Senior Bowl Rosters, Shanahan's QBs, and Open Thread
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 28, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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PrintHere's our Senior Bowl open thread, and after the jump are rosters for both teams.
| When: | 4PM EST |
| TV: | NFL Network |
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QBs Shanahan is coaching:
- Nick Foles (6'5" 244 lbs, Arizona) - Projected 2nd round
- Brandon Weeden (6'3" 1/2, 219 lbs, Ok State) - Projected late 1st/early 2nd
- Ryan Lindley (6'3" 3/4, 229 lbs, San Diego State) - Projected 3rd
WR to watch (that Shanahan is coaching):
- Juron Criner (6'2" 1/8, 220 lbs, Arizona)
South/Shanahan Roster
No.
Name
Position
HT/WT
School
55
Acho, Emmanuel
LB
6'1" / 235
Texas
4
Adams, Joe
WR
5'10" 1/2 / 174
Arkansas
26
Allen, Antonio
DB
6'1" 1/4 / 202
South Carolina
72
Allen, Jeff
OL
6'4" / 306
Illinois
28
Ballard, Vick
RB
5'10" 1/8 / 217
Mississippi State
5
Bentley, Dwight
DB
5'9" 7/8 / 176
Louisiana-Lafayette
91
Bequette, Jake
LB
6'4" 1/2 / 264
Arkansas
61
Blackwell, Will
OL
6'3" 1/2 / 314
LSU
74
Blake, Philip
OL
6'2" 3/8 / 312
Baylor
2
Boykin, Brandon
DB
5'9" 1/4 / 183
Georgia
13
Bradham, Nigel
LB
6'1" 5/8 / 237
Florida State
70
Brown, James
OL
6'3" 1/2 / 307
Troy
47
Brown, Zach
LB
6'1" 3/8 / 236
North Carolina
29
Bullock, Randy
PK
5'9" 3/8 / 207
Texas A&M
13
Butler, Drew
P
6'1" 1/8 / 199
Georgia
90
Coples, Quinton
DL
6'5" 3/4 / 281
North Carolina
33
Creer, Lennon
RB
5'11 7/8" / 222
Louisiana Tech
82
Criner, Juron
WR
6'2" 1/8 / 220
Arizona
8
Foles, Nick
QB
6'5" / 244
Arizona
87
Fuller, Jeff
WR
6'4" 1/8 / 217
Texas A&M
24
Ganaway, Terrance
RB
5'11" 1/2 / 241
Baylor
71
Glenn, Cordy
OL
6'5" 1/2 / 346
Georgia
89
Green, Ladarius
TE
6'5" 3/4 / 237
Louisiana-Lafayette
62
Harris, Josh
DS
6'1" 1/8 / 250
Auburn
19
Hayward, Casey
DB
5'11" / 188
Vanderbilt
96
Howard, Jaye
DL
6'3" / 292
Florida
6
Ingram, Melvin
DL
6'1" 7/8 / 276
South Carolina
97
Jackson, Malik
DL
6'4 3/4" / 285
Tennessee
88
Jenkins, A.J.
WR
6'0 1/8" / 192
Illinois
1
Jenkins, Janoris
DB
5'9" 3/4 / 191
North Alabama
94
Jerod-Eddie, Tony
DL
6'4" / 303
Texas A&M
60
Jones, Ben
OL
6'2" 5/8 / 304
Georgia
85
Jones, Dwight
WR
6'3" 1/8 / 226
North Carolina
17
Lindley, Ryan
QB
6'3" 3/4 / 229
San Diego State
10
Martin, Markelle
DB
6'0" 3/4 / 203
Oklahoma State
76
McCants, Matt
OL
6'5" 5/8 / 309
UAB
24
Menzie, DeQuan
DB
5'10" 1/2 / 195
Alabama
32
Morris, Alfred
RB
5'10 1/4" / 222
Florida Atlantic
19
Peterson, Deangelo
TE
6'2" 7/8 / 230
LSU
92
Powell, Tydreke
DL
6'2" 3/8 / 297
North Carolina
2
Rainey, Chris
RB
5'8" 3/8 / 174
Florida
93
Randall, Kheeston
DL
6'4" 1/2 / 297
Texas
51
Robinson, Keenan
LB
6'3" 1/8 / 240
Texas
77
Sanders, Zebrie
OL
6'5" 1/2 / 308
Florida State
44
Smelley, Brad
TE
6'1" 7/8 / 233
Alabama
31
Spence, Sean
LB
5'11" 3/8 / 228
Miami
4
Steed, Ryan
DB
5'10" 3/8 / 190
Furman
18
Taylor, Brandon
DB
5'11" 1/8 / 202
LSU
98
Thompson, Brandon
DL
6'2" / 311
Clemson
41
Upshaw, Courtney
DL
6'1" 1/2 / 273
Alabama
73
Vlachos, William
OL
6'0" 3/8 / 306
Alabama
3
Weeden, Brandon
QB
6'3" 1/2 / 219
Oklahoma State
North Roster/Vikings
No.
Name
Position
HT/WT
School
75
Adams, Mike
OL
6'7" / 323
Ohio State
71
Bergstrom, Tony
OL
6'5 1/2" / 315
Utah
50
Brewster, Mike
OL
6'4 1/4" / 310
Ohio State
44
Cole, Audie
LB
6'4 1/8" / 258
NC State
8
Cousins, Kirk
QB
6'2 1/2" / 209
Michigan State
81
Crawford, Jack
DL
6'4 7/8" / 268
Penn State
99
Curry, Vinny
DL
6'3" / 265
Marshall
4
David, Lavonte
LB
6'0 1/2" / 225
Nebraska
28
Davis, Demario
LB
6'1 3/4" / 235
Arkansas State
82
Egnew, Michael
TE
6'5 1/4" / 251
Missouri
34
Ewing, Bradie
RB
5'11 5/8" / 241
Wisconsin
13
Fleming, Jamell
DB
5'10 5/8" / 202
Oklahoma
24
Fletcher, Donnie
DB
6'0 1/4" / 201
Boston College
83
Graham, T.J.
WR
5' 11 3/8" / 182
NC State
1
Herron, Dan
RB
5'9 1/4" / 212
Ohio State
84
Igwenagu, Emil
TE
6'1 1/8" / 245
Massachusetts
18
Iloka, George
DB
6'3 5/8" / 222
Boise State
2
Jackson, Asa
DB
5'9 7/8" / 193
Cal Poly
56
Johnson, Cam
LB
6'3 3/4" / 267
Virginia
52
Johnson, James-Michael
LB
6'1 1/8" / 249
Nevada
23
Johnson, Leonard
DB
5'9 7/8" / 198
Iowa State
78
Johnson, Rishaw
OL
6'3 3/4" / 310
California (Pa.)
89
Jones, Marvin
WR
6'1 7/8" / 198
California
56
Kelemete, Senio
OL
6'3 1/2" / 300
Washington
85
Linthicum, Brian
TE
6'3 3/4" / 249
Michigan State
8
Lynn, D'Anton
DB
5'11 5/8" / 205
Penn State
22
Martin, Doug
RB
5'9" / 219
Boise State
68
Martin, Mike
DL
6'1 1/4" / 307
Michigan
92
McClellin, Shea
DL
6'3" 1/4 / 248
Boise State
7
McNutt, Marvin
WR
6'2 1/2" / 216
Iowa
11
Moore, Kellen
QB
5'11 3/4" / 191
Boise State
21
Norman, Josh
DB
6'0 1/4" / 200
Coastal Carolina
97
Nortman, Brad
P
6'2 3/8" / 207
Wisconsin
73
Osemele, Kelechi
OL
6'5 3/8" / 333
Iowa State
23
Pead, Isaiah
RB
5'9 7/8" / 193
Cincinnati
20
Polk, Chris
RB
5'10 1/2" / 224
Washington
3
Posey, DeVier
WR
6'1 5/8" / 209
Ohio State
88
Quick, Brian
WR
6'3 1/2" / 222
Appalachian State
98
Reyes, Kendall
DL
6'3 7/8" / 300
Connecticut
81
Robinson, Gerell
WR
6'3 1/8" / 223
Arizona State
19
Robinson, Trenton
DB
5'9 1/2" / 193
Michigan State
72
Schwartz, Mitchell
OL
6'5 1/8" / 317
California
22
Smith, Harrison
DB
6'1 3/4" / 212
Notre Dame
74
Ta'amu, Alameda
DL
6'2 1/2" / 341
Washington
74
Troutman, Johnnie
OL
6'4 1/8" / 325
Penn State
45
Wagner, Bobby
LB
6'0 1/4" / 241
Utah State
37
Wiggs, Carson
PK
6'0 1/2" / 222
Purdue
16
Wilson, Russell
QB
5'10 5/8" / 203
Wisconsin
90
Winn, Billy
DL
6'3 3/8" / 296
Boise State
62
Wojta, Kyle
DS
6'1 1/2" / 239
Wisconsin
95
Wolfe, Derek
DL
6-5 / 300
Cincinnati
70
Zeitler, Kevin
OL
6'3 7/8" / 315
Wisconsin
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Betcha Shanny doesn't start the ones he's interested in...
In poker terms… he wouldn’t want to tip his hand!
I think I'm with you
Im a little afraid that we won’t be able to accurately predict where he will be taken.
Say we think he is safe for us to get at the top of the third.
But then he’s gone mid-second.
His weird set of pro’s and con’s make him hard to place.
He's shown to be the most ready of the ones that might be available to us at 6th overall.
I wouldn’t mind him under center.
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Winn, Wolfe, Reyes, and Jerod-Eddie are here today
Bequette is as well, but he’s working with the LB’s , probably will move to the 3-4 OLB
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I saw on twitter just a minute ago that the Redskins had a long meeting with...
Wait for it…drumroll please….Russell Wilson.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 28, 2012 2:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Snark not needed.
Just repeating what I saw. No dog in the fight.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 28, 2012 2:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just want to say we shouldn't read into any of these interviews
they are going to have a pretty long interview with every player down here. It’s a great way to do your homework, and on top of that it disguises who they really are interested in.
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If Shanny is
actually intrigued by Russell Wilson, he’d be even more inclined to go shorter, running the Brandon Banks Wildcat all season.
I changed my last name to Shanahan, and now I'm the new OL Coach.
Weeden is starting.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 28, 2012 3:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Senior Bowl? For the Redskins next season? Both?
I wouldn’t mind him under center! Not worried about his age either.
Im coming around on it.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 28, 2012 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Honestly,
Weeden could be the guy who makes us Legit, but not superstars. Could be Mike’s man for 5 years, than grab a Kyle QB to develop for 2 years or so.
If we continue with the discipline and talent being added, we don’t need a superstar QB right away. We can be the falcons or the jets, who form a good, solid, deep teams, and then we could splurge for a QB a number of years from now.
at 6??
At 6 we should be taking a player that we can have in the orginzation for a good long time, people saying his age isn’t an issue are ignoring the fact that we’re missing out on about 5-6 years of his playing career.
"And you can pass it to someone you never met, and let 'em get as high as you...you're eyes red as sh*t, mine too"
I understand your point here....
but I think the “fact” that we are missing out on years is as debatable as anything else here. I suppose Carson Palmer still has a career but he hasn’t been the same since the big injury. I concede this is not common, but it happens, Predicting the length of anybody’s pro career is a fools errand. Also, most seem to think that Weeden would be ready to go right out of the gate, while Floes/Tannehill would need to sit for awhile. That would mean we would need to spend more resources on another starting QB. All that being said, I like the idea of bringing in Weeden, but no, not at #6.
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that's really my only point of contention
Second round,, late 1st sure,
at #6 a team should be getting a premium talent that they’re gonna have for a good long time. And while you’re right in that trying to predict how long a career will be, there is still ahuge difference between a 23 year old rookie and a guy that’s gonna be 29 when the season starts
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Donno if anyone else is watching, but just saw Weeden with the play action/throw to the intermediate dig-route. That has Kyle Shanahan written all over it.
Yeah it does,
I still don’t like him as a QB because of his age but I have to admit that he has looked very good all week
I’d be happy with 6-7 years if he pans out. As Redskins fans, we haven’t had that kind of QB tenure even.
haha +1
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Agree... he's all you look for in a leader (from a Human Resources POV)...
Not too young (maturity), not too old (health). Married (not too wild). Poised. Strong arm (he can make all NFL throws). Etc.
I’ll take him over a developmental kid anyday… We’ll still grab a low rd QB… but he looks like a starter.
If he is able to start immediately
& can play until he is 35 or 36 then I agree, I am not sure that he can do both. If he is our QB next year tho, I’ll be glad not to see Rex giving the ball away
I like the idea of grabbing him with the 2nd rounder. We’ll able to add to his support with the 6th pick/wherever we are in the 1st.
I think if we really want Weeden
We need to aggressively pursue a tradeback in the first round. We should seek to have two 2nd round picks.
That way if Weeden is projected as a third round pick, we have the luxury of taking him 1/2 way into the 2nd round, instead of reaching at the top of the 2nd round.
From what I read on HH - Weeden could easily go in the first round
and definitely early in the second. He’s probably going to be the #3 QB. So if we don’t want to lose him, we better grab him at 20+.
That is way too high for Weeden
i would not take him before 4th rd,
then you won't come close to getting him, i think he's early 3rd at worst
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i dont want him
i am not that impressed with him, he dont respons well to pressure, and he will see some pressure with the Redskins, and i am not talking about the senior bowl, just seen games where he makes bad decisions when pressured, and he seems to overthrow receivers a lot, it is still gonna take him time to get adjusted at least a year and he will be 29 when season starts i will pass
considering how accurate he was this season and this week I don't by the 'overthrow' receivers idea at all.
i really think he’s a day one starter, and with in a year will be a good one.
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looking good in practice where you know you aint gonna get hit
in 7 on 7 is one thing but i seen him in games where he overthrow receivers, and did not respond well to pressure. you got to be able to do it with live bullets flying, i dont see where he would be able to come right in and start day 1, not gonna happen
i just don't know what games you are talking about
he only had one game where his completion % was under 60% and just 2 where it was under 66%
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I’d be shocked if Weeden beat out Tannehill, especially if he attends the combine, which, from what I’m hearing, his foot will be far enough along to allow him too.
I guess he flopped at the Senior Bowl - the game, anyway
Foles did better.
hopefully, though i'd guess at best he'd be limited to throw
so he won’t get to show his mobility or athletic ability
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I agree
With the sixth pick, if Trent Richardson is available, I’m hoping Cincy would want to trade both of their first to jump up and grab him. I know that’s a total fantasy scenario but we would have the 17th and 22nd picks in the first. We could use the 17th to grab either the best OL or the best WR and use the 22nd to trade back and snag a few more picks. I still like Nick Toon due to the bloodlines but he will be available in the third.
Two of Martin, Decastro, Wright/Jeffery and Kirkpatrick(even though I am losing faith in him) would be a great start to a draft.
I would be happy with that, but I’d rather have RGIII if possible.
Skins rule
My point of view is...
If the only knock on him is whether or not he can be the solution for more than a decade, then let’s cross that bridge when we get to it.
We havn't had a solution that has lasted more than 3 years
So I don’t know what is wrong with one that could last 6-7
Weeden is still going to have a learning curve
maybe like a year or 2 i just dont think it is worth it to rely on a guy that will be 29 year old Rookie, John Beck was in the same boat so i will pass
North looks more like Shannys offense.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 28, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just gotta say, shout out to Michael Brewster, Mike Adams, Devier Posey, and Boom Herron, donning the silver helmets for the last time.
Adams looks sharp
I thought he was strictly a right tackle but he has had an incredible game at LT. I hate Ohio State but I am liking Adams and Brewster. Go Blue!
I would be fine with Weeden on our team
Being an OSU fan this would be ideal
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It looks like they've installed the Rex Grossman package
There's always next year...
by The Shanaplan on Jan 28, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't put too much into it one way or the other.
Throwing 8 passes to unfamiliar receivers after a week of “practice” won’t change my opinion of him.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 28, 2012 5:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
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Remember Dalton had the worst Senior Bowl numbers of the 6 QB's
http://www.seniorbowl.com/files/SENIOR11.HTM#GAME.IND
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Remeber one thing
Before anyone falls in love with Weedon, Shanny hasn’t really seen what Tannehill can do. Sucks that he got hurt and couldn’t play. Foles has looked okay throwing to Criner.
Foles was better
Foles is still a work in progress but he clearly had the better statistical game. I think he is a better pick than Weeden and with the off season and some good coaching on his footwork he could be our long awaited franchise QB.
Lindley. 10 – 21 with 1 INT and 0 TD for 103 yards.
Weeden. 5 – 9 with 2 INT and 0 TD for 56 yards.
Foles. 11 – 15 with 0 INT and 1 TD for 136 yards.
Weeden also had more playing time than Foles. Weeden had the whole 1st Quarter and couldnt score and threw a INT. Then came back in in the 4th to try and bring the South back but insteads throws a horrible INT. Foles had a Quarter and drove the ball down well and put up the only TD to bring us within 1 score.
Foles does needs to work on his footwork and driving off his back foot instead of relying on his big arm but still did great.
HAIL 4 LIFE!!!!
you can't base playing time on quarter, it should be based on attempts
but this game is going to have little bearing on the process. Scouts and coaches really only look at it like it can help a player (say Foles) but it can’t hurt them, unless they appear lazy or if like Weeden went into a Phillip Rivers tirade on the sideline.
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clarify the wording - Weeden did not go into a tirade, right?
You were saying, “if he had…”?
haha good catch
yeah he did not go into any tirade that I could see. And I did try to look at him. He seemed to try to show leadership on the sideline and talk to the QB coach.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 29, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
my opinion aint change still a 4th rd prospect IMO
I just would not put my faith in a 29 year old rookie QB when the season start, and i have watched this guy crumble under pressure just like in todays game.
huh??
what are you talking about? and what previous games did he crumble?
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when i say crumble the guy dont respond well to pressure
and make bad decisions, just dont see him being a top15 type of starter in the NFL
see i don't see that at all
I think he’s one of the smartest decision makers in the college game and does handle pressure well. This game should have really no bearing on his draft status. What he did this week vastly outweighs the 8 passes from yesterday.
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i am not basing my thoughts on this game
I have seen him play during the year where he did not handle the pressure well, you can get away with that in college when you are winning by 21 points but that is not going to be the case in the NFL.
He really isn’t anything special. Think how fast he would have to grow into a elite passer and you realize he just isn’t worth a high pick. We are talking about a guy who has barely ever played under center. These draftniks just like him because he shows so much more maturity than the rest which is because of his upside limitation in the first place.
Weeden looks good if we can not get RG3
Is RG3 going to be in the game ?
RG3 is not a senior.
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Lindley
looks like garbage in practice but not that bad in the game
I expect Foles will impress once he takes the field.
Still want to see Tannehill, but no shot of that.
1. RGIII
2. RGIII
3. RGIII
4/5. Tannehill/Foles
6. Weeden
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Foles sucks!!!!
Too slow, slow delivery, not accurate
by PeetyPab on Jan 28, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
huh?
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oh i'm trying to figure out what sat.'s game has into any basis on his accuracy.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
he was a 3 year starter with a 67% completion rate…how is that inaccurate?
too slow? are you comparing him to RG3? He is plenty mobile for quarterback, just don’t expect qb draws with him.
His delivery is fine too, definitely not as quick as kellen moore’s, but that’s because he’s almost 7-8 inches taller
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got to watch a little bit of the 3rd. then had to leave. got to see foles play a little bit. i wouldnt mind getting him if we miss rg3
Shanny is a poker player, he benched weeden after he threw a pic, so his stock doesn’t continue to rise, I like it, i’m very eager to see foles play
He is a poker player
Which is why who he is talking too and playing more says nothing about that he is thinking. I believe a read a story that he didn’t spend much time with Cutler before drafting him. With any other coach people would be reading too much into everyone he meets with/plays, for Shanahan…I think people are reading WAY too much into things.
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I think a better assessment would be to look at he he doesn't spend much time with.
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Exactly
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by Copious 1 on Jan 28, 2012 9:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Look at the only guy you haven’t seen Shanny talk about, RGIII, he’s our next QB. I think Parks has a good insight that we would go Claiborne if he was there at 6 but right now, I think Shanny is going to go for RGIII, then Casey Hayward in the third, and I also think we’ll pick Christ Rainey in the 4th.
Shanahan - I still remember his first year - went all over the country watching QBs
then didn’t take any of them.
Mike certainly isn't trying to "hide" Weeden
There is so much coming – the combine, pro-days, all the films, etc. And I doubt Shanahan has even decided on the top choices yet. He wants to see as much of all the prospects as he can.
Kirk Cousins
He played in a pro-style offense at MSU correct?
by 2up2down on Jan 28, 2012 6:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yes
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he's had one of the best weeks down here
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Isaiah Pead
impressed the most in special teams and running. I would love to get him in 3 rd.
Rodskins
by Rodskins on Jan 28, 2012 7:15 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Russell wilson
performs well in any context. all you haters say he’s too small, just think he would be worth a pick at round 4 or 5. shabby wouldn’t spend 4 hrs if not possible. files looked good. weeden to old for me.
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by Rodskins on Jan 28, 2012 7:18 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Hope this stops the Weedan train. He just isn’t anything special. He only looked better because this Qb crop at the senior bowl was quite bad. Weedan would have to get so much better so quickly that I just don’t see it happening.
Qb options that have a legitimate chance of not getting Shanny fired in 2 years are looking very limited.
don't see how this should stop the Weeden train
he was by far the best QB down here even if you include yesterday’s game, I can’t stress enough the level of stock teams put into this game….zero
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That’s the point. Being the best QB down here doesn’t mean much when the group was quite bad. He is only good in comparison.
well Brandon Weeden is above Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Andy Dalton and probably Christian Ponder coming out.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 30, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Best talent
Still can’t coach Mike Maylock told him if he lost the game it would be his coaching. So you see people, it really doesn’t matter who is available we need a better choice maker!
I know
we should draft a football player
"Women should have three breasts - two in front and one in the back for dancing." -Al Bundy
Senior Bowl
I thought all the QBs were underwhelming!
nope 0-3 now
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It's hard to judge the QB's in this kind of game...
I’m still big on Foles, I thought he did pretty good considering his line collapsed when he came in, not to mention the multiple false starts…really killed his rhythem.
Weeden looked pretty poised, but he made a couple bad throws…hard to tell if the picks were due to route running or poor reads.
Wilson looked good, quick and accurate outside of the pocket. His height is going to kill his stock though
"Honey Badger Don't Care"
Weeden seriously???
Weeden isn’t a W1 starter. What would be the realistic cost for trading up to #2? Our #1 next year? Will it cost us our #2this year? That’s a lot but I’m all for it for a Qb of that stature. Weeden isn’t in RG3 league!!!
its not that easy it is gonna be expensive to move up to #2 or #3 other teams will be fighting for thoughs spot so the price will go up as well
HAIL 4 LIFE!!!!
Then we are going to need
a RT, an interior lineman, a WR, some secondary help, and an ILB without many draft picks
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