how long do you give shanahan to turn this around ?
Lets take a look at what he inherited in 2010. First lets start with the defense .
Anthony Carter 30yrs old with Pats . Hurt but was having a great season
Fat AL Fat lazy over weight and over paid bombed with pats and did little in tampa
Griffen and Daniels both out of NFL
LB RAK , LBF both are producing but LBF was 34 . Both have made multiple pro bowls , Rocky is AVG at best and most likely heading to a new team
Dbs , Hall ,big contract feast or famine type , rogers , never played to his draft position , wanted hall money , pro bowler with 49ers LL safety injured most of shanahan's tenure (17 of 32 games ) S Moore , out of NFL
back-ups , jarmon and montgomery out of nfl golston solid back-up but on the fringe, blades , wilson and hensen , out of nfl alexander is our best ST 's player dbs horton , holmes out of nfl , smoot out of nfl . tryon bounced to 2 nfl teams doughty below avg sub , westbrook good ST player maybe a dime back barnes at best a nickel guy but he lost time to westbrook
Of the 14 players to record qa stat in 2009 only 5 are on our current roster
Now the offense
QB JC back-up with raiders , RB CP out of nfl , WR Moss, 30yrs old making 7 mil , ARE out of NFL TE Cooley , good asset
o/line , samuels rabach , thomas , out of NFL , heyer and dockery back-ups with oakland and dallas respectively
now for the depth
qb Todd collins and colt brennan , out of nfl
rb , betts ganther , mason out of nfl , cartwright , special teamer in oak
wr kelly and marko mitchell out of nfl thomas 3 catches in 2 seasons with 2 teams
te , davis now the starter, but has drug issues yoder out of nfl
o/line m williams albright , levi jones, out of nfl , rhino back-up in buffalo
Out of all those guy there are 2 starters , davis , moss, (cooley could be added) The rest will be most likely out of the nfl with in a year
Now add to it the 6 year free agent CBA we played under in year one which made available mostly old stopgaps types . His 1st draft was limited because of previous trades .
In year 2 he had a pretty good draft but no real off season . In free agency they went with signing younger guys to reasonable contracts and i feel they fared better with this approach
So my 2 questions are , How much longer do you go with this approach , and do you think Snyder has changed enough to allow this 5 yr plan to continue ?
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Do you think Snyder has changed enough to allow this 5 yr plan to continue?
Yes. He’s not going to swallow $14mil and hire some guy like Brian Billick. I think Shanny is even safe next year. Whatever QB Shanny goes with, he’s going to be decent enough to win games like Grossman. The bar is set low so Shanny is safe imo.
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Since when does money matter to Snyder - especially $14M?
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Since he had to rip out 10K seats.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
no matter
he’ll just raise the price of beer
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
it all depends on if he drafts a franchise QB
If Rex Grossman plays 13 games for the skins next year, Shanahan will be gone.
by JeanBaptiste on Jan 20, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt Grossman will even be on the roster next year
I mean, why even need a back up when you’re once and future starter is John Beck.
For me it's not a matter of results, I need to see a good young core coming together.
Elite, young, blue chip players.
Shanahan has done a great job changing the culture and forming a plan.
But the drafting needs to back up the hype.
This draft is huge, and the development of young talent (and I’m not talking about Mo Hurt) is paramount.
If we’re in the same position a year from now as we are now, I wouldn’t dream of keeping Shanahan.
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
For me it’s not a matter of results, I need to see a good young core coming together.
What does this mean? How do they come together if there’s no results (ie wins). I want to see someone, I don’t care if its a rookie or FA, WIN A GAME. What DeMarco Murray did his first couple weeks in Dallas, why can’t any of the Redskins 12 draft picks do that? Kerrigan did it week 1, Helu and Royster ran for a 100 yards the hard way….but no explosions here. We always have this “optimistic hope” they turn the corner.
Now if you excuse me, someone pissed in my Kool-Aid. I need to make a new pitcher.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
That post is kind of all over the place.
Why don’t we ever have a rookie who goes nuts like Murray or Cam Newton or someone?
I don’t know, ask Shanny. If you ask me it’s b/c we never have enough blue chip rookies (or the offensive line to let them shine)
What does this mean? How do they come together if there’s no results (ie wins).
You really don’t understand how you can see young players getting better, with future potential, but maybe they don’t get tons of W’s.
Really?
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
You really don’t understand how you can see young players getting better, with future potential, but maybe they don’t get tons of W’s.
I’m tired of that strategy…give me wins already.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
As in, I was fine with that for last year, but I don’t want another year of 6-10 while rookies perform at B-level and we’re right back to “if we have a solid draft next year….”
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well that's what I mean, there's an exciting 6-10, a bad 6-10
and a mediocre 6-10, which is what we showed this year.
We showed young talent, but no rookie who looks like he’s about to take the league by storm.
Especially on offense.
We need to see players like that in 2012.
IF, and that’s a big IF, we do, I’d take another .500 or worse season.
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
We are seeing a good young core coming together
wasn’t that what this year was about? Most of our core is on the defensive side right now (Kerrigan, Orakpo, and Riley are going to be something to build around for our future) and this offseason is dedicated to rebuilding the offense.
We already have some good pieces on that side of the ball(Trent, Helu, Royster, Hankerson), and can’t wait to see what our offense looks like next year. It won’t be a world beater but we’ll see glimpses of the future and we’ll watch them develop and grow together like we did this year. Just a step further
The majority of the rest of our players are young blue chip players that will work their asses off, we might not have any ELITE players but that will change when the wins start coming in. The draft is huge, and we are coming off what looks to be a GREAT draft, don’t lose patience now that we’re actually doing things right. What’s wrong with developing Mo Hurt? Isn’t that what we’re supposed to do? Develop our players and ALL draft picks into the best they can be and not just our first and second rounders? Just because Hurt was a late draft pick means he can’t turn into a stud guard?
I personally love the direction this team is headed and can’t understand your negative perspective of this team.
End of year 4, we should be in the playoffs or contending for a playoff spot in week 17.
That’s how long you give Shanahan
You have to ask yourself...
Are you more comfortable in our team now than pre-Shanny? Are you more comfortable with them lining up against NE, SF and NY…3 of the 4 playoff teams that we either played tough or beat? Your crazy if you think last years team would have done this against those teams. Things are progressing…so we let him coach out his contract and then evaluate.
Estimates without looking it up
Harbaugh Ravens-5+ years
Harbaugh SF-1 year (anomaly)
Belichick-10+ years
Coughlin-6+ years
Notice anything?
by Bryan Black on Jan 20, 2012 2:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Yeah, only one of those guys makes personnel decisions
and his track record has been miserable the last few years.
Are we judging Shanny the coach or Shanny the defacto GM?
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Both because that's the position that he wanted
I don’t think you let the guy go without giving him a chance to bring it together. What would warrant him at this point being replaced? We wanted improvement and youth and although the record tells otherwise this team is better now than it was in the past
by Bryan Black on Jan 20, 2012 2:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I was responding to your examples.
3 of them aren’t GM, and the fourth one looks like a bad one.
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
You don't think that
If John Hardballs wants x player on his team Ozzie doesn’t take his opinion heavily?
Look I know Ozzie is one of the best GMs in football but there’s no way he ke doesn’t listen very strongly to his head coach who he chose.
A fan of losers, Redskins, Wizards, Orioles, Terps, Dale Jr, America
There is no comparison between Shanny's job (final roster say) and a GM who takes his coach's opinion into account.
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I think Shanny is safe for the next two years
I think the plan is a long term plan and Snyder has—even if it’s begrudgingly—made a 5-year commitment to Shanahan.
I think smutsy’s comment with regard to ditching Shanny if we are in the same place next year as we are in now is something to consider, but I am convinced Snyder is—at the bare minimum—committed to being committed right now. He has blitzed through so many regimes that I think he is somewhat compelled to stay the course if for no better reason than he has never done it before.
I am hardpressed to suggest that we have not made any progress under Allen and Shanny. This draft is definitely the big one. But it will be a big one even if we don’t make a splash to get Luck or Griffin. We are going to bring in at least two very solid players no matter what happens.
Three if you count Jarvis Jenkins!
We are going to bring in at least two very solid players no matter what happens.
"By far the worst performers on the (R*dskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
You must be from Missouri!
by Bryan Black on Jan 20, 2012 2:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Haha, my Dad is actually from the Show Me State
I didn’t mean to sound so negative. I’m hoping, like all of you, that Jarvis is going to come back healthy and be an impact player for a number of years, really making our front 7 a force.
But this team needs solutions, not hopes and dreams. So yea, I would like to see it before I count on it being a reality.
I agree with you 100%
I think sometimes JJ gets forgotten about but he is our next highest draft pick other than Kerrigan….and we didn’t get to utilize him. Here’s to hoping that he comes back with some of the flashes he showed early on. I think with en entire year plus of rehab and conditioning he will be stronger and faster than he exhibited in his limited playing time last preseason. Agree with you though that we shouldn’t consider him anointed just yet
by Bryan Black on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I can tell you this:
If Shanahan doesn’t bring in a good QB he will be fired at the end of week 17.
If he gets someone like RG3 and goes 8-8, but the team is exciting, he’s good.
But if he pulls some “I’m staking my reputation” bullshit and farts around with another horrible QB, he’s done.
And for what it’s worth, Rex and Beck are both gone.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Let's hope his rep is not staked upon Flynn
by Bryan Black on Jan 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Flynn is not likely . He'll be in Miami .
The Dolphins are hiring Joe Phillbin as headcoach . He will want to bring in Flynn to run his offense from Green Bay .
It took me all morning and half of the afternoon
To find a reasonable comment or post… thank you
I wanted Matt Moore last year, but we signed Rex again
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you said...
a reasonable comment or post
If that is the guy you want to lead this team, you must hate Shanahan and want him dead…
Come on man
Given a choice between the two, who would you take?
There were not a lot of options last year after the draft
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
come on...
how many more wins would Moore have actually come up with. He would have to have learned the system, which would have been new to him, new terminology, new timing with WRs. He’s not so great that he would have carried us to the playoffs. He had Bush and Marshall in Miami and still could not get them there.
How can you win in a division with New England?
See below for full answer
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
I looked for the answer below...
but I couldn’t find it. Could you guide me or expand on your thought?
Reasonable comment or post?
I will have to read it again but I could swear that you wrote that you want Matt Moore? You can’t be serious. If that was the only option and Jeff George had dropped his comeback desires, then maybe. Otherwise, no.
by Bryan Black on Jan 22, 2012 7:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Bryan, don't read it again, just go and look at the statistics
Matt Moore has a career completion percentage 4% higher than Grossman’s with an almost identical yards per attempt.
Matt Moore as a career quarterback rating of 81, Grossman’s is 71.4.
Matt Moore is 27 years old, Grossman is 31.
I can go on and on but the last thing I will mention is that Matt Moore averages less than one third the turnovers per game than Rex does.
Do you keep an open mind, or do you just see a name and form an opinion?
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Crap, sorry that should read one third less not
Less than one third
touchdown ratio is also identical.
So basically, Matt Moore can push the ball down the field just as effectively as Rex Grossman but with far fewer boneheaded mistakes.
So why is it so crazy to have preferred Matt Moore over Rex Grossman?
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
The Moore comment was originally stated as second option to Flynn
So its basically saying that if you can’t get the “top” (debatable) FA QB then you go and get Matt Moore. Moore is Rex with less turnovers playing on a more talented Miami offense. Don’t be so blind to throw stats up there that I already know without also looking at the scenarios and intangibles. It’s like choosing diet coaches between Kirstie Alley and Oprah Winfrey, sure one might be a bit better than the other but their both gonna end up fat anyway
by Bryan Black on Jan 22, 2012 11:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I wanted Matt Moore LAST year
Go back and read it again… in no way did I ever say I preferred Matt Moore over Matt Flynn… is not even an option because they are not free agents at the same time.
Both you guys are just looking to pick a fight, I can’t discuss a topic with you if you keep spinning off on a tangent.
We are WAY off topic at this point, I’m done
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
'77, there are no hard feelings, here...
but you brought up Matt Moore. You had to know someone would call you out on that proposal…
please consider...
Do you keep an open mind
If you are going to ask us this, you need to consider it yourself…
I'm just glad this is the last time you will mention it...
4%? Really. Rating of 81? Totally average, which is what Grossman is. Let me put it as best as I can -
WE DON’T NEED AVERAGE!
That is all we have had since ’77 (name reference). We need better and Matt Moore is Not Even Close To Being Considered in that category.
If Snyder fires Shanny out of nowhere, no decent coach will ever come to D.C. Enough players from previous regimes are spread out to tell coaches first-hand of our dysfunction. We, including Snyder, are going down with the ship through year 5.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that's true
Norv Turner is still coaching in SD because there are no better options. If we fire a head coach of Mike Shanahans caliber w/o giving him a fair chance at success, you will not see the better head coaching prospects wanting anything to do with this organization. None of the top guys wants to be “Schottenheimered”. Coaches often get one shot at becoming a HC, they want to use that shot at an organization that gives them a chance to succeed.
I understand that, but there are other things we should look at.
Like Shanny’s player selection. Perhaps he had a conversation with Snyder along the lines of, “Look, we will have to ride this year out with Rex and it will be horrible…..” last season.
Then tells the fans he’s staking his reputation and all that jazz.
If you are a head coach, with an owner who opens his wallet like Kim Kardashian opens her legs for NBA players, and you can’t win more than six games after year three….Well, then when?
How many mulligans does he get? McNabb, oops. Grossman and Beck, utter failure.
He’s got to improve this season.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
I'm with you brother,
but a HC of his standing & with our FOs past history…..I think we have to give him 4 to 5 years before we shit-can him (if we do which i hope we don’t). I wish we would have gone with Gregg Williams but that’s water under the bridge
H8 is right
Another losing season and he is done unless he gets a very promising quarterback that shows improvement throughout next year.
Because it next year is like this year was, there will be nobody but opposing fans in FedEx (and they won’t buy beer)
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
This season was improvement though
Record didn’t show it but the team was far more competitive than last year. Next year will have to be 8-8 to be totally safe for the 5th. Joe Gibba still maintains contact so I am sure he is helping to consult Dan on what to do…probably the only person who he actually listens to
by Bryan Black on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Did you see the schedule for next year yet?
8-8 will be one whale of a coaching job (and GM job)
the Redskins will still lack serious depth even if they don’t trade up… next year’s schedule could easily result in only five wins
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
The schedule strenght can't be evaluated accurately in January
We all, I’m sure, before last year thought Buffalo, Carolina and SF would be easy but they weren’t
by Bryan Black on Jan 22, 2012 7:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
True
But I do think you could make a generalization that next year’s schedule is almost certainly stronger than this year’s.
I am not trying to pick out exactly where the wins and losses will occur, just gauging this organization’s strengh versus the NFL as a whole
(which is what I almost always do)
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
As a generalization yes
Free agency, with all of the 1yr deals signed last year, and the draft will factor a lot into what teams get better and who falls behind
by Bryan Black on Jan 22, 2012 11:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
everyone makes errors in judgement
Dmac was shanahan’s
however , who would you have brought in to qb us last season ? last hurry up with little free agency off season ?
Mike Shanahan is no where near being on the hot seat
If Vinny “dumbass” Cerrato got ten years, then MS will have a century. Realistically I think that he would begin to feel some heat after two more losing years & might be in real danger of losing his job after three. I don’t think that it will be an issue, we are at rock bottom & after we get a QB (either by trading up,staying put, trading down or thru FA) we will begin to get better.
Let's say that they regress again and go 4-12 ??
you can not think that Shanny and Son will still be employed. that will be 3 straight double digit loss years. Even if the go 5-11 next year i feel like he will be fired. And he know that. you are what your record says you are.
Shanahan stays as long
Shanahan stays after year 3 as long as he does something about the QB position this off-season and the team record improves a bit next year. Year 3 needs to have the personnel in place to make a playoff run in year 4. If year 4 is a bust, Shanahan is gone.
if he go get Matt Flynn and they still only win 5 or 6 wins i think he is done
But if he trade up to get either Luck or RG3 then i think that will buy him another season no matter the win/lose record, the Panthers only won 6 games this year but they can see the potential with Cam Newton at QB, it just would buy him time to get things right.
We know for sure there is no way he goes into year 5 as a lame-duck with 4 years of losing seasons so winning in the next two years is essential.
I’m not sure how anyone can believe he is completely safe if they have another mediocre double digit loss season without any hope at QB (if they have a young top pick QB playing then he would likely survive this event).
If Shanny somehow has the arrogance to use Grossman again next year then I predict you will see him fired at the end of another mediocre season.
If he is going out in the next two years (the likely event because the odds are against the Skins winning consistently enough), I hope he at least goes down taking a different shot at improving the terrible QB play.
This off-season will be the key in shaping the Shanny era endgame.
Not this stupid discussion again
Shanny gets all 5 years even if he goes 4-12 over the next two. This is not about football anymore. It’s Dan Snyder declaring and proving that he will, henceforth, give every Redskins coach a fair shake. Of he doesn’t prove he’s patient, no coach will ever come here with more than a 2 year plan. At that point we might as well rehire Vinny as GM.
by horatius on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
if they somehow dont get a young QB in here and they go 4-12 then that is the end of shanny and son.
Well then, Shanahan and son only have a 50-50 shot
Because unless they sign on entire team of free agents on offense, the Redskins could get destroyed by next year’s schedule with only a couple of injuries.
My educated guess is six–10 at best right now
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
isn't it a little TOO EARLY to make predictions...
especially, since you haven’t seen one FA signed or one player drafted…
Come on, man!
How many mock drafts have we seen already?
Did you decide to become a troll today?
I did qualify the statement in the present, that implies it will change after the draft and free agency.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
maybe I should just take exception to your comment...
they sign on entire team of free agents on offense
statements such as this expose people for how ridiculous their thinking really is. If we signed an OL or two, perhaps WR in the draft / FA, that right there is a dramatic difference. The QB will be the final piece. Will these changes make a difference in the win/loss column, WHO KNOWS.
Everyone here at times has made over the top statements
Doesn’t mean that they’re thinking is ridiculous. By that measure, everyone here including the managers and editor would be certifiably insane.
"If we signed an OL or two, perhaps WR in the draft / FA,"… isn’t this exactly what we did this season? To be fair though, the exact same thing may have different results next season.
I agree that the best bang for the buck would be to upgrade the quarterback position, but there is no guaranteed way to do that.
Will changes in the roster made any difference in wins and losses? Hard to prove… there are lots of moving pieces to the NFL, hard to say that any one aspect has more effect than any other.
Lastly, "who knows"… exactly, so why are you calling me out? Highspeed’s original comment is what I expanded upon… why are you trying to take it somewhere else?
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, you are correct...
everyone here including the managers and editor would be certifiably insane.
Not “would be” but IS…
If guarantees are what you are looking for, you could look all day, you’re not going to find any. So, how can we make any assumption on our record next year, based on our schedule, especially before FA and the draft. That is what I was taking exception to.
Not really an assumption…
Just a reasonable guess based on overall strength of the franchises…believe me, I probably know more than most that there are no guarantees in life, or anything else
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 22, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
First - don't start your article with "Anthony Carter" - It's Andre Carter
But on Shanahan, I think that if he does not get a decent QB – either draft or FA – and has another bad season – he would be fired. Getting any solid or promising QB would undoubtedly get him another year, even if the guy was a bust. Columnist Mike Wise speculated that if the Skins weren’t at least in the playoff race in December, he would be fired. I might alter that to “make the playoffs”, but subject to the QB situation.
id let him ride it out
By the Redskins record ,we dont look like a promising team.But ,we are getting younger and more athletic.The absolute weakest position on this team should be the most important.I think he knows,but is having a hard time improving the QB.None worth it in the draft last year,and no QB wants to come here..So i would say he and Allen decided to fill all the holes they could last year.
when you do a trade down
typically you are looking for solid players and not "wow guys "
if you look at the roster turnover and the fact that there wasnt a qb we liked for the taking then i think we did decently
i think we got 3-4 starters and some good depth
but we still need a "wow " guy
When his contract is up
his first year was an evaluation to see who he wanted to keep and who he wanted to get rid of.His second year was to rebuild the defense. His third year will be used to rebuild the offense. And the last two years will be used to bring all that talent together and start winning.
he got 2 more years imo
maybe 1 if the team starts off bad . and doesnt at least go on a good 4 game winning streak to end the year with the rookie qb at the helm.
He's flunked in...
Despite his numerous bad personnel decisions (the Campbell and Carter giveaways, McNabb, Fat Albert, drafting Dopey (aka Trent Williams)), not to mention his arrogance, Shanny’s not getting fired if next year is another clunker.
There needs to be some stability to see if this franchise can be turned around. I think even Snyder knows this now. I’m not saying Shanahan doesn’t deserve to be fired and I’m not sure he’ll get the job done. But I do think Shanahan gets at least two more years. This team lacks talent, has no QB, has no explosive players, and needs to improve its depth. We need at least two more good drafts to improve our talent base.
So even if 2012 is a another losing record, Shanahan probably stays. A new coach would mean more turmoil, more roster turnover, new systems that would take time to put in place….you know the drill.
We’re like a couple that wants to get divorced but their house is underwater…Redskin fans and the Shanahans are stuck with each other until the end. Whatever and whenever that is.























