Daily Slop: Redskins Media Links Roundup
by HTTR4LIFE on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM EST
in Daily Slop
Email
Print
Redskins must choose between Manning, Griffin - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins
There are some out there who say that the Redskins do not have to make a choice between signing Peyton Manning in March and making a deal to move up and draft Robert Griffin III in April. That way, Griffin could learn under one of the greatest quarterbacks ever and take over when Manning rides off into the sunset (hopefully with one or two more Super Bowl rings on his fingers).
David Elfin On Sports: Franchising Davis The Right Move " CBS Washington
Reports yesterday said the Redskins intend to franchise tight end Fred Davis this offseason. Is this the right move considering he was suspended the final four games for a drug violation? David Elfin still thinks so.
The Redskins Blog | Young Repays Support With World Tour
Intensity. Passion. Commitment. These are a few of the qualities that push Redskins fullback Darrel Young to new heights on the football field. Indeed, these are things that every athlete needs in order to make it in pro sports, although every player draws it from a different place.
Will Theismann be right about Redskins QB's again? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins
Joe Theismann was right the last time he dispensed advice on who should have his old job as starting quarterback for the Washington Redskins. Should Mike Shanahan listen to him this time?
LaRon Landry Addresses Achilles’ Rehabilitation For First Time - Redskins Journal
When the Washington Redskins placed strong safety LaRon Landry on injured reserve on Dec. 16 with inflammation in his bothersome left Achilles’ tendon, head coach Mike Shanahan said it was recommended Landry undergo surgery to deal with the problem.
Alexander bemoans Redskins' inconsistency - NFL - CBSSports.com
--Special teams captain Lorenzo Alexander is one of just three Redskins under contract for 2012 -- the others are receiver Santana Moss and safety Reed Doughty -- who played in the December 2007 victory over the eventual 2007 Super Bowl champion New York Giants and both triumphs over the Super Bowl champion Giants this year.
Why signing Kyle Orton would make sense for the Redskins - The Insider - The Washington Post
It definitely would lack the splash of signing Peyton Manning, but the Redskins might be better off going after Kyle Orton.
The Redskins Blog | Phil Daniels Joins ‘School Of The Legends’
Former Redskins defensive lineman Phillip Daniels has only been out of the NFL for a year, but he’s already back to football, lined up in a three-point stance behind the keyboard.
Steelers release McFadden, should the Redskins take a look? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins
The Pittsburgh Steelers have started the process of trimming their salary cap with the release of cornerback Bryant McFadden. The release saves them $2.5 million against the salary cap.
Peyton Manning Skins Roundtable (With Bonus Peyton-Skins Poll!) | Mr. Irrelevant, a D.C. Sports Blog by the Brothers Mottram
Mr. Irrelevant, a D.C. Sports Blog by the Brothers Mottram
Peyton Manning on Mike Shanahan - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post
If I’m going to quote everyone else speculating about a possible marriage between Peyton Manning and Mike Shanahan, might as well quote them talking about each other.
Trending in the NFC East | ProFootballFocus.com
Khaled Elsayed goes over the players in the NFC East who were the most improved, took the biggest step back and who showed they deserve a longer look.
Why The NFC May Go On Another Super Bowl Run | NBC4 Washington
From 1985 to 1997, the NFC ripped off an astounding thirteen straight Super Bowl victories, with six different NFC franchises
Todd Bowles' turn to straighten out Eagles secondary
On paper, coaching the Eagles secondary would seem to be a job full of upside. The team has invested second-round picks in safeties each of the last two years and its top three cornerbacks have combined for eight Pro Bowl appearances.
New York Giants sensation Victor Cruz believes he should be paid more - ESPN New York
Giants receiver Victor Cruz says he eventually hopes to be given a raise for leading the team in receiving with 82 receptions for 1,536 yards and nine touchdowns.
Five NFL theories on Tom Brady, Tim Tebow and Eli and Peyton Manning - The League - The Washington Post
Now that the Super Bowl is over, do you remember the NFL lockout? Me neither. Instead, I’ve been Tebowing about Tom Brady and Eli and Peyton Manning.
NFL.com Blogs " Blog Archive Lombardi: Chargers will try to sign Jackson "
"I’m told by people in San Diego they’re going to do everything in their power to sign him, but this is going to be expensive," NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi told "NFL Total Access" on Thursday. "There are a lot of teams that need an outside, big-play receiver."
Report: Chad Ochocinco will become Chad Johnson once again | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports
It appears as if the NFL's Ochocinco era is over, and it has ended with a whimper. Chad Ochocinco claims that this summer, he will return to legally being known as Chad Johnson.
99 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
really likes landrys interview with gp
I posted this on the last thread but I’m pretty sure comments are done there. So I’ll ask here
How does a team go about firing it’s medical staff? I’ve never heard of moves being made there.
Just seems like when we get a player injured (a bad one) he’s done forever.
Laron Landry injures Achilles heel
staff carries him off
Landry: why we not going to doctor?
Staff: bite this stick
Landry: what you doing
Staff: if you ever want to play again we’ll need to remove your foot
Landry: the f—- I’m supposed to do with no foot. I can’t play like that
Staff: trust us we’ve done this before, with Ronnie Lott
Landry: that was his pinky!
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Yep...here it is...
"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson
Follow @HogsHaven
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Landry is paying for his own treatment…that pretty much says how Redskins feel about this.
"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson
Follow @HogsHaven
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 10, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Landry said he’ll be able to start running & getting in football shape until July or August…how is that gonna work with free agency in March?
"Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." --Homer Simpson
Follow @HogsHaven
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
well if he got the surgery the day after he got hurt this time
He wouldn’t be ready till November.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I always trust an athlete knows their body better than a team trainer of Dr
as an athlete, you body is your life. Landry has to know that any team that is thinking about signing him, if he bacame a FA, would do their due diligence on him medically anyways. I don’t think he’s will to throw Millions away, just at the possibility that this MIGHT work. He’s gotta feel pretty confident this treatment plan WILL work.
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
agreed.
I wonder if all that hgh weakened his tendons? Or if his muscle mass is to much strain on his tendons.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think it's just the normal wear and tear of a DB
they are always planting, and exerting that quick burst going from a backpedal to a full out sprint in seconds.
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
basically that he won't be a Redskin
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
by Steve Shoup on Feb 10, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good question
I wonder if it is like on Madden…when you get to review/hire/fire coaches and trainers? Could it be that simple? It is nothing more than a timed contract?
Now they see why we love our skins so much...HTTR!!!
that's actually what provoked the question.
Just seems like we’re so far behind on times in that dept. probably the worst area to be behind on times too
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This quote by Theismann:
When speaking of the switch to Beck, Theismann said that finding a quality starting quarterback is "the biggest problem that we have had in Washington in the last 27 years, basically since I left."
Not only are the fans of this team able to see this, but now we have former QB’s who are repeating these same words.
Any fan of another team, causual or diehard, can look at the Redskins, and when asked what is/has been the reason why we have been so bad for so long now, can say it’s a lack of a good QB.
And some still want a 1st rd RT…………………………………….
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
I'm not sure I trust much of what Theismann says regarding QB play
He was the one that compared Beck to Brees for godsakes.
Trust or not, the man has eyes
He was able to recognize we had a problem with Rex, and though, just like many of us, why not try another route. He may over-value himself slightly, but he has absolutely hit the nail on the head with this comment. The attrition we have had at the QB position, is greater than any other team in the NFL over this 27 year span.
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
another reason to hate the giants.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think he is making a point that is beyond obvious.
I just rarely trust him with anything he says. That Beck/Brees comparison (which was made during the preseason) really tilted me. His fervent opposition to Peyton Manning is the reason I’m actually coming around to the idea of signing him.
Plus, he always makes the most inadvertently suggestive remarks — like calling Danny Woodhead, Little Danny Woodcock.
When guys like Sonny, and Joe
and Lavar, etc, and know current players are all saying the same thing, shouldn’t someone finally listen?
Your right. What Joe said is beyond obvious, and something needs to be done soon, so even more of the fan base is not lost. The empty seats at FedEx are perplexing. Think about it, from a fans prespective, what the hell do we really have to cheer for………………the defense?
We have no offensive player that stands out; not one. In an offensive driven league, we have no identity. There may be two other team in the NFL, that are in a similar boat, but I’d put our situation at the very bottom. 30 other teams have a reason for excitement, while we sit and ponder our immediate future with thoughts of Peyton freaking Manning, Matt fukin Flynn, Kyle fukin Orton, and Ryan Fukin Tannehill!
Fukin unbelievable!
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
I just don't think we can give up soooo much for a QB this year.
The only one worth getting IMO is Andrew Luck. And I’m not willing, if I’m a GM, to give up everything this draft and next just to acquire him…
Currently, I'm a fan of the idea of getting Manning and drafting Tannehill
To me that makes the most sense. Tannehill has a high ceiling and I think we can get a ton of production out of him if we let him develop for two or three years.
nah just go
Trade back
Floyd
Og
Ot
Cb
Then get bray next year
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 10:41 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
no no no you got me all wrong
Just saying we could get 3 pieces this year and a 1st qb next. No sense in putting someone on the bench for 3 years when we could use starters now.
But I do get what your saying
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 10:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Why? That's how most teams do things. Next man up.
No sense in putting someone on the bench for 3 years when we could use starters now.
by mbedner on Feb 10, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If we have a starter in Peyton Manning, why is that such a bad strategy?
If the Doctors can evaluate him and find that he can and will be at full health, why not take the chance and draft a developmental, high ceiling guy like Tannehill?
by mbedner on Feb 10, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not a bad strategy
If it works thill in second though just to take a qb is dumb. Especially if we’re in the same boat next year.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 11:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
shoulf fuckin be an audible?
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Oh dry up, you freaking drama queen!
;-)
Seriously, I’ve never seen someone so maudlin about something.
by tuckwell on Feb 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
so you wanted Locker last year
but you don’t want Tannehill this year?? How does that make sense
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
by Steve Shoup on Feb 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You still haven't understood the argument
It is not that we don’t want a 1st round QB. It is that we don’t want THIS 1st round QB for THIS amount of draft picks. If we were trading up for Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or John Elway then we would all love to trade up and spend basically whatever it took to get the guy because everyone fully understands that having a great QB is a good thing. RG3 is not Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or John Elway. We can hope and pray that he is or we can day dream about him being Aaron Rodgers + Michael Vick in one body but he’s not. If he falls to #6 then it’s a different discussion but mortgaging the next 6-10 years on one guy who has serious questions is ridiculous.
p.s. Is anyone really swayed one way or the other because Joe Theismann says something?
by Jeff Bernard on Feb 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jeff
I understand it perfectly.
. RG3 is not Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or John Elway
Since no one, including every scout who has ever watched film, can know for sure who a prospect is going to turn out, I’ll take this to be no more than you opinion.
R.I.P JVP 1926-2012
We should draft Keith Price
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I was just joking about the Alamo Bowl
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
RG3 is a good prospect but he's incredibly over-inflated at this juncture.
I’m fine with him at #6 but I’m not fine with trading up. The guys you mentioned Luck, Manning, etc were known commodities and “franchise” type guys before the year they came out. They were elite over a sustained period of time, there was never a question that they would be a top pick.
RG3 on the other hand rose to prominence out of nowhere. He certainly had good years prior to this year, but not elite years. Most experts, pundits, etc had Griffin as a 3rd or 4th round prospect at very best this past summer. So has Griffin really improved that much? OR did everyone just miss on him prior to this year? I think Griffin can be a good QB in this league, but I find it difficult to blindly accept him as elite and 1b in this draft. Too many fans have labeled this guy a sure thing with really not knowing to much about him. Griffin has been the least poked and prodded out of any draft pick in this draft, it’ll be interesting to see if his stock fluctuates after the combine and pro days (I don’t think it will much).
The real question to ponder is, if Griffin was coming out in 2013 then where would he rank among those quarterbacks?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd just take what the draft gives you to be honest.
Hold until 6 take someone like Claiborne, Blackmon, Reiff or if your phone rings then consider trading back. Go with your big board and let the draft come to you, a lot of successful teams take that strategy. If there is a QB you like in the 2nd or 3rd then take him, but don’t force it. Its going to be hard but Shanny needs to conduct this draft as if his butt isn’t on the hot seat, that’s what will benefit this team the most.
The only thing I struggle with is if you follow this strategy do you sign a guy like Orton or stick with Rex. I’d rather this team be good for 10 years then take one hard run at the playoffs next year.
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
That is what worries me.
I’m currently of the mind that says we need to sign Manning, trade back to 14 or 15, acquire an additional 2nd or 3rd, and select Tannehill. There is something about Tannehill I really like.
I don't think Manning is healthy... I just have no faith in him coming here and being the Peyton we know
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, but regarding trading back, I believe there will be a talent there that is hard to pass up.
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
OK? So you force the issure and reach?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
Well said..again
your making to much sense these days…must be a new brand of coffee.
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
*you're and too much
When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you're absolutely sure you can get away with it." -Russell Ziskey
Good point - he has suddenly appeared out of nowhere
Just gotta be a little sceptical. I don’t think Shanahan will fall for any hype though.
its a good thing Quality starting QB's only come from the first round, or the top 6 picks
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
by Steve Shoup on Feb 10, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
But to the above argument it sounds like a 1st round QB is preferred to a 1st round OT
So if we draft Tannehill in the 1st he’s then a 1st round QB, and we’re all set…right?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
yeah apparently that is all it takes
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
by Steve Shoup on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
So everyone has to be cool with Tannehill in the first then, I guess?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
they should
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
by Steve Shoup on Feb 10, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
So if we draft Kellen Moore in the 1st round does that in turn make him more likely to succeed?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
He wouldn’t be drafted in 1st because he has no talent. Despite the many years to the contrary here most front offices know what they are doing so most of the best QB talent gets taken in the 1st round.
That wasn't my question...
Is Tim Tebow a better quarterback b/c the Broncos took him in the 1st? While every other team would have waited A LOT later.
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Teams value the QB position the most like they should since it is by far the most important single position in the sport. Therefore the best talent is reached for and picked over in the 1st round to avoid losing those guys to other teams.
Of course busts happen like they do for any position taken in the draft but compared to any other position it is much more likely that you will have to take a QB in the first round to get a quality talent than other positions.
I'm well aware of that fact, but following this theory if Tannehill is drafted as a 1st rounder...
then those that believe this theory should in turn have no problem with Tannehill.
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I would guess that if Mike took Tannehill in the first round
it would be to ensure that he didn’t lose him. I.e., he’d be gone by round two, and maybe even by later in the first round, like #20. Sometimes, a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. Notice that he would not have to do something like that if he liked Tannehill, Foles and Weeden about equally. Then he could take a chance and wait. Obviously taking a guy early doesn’t change the guy, but we’d have to pay him more, and higher expectations would put more pressure on him. And, of course, the pick would be gone.
made him harder to keep on the bench
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i respect thiesmann, but he basically fireing shots at
Mark Rypien, and Doug Williams …i mean i know they wernt the best, but i dont think you could call them a “qb” problem.
Q-tip
by Sean Qtip Guilliams on Feb 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think any of that could be considered as firing shots at Rypien or Williams
At think he was referencing continuity at the position. He was the starter here for nearly a decade. Williams was the starter for one year, no one else has past three years except Rypien.
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
drafting a QB someday is not an option for Shanahan
Snyder isn’t going to wait forever – Shanahan is going to have to show something in the next year or two or he’ll be gone. All these plans about waiting for years to draft a QB just aren’t realistic unless you’re hoping for a new HC too.
But what are you hoping for as a fan? What's best for this team long term?
It sounds like Shanahan is damned if does and damned if he doesn’t from the fan/media point of view. He needs to tune all that out and think of what’s best for this TEAM not for himself.
People want to have their cake and eat it to. They’ll say this team is a QB away from going to the playoffs and that QB has to be RG3/Manning. From that point of view, if we are that close to competing then why can’t this team still progress to like an 8-8 mark without one of those guys. I don’t share that point of view, but if we are THAT close and Rex is the only reason we won 5 games, then wouldn’t an upgraded stop-gap get us to 8-8 and allow us to continue to build properly with mortgaging future assets?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
As a fan I'm hoping for a return to the glory days of the 1980s
but without consistency at HC it isn’t going to happen. A good QB 3-5 years from now won’t matter if we go back to the revolving door policy at HC. Snyder has never been a patient owner and everyone knows it. To keep Shanahan we need to draft a QB (or 2) this year and we need to win at least 7 games next season. Because of that Grossman is not a real option and Orton is much of an upgrade.
I’ve never said this team is a QB away from going to the playoffs and I’ve never argued for trading massive picks away for a QB. What I’ve said is that we aren’t going to significanly improve with the scrub QBs we’ve had for the last decade (maybe Campbell wasn’t a total scrub but he wasn’t that good either – Sadly he’s the best that’s been on the roster since the regime change).
We have to do something at QB this off season without trading away all of our draft picks. Whether that’s signing a good FA (whoever that is – Peyton or Flynn) or if it’s drafting a rookie or 2 (Foles or Tannehil) then I’m good with that bit whoever it is will have to end up being good or Shanahan will be gone. That’s why I wouldn’t mind seeing them draft 2 rookie – 1 early and one much later (and cut Beck).
Would a slight improvement over Rex get us to 7-8 wins? Maybe but that would be about it.
Nobody wants 8-8
Well, most don’t, anyway.
The one thing I will say...
Is that with the flurry of options/ideas that are floating around as far as the QB position in 2012; it’s clear that most of them are going to be a good upgrade at the position compared to our current situation.
*Manning if healthy and not conflicting with Kyle, will be a great stopgap.
*Orton if consistent can most likely raise our wins by a lesser amount of INTs. A fair stopgap.
*RG3 if proven in the coming months to be the prospect he’s being talked about as, will at least half way through the season have a good chance if we stack our offense in FA with tools and weapons.
*Luck… well, I’m not counting on it.
*Flynn showed promise and could be a worthy FA if its not all a fluke.
Trading down to a young 2nd -3rd round QB is also positive if they are able to learn the system behind a good stopgap FA QB.
Ultimately I think that whichever road the Skins take by the Draft is an improvement over our current situation even if Rex does play the first few games or even up to mid-season 2012.
A lot of "ifs"
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think thats the nature of the game. You just never know.
You can play and research and re-research, but you eventually have to pick a direction and support that direction. There are no guarantees. I see them all as beneficial in their own way. But like mbedner just said… I’m glad I not making it.
I don't know... I'll make the decisions for a couple of years for a couple million
I mean, I can’t make the team any worse, right?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
by Parks Smith on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
What are you talking about? That is one handsome... eh... handsome ma--
Ah, I can’t do it. That picture is like looking into the eyes of a gargoyle…
yep - free agency and the draft are a crap shot
roll the dice and hope you win!
yeah, we need to do something different
and I don’t know the exact answer as I don’t have time to evaluate all of the players. I just know another year of Rex is planning to fail and Shanahan will be closer to being fired.
Yeah, Shanahan can't screw around anymore
If he doesn’t get a top QB, he would absolutely have to win – playoffs at least – or he’d be gone. If he gets a good QB, his job is safe for two years, even if the guy is a bust.
Where is IH8?
Someone needs to counter this blasphemy. Before I was open to BPA or trading back to stockpile picks, but to hell with that. I want RG3. I dont think he is over-hyper or over-valued or whatever. He will be good. I don’t care if we dont have EVERY position on the field locked up. No team does. 2 1st and a 2nd rounder or 2 1sts and 2 2nds is worth it. We can draft some good OL and WR between 3-5 both this year, next year, and FA. I don’t want to sign another fucking mediocre middle aged free agent unless RG3 is sitting behind him learning.
That's fine, but why?
I dont think he is over-hyper or over-valued or whatever. He will be good.
The RG3 community just gives you definitive statements with no explanation. Your boy iH8 is the king of this. Why not tell me why he’s going to be good, why his value isn’t over-inflated. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is a open discussion, so lets discuss for once instead of definitive one liners. Questions are posed but they are never answered.
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
Well lets see
He is accurate. In the pocket, on the move, and on the deep ball. Especially important for the Skins is being accurate on bootlegs and rollouts. Which is why everyone like Tannehill yes?
He’s got a good arm. He can launch down the field with velocity on it. Not a powder puff throw that stays in the air for 1/2 a quarter.
Obviously he is mobile. No need to even say anything here.
Decision making isn’t the best, but that’s something that can be learned.
Everything else is good. He’s got great intangibles like work ethic, leadership, good morals. He’s just plain likeable like Tebow except better.
Just because he comes from a spread offense doesn’t mean he wont be good. It just means he has a little more of a learning curve so he won’t start right away. Other than that there is no reason to say he will be a bust or not even be “GOOD” in the NFL.
I think he will be a pro-bowler in his first three years. Hell, I’d bet on it.
All very valid points, but I'll ask you the same question I asked before:
if Griffin was coming out in 2013 then where would he rank among those quarterbacks?
Editor at Hogs Haven - Redskins Blog
Twitter: @RVAparks Check it out for the latest Redskins news and opinions
Who knows where he would rank ??
Every year at this time next years QB class is so much better. I had this same argument with Steve last year. The QBs who seem like such bright prospects now will be revealed to have warts , weaknesses & flaws just as Landry Jones (who at this point last year was a virtual top five pick) has shown. When Matt Leinart was a Jr. he would have been the top pick in the draft, one year later he goes at ten & busts. Jake Locker is similar, as a Jr. he was a can’t miss prospect but a year later there were a lot of questions & even tho he went top ten he rarely saw the field. My long winded point is that to compare RGIII to next years class is not a fair comparison, the only comparisons we can make are the current & previous classes & IMHO he stacks up pretty well. His comp. percentage of 70% plus his YPA are almost surreal. His mobility is similar to Vick altho he is obviously a much better passer. He is also only a Jr. which is one reason that he did not have the pre-season hype of the other prospects in this class. His intangibles & character are sparkling as is his intelligence. Obviously there are no “sure things” as far as the QB position is concerned but I think that Griffin is very close. I think it’s a moot point tho, I think that the Browns will take him at two.
I think he is better for the skins than
Matt Barkley or Landry Jones purely because of his mobility. I think he’ll stack up against against Tyler Wilson, Aaron Murray, or AJ McCarron. If he did enter the draft overall he’d probably still be 2nd. But with more upside for our type of offense.
I just don’t see a better chance than this year to land someone this perfectly fit for our team. Give him 1/2 a season to a year and he’ll be ready to destroy defenses.
Also, let's not forget.
How he stacks up against the 2013 class may be irrelevant. If we have a decent year it will be even more expensive to move up.
We might be able to trade back for another 1st round pick 2013, but will it be with a team who’s guaranteed to suck next year? Can we guarantee that the one we like won’t be drafted 1st overall. Will we even be able to trade up if other teams ahead of us want the QB we want?
At least with RG3 there is some certainty. Whoever makes the highest offer I think Fisher gives Shanny the opportunity to match it.
If it is just out of the ballpark too expensive, I understand and we have no choice. But until we know I think RG3 is the best decision for this team right now.
I think the supply of first round talent quarterbacks will exceed teams desperate for them
In the first 10 selections or so.
Let’s face reality, it does not matter who we bring in at quarterback this year (and that includes Peyton Manning), we are not going to do much better than seven and nine.
All of the other teams that suck as bad as we do already have drafted or will draft their quarterback this year.
I think teams that are in the top 10 are either going to need a quarterback (us, Miami, Cleveland?, Phoenix) or be willing to trade the pick (St. Louis, Denver, Oakland).
I would hate for Shanahan to be forced into making a bad decision at quarterback because he fears for his job, he either has the trust of Dan Snyder or he doesn’t… and if he doesn’t, we are screwed anyway
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 10, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
does anyone not think San Snyder knows the pack of talent in this qb class aside from luck?
He’s not dumb
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 11:17 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
lack*
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
-Abraham Lincoln
by Howard11 on Feb 10, 2012 11:17 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I disagree
Not only is he dumb, he is also arrogant.
If he wasn’t, he would be a more effective owner… I hope that Bruce Allen can help counter is inadequacy
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Feb 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Your second statement, that "we are not going to do much better than 7-9"
is very debatable. I would bet you that Shanahan and virtually everybody in the Redskins organization (and me), thinks we will do better than that – like 9-7 or better. That is only two games difference, and in the last few years at least three and up to 6 games have been heartbreakers, turning on one bad break, fumble, missed field goal, etc. It is a huge mistake to base any personnel decision on the idea that it’s going to be a bad season, so, “what’s the use?” You should just try to build the best team you can, and hope for the best. And a healthy Manning (with his arm in good shape) would certainly give the Skins a good shot at the playoffs (no guarantees, of course). RG3 might be more problematical for this year, but the out years might be better.
Sure, the projected wins for next season are very debatable
And I agree with the premise of your statement… "build the best team that you can"
I just don’t believe in short-term answers, there is not a quarterback that is a good fit going forward UNLESS Robert Griffin falls to six
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
All Joey T is saying
is there`s not been a real fransice QB in Washington since he retired, most have been drafted short term or past there best veteren QBs & it`s about time we get a francise QB, I hope shanahan & allen get our future QB ASAP.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Hogs Haven
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Alex Smith vs. Cam Newton should be a referendum for Newton’s amazing rookie season
- Things to know about NFL men who served in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam
- How Kyle Orton almost cost the Colts Andrew Luck
- Detroit Lions DT Nick Fairley arrested again; now has more NFL arrests than NFL sacks
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
