At What Cost? A Breakdown of What Potential Free Agents Carl Nicks and Dwayne Bowe Could Cost:
Earlier this week UKRedskin and Ronnie Adkins took a look at perspective free agents G Carl Nicks and WR Dwayne Bowe respectively. Now it is time to look at what their additions could mean to the Redskins overall cap situation. It's important to remember that the Redskins do have a good amount of cap room for next season (at least $40 million), and for a more detailed report on the Skins cap situation go here. So knowing that the Redskins can afford these players is one thing, but the true question becomes 'At what cost?'
Carl Nicks:
Chance He Re-signs: 35%, there is little doubt that Drew Brees and the Saints want to have their All-pro lineman back, the question is can they afford him. New Orleans isn't in the strongest cap position to begin with, and they have to re-sign Drew Brees, Nicks, Marques Colston, Robert Meachum, Tracey Porter and a couple of other players. Now it is going to be impossible for them to bring back everyone, so some decisions will have to be made.
Chance He is Franchised: 10%, Now you might be asking why is his chance of being franchised so much smaller than his chance of re-signing? Well the answer is simple: Drew Brees. Until Brees is back in the fold it is inconceivable to even consider franchising anyone else. Even if Brees is re-signed early, the Saints might not have the cap space to commit that franchise value to Nicks. All offensive linemen get the same franchise tag, meaning Nicks's tag value is inflated due to premium LT contracts. The Saints could actually bring Nicks back on a contract that makes him the richest guard in the league that is paid out evenly, and it would cost less than the franchise tag value.
What Will He Cost?: Given the incredible season that he is coming off of, his age, and the open market, I don't think it is a stretch to imagine that Nicks will get the highest contract for a guard ever. Right now the current standard is Logan Mankins' 6 year $51 million deal, with a $20 million signing bonus and $30 million guaranteed. That guarantee is a bit high so I'd guess Nicks would get more like $25 million guaranteed, and he might have a 7th year included in his deal.
How Does This Affect the Cap: Now with such a big contract you don't want to pay too much early on, but you also don't want to backload the deal too much. My guess is Nicks will look for a big signing bonus ($20+ million). To make it easy I'll say a $21 million SB, that counts $3 million against the cap per year. As for the other $4 million guaranteed, I'd guess it would be evenly split in his first two years basic salary (so $2 million a year will be guaranteed).
Year by Year breakdown: Sal=salary for that year, SB=signing bonus allotment, OB= any other bonuses, Cap hit=what he costs vs the cap, REL=what it would cost to cut a player in a given year
2012: Sal: $3 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB:$0; Cap hit: $6 million, REL: $25 million
2013: Sal: $3.5 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB: $0: Cap hit: $6.5 million; REL: $20 million
2014: Sal: $4 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB: $0; Cap hit: $7 million; REL: $15 million
2015: Sal: $6 mil, SB: $3 mil; OB: $0, Cap hit: $9 million, REL: $12 million
2016: Sal: $4.5 mil, SB: $3 mil; OB $0.5 mil, Cap Hit: $8 million, REL: $9 million
2017: Sal: $ 7.75 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB $1.25 mil; Cap Hit: $12 million; REL: $6 million
2018: Sal: $ 8.75 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB $1 mil; Cap Hit: $12.75 million; REL: $3 million
Dwayne Bowe:
Chance He Will Re-sign: 25%, I think Bowe is going to capitalize and basically go to where the money and fit is the best. If the Chiefs were a better team or it was a better situation for Bowe then maybe he'd be more likely to stay. But he's got a new coach, some uncertainty at QB, and a situation whee the Chiefs are maybe a year or two away from contending.
Chance He Will Be Franchised: 55%, I think the Chiefs have a decision to make in regards to franchising either CB Brandon Carr or Bowe. I think the team is less prepared to sustain the loss of Carr, so he might be their top priority (though that is a lot of money for their corners). If they can get Carr in the fold the team might figured to franchise Bowe, since the tag value ($9.4 mil) will likely be below the $10-12 million annual average a top receiver will probably be looking for. Also, given how teams make major trades consistently for receivers the Chiefs could tag him in the hopes of dealing him sometime between now and next October's trade deadline.
What Will He Cost?: While some think the deep WR market could depress contract values, I don't see any of the top receivers having any struggles in landing a top level contract. A lot of teams out there need to add at least one starting receiver, and quite a few of those teams have the cap room necessary to grab one of these guys. Conventional wisdom would say that we should use the contract values of last year's top receivers, Santonio Holmes (5 years $45 million) and Sidney Rice (5 ) as a starting point, but I really don't see those contracts applying. Holmes was coming off a season where he was suspened for part of the year and had some major off the field red flags. Rice was coming off a major injury and really only had one good year to his credit. Bowe has a far better resume, with less medical and off the field baggage than either player. While I don't think he will challenge Larry Fitzgerald's receiver record of $15 million average, an $11 million average is probable. I'll say he comes in at about $11.25 million per year over 6 years, or $67.5 million. I think the guarantee will be around $30 million.
How does he affect the cap: Now you are going to want to back load a good chunk of this, but I'd guess you are looking at an $18 million signing bonus and his first three years guranteed.
Year by Year breakdown: Sal=salary for that year, SB=signing bonus allotment, OB= any other bonuses, Cap hit=what he costs vs the cap, REL=what it would cost to cut a player in a given year
2012: Sal: $3.5 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB:$1 mil; Cap hit: $7.5 million, REL: $30 million
2013: Sal: $4.5 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB: $2 mil: Cap hit: $9.5 million; REL: $23.5 million
2014: Sal: $4 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB: $3.5 mil; Cap hit: $10.5 million; REL: $16 million
2015: Sal: $8.5 mil, SB: $3 mil; OB: $2.5 mil, Cap hit: $14 million, REL: $9 million
2016: Sal: $8 mil, SB: $3 mil; OB $1.5 mil, Cap Hit: $12.5 million, REL: $6 million
2017: Sal: $10.5 mil; SB: $3 mil; OB $0; Cap Hit: $13.5 million; REL: $3 million
Steve Shoup will be covering Senior Bowl Live this year for his own site Fanspeak.com, but will provide write-ups on players for the Redskins here on Hogs Haven as well. Check out his NFL Draft Page for more details and updates throughout the draft season! HTTR!
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At First I Said give me Both
Then I thought if are going to spend money why not spend it on both Grubbs & Nicks? Why? First of all our offensive line would only need a tackle & center the draft could satisfy these, we could also get them both cheaper than most will know, and at the same time we could use the draft to get our wide-receivers from there. We have some choices, but with as many players that are coming out early and what we have already we could get all the other players we need in the draft by drafting wisely like last year. We have 8 selections, it is no reason we cannot get at least 12 more selections and up to 16 if need be. Think of what our offensive line would be with both Grubbs & Nicks as starters! Then add the center & tackle we would be set. Last year 6 selections 12 coming out draft this year 8 selections…….
I thought the same thing... get both Grubbs and Nicks... and secure our interior Oline for the next 5 years
… but… Licht wasn’t bad… and… its a lot of $ for Guards… I’d rather get either Grubbs or Nicks… and… draft a top G (DeCastro, Zeitler, Glenn, etc.).
The priority has to be OL
so id be more than happy to see them bring in Nicks. By getting him in, letting Licht and Chester fight it out for the other G spot and drafting a RT somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd round the line is suddenly looking a lot better.
Wow, that is a lot of $$$ for Bowe, once you see it on page...
I have not voted yet, because I want to think about it first.
I can’t imagine Nicks going to 7 years, without a bigger bonus ($28-30 mil). As we have discussed on prior posts, he is the best guard in the league, worthy of the highest paid contract in the league. YET, I am beginning to lean more towards Grubbs, due to both the system and $$$ savings.
The WR issue, IMO, is more determined by what plan Shanny has for QB. If we are trading up for RG3, then I believe we get someone like Bowe. If Manning is an option, or if we stay at #6, then trade down is in play, and we have many to pick from in the draft. AGAIN, IT ALL IS BASED ON THE PLAN………….AND ONLY SHANNY KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
So, what do I vote………
yeah both players are pretty pricey
It might be a bit more for the guarantee, but Mankins guarantee blows every other guard out of the water I thought that might be down a little bit. Even if he needed more guaranteed money I don’t think it would be a major issue as the Redskins could just guarantee that 3rd year salary as well. Given the cap hit they wouldn’t be cutting him anyways and he’d get the higher guarantee.
Honestly even if they are trading up i wouldn’t go with Bowe. He doesn’t have major work ethic or teamwork red flags, but there are some. If they want to get that receiver I’d target Colston first, Wayne 2nd. If I’m going to make the massive trade up for a QB and not have those 3-5 extra picks to fill out the roster, I don’t think we can afford the premium receiver since we will need to spread our money out. Also I’d rather have a guy with far better workout and attitude reputation to pair with my young QB.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 26, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I am following you...
in regards to
If I’m going to make the massive trade up for a QB and not have those 3-5 extra picks to fill out the roster, I don’t think we can afford the premium receiver since we will need to spread our money out
My thoughts are, we have some depth to develop already, aka Pauls, Austin, Robinson…so a premier guy is the final piece in this group, which is what Bowe is.
I am not thinking, though, that we have to have him. I am just thinking, since we will lose some picks, adding a premier guy would make sense. If we don’t, no skin off our backs…
I'm obviously not a huge fan of going the WR route
but if we don’t have the picks than I think we need to address it. If that is case i’d rather see us go Colston/Wayne b/c I still think they are premium WR’s, and they come with a shorter cost and long term commitment. If they are off the board I’d continue to look at lower cost, just to make sure we have enough money for every position.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
So if Shan goes after Bowe
you think that means were moving up for RG3?
The draft is a completly different beast though, we could get Bowe with all intentions of getting RG3, we lose there, that leaves us with maybe (just maybe) a chance at claiborne or moving back and grabbing another WR letting all our bums go. Could you imagine a Rookie QB like Foles Weeden or Tannehill throwing to Bowe (Floyd, Jefferies) with one of the best RTs in the draft (if we trade down I’m assuming we get an extra 2nd rd pick) That’d be a sick developmental stage for an offense, I think it would be very easy for a guy like Tannelhill or Foles to succeed with Bowe at 1 Floyd at 2 and Hank at 3. Holy crap.
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even without Bowe
Hankerson, Floyd and Moss is a nice trio, Hankerson Floyd and Paul is nice as well. And you know what if our 2nd round qb fails then lets move up and get Bray. Next year it wont matter that much (we’ll have fixed up our oline maybe 1 weak link, there always is) our wr corps will be good. The only thing in question for 2013 is the secondary. However I don’t think we can get a top notch CB in the draft unless we find a gem.
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no fear
They are serviceable but strike no fear. Let’s not fall over in love with Hank, who could barely crack the roster coming out of training camp, has had one big game in the show, has a long history of dropsies, and is still a ?? in terms of health.
no i would think the opposite
I don’t see how you can sign Bowe and attempt to fix the other needs of this team if you are trading away a bunch of picks the next 2 years for RGIII.
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I was saying if we get Bowe and then make a move to get RG3
BUT FAIL So we end up moving back and filling in more holes and having a beast wr corps
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no i get that
i was just answering your question at the top. If Shanny goes out and sign Bowe then I think he doesn’t even try for RGIII, b/c it would limit what else we could do in FA.
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Ok
man this looks to be a fun offseason….to bad we’ve been in it since week 12
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haha
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no to Bowe!
I don’t see why people r to high on Bowe, he is not that good! He is average good, not great..reason why chiefs will let him walk, I would rather take somebodylike Nicks, draft another OL stud in the first round and all of the sudden we have a solid Line…WRs have to be developed after drafting them..look at Marshal ! Never was the same…
by PeetyPab on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I voted no to both also
I like nicks, but given the cost differential I’d go with Grubbs.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 26, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I fully believe...
That if we fix up our O-line first then the QB is given more protection to make better decisions in the pocket and out (depending on the QB’s strengths next year). This gives them a better chance of hitting a WR in stride. So if we can get both I say great, but I go all for the O-line first.
agreed!
I agree with you 100% , we only need one more stud or two average good additions to our oline…we r not that far away from competing..look at this year!, iwith grossman …
by PeetyPab on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is amazing that we stomped the Giants...
TWICE this year and I can only wonder what would have happened if we stuck with Grossman After week 5. That being said our division has lost some of the luster in once had. We keep joking over here that basically the Giants sucked the least in our division during the regular season (as far as record) to secure a playoff run. But if we can compete with Grossman and a good O-line then I’m really excited to see how whomever we bring it at QB competes with more depth at the O-line than even this season.
HTTR!
I always laugh when I hear people say this
I can only wonder what would have happened if we stuck with Grossman After week 5
Grossman had a HORRID game against the Eagles in week 6 where he threw 4 INTs. Everyone was clambering for him to be sat down in favor of John Beck. Beck turned out to be no good, but during the 3 week period where he played, Rex had pneumonia, was ill and sidelined, so he wouldn’t have played anyway.
Having Rex in all year wouldn’t have changed the fate of this team in 2011
by StephanHart on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
just so you know, Stephan...
I NEVER clamber for anything (haha), and most certainly did NOT even suggest that Beck should see some time. I was never on his bandwagon, and I was content to play it out with Grossy, since he was the guy they went forward with….
Understood, but even if you wanted Grossman, and he wasn't sick, do you think Rex playing those 3 games would have changed this team's fate?
by StephanHart on Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
then it'd be even harder to move down.
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or get a serviceable player for us at the right value at 10th
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absolutely...
and I agree, we would have been in a worse situation.
So, accidentally, we are in a better position to aggressively solve our QB situation, however the FO deems appropriate.
also it is funny when people think that us beating the Giants or hanging close to the Pats has some great impact on our future success
what does it mean then that we almost lost to the Rams? or got beat pretty bad by the Vikes even when Ponder and Peterson were out?
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Jerry Jones said
The year the cowboys beat the Redskins (the 1991 SB season) and spoiled the undefeated season, was the game he felt turned the cowboys around and made them that 90s dynasty.
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+1 Heard a stat: The Redskins are 8-6 against eventual SB champion teams over the past 10+ years (cant remember the exact number of seasons)
We’ve beaten good teams many times, but due to our lack of talent and depth, it never actually means anything.
Any given Sunday
exactly
one or two games are just that one or two games. What matters is what you can do over 16 games, and that is where we have failed.
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I was at the game...
I was screaming along with everyone else in anger. I drove 5 hours for that game… never again with Rex at the helm. No one is arguing that the fate would have been any different. What I’m saying here is that in our lame division where a 9-7 record gets you a play off shot, it’s not hard to see how with a some more strength on the O-line that next year a good QB can come in and compete. If Rex was able to put us at a 3-1 record by week 4 with the O-line we have currently then a good QB with a few extra picks to the O-line in this draft can put us even at least with the Giants if not beyond. And honestly if we watch the team play in hopes of picking up better draft positions next year then whats the point? It’s play to win, not play to pick first next year.
we also had an easy schedule last year (esp. at the beginning of the year)
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Well I wouldn't argue that they were easy games per say considering our offense...
Arizona and Dallas and the Rams were edge of your seat close wins. The first Giants game could be looked at in terms of easy because they had multiple injuries. Easy for Arron Rodgers or Tom Brady probably haha. But… Any given Sunday I guess, however they weren’t easy to watch for me.
yeah that is my point
we barely beat Arizona and St. Louis two pretty weak teams
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At that price, I'd take Nicks
Nicks is a BEAST! Although I’d be equally as happy if we got Grubbs instead…
Bowe just has Cerrato signing written all over him to me, this years draft is stacked at Receiver so I don’t see any reason why we should take a big cap hit when we can secure a young, hungry and talented player. Hopefully Shanahan can unearth another Brandon Marshall this year
There's always next year...
I get what you are saying...
and, again, I am not promoting that we NEED to sign a premier WR, but, just a thought -
Hopefully Shanahan can unearth another Brandon Marshall this year
Isn’t this just like hoping for a developmental QB to blossom into Brady? I have never been a fan of “hoping” for us to be lucky…
I hope we get lucky all the time
whats wrong with just randomly finding Tom Brady? Having Drew Bledsoe go out with an injury? Then having scab Tom Brady fill him in lead them to 3 SB victories, 1 Giant loss, 1 Pending, 2 Children with two different mothers, having the worst hair cut in football, being stylish a cross dresser with UGG Boots. And somehow nobody ever says a bad thing about him….not for wearing UGG boots, not for knocking up his GF and then leaving her, not for being considered so clutch then losing the superbowl in an undefeated season. And not for cheating on 3 SB victories.
Would I love to have a guy with Tom Brady’s skill….HELL YES
Do I want a crossdressing, womanizing, child leaving, hippie, cheater to play for the Redskins….no I’ll take Rex over that anyday
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I didn't ask...
Would I love to have a guy with Tom Brady’s skill
We all “clammer” for a QB with his skills. You just can’t “hope” that anyone will end up becoming elite. That just doen’t happen….
BTW, I believe Ned Flanders is Homer Simpson’s God-loving neighbor…
It was lucky the Pats got Brady and he worked out
And they’ve won more super bowls than anyone in the last 10 years. I’ll take Luck over whatever strategy anyone else has been running. If you look at the Record luck has gotten the Pats to 5 superbowls in 10 years…or is it 11 now? We’ve been to 1 in the last 20? I’ll take luck
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so would I...
I think you don’t understand what I implying…
I am O.K. with being lucky, but, YOU CANNOT PLAN ON IT, as if it is a strategy, as some have presented. (Anyone who uses Brady as a reason why we should trade back and select a lower tiered QB is hoping to be LUCKY)…
That strategy, based on that logic, is not what I subscribe to…
Ok that clarified it for me
But this statement is what confused me
You just can’t "hope" that anyone will end up becoming elite
I hope everyone becomes elite, for the Redskins, then we trade them for 1st round picks when they’re 29 and they turn to bums. And we get another elite player and repeat the last process
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System.
Any average armed and accuracy QB with above average intelligence can win in New England. Exhibit A: Matt Cassel. I fully believe Brady would be completely average on any other team.
by tuckwell on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
as Mike Golic said this morning on Mike & Mike...
hypotheticals like that are completely unknown. We have no idea what Brady would be on another team. We can only judge players in the situation they are in.
I will venture to presume that you are in the minority who believe that
Brady would be completely average on any other team
Given that the pats roster has pretty much overturned in the 4 years since their last SB appearance, I think he has solidified himself as one of the greats….
all you have to do is watch him play
Brady is a great QB to anyone with a clue.
I do concour
But to have Brady’s success is un par amounted. I think the system is what initally made him so good. But as you may now success breeds confidence and confidence breeds success, therefore they are an evolving circle there in NE that just gets bigger. Not unlike what happened here in Washington; Failure breeds lack of confidence which brings more failure. Its a circle
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As fans what other choice do we have?
By hoping to find another Brandon Marshall, I was trying to refer to Shanahans ability to find starting talent in the later rounds of the draft. While I can only hope this is going to happen, I have faith in his ability to draft quality players (as we have seen this year.) That isn’t getting lucky, that is banking on his experience and knowledge to repeat a process which he has previously proven himself to be very good at.
There's always next year...
by The Shanaplan on Jan 26, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad I could help clear that up
I would have absolutely no problems with drafting a QB in the 6th round who turns out to be a Hall of Famer though
There's always next year...
by The Shanaplan on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
well while i hate the 'Brady is the exception' argument, i think it is def. clear that you can find quite a bit of talent in non-first round WR's
D. Jackson, Jennings, Nelson, Boldin, Ochocinco are all 2nd rounders
While Driver, Steve Johnson, Welker, Marshall, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, hines ward, Colston, V. Jackson, M. Floyd, B. Lloyd, V. Cruz, etc were all 3rd round or later receivers that have been quite good in recent years.
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HOLY CRAP!
Why is everybody voting for both?
Freaking facepalm
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
yeah, amazing
Maybe Vinny vote a bunch of times…
My give a damn broke.
by davesomethin on Jan 26, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Give me Nicks and Grubbs both.
Draft a RT, line is fixed.
by tuckwell on Jan 26, 2012 1:39 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
do you ever wonder if some of these people your talking to online
are actual players….it wouldn’t surprise me if Cooley had an account on here under an alias.
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I'd like to think NFL millionaires have better things to do with their time than blog on Hogs Haven
But you could be right…I might have called Rex a fattass right to his face
I know for a fact it happens on some SBNation sites.
This group of blogs has a pretty good rep with players.
by tuckwell on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
no rex wouldn't be on here
he’s not dedicated enough a Redskins. I think if anyone it’d be cooley.
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no cooley only goes to chatt rooms to send girls his junk pics.
i wont say anything bad about him though. because i used to do the same thing !
by munson21502 on Jan 26, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
What would you give up to see the Redskins win the Superbowl next year?
I’d give up on my ongoing attempt for Parks to love me.
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I would give up my xbox all together!!
by PeetyPab on Jan 26, 2012 5:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just saying,
think about an offense with Grubbs, Nicks, or both PLUS
Weedon at 6, and a trade up for Jeffrey in the late first.
I love Brandon Weeden, but not at 6 so the answer would be to trade back
I still wouldn’t take Jeffery since the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round are loaded with WR’s
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Or
round 1 – trade back to #9-13
round 1 – Floyd/Jefferies
round 2 – best RT available
round 2 (acquired thru tradeback) – Brandon Weeden
round 3 – ILB (to be the next Riley)
round 3 – Developmental/backup C/G
FA – Starting SS
FA – Starting G
FA – Backup CB
i think we should go for a FA WR
we had had more luck with FA wrs then anything else over the years. and most of our drafted wrs havent been good. i still think we must do what ever it takes to get rg3. him, a good FA WR, and a good O-line guy then we are 10-6 9-7 at worst. when u start getting to those records it wont leave us as a place where people only come to get paid.so it will cost us less to keep our own and to lure others to come here for a chance at a superbowl. its do or die for the shanahan crew… so i think a deal will be made… with a big smile on snyder and every other redskin fans face in a year from now.

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