check the date.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
He recently said
that Tann should be a 2nd round guy, but could go in the 1st because of supply vs demand.
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IE Ponder and other QBs who move up in the draft
As stated, only only two QBs going in the first round is not going to happen
by dr WNC on Feb 17, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When you have nearly $50 mil in cap room, is their really a need for a cap "casualty"?
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we're going to burn up a lot of that cap space signing Bowe and Carr!
OK, let me have my dream for a while…
Plus Grubbs and Meyers
gotta help the OL out a little too
every team uses FA, wake up it's 2012
signing maybe 4 guys is hardly a dream team. Nice failure on your part though.
not all usage of free agency is equal
there are many, many FA strategies
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
no really captain obvious?
If Shanahan hadn’t been signing FA OL as I’ve suggested we’d really be hurting so why is signing real quality players a worse idea than signing journeyman like Litch or injured players like Brown? Tell me how that was a better strategy?
if you can't see why some people wouldn't want to sign 4 of the best free agents on the market, you haven't been watching the Redskins for the past 10 years
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Thanks Vinny
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as if you haven't proposed sign FAs
Piss poor comment Parks.
by aFan4Life on Feb 17, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Big name, expensive, overrated wide receivers? I haven't proposed that at all.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bowe is not over rated
He’s done great work while working with crappy QBs. At best Cassel is average yet Bowe led the league in receptions so how is that overrated?
Will he be expensive? Probably but he’s also a known quantity unlike drafting a rookie when drafting is just a shot in the dark.
I’d much rather sign Bowe than draft a WR with the #6 pick.
by aFan4Life on Feb 17, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I dont' know much about Bowe because i've seen about 1 KC game in my life but...
I do know the history of big name FA wideouts is not very good. TO and Moss(1 season with the greatest QB of all time) are the only two that come to mind right now.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
and they sign Bowe?
rumor is that they will franchise Bowe.
not an immediate need...
but put it this way, if you could get someone younger and better for a lower salary cap hit, wouldn’t it be worth taking a look?
I believe Steve has stated before...
$600,000 (or something close to that), whereas we could save $6 mil by cutting him. So, with a structured contract for Carr, we might get the cap hit to be lower than the 6…
Can you ever really have "too much" cap room when our roster is this crappy?
Well, on the offense at least…
No I agree and Cooley is certainly a candidate for restructuring, but a cap casualty...? come on
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No, I agree, Cooley stays.
He’s even said as much with Lavar and Dukes. Apparently, he and Shanahan have already talked and it was made clear they had no intention of moving Cooley.
Well that's nice, but he has essentially no trade value
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I asked Cooley if the Skins were going to restructure him this past fall. He laughed and said ‘No way.’ I’m only costing the team $4mil a year.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 17, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I dont want to imagine Peyton Manning walking onto FedEx Field.
I want nothing to do with that eventual circus…
This is a great post by Tandler....
Peyton Hillis is the key to RG3 to the Redskins…makes a ton of sense.
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That Madden Curse is the real deal man...
I’m not a superstitious person by nature, but he has a great season, then Madden Cover, and the plop. If Richardson really is the next Adrian then I could see them swinging that direction. In which case we could be in a prime spot for number 2.
Drew Brees was pretty good after his post-Madden cover year
I mean, they lost to the seahawks in the first round, but it was still a decent year.
But he was hurt w/ nagging injurt most of the year
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True, but not the devastating injury or step back that everyone seems to thing Madden players have
I think everything is coincidental
I wonder if these madden cover players ever mention things like...
waking up the day after madden releases to a voice whispering “Boom….tough actin’ tenactin’” ??
by Jpage0024 on Feb 17, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting that the Browns are having internal debates about Richardson/Hillis
If I were them I’d take Richardson and let Hillis walk. Richardson could be a game changer for them, and I still wonder how well Griffin would fit in a more traditional west coast offense like they run in Cleveland.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
Colt McCoy is back to 100% as well.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 17, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
So he's now at the same level as Chad Pennington?
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by Tiller56 on Feb 17, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really feel the Browns will bring in veteran competition at the QB position
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
I also agree.
I still think some agree that McCoy needs weapons and a chance. Though I don’t follow the Browns too heavily. Will this FA and draft though haha
haha I know right, I'm going to be focused on a few teams come March 13th
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
that's a good idea, gonna start doing that as well
plus its a source to get the info on the “insider” gossip for each team
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
They are the same as us.
1/2 want to trade up, the other 1/2 want to trade down.
They are nothing like us...
read the conversation on most of those other sites…
Hogshaven seriously has some of the most educated fans on all of SB Nation
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
He is the problem. If you guys think RG3 is god's gift to quarterbacking...
Then why the hell would the Browns be content with Colt Frickin’ McCoy? If the Skins had McCoy and were drafting 4th would you say “he just needs some weapons and a chance”?
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Possibly, but we arent in that situation.
Our current starter has tapped out at the highest level he is ever going to reach.
I don't think Hillis wants to be there, so they may be wasting their time
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and I wonder how much his teammate want him back as well
considering the internal player meetings they had during the year
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
about his attitude/contract squabble throughout the year
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Browns-players-had-intervention-with-Hillis.html
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
Luckily, the Steelers and Ravens are old teams
They will have to rebuild right as the Browns are hitting their stride.
Gonna be nice when they have to rebuild and
then I can go into a Walmart and the whole jersey section is burgundy and gold rather than Purple and black and yellow.
Is Richardson worth the 4th pick though?
I like him, but now a days, is any RB worth going that high?
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If he really is the second coming of Peterson
then I would say yes. Sure you can draft a RB in the lower rounds that can get you a 1,000 yards for a few years, but when it comes to a RB like Peterson who can just dominate a game even with 8 men in the box, I’d say draft him that high. But again, he’d have to be an elite talent.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
He has great power and vision
balance too, but I’d expect him to be a low 4.5 guy, where Peterson was a 4.38 guy.
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ahhh, yea, I mean I don't know much about Richardson
but the few games I saw him play in college, I liked what I saw…he’s got the beast mode mentality. I think he’d fit the culture of Cleveland too with his running style (although that’s not a reason to draft a player I guess)
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
When you have 2 first round picks…I’d pull the trigger on him.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 17, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
that's a good point as well, didn't think of that
gives them more latitude in their draft strategy
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
I've read that the Browns really like Matt Barkley.
I wonder if they might try and trade their second first rounder for another first and additional picks next year in an effort to move up and acquire him… Though, God knows they won’t have to move up much to make it to #1 overall.
Based on what I read I think thats a possibility.
Their fan-base seems to be split much like our on the topic of trading up for RG3, much like us here. Some want to replace McCoy and some want to look into FA. I think Hillis def weighs heavily on their thinking this year. And unless I’m mistaken, if they pursue towards Richardson, the demand for RG3 drops and maybe the price (which is probably over inflated currently anyways) and then our only competition is Miami, barring any surprises from other QB hungry teams.
When you have 2 first round picks…I’d pull the trigger on him.
You thinking WR with that 2nd pick Kev?……….maybe Floyd(if he drops a little), or Jeffery/Wright?
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I can see that. That would immediately improve their team.
Who knows if it happens. I wish I could be a fly on the wall in those Brown meetings. Whatever they do really dictates our draft, unfortunately.
I haven’t heard good things about Floyd, so yea, I’m thinking CLE will pick him.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 17, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'll say it for the 3,694th time.
we’re trading up for RG3. Reiff? That’s absurd. Claiborne? Retarded.
We’re going QB.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 17, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully you don't also agree that drafting the #1 corner in the draft at #6 is "retarded"
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Nobody likes me but nobody respects your opinion. I'm happy with what i got. Are you?
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm a dude. On a message board. Who has a picture of myself playing harmonica.
I don’t expect you to “respect” my football opinion.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
One room's not enough for you iH8.
Go get some rooms.
I'm in a good mood today because the snow is coming so lets bury the hatchet.
Redskins fans should only fight about whether Tony Romo is terrible or the worst.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Sunday snow storm. Might get 10 inches here in lovely Charlottesville.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I agree -Hugs-
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 17, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A friend and I were joking about RG3...
the other day and our rational behind drafting him is that if for some reason we draft him as a QB and he fails, then just teach him to catch and let him fill a WR spot haha. Dude is fast.
Isn't that more of a reason to draft Tennehill instead?
Fall back later in the first, acquire more picks, and draft Tannehill as your QB with the knowledge that he could be moved to WR is he is a bust?
I know he's young and will heal..
But I just keep replaying the Joe Theisman leg snap in my head. Also I think Tannehill will need more time behind a starter to learn the ropes. Not being able to evaluate him at the combine annoys me. And I think over all its time that this team got behind a good young draft prospect that can carry this team possibly for 10 years.
You'll find out next week
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Is he going to run the 40? I wouldn't think so.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
he is projected top 5, running the 40 seems like it can only hurt him
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think it would hurt him.
4.4, 4.5 is fast for a QB. Really fast.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
B/c straightline speed is something you usually look for in a QB, hence Woodrow Dantzler's high draft status
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
it would hurt him if he ran a bad time. If he ran a 4.1 he still wouldn't go #1 so the risk/reward ratio isn't compelling enough to run
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I don't understand how it would hurt him. If he runs a 4.6 is he really dropping in the draft?
It’s pretty irrelevant in my opinion
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
you are missing the point. how does it help him. what are the benefits?
He is going top 5, running the 40 cannot raise his draft status. It can only hurt him, although you are correct it cannot hurt him that much. But there is zero benefit to him running.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not missing the point, as I said its pretty irrelevant
It can’t help him and can’t hurt him, in my opinion.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Right, so why would he run?
Pretty sure the chances of injury are greater running the 40 than not running the 40. There is ZERO benefit to him running.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I want him to run, just so I can see his hair flow in the wind.
Like a chocolate knight in shorts, coming to save the Redskins (in slow motion.)
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Well that depends on what he'll be doing instead of running the 40.
Pretty sure the chances of injury are greater running the 40 than not running the 40.
He could be spear fishing in the Caribbean
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Racist
Sorry i don’t have the sarcasm font on my computer
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
RG3's projected time is 4.52
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know how accurate projected times are but if that is close to accurate then can we please retire the Vick comparisons
Vick allegedly has run between 4.2 and 4.35.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Vick didn't run at the combine, but Quincy Carter ran a 4.55, maybe RG3 is the next Quincy Carter!
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Vick didn't run for the same reason RG3 won't run.
He was clocked at 4.33 at VT and allegedly ran a 4.2? at a rookie mini camp
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
that is what they say
That is Darrell Green, Deion and Bo Jackson speed.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
on a side note Bo Jackson is the greatest running back every to live.
I am actually old enough to have watched him play and the man was a freak of nature. Look at the size of Vick, Green and Deion and then look at Bo. Ridiculous.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I love Barry Sanders but Bo was an absolute freak
Check this run at 54 seconds.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
reminds me of the play Vick had against the Vikings where the two guys run into each other
Only a handful of guys in the NFL have made other pro athletes look like scrubs. Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson and Michael Vick.
Probably forgetting someone
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Another guy who was/is simply a better athlete than everyone else:
Julius Peppers early on. He was a joy to watch.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Jim Brown is the GOAT of running backs
most never seen him play but he could dominate in today’s NFL
i disregard Jim Brown because he played in an era when the D line weight 220lbs
He was bigger than nearly everyone on the opposing defense. Not that it is his fault but if he played today he wouldn’t be nearly as dominate. Watch his tape, he just runs over guys. He wouldn’t run over Ngata, Suggs, Suh or any defensive lineman for that matter. Brown was 6’2, 225lbs and ran a 4.5 40. He would be able to play in today’s game but not anywhere near the level that he did.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 17, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Al lot of talk in Arizona about Peyton Manning.
Possible scenario via commenting at DawgsbyNature.com
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2012/2/7/2782390/cleveland-browns-free-agency-talk-qbs
• Peyton goes to AZ.
• Kolb heads to Cleveland (I’ve heard some Browns fans being OK with this acquisition).
• Hillis is dropped for pursuit of Richardson.
• WR prospect with their 22nd 1st round pick.
I could see this happening possibly.
VERY positive article on Russell Wilson
He certainly didn’t look great at the Senior bowl, but his numbers are hard to deny – 33 tds with 4 (FOUR!) ints? Rex did that in 1 game! That kind of dedication to preparation, I would love to have that guy on the Skins. Maybe he isn’t ‘the answer’ but that sounds like a good guy to have at the very least as a backup, if we end up with some other FE QB.
Does anyone else sense history about to repeat itself? We draft Tannehill let’s say 17th (trade back) and draft Wilson with one of our 4th rounders, and much like Ferotte and Shuler, we end up with the lower round guy leading the team for a few years?
Like, long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners love?
Or man crush ‘favorite player’ love. That article made him sound GREAT.
I'm definitely coming around
I’m going to start dismissing any ‘Skins draft that doesn’t have us getting him in the 4th.
YOU WRONG!
You don't draft two QB's in the same draft.
You draft you guy and fill other spots. Maybe you bring in a UDFA, but you don’t draft two guys. Wilson = Brennan = Devlin = not an NFL QB.
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Why not?
Panthers did it in 2010.
Packers did it in 2008.
Countless other examples
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by Parks Smith on Feb 17, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think it depends on the value of the picks
I’d agree that you don’t use two high value picks on QB’s in a single draft but I’m not going to complain about a late round project guy in addition to a higher round selection.
by SkinsOsTerps on Feb 17, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Fair exception.
But not a first and then a 4th or 5th.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 17, 2012 1:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I would have done it to had I drafted Clausen.
Allow my amendment: If a team drafts a QB in the first round.
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by Copious 1 on Feb 17, 2012 1:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
why not when you know you also need a long term backup?
given the ‘quality’ of our current QBs I see no reason not to draft 2 QB this year.
Our only QB is Beck, so if Rex is happy to return as a back-up great
but I don’t see us starting the season with Beck as our 2nd QB ever again.
Also, the Packers had their Franchise guy already on the roster and not a ton of positional needs.
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So wouldn't that be even more reason NOT to do it?
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You can gamble when you have the majority of your needs met and take BPA
Regardless of position. Plus…they keep 3 QB’s I believe, so with Favre on his way out…they needed two and if BPA was a QB, then you take them. This is such a nonsensical idea especially for those arguing not to trade picks because we “desperately” need then. So then you burn two on a QB? Rex is not going anywhere in this league to start, so where is he going to run off to in order to back someone else up? Shanahan keeps two QB’s on the roster so with Beck and Rex, one of those guys will be the #2, why draft a guy with a 4th or 5th round pick just to cut him?
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I’m a monogamous man
RgIII is my plan
so common shanahan bring him home to me
just pick him, so I can get shitfaced
our franchise is soaked and soiled and proud
in the first round
shanahan picked him!
so I bought everyone a round!
(sorry dkm)
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by Al_CaPWNED on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
My first Post:
Hey Guys,
I am on the sight quite a bit but never posted before. So here it goes! First the QB situation, I am leaning toward the boring Kyle Orton! It’s hard to be happy about it but RG3 will be too expensive to move up for, Peyton will go somewhere else and I don’t think the Shanahan is buying Flynn so that leaves Orton. Tannehill and Osweiler are options but I don’t think Shanahan will reach for a QB while I do believe other teams will so I say we miss out on both of those guys too. Another QB I hear about is Russell Wilson. I like Wilson but I can’t picture him as a starter in the NFL. Pop Quiz – 21 career starts 31 TD 18 Ints over 4,800 yards and 81.3 rating. Name the player… Seneca Wallace. That’s who I see Wilson becoming. Really solid Backup but no one wants to start him.
So at #6 we have Blackmon, Claiborne or Reiff. I find it hard to believe Claiborne gets past TB. They have one starting CB ready to retire and the other with one foot in the prison door. I like Blackmon, hardworker and even though he doesn’t have top end speed I think he will be a number one WR in the NFL. Reilly Reiff is a beast too! I know that #6 is awful high for a RT but what if he isn’t our RT what if the combination of injuries and failed piss tests moves Trent over to the rightside. He was a reach at #4 a couple of years ago anyway we all know he was.
What do you guys think? Be gentle it’s my first time!
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