Redskins "Big Name" Trade Targets
by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 10:17 AM EST
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PrintSince Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen have taken the reigns for the Redskins we have been one of the most active teams there has been on trade market. Some have been good, Adam Carriker and Jabar Gaffney come to mind, and some bad, Donovan McNabb. ShanAllen have also been very active in trading within the draft, something I won't be surprised to see again. But outside of the draft, who are some guys the Skins could target this year to improve their 2012 squad? I don't think we have as many trade chips this year, but you never know what kind of junk other teams may want.
Ryan Clady, OT: Community question, would you trade the #6 overall pick for Ryan Clady? I would and I think that would be a steal. I think he'd cost more than that, but why not give John Fox a call. Clady was originally drafted by Shanahan, is 25, and is already a two-time Pro Bowler. This move makes even more sense if Peyton Manning is brought in, rather than a young QB.
Brandon Marshall, WR: I'm not big on headcase, bi-polar wide receivers but will Joe Philbin want to deal with Brandon Marshall's "baggage"? I think if anyone can control Marshall its Shanny. Isn't Marshall the big play guy we're looking for? BMarsh may not garner as much as he used to and we could be able to obtain him for a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Aqib Talib, CB: Simply put, this guy is a moron. But he's a talented moron. Raheem Morris stuck with him in Tampa, so would the Redskins be willing to take a cheap flyer on Talib? Morris could certainly give him more individual attention in DC and help keep him out of trouble.
The question isn't what big names could end up in DC, but what minor moves could help this club like the Carriker and Gaffney deals?
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No Clady?
Whatchu smokin?
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by Ronnie Adkins on Feb 13, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Why not? The Broncos would likely want more than that, actually.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
He is probably worth it to a team whose only real need is OT
To me, we have so many more holes that can be filled. I’m an advocate of trading out of 6 and acquiring more picks… perhaps another 2013 1st rounder.
But its not like you're giving it away, you're gettin an established pro bowler.
It comes with less risk than Kalil, Martin, Reiff, etc.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I agree completely. But I really want us acquire more picks.
and as much as I like Clady, who really is an exceptional talent, I just can’t defend giving up pick(s) when we have so many holes. That is mainly why I’m not in the trade it all for RG3, Luck camp (currently).
Man, I get really lackadaisical when I edit my comments on HH at work. Probably too concerned about people looking over my shoulder...
But I really want us to acquire more picks.
Can only give up the #6 for anything not a QB
if they have already acquired Manning. Got to get a QB over any other position. Period. Exclamation Point!
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Er,mmm, maybe–hell no–oh hell no–you must be out of your tree
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I'd consider the first two, but can't fathom the second two.
Price tag on Clady might be too steep, considering his knee injury.
I'd rather see a trade down from our #6 overall
And target Mike Adams in the middle of the 1st round.
I can't wait for free agency to get here, so it clears some of this up for us.
These posts get more absurd every single day.
Trade the #6 for Clady? Really, when we just drafted a tackle two years ago with the #4 pick? Seems like a wise move.
Samuel and cheap don’t go in the same sentence.
Marshall and Talib would round out the All-Dumbass Team. SWEET!
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Feb 13, 2012 10:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more
"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."
by Ohio Redskins on Feb 13, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Feb 22 should provide some relief
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
spending good resources TWICE on the OL would be SO CRAZY!!
We haven’t done that since, Jon Jansen & Chris Samuels.
Good thing that didn’t work out for us.
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by smutsboy1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You only need one offensive lineman to succeed in the league!
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Well, to be honest
Exactly how well DID it work out for us?
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
we made playoffs 2 of the last 3 times we've done it in 20+ years.
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and Jansen was their for the 3rd time with bookend Andy Heck
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so because we drafted one tackle we are set? esp. since he's not playing well?
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And one puff away from a year ban
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
No on all fronts
It is however nice that the Redskins aren’t in salary cap hell.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 13, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
This is what scares me more than anything
Ever notice how careful you are when you don’t have a lot of money to spend?
Ever notice how careless or extravagant you get when you have too much?
I just have is that feeling that the organization is going to go into
"The Future Is Now" mode again (it is still one year too early)
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by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 13, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Allocating Team resources: What are the choices?
On defense based on last seasons performance including lack of it due to injuries. The defensive backfield was the weakest area of concern due to injuries to safeties (Landry and Atogwe) and due to coverage due to corner backs (Hall and nickle DBs). The front seven could have been better on run defense, but the pass rush was decent on sacks.
On offense a quality QB was missing and the line play was inconsistent. Injuries contributed to the lines inconsistency since a new group had the job frequently. The running game did better towards the end of the season even with more rookies playing.
More depth across the board would help because injuries are inevitable. While more talented starters, especially at RT, LG, and C, there needs to be some balance in the salaries in the OL group (1st round talent at RT is a questionable need but opponents are more and more playing good pass rushers on both sides of their defenses).
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Is there anyway
to change my user name ? I am getting really tired of people thinking that I was the one who wrote that Haslett story. I really dont want to delete my account and create a new one but it’s looking like I have no choice
The Real Rodskin ! Not the one who makes up stories !
Different guy
not rodskins
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Send an e-mail to parks... if anyone knows how, he would
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by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 13, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
In fact
Parks’ old handle was “pas493” – so there definitely is a way to change it.
by preppiejack on Feb 13, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
You have to send an email to SB Nation, I just can't remember what the address is.
It may be in the FAQs somewhere: http://www.sbnation.com/pages/faq
Personnaly I’d embrace your inner Rodskins
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Is it cool if i change my profile name to Park Smith, Editor at Hog Havens – Redskins Blog?
Maybe then i can post about the time i met Daniel Snyder and get to go on the radio with “Lavar and Dukes!!!!”
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 13, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
The only position we have open is assistant to the editor
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Actually, I thought Parks changed his name twice
Everyone remembers ParksRVA, his last one, but wasn’t the one before that something like LongwoodSkinsLoverParks?
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
by BillWard on Feb 13, 2012 4:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
First off it was RVAparks, second off LongwoodSkinsLoverParks was a stalker, I now have a restraining order
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email Ken or Kevin, they can send an email to SBnation and they should fix it for you
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Worst advice ever, let me fix it
email Ken or Kevin, they can send an email to SBnation and they should fix it for you
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
hey ken got mine fixed, granted it took 7 months,and he said he sent the request in via Pony Express, but it got done
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 13, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
And you left out Randy Moss at WR...
You might as well go with all the head cases around the league minus Clady, who I would like to see as a redskin but not for any draft picks…
I would trade for clady
but i wouldnt go higher than our 2nd round pick isnt he coming off a season ending injury?
no thanks to marshall he had a ton of td drops this year
samuel = hall with worse tackling
talib interesting and a real posibility with the ties to bruce allan and coach morris with his off the field issues I would offer more than a 3d or 4th round pick
this is the stupidest thing i've ever read
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Please. Anything involving "trade for Peyton" is 100x dumber.
These were all reasonable questions, even if you disgaree with them.
Funny how folks think these ideas are stupid, but then people want to sign more expensive big name free agents again.
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by smutsboy1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Trade for Peyton is stupid without question
Sign a cut Peyton with an incentive based contract that will cost us nothing if it fails is a great idea.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 13, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
is a great idea.
I don’t think ‘great’ means what you think it means.
Trading for Clady is 100x better than signing peyton manning.
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Hyperbole is 100x better than Peyton AND Clady put together.
"Dominant" is an adjective.
"Dominate" is a verb.
We'll work on "Dominance" once we get the first two figured out.
by Reedskin on Feb 13, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ooh a semantics argument!
Trading for Clady is significantly smarter than signing peyton manning.
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Did Ken actually right this?
I am asking because it is just like one of his pieces that tries to be funny but you’re not really sure if it is trying to be funny or serious. With the exception of Clady this is a collection of the worst possible people we could trade for. Even Clady for the #6 is a terrible idea. The #6 could potentially offer us Claiborne, Blackmon, DeCastro/Martin. I would take those guys with their salary and age over Clady 10x out of 10.
It's really just to promote discussion.
People seem to think every post is “This is what I would do”, a lot of people take it as an open discussion and actually discuss the scenarios.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve put an ‘Option’ out there and people think it’s the one I’m going for.
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by Ronnie Adkins on Feb 13, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yes and that is fine
But these are all terrible scenarios. This isn’t like “discuss who would you take at #6” or “whats more important, Line or QB”. Those are open discussions where each side has a reasonable argument(usually). Anyone who would come on here and seriously advocate trading for any of these guys is obviously insane. Besides, like you said in the piece, we don’t have jack anyone would want.
p.s. I didn’t think you were pushing for any of these trades
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see how anyone could view Clady trade as insane. If the Broncos accepted then I'd bolt out the door running.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Clady is the only player on the list
But it is insane because why the hell would the Broncos trade their 25 year old Pro Bowl Lineman for the #6 pick?
Wait a minute….I see what you are doing. We are now discussing. Damn you.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 13, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
haha, I don't know maybe the 6th pick is enough to sway them.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Clady is coming off of a down year
I remember watching him last year and being appalled by how bad he looked. Perhaps he was injured, but do we really want to trade for another injured tackle? I don’t doubt Clady can bounce back, but it’s too risky to spend our 1st rounder on. We could just go ahead and draft a guy who will be younger and a whole lot cheaper.
by CarverM on Feb 13, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on now, maybe he just wasn't suited for the "Tebow" offense. Its not like it was the most traditional scheme ever
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So he didn't need to pass block?
It’s possible he had a down year due to the scheme but is he really recovered? The last veteran OT we picked up who’d had an injury hasn’t worked out so we need to make sure we don’t do that again.
hmmm. 25 versus 30
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well Denver ran the ball like 70% of the time once Tebow took over
and his pass blocking wasn’t really the issue. It wasn’t his best year pass blocking, but that is not why he struggled.
As for the injury he missed only like 2 snaps all season, and never missed a game in 4 years, far better than Brown who has never started 16 games in a year, much less 4 in a row.
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i'm not denying it was a down year for Clady, but a lot of that is due to the style of the offense
he’s always been more of a finesse type blocker, who excels at pass blocking, the Denver offense was the exact opposite of that. If his medicals checked out i would almost definitely do this trade. He’s started every single game of his NFL career so far (4 years), which as we see from guys like TW and Brown isn’t easy.
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i don't disagree with that
as i’d def. take Reiff there or trade back. I just don’t think Clady is much of a risk, but I’ll take the younger player under control for longer.
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This is the type of post that Parks would usually reply to with a Capt. Picard Gif.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Come on man, give it a rest. I'm not endorsing these it is a discussion.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta be honest, Parks
I appreciate the different discussion topics. Just the thought of adding guys who may or may not be realistic. Plus I’m always interested to hear opinions on Brandon Marshall haha
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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 13, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks man, I'd be interested to hear what other guys may be viable trade targets ala Gaffney/Hightower last year.
I wish had some more “junk” to sell, like Jeremy Jarmon last year.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling that we're going to make some kind of big move.
On the defensive side of the ball. I told my fiance, after we let Joe Webb and the 1 win Vikings beat us, that I just have a feeling we’re going to sign or trade for a big name guy in the offseason.
"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."
by Ohio Redskins on Feb 13, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see it, but who know's.
Lance Briggs seems to be linked to this team every year, including now. But I don’t think he’d be a good fit.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I can’t help but think about David Hawthorne starting alongside Perry Riley if London doesn’t return
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by Ohio Redskins on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yea that would be nice
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
How would you list Beck for sale…. Used QB low mileage never actually won a game and only peed in pants twice.
by future is now on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be interested to hear if anyone has some trade targets that are more along the lines of Carriker or Gaffney.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade for another pass rusher like Carricker (if he leaves) or maybe Balmer is thought to be that guy.
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Depth chart on Redskins.com
Has Balmer as a second behind Bowen. Don’t know how often they update that.
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by Ronnie Adkins on Feb 13, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Kentwan Balmer
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
It's how some people pronounce 'Baltimore'
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by Steve Shoup on Feb 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
hahaha +1
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How about Ryan Harris?
I remember when he was an FA last year that he publicly voiced that he wanted to come to DC, but there were injuries issues. I don’t know what he wants contract-wise, but I can’t imagine anything above 1-2 mil a year after last season. He went on the Broncos before the divisional game after Kuper was injured, and apparently signed a 2 year contract, but could easily be had. Also seems to be a class act, and that his former bronco teammates/fans thought highly of him.
Thoughts?
by itsstevenweinstein on Feb 13, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
i could be wrong but..
Isnt the reason marshall is in miami because him and shanny didnt get along in denver? I also for some reason thought that was one of the big reasons he left denver in the first place?? Please correct me if im wrong…
by skinzaholic56 on Feb 13, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
BMarsh was sent to Miami in 2010. He was still on the squad when McDaniels was there, I believe
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if we could sign Drew Brees for the league minimum?
Maybe we could trade a 5th rounder for Patrick Willis.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
He's a trade candidate?
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
He's a big name.
I moreso just wanted to get his name out there on HH, and I didn’t feel like doing a FanShot.
by preppiejack on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
You really want Randy Moss? Or just trying to gauge opinions?
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Just Guaging Opinion
I’m not too down for a 35 year old receiver who is a year removed from playing. I loved Randy Moss and watching him throughout his career, but I don’t want to pay $ to have him taking snaps that should go to developing a Hankerson or some other young gun.
by preppiejack on Feb 13, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
No, but T.O. Is
What would it take to wrastle him from the Wranglers?
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
So wait, suggesting a trade for Clady inspires all these responses, but then in other posts we get brilliant suggestions like Peyton or Desean Jackson?
Ugh.
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I'd be more inclined
to try an unload guys via a trade then acquire players. Doubt we would have any takers, but would love to trade Cooley, Moss or Gaffney, Brown and Hall.
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I don't think we conduct trades with UFL teams.
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Why the hell would you want to trade our best receiver?
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Moss? or gaffney?
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Gaffney
Moss is old and jumps every time he catches the ball
Why does he jump every damn time? He will catch a ball right in his chest and he still jumps. It is the weirdest thing i’ve ever seen. Well except for Clinton Portis tipping over on every run.
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Gaffney and Moss are both 30+ possession receivers. I don’t think we need both of them on the roster. I would prefer to trade Moss, but given his contract, nobody is going to want him. Gaffney is coming off a big year and has a much more modest contract. We might be able to get a 6th round pick for him.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Jumping can lower the force of impact from a vicious hit
It is a slightly better defense mechanism than just going into the ground, sometimes you can still get yards after the catch. All the small guys do several things to protect themselves.
You can say that Santana Moss always jumps and Wes Welker always goes to ground.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 13, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I don't get trading Gaffney.
I think he’s a tremendous asset to a young QB or a new QB. He’s reliable. Although his stock may be “high”
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by Parks Smith on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I've changed my mind. Trade for Clady right now!
If he’s good on Madden, he must be an excellent fit for us.
Price tag for Clady may be close to what we would pay to trade up for RGIII.
I’ll take RGIII + TW over Clady all day!
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
The only tradable junk that I see
OJ–only one year removed from being a good player, we might be able to fool a team into a trade.
Chris Cooley–I hate having to trade our only consistently productive weapon, but he has not finished the last two seasons. I think he will come back strong this year and I bet we could convince other teams to the same line of thinking. Only problem is we are left with only Davis as a threat.
Willie Davis–as shown some flashes and could develop into a player, only problem here is we need tackles, I don’t think we can afford to let him go.
Trent Williams–yeah, I said it. Basically not going to happen for the same reasons as Willie Davis listed above.
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Do you mean Willie Smith?
Willie Davis–as shown some flashes and could develop into a player, only problem here is we need tackles, I don’t think we can afford to let him go.
Dammit, I keep doing that. Yes, I meant Willie Smith
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by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 13, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Here's what I think...
Would love Clady, but only if we address QB in free agency. Otherwise we need to be all in on RGIII. Other OL’s like Grubbs and Nicks are available without having to give up picks.
I would do Marshall for a 3rd. He’s a great wideout, and the Shanny connection is invaluable. Would give Griffin the key receiver he needs to succeed early on. Marshall, Gaffney, Moss, Hankerson is a potentially dangerous receiving team.
On Samuel, I’d rather go with somebody younger, although I still remember how Shawn Springs stayed with us year after year. Wouldn’t be against it.
No to Talib. Headcase dumbass idiot.
@andrewdefrank
What if talib and his gang bangin momma came as a package deal?
Would you do the trade then? Two for one…
by Bryan Black on Feb 13, 2012 5:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Id be down for all but Samuel
Brandon Marshall for a 3rd or 4th? I dont care if he is a headcase. The man can play. Shannahan already knows how to deal with him. If Morris can control Talib, I would be all for that as well.
I don't know why Denver would go for that deal
If were not willing to take the risk on an OT preferring to go for the established player then why would they go for it?
Id take Marshall for that in a heartbeat but again why would Miami take that deal, he’s definitely worth more than a 3 or 4 even with his past.
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