Mike Shanahan on Leonard Hankerson: "I think he's got a chance to be the guy"
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 3, 2012 9:33 AM EST
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PrintIt's clear to me that two of the biggest Redskins' needs are Quarterback and Wide Receiver. The OLine and Safety positions are up there as well, but as we've seen the last two years, the Redskins simply don't have any WRs with Yards After the Catch ability. Last week, UKRedskin posted our roundtable and 2012 predictions for Hankerson. We all felt Hank could be that guy, but there's still a leap of faith from what we saw this season. Shanahan spoke with ESPN NFC East columnist, Dan Graziano, about the current WRs corps:
"We've got to get a wide receiver that's a playmaker. You've got to have a No. 1, no question about it. We've got [Santana] Moss, and [Jabar] Gaffney, who's going to be right at 1,000 yards. But you're still looking for a guy that can go the distance and make plays, running on a short shallow cross and go the distance. Everybody's looking for that."
And Hankerson's two obstacles to being the #1 guy...
"I think he's got a chance to be the guy. Health is what we don't know. He's got the hip. But we're hoping he's going to be that guy. You can see in practice where he's a natural. Big. The thing that separates guys at No. 1 is when they can beat bump coverage and they don't have to slow down to beat it. They're able to keep their speed and be able to get by somebody. He's got that."
Ah, that word "hoping." So, Hank has his off-season to do list. He'll be healthy for April OTAs, so at least Shanahan will get a feel early on Hank. WR free agents this year include, Vincent Jackson, Reggie Wayne, Dwayne Bowe, Desean Jackson, Stevie Johnson, Wes Welker, Marques Colston, Robert Meacham, and dozens more. It's safe to say, one of these guys will be brought in. Shanahan got a close look at Bowe and VJax from his coaching days in Denver.
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from reading his article
it seems like he wants a big (probably 6’2" plus), relatively young (26-28), high character receiver…i can’t speak to the character of these guys, cuz i don’t know them, but it would seem dwayne bowe and the pair of saints WRs might be in the mix….although i’m curious if the saints’ WRs are a product of drew brees and that offense, or really game changers in themselves, i’m not sure either are number one receivers per se
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
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neither would be on our team. they are great receivers but neither can beat coverage the way he described. Brandon Marshall was available but we did not go after him.
Bowe is the only one on that list that is consistent and not old. I doubt the Chiefs let him go
There are few receivers in the league that have it all- size, speed, route running, hands, and not injury prone.
Fred Davis is one of them. I am not discounting that life is easier when you have a top 5 receiver in the league, but it is also true when you have a top 5 guy at any position and play aggressively to his strengths. I think we could use our personnel better and that we are limited by having one “system” Banks, Helu, Davis and Hankerson are all playmakers that can go the distance with the people who usually cover them. moss, gaffney, royster and cooley are solid and move the chains. niles paul prob is a playaker too. unfortunately, he did not play our playmakers very much…banks and paul saw almost no time. helu and hankerson did not really play until the season was half over. and of course, our limited line left our QB scrambling around on half our pass attempts. but helu, hankerson, and royster all came in and gave us big games right away…that shouldnt happen…the coaches waited too long to give them a shot- if they did at all
i dont know what they are doing with banks. he clearly can make big plays. and wes welker is only 5’9 and is small too. so its not about size. the best receivers on dallas and the giants were undrafted rookies- both were playmakers for their teams!
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I like the comparison to Welker, however
Banks is 5’7 on a tall day, and 155 pounds soaking wet.
I like Banks. He's still a weapon when used properly (Minnesota, New England games).
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
but he is making plays for us. ok 5’7 is not 5’9 but niles paul is 6’1 and put up over 4000 yards in college, and never got a shot even though we were out of playoff contention for half the season
and victor cruz and laurent robinson went undrafted! and robinson was picked up by the cowboys on Sep 20th!
my bigger point is that we have players that can run routes against press coverage and we have players that can take it to the house in the open field…and they did not see enough action nor was the offense geared towards getting them the ball and see what they could do.
Davis got the biggest opportunity and he was putting up 90 plus yards game in and game out in multiple games we targeted.
shanahan is right. a top receiver in the league makes life easier. but i feel i am right too that they could have done a lot better job putting the ball in the hands of our playmakers…and the first step would be getting them on the field more. ultimately, i think he is saying he will do that. and he might go after vincent and pay up
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
i think he is limited on what he can do on his own. meaning, he cant get open by himself consistently. but the guy can absolutely take it to the house every time he touches the ball. so it is up to the coaches to teach him shifty shake and bake moves like welker employs and design plays specifically to get him the ball in open field.
this is also an example of where a better line can free a guy like banks who needs time to break free of initial contact to get open would help us a lot
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
that points to our blockers not being able to block without getting caught cheating
usually that falls on a guard or center pulling…and we are weak there. and fred davis is not a great blocker but he put in effort at times this season. so if the coaching staff can increase his consistency, we will be better there.
it is still a team game. my point is that guy is dangerous with the ball every time. he got very little play this season on offense. and i really do not understand why paul so no time almost…because he is a lot bigger and pretty fast n shifty too
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
how often is once in a while to you?
his official stat line for the season is one run and one reception. i know he had some called back from penalties
he has shown enough on punt and kick returns this past two seasons to know his speed is dangerous in the open field. i dont know why he did not break as many- certainly the new kickoff rules hurt him. but i have been talking about his role on the offense not special teams. and clearly, two plays all season plus a couple called back from penalties is not enough
he also threw for a td this season on his one pass. maybe he would have better stats he had five passes this season?
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
But also, the hard thing about Banks is that he's one-dimensional
If you put him on the field, teams know there is some sort of trick play or other Tomfoolery going on….he’s not going to run out into a normal route and catch a pass like Wes Welker
A one-dimensional player? Why not have a guy that can do what Banks does and more?
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DeSean Jackson is far more talented as a receiver than Brandon Banks
Maybe if they ran a race they would look similar…but Desean is bigger and a better receiver, and WAY more of a jackass haha
by StephanHart on Jan 3, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But being able to do "more" is usually an indication of how talented you are.
Banks doesn’t make a lot of money and he can be dangerous.
I say keep him.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
When players can do "more", so to speak, that means they are a higher paid player.
If a player can catch 60 passes for 1300 yards and be a big time KR/PR then they will be paid much more than someone like Banks.
That’s why Banks isn’t paid very much, but he’s good at his one job and a few trick plays.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Hell of a way to build a winning football team
You know we have many other players on the team who make small amounts of money like Banks who can actually play Offense and Defense
Banks threw a TD pass and ran for a TD on offense, but it was called back.
So by my count he was involved in three offensive plays this year.
Two went for TDs.
Not bad by my count.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
1 went for a TD, the other was off a penalty, like most all of Bank's big plays
Did you see DJAX rip of that 60 yard TD and torch our secondary on Sunday?
I HATE DeSean, but that’s the kind of playmaking ability we should be wanting.
Was Jared Allen going to catch Brandon Banks?
He’s still one of the fastest guys in the league, he just needs to be used correctly.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
I wonder who was throwing to him?
Was it noodle armed Rexy? You don’t think Brandon Banks can outrun our safeties OJ and Doughty?
Context is everything.
Well if Brandon Banks can do what Desean Jackson does, then our coaching staff has made a horrible mistake in not playing him
But I don’t buy it
I buy it.
Why did it take so long for Helu and Royster to get good looks?
Obviously, on offense, Brandon makes the most of his oppurtunities.
That is on the coaches.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
So what if they were late round picks?
I find it hard to believe that in practice, Torain was in beastmode and Helu and Royster were just plodding along. Thus, Torain got more PT.
They were forced by injury and poor play by Torain into action.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Put it this way, if we cut Banks
No other NFL team will pick him up for a good while, if ever
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can you support your belief in a way that can be proven?
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Dangerous in terms of knife fights?
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i am aware of his potential limitations hence my reservation in banging the table on him.
my point has always been he should have been given more opportunity to see what hes got. we might have that stud receiver?
your points are valid for sure. but it is a lot easier to give them more standing if helu did not come out of no where and ran and received for over 100 yards each, hankerson did not come out of nowhere to catch for 100 yards, royster did not come out of nowhere to run for 100 yards. …and to my point…we dont know what we have bec our possible playmakers are not getting enough play…and i feel we are not good enough to justify keeping them on the bench until they are perfect
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
my point has always been he should have been given more opportunity to see what hes got.
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
not necesarily Banks
but any future WR may not get enough playing time to find out if they are capable of being a stud.
exactly
they are drafting these guys whom they feel can be playmakers…then they are sitting on the bench, forced into action through injury or underperformance of the guy in front of them, then come out with 100 yard games or a score or big plays etc
there is something wrong with that process. dont let the names fool you…its the process
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
and i also said
i dont think he is an full time starter for us at WR like welker. i think he is a special playmaker that you bring in a few times each game and run plays specifically to get him the ball in the open field. but i dont really know where his role ends bec i feel he did not receive enough opportunities over the course of this full season. and i absolutely feel Paul should have had some play too
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I dont agree that Banks is a special player
but I do think that the young guys should have gotten more of a chance to play
then you agree with my point
i feel banks is a special player but not a regular everydown player. …a couple set plays designed for him a game type
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
i dont feel it is a start or bench situation. there are fifty or so offensive plays per game times 16 games.
there is plenty of opportunity to go around and moss and gaffney should be our starters
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
helu, royster, and hankerson were forced into action from injury to the “better” players in front of them and played better than the people they replaced
the other two, banks and niles, received effectively no playing time, but banks did throw for a td on one of his three plays all season. so we dont really know if they are the best players or not, do we?
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm fairly positive Banks is not one our top 6 recievers
by StephanHart on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
receivers…no
playmakers…yes absolutely
this thread started with the quote, ""We’ve got to get a wide receiver that’s a playmaker."
and my contention was he underutilized the playmakers we had on the roster this year
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
He was an overutilized playmaker in my opinion
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but you dont like him if i remember correctly so that is probably expected
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
you should go out with him one night. he gets front of the club parking
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I don't dislike him, I just don't think he's very good at football
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so u admit you want to go clubbing with brandon banks…i will make the call ;-)
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I've wondered why we haven't put Banks in the backfield...
and let him run a wheel route. I can’t picture any LB in the league that could keep up with him running down the sideline.
so it sounds like you're saying....
that Mike Shannahan’s stubbornness is the reason we are losing, and i half-way agree wit you. Though I don’t think Brandon Banks is the WR you make him out to be, you do raise interesting points.
we have a lot of reasons we are losing. coaching is in the mix.
i dont think he is an full time starter for us at WR like welker. i think he is a special playmaker that you bring in a few times each game and run plays specifically to get him the ball in the open field. but i dont really know where his role ends bec i feel he did not receive enough opportunities over the course of this full season. and i absolutely feel Paul should have had some play too
this team is not good enough to sit its rookie draft picks most of the year and head into an off season without seeing them play meaningfully. it hurts us not to know what they can do. look at helu hankerson and royster- if they did not have those opportunities, we would not know they could be pretty solid for us at least in the short term. we do not need to look to replace them with this upcoming draft.
but when a player comes out and blows up with 100 yard games like hankerson, royster, and helu all did…then you know the coach is waiting too long to give players a shot
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and i will also point out that hankerson and royster had their opportunity stem from injury not because the coaches wanted to give them a shot
and helu got a chance because torrain started underperforming
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Somehow you are convincing me
Did you spike my drinks when I wasn’t looking?
what do you think of mario manningham?
we’d also be hurting a division rival if we signed him
i agree fred davis is a good threat, and i think our offense was tailored around him early in the year (when he got suspended we started running more 3 wr 2 rb sets, and i remember kyle in an interview saying they had to adjust because of his absence)…i think that is evidence of using personnel wisely….i do respectively disagree that we waited too long to play some of our rookies (although i agree that helu should have probably been starting earlier), but for royster, paul, and hankerson i think being patient with them was the correct course (especially with hankerson and his hands…his confidence seemed shaken in preseason, but he worked his tail off in practice and earned his way up the roster)
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
manningham gets hurt too often. i would not pursue him for that reason. secondly and a lesser impact is nicks and manning really help manningham’s stats. so i dont think he will have the same impact on our team. i think he would be good not great and i think we could find someone like him in the draft third round or later
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
there are way too many solid WRs on the market this year and in the draft
for Shanhan to be waiting on Hankerson and depending on him to even be a #2…I predict about a brand new set of starting WRs this upcoming year. We all know Shanahan has a fetish for that position.
What does this mean?
I predict about a brand new set of starting WRs this upcoming year.
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Yep
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look Parks Sandusky
how about you stop quoting me…you post nothing but garbage and i refuse to be sucked into your dark twisted fantasy
it means he believes two or three of last years starting wide receivers- moss, gaffney, and stallworth will not be the starting wide receivers next year
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
All I needed, thanks, just didn't understand the quote
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which qbs did you like yesterday. i couldnt see all the games. luck rocked of course. but weeden is a legitimate qb prospect- shame he is 28 but even at that age he could give you 5 or so years of stability
or maybe you have an upcoming post that lays out where you rank the top prospects. it might not be necessary to trade up if the drop off between RG3 and the next tier is not as big as people are saying. interested to hear where you stand on it
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
i'm a fan of weeden
i found it interesting on last sunday’s pregame show that jimmy johnson said that the learning curve for collegiate QBs is not what it used to be, because the passing game in college football has advanced dramatically…college QBs are more versed in reading coverage and understanding routes and progressions, which makes the transition to the nfl easier (he cited dalton and newton this year)….weeden has the physical tools, is mature, and has been in a professional setting before…i think he could come in year one and produce
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
thats an interesting observation
i know people want all pro WR etc. but i really stongly feel the best way to develop a rookie qb is surrounding him with a good line so he is not running around scared all the time and can learn the position…then starting their second year and forward, the line becomes a lower priority and you can grab those playmaking WR, TE, and RB with top draft choices
david carr was a good Qb prospect before houston got their hands on him…and there are many others that got hit and hurt before they reached their potential
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I probably watched Cousins the most closely yesterday.
Kind of already knew what Luck and Weeden were, so I didn’t “key-in” on them as much yesterday. I was a little upset with Cousins, he certainly has the skill set but he was forcing a lot of passes and paid for it several times. Never seen a team back-in to a win like MSU yesterday.
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agree: i was impressed with his physical ability, but no so much his decision making
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*
i agree…i saw some of the MSU game and while he made some plays, he did not stand out to me that he is ready to step in
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Not gonna do it, not prudent at this juncture
A horrible ending to a crappy season that was followed up from another crappy season that followed up 2! crappy seasons where “swinging gate” and the Redskins were the laughingstock of the league.
Selling me hope 2 days! after completing 4 years in the NFC East cellar is not gonna fly! The Skins stink. They are 5-11, worse than last year. “You are what your record says you are.”
Until they prove otherwise it’s just cheering for burgundy and gold (or maroon, black and yellow) laundry. I got other chores to do. My stock in hope is exhausted. I may be in the market come April. maybe.
I pretty much gave up after they hired Haslett
the love is not there anymore…I cheer for em, but i’m not as heart broken when we lose or as joyful when we win…
by BurgundySox on Jan 3, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As a fan I'm not going anywhere, but having a top ten pick every year gets old.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
But it gets us another high profile prospect to flounder!
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Last year was 12
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I stand corrected
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
whether free agent or draft- we are getting a qb and more receivers this off season. he obviously does not like paul, banks, or stallworth, and does not believe moss or gaffney are playmakers.
i just hope he doesnt spend real resources on linemen because then i really will be confused with what he is trying to do
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
very wise words =)
i dont watch a lot of college ball but i have seen four legitimate studs- luck, rg3, kalil, and blackmon that would all significantly help this team. hope there is two more out there to open up all our options this draft
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Too bad all four will be gone by our pick
The Blue Royster Cult needs more cow bell.
by 64ShagginWagon on Jan 3, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Shanny is one cold mother
he could lie to his mother and tell her his father had died without blinking. Do not play poker with Shanny.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 3, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I don't listen to anything he says, or at least believe it.
That’s what is a little frustrating. I would like him to admit that going into the season with Rex and Beck was stupid.
I mean, this guy coached Steve Young and John Elway. Did he really look at Bex and think CHAMPIONSHIP?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
What was the alternative? Sign Vince Young? Hasslebeck? Gabbert?
It wouldn’t have mattered much. It was a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.
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+1 this is something many overlook about this past year
Lockout, limited free agency, mediocre QB draft class.
Who were we supposed to get?
I don't know. It doesn't matter. The season is over.
Rex will be cut and Beck will never play in the NFL again.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Rex is FA, there is not "cutting"
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If he wants to he will
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If Rex wants to come back he will?
What, he just demands to be signed by the Redskins and they do it?
Sure.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
He's the one that turned down a multi-year deal, in favor of a one year deal.
Despite all the hyperbole surrounding Rex he still would be one of the most sought after backups in the NFL. He is going to be the one to decide whether or not he wants to stay and mentor or go elsewhere and chase a ring as a backup.
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Bad choice turning down that deal.
Now he has proven to everyone that he is the worst QB in the universe and I honestly don’t know who, if anyone will sign him.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
You're being extremely unfair.
There will be several teams vying for his services. You don’t think a team like Chicago, Houston, Indy, etc would have loved to have Rex this year.
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He gave the ball to the other team like Kardashian sisters give it away to NBA players.
I think I’m being very fair.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
You don't think he'll have better stats if he's throwing to Andre Johnson
with Ben Tate and Arian Foster in the backfield and the #2 defense?
People will argue Dalton now.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I was crucified here last year, for taking Dalton in that War Room mock.
Even Shane Hallam told me we reached for him at #56 overall.
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In other news, the rest of that mock is embarassing, haha
1.18 (18) Anthony Castonzo, OT – BC
2.24 (56) Andy Dalton, QB – TCU
3.24 (88) Kris O’Dowd, C – USC
3.25 (89) Jerrell Powe, NT – Ole Miss
5.13 (144) Terrance Toliver, WR – LSU
6.12 (177) Ugo Chinasa, LB/DE – Oklahoma State
7.10 (213) Dion Lewis, RB – Pittsburgh
7.21 (224) Anthony Gaitor, CB – Florida International
7.50 (253) Charles Clay, FB – Tulsa
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I was big on Dalton too...
How far back does the achives go? I was trying to review my old mocks that I probably posted as comments on here to see if I’m a Pioli or Cerrato
Oh well, the season is done with.
Let’s hope for a new and improved QB in 2012.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
+1 Agreed. I hate it when people say Shanahan hand picked Rex and Beck
There really was no CLEAR, better alternative last season that was worth throwing the resources into
by Floppy P Key on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
i am not going to beat him up for liking mcnabb over hasselback or not projecting dalton to be successful. he might not be as good evaluating talent or more likely- he has so many other responsibilities he can not put in the same time other teams put into it. he is both the head coach and lead talent evaluator…and it is not rocket science to know those are two more than full time positions these days.
but what i am holding him accountable is how he is setting us up for success. that is 100% in his control. we all know we will get a qb prospect to develop. we have known since day 1 of his tenure. we dont know when, but we know he is coming. his development has the largest impact on the organization. if you give the guy a couple of years to develop and he fails, you set the team back multiple years hoping to get it right the next time.
once you get the qb in place, filling in the pieces is a lot easier with good drafts and free agent signings. i think they could do a better job thinking through and putting the pieces in place to better develop that young franchise qb we know we need and will be getting
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Kev, this is very refreshing to hear you say
It’s clear to me that two of the biggest Redskins’ needs are Quarterback and Wide Receiver
From a site moderator, and a person who has close ties to the team, I think this rings true. Too bad others can’t see this too(ie. the wee need more linemen crowd, and game-changing WR’s wouldn’t make a difference crowd)
Props to you my man!
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I would add O-linemen in there too, Tiller.
Brown’s not getting the job done, Williams’ not trustworthy and we could upgrade inside. I think it is fair to say that we need a QB badly and a stud WR, but OL is a pretty big need in my mind.
I would say OL is actually a bigger need than WR
But the fact that we are going to grab a WR dictates that we get a stud WR to help him
and you can usually pay up in free agency to grab a stud WR- brandon marshall was the most recent example. and this year, stud WRs went undrafted such as cruz and robinson in just our division. stud OL does not hit the market very often in their prime or without major injury risks and rarely go undrafted
so it is not just about filling needs but what is the best- and sometimes only way to fill them
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Marshall came with a second round draft pick price
Just saying…
but I completely agree with everything else you said
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 3, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
thats right, he was acquired through trade, which i did not mention. i dont recollect a stud lineman being traded very often but it happens more with WR.
The best way to get a really good OL man is through the draft. Other positions, especially skill positions, are more abundant in free agency or trade bec teams pay up more for those positions. Unfortunately, it means your drafts have to skew towards linemen in general for that reason. It has nothing to do with preference and everything to do with common sense: if they are generally only available through the draft, then you generally have to use draft picks to get them
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
sam bradford had stephen jackson and brandon lloyd. and what happened to him…he was pummelled, injured and regressed
…which is exactly why it seems so clear to me that you protect your investment before you get him playmakers.
with no clear franchise qb options available over the past two years, as you pointed out, we absolutely could have done a better job building the foundation to protect our investment. and we should be reaching out for both playmakers and a qb…but we did not…we still need a qb, playmakers, and a line and that is why i feel he could have done a better job
by les boulez bomber on Jan 3, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
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