College Prospect Preview: Cotton Bowl
There is a BCS worthy showdown set for tonight down in "Jurrah's World" as #8 Kansas State (10-2) takes on #6 Arkansas (10-2). This should be a good one and I wouldn't be surprised if it was high scoring. The best news is that tonight's game is on FOX and "Big Game" Gus Johnson will be on the call, which always adds to the level of excitement to a game. So if you tune in tonight, which NFL prospects should you be on the lookout for?
Arkansas Pro Prospects
Tyler Wilson, QB, 6'3, 220 lbs: Wilson is a junior and has given no inclination that he will declare for the draft, but if he did he would quickly be the third best quarterback available and a first round prospect (keep your fingers crossed). I would even venture to say that some teams would covet Wilson more than Robert Griffin III in certain situations. One reason that Wilson could come out is that he is already 22 and by the time his NFL career started in 2013 he would be 24. This year was the first year as a starter for the Arkansas native after backing up Ryan Mallett in previous years. The junior made Razorback fans forget about Mallett by passing for nearly 3,500 yards, 22 touchdowns, and six interceptions. Simply put, Wilson would be a tremendous pick for the Redskins even at the number six overall slot.
Jarius Wright, WR, 5'10, 180 lbs: The Razorbacks have a pair of wide receivers that are NFL worthy, the first of which is Wright who is a 5th round prospect. Wright is a speedster who had over 1,000 yards and 11 touchdowns this year. He can be out muscled by defensive backs, but the problem is catching him. Wright could very well be the fastest man at the combine.
Joe Adams, 5'11, 190 lbs: The second impressive wide receiver for Arkansas is Joe Adams. Adams is extremely versatile and will go higher than Wright in the draft, my guess would be in the 3rd round. He contributes in the running game, return game (three PR TDs), and has even been mentioned to have the ability to play cornerback in the NFL.
Jake Bequette, DE, 6'4, 265 lbs: Bequette is a high motor guy who will likely go in the 5th or 6th round of the draft. He could be a solid backup OLB for the Redskins, but may not have the speed to do so. He's a very disciplined player and I believe he may be a better fit for the 4-3.
Kansas State Prospect
Tysyn Hartman, FS, 6'2, 206 lbs: Hartman busted on the scene with a solid year. He had over 60 tackles and ten interceptions, earning a reputation as a ball hawk. The biggest downside is that he is a limited athlete and gets exposed in man coverage.
Prediction: Arkansas 35, Kansas State 23
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do you know if tyler wilson put in the paper work to the draft advisory board?
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
Yep he did in early December, said he likely be back at the time
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maybe he has reconsidered since Barkley and Jones have decided to return?
your point about his age is valid as well. If he does leave this year, he wont have as much competition since most of it hs decided to go back to school
Hail to 'Em
by SkinsaneAsylum on Jan 6, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yea the age thing really stood out to me. But he's an Arkansas kid, so it would be a tough decision.
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the more i think about his age, the more i wonder
think about it…hes 22 going on 23 now and would be the 3rd option behind Luck and RG3…most likely a 1st round/early 2nd round pick if he comes out now.
next year he will be going on 24 when the NFL season rolls around and he will be competing with Barkley, Landry Jones, maybe even Logan Thomas from VT and others who emerge…yes he is more seasoned, but his increased age automatically detracts from his draft status and he may fall in QB draft order…
interesting to ponder
Hail to 'Em
by SkinsaneAsylum on Jan 6, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
What? Another QB?
Tell me more! I have my lotion and tissues ready.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Or if your a man of the Rex Cannon variety you can try his go to....
sandpaper and videos of his deep throws on loop
Hail to 'Em
by SkinsaneAsylum on Jan 6, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Parks,
You ready to admit that your stance on the Browns being a QB needy team was wrong?
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Why?
Holmgren had a 70 minute press conference yesterday where he “stay the course” about 20 times and was saying that he think Seneca Wallace may be a better fit for the WCO. He also said he still think McCoy can get the job done. They also said they are going explore options.
Do you have some insider knowledge?
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If he was such a staunch advocate of the kid he would have endorsed him.
To say “we have 3 quarterbacks on the roster I believe in” and that “we don’t know what the future, [draft & free agency], will bring.” That does not sound like a team that is enamored enough with their QB to not draft one or sign Matt Flynn.
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Did you watch it, catch the context? You can twist it around to mean a million different things, it doesn't point to one or the other.
I could easily say he could be saying to challenge his young quarterback to be better.
Why would he come out now and say that they have no interest in quarterbacks and they are sticking with Colt? The Browns would lose ALL leverage in trade situation at that point. Cleveland is the drafts biggest wild card at this point and that comes with benefits, why would they show their hand?
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They don't have to show their "hand"
But having a “hand” in the first place means they can go one way or the other. If he’s “THE GUY” then they can’t go one way or the other, you have said that he IS the guy. What I have been saying to you is that after seeing McCoy play in college and the last two years he definitely does not look like the guy and regardless of what Holgrem says, every one else around the league has seen the product on the field. They are just as much in it as Miami and the Redskins because all of heir QB’s have not played at or near a franchise level this year. Bradford, Ponder = Jury still out and they are not drafting a QB
McCoy = the jury has just returned to the Jury box and the fact that it can go either way means he very well may get the hook. The uncertainty to me confirms that they will be looking at possible replacements or as Holgrem said “competition” for McCoy.
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So you're trying to call me out for being wrong, but yet at admit that it can go either way... awesome
McCoy = the jury has just returned to the Jury box and the fact that it can go either way means he very well may get the hook.
You think they’ll go QB at 4, I don’t. We won’t know until April, there is no need to be pointing at me and telling me I’m definitively wrong b/c of a press conference on January 5.
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I don't think a QB at #4 can be ruled out because I do not think McCoy is THE GUY
Every time I suggest that Cleveland can be in the QB market you attempt to suggest that they are not.
Yea but McCoy seems to be Holmgren’s guy
Everyone keeps bringing up Cleveland as a QB candidate, I don’t see it. They like McCoy and have a chance to build around him
I believe they could be, but you have refused to accept that as a possibility. Knowing how picks 1-5 will possibly play out and with one top 10 rated QB on the board after Luck, identifying potential trade partners or staying put requires a risk assessment of those who my select a QB. The whole reason the Colts are a question mark is because they can go either way and if they choose to trade out Luck will be gone to another team that needs a QB (Cleveland or Miami, Jacksonville seems to be firmly behind Gabbert), the only other team above us that would be of some risk is Cleveland. I’m not ruling them out as potentially drafting a QB, but your argument suggests that you don’t think they will. If you are the GM and you want to draft RGIII you would not take the RISK and assume that Cleveland will not draft him just because they have Colt McCoy, thus…..they are a QB needy team.
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
So you're allowed to have an opinion that they are in the QB market at #4, but I'm not?
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I think he's saying you're not allowed to have ANY opinions.
What do you think of that?
Oh, wait…….
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You are dude.
But maybe we are saying the same thing.
My “They Are” is based on: If you are the GM and you want to draft RGIII you would not take the RISK and assume that Cleveland will not draft him just because they have Colt McCoy, thus…..they are a QB needy team.
Your "They Aren’t is based on: Gamesmanship and getting someone to offer them a trade because they really like Colt and want to build around him.
Either way you have to assume they are and trade ahead of them or plan for someone other than RGIII after the #4 pick. So the notion that the will take a QB, real or contrived, has to be factored in as a legitimate option. Cleveland holds the gun. If they say I’m going to shoot you in the face, whether they have the heart for it or not, you have to assume they will shoot.
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From a fans view which as credible on organizational happenings as anyones… I personally see them trading their pick to the highest bidder. Even if Griffin’s there, I don’t think his flashy improv style match Holmgren’s past. The Browns lovvvvvvvvee to acquire more picks through trade, as they’ve done a lot in recent years. Obviously, if he’s there and they don’t take him, there may be an organized mass suicide by fans, but they are definitely a wild card. It’s easy to mock a QB to them because of team needs, but no one really can know.
If Wilson is to come out, we all know how QB stock works with the months of anticipation leading up to the draft. People now even are saying Griffin should be the No. 1 pick. I could easily see that changing again and Wilson becoming the coveted #2 guy on boards, ala Mark Sanchezesque.I think Washington’s as much of a wild card at 6 as Cleveland is at 4
the art of senior leadership
saying things that people will twist into what they want to hear. It’s the politics of the NFL.
Exactly. Especially a non-emotional, monotone dude like Holmgren
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it's the stuff that drives me mad
I’d rather but heads with someone endlessly than talk to someone who won’t really committ to anything definitive.
For him as a developing QB, it probably wouldn’t be smart to come out with only one year of starting under his belt, with a couple snaps taken last season as well. As a prospect in the NFL Draft and where he stands, it’d be very smart for him to come out. Even if Landry Jones entered the draft, I’d prefer Wilson to him anyways. With Jones and Barkley returning, what was a class of QBs has become slim pickin’s. I definitely see him being a middle-first-round guy if he were to because of his ceiling, he’d be worth a looksy if you ask me, even in that pocket spread offense, he’s a pretty nimble and mobile guy. He’s a much better prospect than Mallett was coming out.
Why on god's green earth would you prefer Jones over Wilson?
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I'm getting bad at this, thanks h8
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Whoa...that took it too far.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 6, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea just a little
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I think I can safely say the only thing Parks murders is fashion sense.
The only thing I murder is a joke.
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That line is from something
What movie is that from?
by mbedner on Jan 6, 2012 6:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I'm partial to SEC QBs.
The reason I wanted Mallett, aside from how awesome he is, is that he played against the best defenses in the country.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
What if....The Rams take RG3 and trade Bradford?
It could happen.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
That would be a ballsy move for a first year coach. You're right it could happen.
But Bradford/Kalil is a better package than RG3 and the current line
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I think that's where Fisher will go.
Maybe RG3 will remind him of a young McNair?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Or a young Young
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Fisher could have had Collins in '95 draft, he drafte McNair 3rd and Collins went 5th to Carolina
Ki-Jana Carter went first and Michael Westbrook went 4th, ughh…
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yea i see them going LT too
jason smith hasn’t amounted to much and is oft-injured, and then they could swing stafford over to the right side….i especially think they’ll go offensive line (if not trade back) if fischer is hired
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
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But they'd likely still get a #1+ for Bradford.
So they’d get a second (though later) bite of the first round apple, if they were to trade him IN DRAFT, plus another mid round pick or two (possibly a 4th or so, and a 3rd in 2013). It might make sense to do that. Plus the teams that would be most likely trading partners are picking earlyish in the first, too (Washington, Miami, Seattle, Buff, etc.). Would make sense. Of course, if they don’t pull that trade off during the draft, they’d be hurting a bit next season, since the picks would have to be for 2013 or picks+players.
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Good point, but then you're just left with a slightly younger QB and a crappy line.
Kalil will go to more pro bowls then RG3 will.
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my guess is the Rams wouldn't take TW plus our number 6 pick for Bradford (could be the start of a deal but you'd have to offer more)
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Maybe not, by trading Bradford then they would be depreciating his value.
I’d be surprised if a 1st would even be thrown into the deal. Maybe a 2nd plus a player. In negotiations teams will point to Bradford being injury plagues and “regressing” in ’11.
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But hypothetically, if the new coach is in love with Griffin and wants to trade Bradford, the cost to get Bradford would be less than the cost fot Griffin.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
They would have to get Griffin before trading Bradford.
Once they have Griffin, they have showed their hand, and Bradford’s value gets a lot lower.
actually they wouldn't
b/c they have the 2nd pick its not like they can lose out on Griffin. They can trade Bradford the first day of free agency and feel completely confident of getting their guy.
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I agree with what you're saying, but what I'm saying is the minute you put Bradford on the trading block
He’s going to be looked at as damaged goods, the leverage for the trade would swing to the team acquiring Bradford. Shanny liked him a lot in college, so who knows? One thing would be interesting is that they are interviewing a HC candidate who would likely install the 3-4. So then, potentially, the Skins could trade a player plus a 2nd rounder for Bradford. But are you really willing to give up a guy like Orakpo + 2nd rounder for Bradford at that point?
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Orakpo is great, don't get me wrong.
But is his production greater than what a good QB could bring?
Also with the emergenc of Kerrigan, would Rob Jackson or Markus White be that big of a difference?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
AV is a stat some try to give a number to represent the value of a player to a team.
In 2010 both Bradford and Orakpo had the exact same approximate value of 9.
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How'd that work out?
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Two trips to the playoffs and the Redskins 2nd leading rusher.
I’d say pretty well.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
I'd much rather have a shutdown corner.
An 11 time pro bowler, a 3 time all pro, and a guy that’s still playing. O and the Broncos have made the playoffs three times, so I guess they win by your metric.
If we could have worked things out with Bailey then we would have likely had a secondary featuring Bailey, Taylor, Springs for 4 years. The #9 pick in 2009 would have been freed up which could have lead to Aaron Rodger and best RB available (Gore or JJ Arrington), instead of Carlos Rogers and Campbell. OR we may have grabbed a safety at #25 like Nick Collins, Brodney Pool, or Josh Bullocks, and in turn drafted Adrian Peterson instead of Laron Landry the next year.
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Really?
Would those teams that Gibbs coached have been that much different with Champ Bailey? I think not.
Southeast Jerome was awesome.
And I don’t know what the hell that fantasy is you laid out in your second paragraph, but okay.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Yes, you wouldn't have had to waste a Top 10 pick on a CB in '05
Really?
Would those teams that Gibbs coached have been that much different with Champ Bailey? I think not.
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They didn't HAVE to draft a corner.
There is also a chance Gibbs takes Campbell before Rodgers regardless.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
They didn't have to draft a corner? You were comfortable with Springs/Walt Harris?
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So if someone came to you today...
and said
“Hey I’ll give you this running back who will make one pro bowl with you for your cornerback who will be the only Hall of Famer on your team, will make 7 pro bowls with us, play longer, and o give us your 2nd round draft pick”
You would do that?
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If someone came up to me and asked if I wanted a running back,
I’d ask what the hell am I supposed to do with him.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 6, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
or you could have just not made the trade up to 25 that year...and have all the extra picks
don’t forget the 2004 2nd rounder from the Portis deal.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 6, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We got hosed
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as usual
what I don’t get is Shanny was on the winning end on so many of those deals, WTF trade for McNabb???
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Maybe iH8 can justify the deal for you
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Except IH8 got it wrong.
It wasn’t Player for Player….
It was Champ PLUS A PICK for Portis.
We sent a pick to Denver in that trade, too.
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by BillWard on Jan 6, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was a 2nd RD pick that Shanahan used on Tatum Bell.
It was a terrible trade…Shanahan took advantage of Gibbs w/o even buying him dinner.
Also it’s with deep regret that I inform you that the 25th pick used to draft Campbell was acquired via a trade with Shanny as well.
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
Tatum Bell"Hop"
Also it’s with deep regret that I inform you that the 25th pick used to draft Campbell was acquired via a trade with Shanny as well.
The bounty of which he used to trade up to get Jay Cutler the next year. SON OF A…
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and if that wasn't enough:
the 4th rounder (in 06) from the Campbell trade was used to draft Brandon Marshall, and our 3rd rounder in 2007 which we wisely traded in addition to our 4th rounder in 2008 for T.J. Duckett, was used to acquire Ryan Harris.
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SON OF A....
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agree 100%
RBs are much easier to find, especially for Shanny’s system than a shut down CB.
he should be looked at as damaged goods, but I doubt he will
QB’s retain and even add to their value when you wouldn’t expect them to. Jeff George after 4 years of being awful netted the Colts 2 firsts and a 3rd. Rick Mirer, one of the biggest busts all time, was traded along with a 4th for the 11th overall pick. Etc.
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You dropped the "O"?
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haha I had asked Ken awhile ago to fix it
i didn’t even notice it until you said something
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I need to have Ken add a space in mine, then.
Should have been Bill Ward not BillWard.
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Agreed
Bradfords albatross of a contract and performance this year would definitely decrease his value. Essentially the Rams would be “giving up on him” after only two years. No one would dole out a premium pick in that scenario, except the Raiders,
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
He's owed $21 mil over the next two years
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10.5 a year for the next two years roughly.
As opposed to a rookie at what, 5-7 mil?
Redskins @RGIII - 2012
by Copious 1 on Jan 6, 2012 4:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Jones got just above 4 at #6 last year, Von Miller got 21 mil guaranteed
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This trade is all mute...
if / when Jeff Fisher is hired. He is not going to go for a rookie similar to VY (yes, RG3 is better), since it is long understood, Fisher lobbied against drafting VY.
Cleveland @ #4 is our only real concern….
Moot not mute, I made the same mistake all the time until recently haha
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in this case it could be mute as well since you could say there won't be any trade noise
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What if...Wilson is waiting to show out on national TV tonight?
Then he has a great game and says, “I’m rich bitch.”
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
I just noticed, kickoff time isn't in the story.
What time is the game?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 6, 2012 5:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
8PM, sorry about that
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Sweet. I get FOX.
I’ll watch this one and then give my expert analysis.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 6, 2012 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's reruns until next week I think.
I bet in the alternate universe new episodes of Fringe are on everyday.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 6, 2012 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's back on the watch after the O'brien hire
Guaranteed Its not OBrien, and yes, I’m much more concerned with that now
by Tiller56 on Jan 5, 2012 8:03 PM EST
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This game has the longest…………. intro…..ever. I could have read almost all of one of Ken’s posts in this half hour.
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There's always many ways to look at thing
And running our hall of fame coach through the shredder is one I cannot agree with. So all the stupid stats and he said she said, could of should of can be done with every trade, almost every draft pick, no make that every draft pick. So I can agree with h8 in that Portis ran hard behind horrible lines and got us to the playoffs twice. Gibbs II under Snyder and the return of Shanahan under Snyder. Gibbs made good moves got us good players and we were winning. Running back who we didn’t have and Portis was running like Petterson at that time. Here’s to a GREAT dude, Joe Gibbs and let’s hope Mike Shanahan get’s us back to the top.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious.
Horrible Lines? WHAT?
So I can agree with h8 in that Portis ran hard behind horrible lines and got us to the playoffs twice.
The Gibbs 2.0 era lines were the best since the Hogs. Samuels was one of our best tackles EVER, and the combo of him with Dockery was beyond solid. On the other side we had an ALL-PRO right tackle in Jon Jansen and a Pro Bowl caliber guard with Randy Thomas. Rabach was also a very solid center in his prime. To see he ran behind horrible lines was a total farce, the line decayed over time b/c of age and so did Portis, and as a result he only played 13 games his last two years here.
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One more thing
I don’t care or really want any return comment’s, ever. If people give their perspective I might read I might not. I’m just a hard core Redskin fan who throws out a perspective in the wind not expecting or wanting anything but for the Redskins to get better.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious.
Good question
I had to think about it and last night in particular could of been a combination of nobody home a couple livet 18’s down the hatch,(i know not the best but good and affordable,for me) a watching of episode 10 of Band of Brothers"points", and an emotional read after a huh read way up top, led to the above posts.
Now for the Offensive line if I really wanted to break it down I would have to look at numbers and do research. Since I’ve watched every game at least once, Brunell was getting a little older but a proven veteran, look at the Jag’s since he’s left. Samuels was a beast but teams would load the box and he could pretty much handle at least his guy every time. The rest of the line was good to decent at run blocking and average at best at pass blocking, and good to decent is being nice i’m sure we can ask C.P. how big the running lanes were he had to run through. Now Gibbs put together an OK line but I’m going to assume he most defiantly was going to make the line much better, get running back depth, make J.C. serviceable with a promising young guy behind him and a winnable vet just in case. We win TOP with a smashing D good running and a solid team that makes us happy, but then again just theory.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious.
Late to the post, I know
But I’ve been banging the Tyler Wilson drum all season. Truthfully, I never imagined him coming out, after just one year at the helm. But I’ve liked what I’ve seen everytime I’ve watched the kid play. I’d be happy as hell with Wilson at QB.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Adams would be
A hell of a pickup too. He would automatically make Parks forget about Brandon Banks.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
haha i think he makes everyone forget about Banks
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I think Niles Paul would make me forget about Banks...
…and he can play in this offense.
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