RG3 Set to Join the Draft (Again)
by Parks Smith on Jan 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST
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PrintChris Mortensen reported a couple weeks ago that Baylor's Robert Griffin III would enter the draft. Today, Mort once again reported that RG3 is about to make things official:
No surprise: Baylor QB Robert Griffin III is informing Baylor coach Art Briles today he is turning pro, per family source.
Griffin is expected to be the second quarterback taken in April's draft behind Andrew Luck, and is thought to be a prime target for the Redskins. He is coming off a 24 for 33, 295 yard, 1 TD performance in a win over Washington in the Valero Alamo Bowl. This also likely ends Griffin's quest of competing in the 2012 Olympic games.
The deadline for prospects to officially declare is this Sunday.
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Off topic: But Tannehill might need to miss the Senior Bowl
apparently he suffered a foot injury and might need to skip the Senior Bowl http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=5606
I wouldn’t be shocked to see him still attend so he can talk to some of the staffs.
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Yea it doesn't sound good in terms of him playing at all.
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The NFLPA game is getting some better names than I expected
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did you see Vonnie Holliday is going to be one of the coaches?
Also Jared Green (Darrell’s son) got an invite.
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Here is the Senior Bowl roster so far (confirmed players though they still have Tannehill and Toon listed)
http://www.seniorbowl.com/announced.asp
what i was talking about is the NFLPA game which will have some juniors (again not everyone confirmed yet):
http://www.homedepotcenter.com/contentright.php?page=event_detail&event_id=2940
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haha no prob
yeah i’m not even used to seeing it
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Yea I did, that bastard still owes me a jersey for the Bamboozle Bowl
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Ha, I love how any QB option outside of RG3 is now seen as scrapping the bottom of the talent barrel
I hope Shanny and Bruce won’t have such a narrow-minded approach to our draft in 2012
by StephanHart on Jan 10, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HA back to you.
I’m glad you think you’re so prudent in your draft choices. Because we’re going balls to the wall for Griffin.
HA
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Can we all please have video proof?
Or some sort of bet that gives you a vow of silence for the season or something?
We can work something out.
But nobody on here wants me silenced.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
he's kind of like white noise already
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You could just make some ridiculous bet that only iH8 would accept
and then once he inevitably loses, ban him (as was the case earlier this year when he lost a bet)
It's not a compliment just more an appreciation for the village idiot kind of thing
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hahahahahaha
"You can build a million bridges, suck one dick, you're not a bridgebuilder you are a cocksucker." - - Woody Harrelson
I had a dream last night
That we traded back and still got RGIII at the #10 spot. Not sure where that came from, but it was sweet.
I had a dream last night, and Ken was there... o nevermind
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Thats why its called a dream
MLK had a dream once it took years for it to take place,
I’m guessing within the next 20 years we’ll have a top 10 pick and move back and pick up a guy named griffin…but not RG3
Counting cards isn't illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane.
Technically we alread have RG3, Rex Grossman III, dead serious, look it up
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maybe thats an omen
Counting cards isn't illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane.
Two RG3s don't make a right
Three rights make a left
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*facepalm
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by Ronnie Adkins on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
*already
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I love the comparison of MLK's dream and our dreams as Redskins fans
hilarious
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
You mean the civil rights movement and the Redskins QB aren't comparable?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Redskin fans have been written a bad check!
"You can build a million bridges, suck one dick, you're not a bridgebuilder you are a cocksucker." - - Woody Harrelson
thanks Vonnie
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by irishgoon on Jan 10, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If he's sitting there at 6 take him!!!
"And you can pass it to someone you never met, and let 'em get as high as you...you're eyes red as sh*t, mine too"
Yeah. But the question is....
Do you move up to get him, in case he isn’t there?
Do you draft at #6 if he isn’t there (and who, if so) or trade back (and with whom)?
And if you don’t get him at #6, who is going to be quarterbacking? Tannenhill? Foles? Weeden? Favre? Jurgenson?
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No one knows what it is yet though, Pauline said it was significan foot injury while training
That could be interpreted as anything. Significant could be looked at as just missing Senior Bowl, which in the grand scheme of things may not effect Tannehill’s stock yet. We need to know what the injury is before we can say he is going to plummet DaQuan Bowers style
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I agree with you, but for the sake of argument...
He was “soaring up draft boards” due to the lack of QB’s declaring this year, all of this without a single combine throw or interview, then why can’t he drop like a rock the same way?
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well he's going to miss the Senior Bowl, but I'd guess the Combine is still a possibility (though he might not run)
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Which didn't hurt Cam or Gabbert last year. (missing certain events)
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Sam Bradford missed nearly all of his junior year and the combine and still went 1st overall
I think this only hurts Tannehill’s ability to crack the first round, and maybe have Foles pass him. He’s still a very good 2nd round prospect.
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Foles was going to pass him anyways....
I might be overly supportive of him, but he is going to be one of those QB’s who can move the chains. Foles reminds me a bit of Big Ben.
i like Foles
but i really think Tannehill was going to shine at the Senior Bowl
I’m still excited to see the rest of the guys though and now Lindley is going to replace Tannehill
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it hurts him no doubt
but remember last year Julio Jones needed to have foot surgery after the combine…didn’t really affect his stock too much
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but didn't Julio put up amazing numbers during his pro day...
with the foot injury. If he can do that hurt, they were drooling for what he could do in mint health
he did but my point was he needed surgery which is always a risk
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Blackman is big and makes plays in the redzone
I wouldn’t mind seeing him in the DC, assuming RGIII is gone and the trade back offers aren’t overwhelmingly appealing.
Blackmon makes plays at all times on offense.
It’s really fun to watch him control the game while driving down the field. He doesn’t have Calvin johnson talent, but his NFL production is going to be off the charts.
He would be a great pickup, assuming we can’t get Robert Griffin.
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At this point
I’m not one of the “Give whatever it takes to trade up” to get him.
I want him here, but not at the cost of the continued rebuild. If he’s sitting there at 6 take him, if not trade down.
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by CptChaosSidekick on Jan 10, 2012 3:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
TMI, dude, TMI
Even Parks would have to think that’s over the top.
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Oh, good !
Now we just have to trade up to #2 instead of #1 to get a decent QB this draft.
Before this bit, I was suddenly flashing to what next year's crop would look like.
RG3, Barkley, Landry Jones, Bray, Osweiler, Klein, Wilson, Teul, Aaron Murray, Geno Smith, Darron Thomas, and Jordan Rodgers (Aaron’s baby brother).
Not necessarily in that order, but at least five or six first rounders, possibly, and a couple more seconds.
Of course, by the end of next season, some of these guys could be UDFA material, and someone I never heard of could be a top 10 guy, or there could be further underclassmen in the mix, but still……
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Two mocks on CBS Sports have us taking CB.
Dumbest thing ever.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
smartest thing ever
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I think you're lightheaded from blowing on that harmonica too hard
CB is every bit worth a top pick.
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If we have to pick at 6, and I hope we don't, then the Best Player Available might very well be...
a corner. I would be okay with taking the Best Offensive Tackle Available, but if we have to pick at 6, we have to be prepared to consider one of the top CB’s. I guarantee you that player would start for us.
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Putting Hall in the Nickle slot would be ideal.
Having him as our #1 CB is a liability anymore. Personally, I would use the 2013 First round pick on a corner. I think therre are better uses of our first rounder this year.
You know you can have three good corners? See Philadelphia Eagles
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See them with a good DC, not with that Castillo guy, they were garbage most of the year.
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Not really, Castillo misused them. We'll see what they get if they trade Samuels.
Drafting a third corner opens up options, not eliminates them
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I agree
Bad example in the sense that they didn’t see much tangible production from their star group of corners. I agree, better coaching and that crop of players will prove your point why a team needs to ideally have three good corners.
The wildcard is DHall just being a total deusch if he plays 2nd fiddle
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Speaking of tantrums, Tiller has been MIA since the PSU hire
I’m starting to get worried
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at least Luck is safe...
I thought Tiller might go Tonya Harding on Luck and Griffin to make Jones be a top 10 pick if he would have declared
haha
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Now you're asking the right question!
You would likely be looking at Hall, Wilson and the rookie sorting it out.
Remember, we had Deion, Champ and Darrell all in the same secondary. There is room for a third guy back there.
It would seem like we have bigger needs than a corner, but if there is an elite guy there at 6, we might have to take him.
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
releasing Hall saves us $6.5 million in cap room this year, and over $8 million next year
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 10, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we only really save that much if...
macho harris replaces him. I guess we could come close to Brent Grimes for that money
that's very true, but at least he is someone we can cut if need be
and as you said it can be spent on a big name player.
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Would you be willing to bring Rodgers back?
ha, i don’t think he would be up for it, but i think he only signed a one year deal
i would, i don't think Shanny will and pretty much guarantee he won't
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For all of those anti-trade ups. What if.....
Philbin end up in Miami and Flynn goes there or Cleveland snatches hip up.
Orton stays in Kansas City
Tannehill’s foot injury limits him through the Senior Bowl and the Combine
Then would your perspective on trading up for RGIII change? I ask because I think there is a stubbornness to the idea of trading up for RGIII. Every option under the sun has been conjured up from Free Agent options to lower quality QB’s to old QB’s (Weeden) to waiting until next year. What if this team gets to the playoffs next year? Will the trade up folks still feel the same way about trading up for Barkley, Wilson, or Jones?
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They still have Cassell in KC.
Flynn and RG3 are the two QBs that Cleveland and Washington will have to go for.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Word on the street today is that Cleveland wants Kolb.
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It was in several places today, here is one:
http://tracking.si.com/2012/01/10/report-browns-may-have-interest-in-kevin-kolb/
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The interesting wrinkle is the Cardinals "interest" in Peyton Manning, which NBC was reporting Saturday night
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Well now we know he is
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By that logic...we're DEFINITELY NOT drafting Robert Griffin.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
You've already put your thoughts and energy out in the universe, its too late
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Interesting. I didn't follow the Cards that closely...
Was Kolb that bad that they feel that can let him go after on year? Alternatively, is Skelton that good that they feel they can trade Kolb?
It's more that Kolb hasn't lived up to the contract
Cards owe Kolb a $7 mil roster bonus in March, so they may try to trade him or dump him beforehand
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If I'm Flynn, Washington is NOT an option.
If I go to Miami I have Brandon Marshall and Reggie Bush on a team that could have made the playoffs this year.
Or
I could go to Cleveland who has two picks in the 1st Round in order to get me a stub WR and possibly another offensive weapon.
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He will go to whoever offers him the most money.
Of those options you presented, he will definitely go to whoever offers him the most money. I hope it’s the Browns, but it is way too soon to tell.
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What about Flynn going to Oakland. The GM they just hired was a FO guy from Green Bay.
He’s obviously clearing house in Oakland and I don’t think Carson Palmer’s job is that safe.
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that could be true
plus you know campbell will be pissed they gave up a 1st rounder to get palmer to replace him for a few months. so he also has to think his raider days are over
by munson21502 on Jan 10, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
firing Hugh Jackson is one thing
but for Bengals to dump Palmer after paying so much for him would be a shock. He’s still got like $5 million guaranteed for next year, so unless some team made a significant trade offer (Seattle and Carroll??) I don’t see it.
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by Steve Shoup on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think they are cleaning house, cutting their losses no matter what
Faster you can tear it down the faster you can build it.
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I'm a trade down guy
I am happy to gamble on a qb at the bottom of the first or top of the second. It will cost us too much to move up.
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's too much IF he busts
But if he become Drew Brees 2.0, then it’s a cheap offering to trade up for what he will command in the draft this year.
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It won't be cheap...that's the problem
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think the Giants mind what they paid for Eli?
When was the last trade up for a QB that bombed outside of Jason Campbell?
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Kyle Boller comes to mind...
Though I forget what it actually cost the Ravens.
Let me say that I think RG3 will be good in the NFL. I just don’t think we can afford it.
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
And Neither of those guys were the type of NFL QB prospect that RGIII is. Next?
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Not sure what point of yours was proven there...
hahaha…I was saying that we, the Redskins, can not afford to trade away blue-chip starters…it could cost us two or three potential Pro Bowlers.
Also, Kyle Boller and Mark Sanchez were very highly thought of…Sanchez was a very prized prospect. So wouldn’t that make you more weary instead of less weary?
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
What pro bowlers are we talking about?
The Chargers got several picks and the Giants got Eli. The Giants won the super bowl off the strength of their D and QB play. I’ll take that. Boller and Sanchez were nowhere near the prospects RGIII is. You can’t give me one example of an equal to near equal prospect that was trade up for that ended up being a bad trade for the team pursuing the QB. RGIII> Boller & Sanchez in college. If RGIII reaches his full potential the trade up IS worth it. You only concern is what if he doesn’t and you can’t draft like that. IMO
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no the Giants won the SB off the strength of their D and running back play
Eli’s 73.5 QB rating that year ranked 25th in the league.
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More importantly...during that 2007 Playoff run....
61.3 comp pct.
854 yards
QB RTG 95.7
6TD 1Int
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there's no doubt that he played his best football in the playoffs
my point was they weren’t ‘carried’ by Eli
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we need to forget about the word probowlers for a while ken...
i mean we had a LB that lead the nfl in tackels and a guy who was hurt beat him out…. that very same person said it him self. if the team doesnt win then i dont get votes there is nothing i can do about it. but play my best to help this team win. and we will never be a winner with sub par qbs. and a top notch qb like griffen or luck could put this team on the right track quiker with their talent by helping others by taking the pressure off them. if rg3 and our running game can draw in the defenses our wrs are gonna be wide open. then the next year you will start to see FA wrs start to want to come to DC to win or to get big yardage . so they will come here for less instead of the big buck pay checks like that has happened in the past. this team needs hope and i think we must and will take that chance this year to get it.
by munson21502 on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
to answer your hypothetical, no it doesn't change my stance
I’d still consider Tannehill (I’m sure he’ll still have a pre draft workout), Foles or Weeden, with stopgaps like Stanton, Orton etc.
While the hypothetical isn’t as rosy, it would also potentially increase the demand for an RGIII trade, increasing his price tag.
As for next year, if we are wanting to trade up for a QB, then its likely we didn’t make the playoffs. But even if by some miracle we did, i’d be more okay with it (of course depending on the price tag) since we should be a more established team.
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If I'm Flynn, Washington is NOT an option.
If I go to Miami I have Brandon Marshall and Reggie Bush on a team that could have made the playoffs this year.
Or
I could go to Cleveland who has two picks in the 1st Round in order to get me a stub WR and possibly another offensive weapon.
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Is Flynn really an upgrade over Moore though?
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Good point, I don't see Philbin being the choice there. They are trying to make a splash.
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haha I don't agree with the hire, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Apparently it’s Ireland vs. Peterson down their and they are both interviewing and presenting separate candidates. The thought is whomever’s candidate gets hired then they are in-charge of personnel.
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also with Philbin's recent tragedy i'd be a bit shocked if he even considers pursuing a HC job right now
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I was thinking the same thing
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If I'm Flynn, I'm going to VEGAS!!!
Flynn is no slam dunk for the Skins…he would not be surrounded at all by even a fraction of the talent they have in Green Bay. I would rather take Tannehill and Kellen Moore and let them compete for Rexy’s job.
by Ken Meringolo on Jan 10, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Mark my words, Flynn isn't good at football
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As much as I hate to write this,
Who are the Redskins going to draft since you nailed it last year Parks.
Inquiring minds want to know
Man I've been wanting to take stone, cold stab like I did last year with Kerrigan, but I'm having trouble this year.
I’m going to go with Dre Kirkpatrick. Shanny coaching the Senior Bowl team is the wild-card this year though, but Haslett has been harping on the secondary and I think we go with who is left out of Kirkpatrick or Claiborn. So it’s Dre Kirkpatrick and I’m sticking to it!
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I don't see how they could go defense in the first round
unless rocky, london and landry are all gone
I'm gonnna say
a WR is going to blow up at the combine and that’s who we take with our pick if we stay at #6
it's an important pick...
I honestly think we’re going to get a playmaking wide receiver in free agency, either VJax or Dbowe (better than Tebow)….WR is a luxury in the draft. I also think we’ll add a guard in free agency which would make us a stronger team in the draft using the first two picks on QB and OT
As much as I want a QB
Part of me thinks that the Shanahans’ egos are too large and they still think they can win with Rex. I can see them rolling with Rex, drafting some weapons on offense, and taking a developmental QB in the 3rd or 4th round.
they might think that now....
but when they sit in a room and start to evaluate film of a player who has been in the league for nine years….those 21 turnovers are going to give them ulcers
Will it be good for Shanny's ego if Snyder cans him midseason?
If Rex plays a game that will happen.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 10, 2012 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm waiting with bated breath
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Gut feeling
They trade back and pick David Decastro, if they stand pat it’ll be Kirkpatrick. Though I’m not that high on him.
Also think there’s a chance RGIII will be at #6, depending on the off season of course.
by 2up2down on Jan 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
DeCastro was my 2nd choice that was running through my head.
My gut is fighting between Kirkpatrick and DeCastro. But I’ll stick with Kirkpatrick all the way until April 19
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We're not saying at 6, just saying the player we will end up with.
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So answer me this....how many of the anti-trade up folks were win no matter what fans during the season?
I only ask because there seems to be a lot of “f*ck draft picks” folks who care a WHOLE LOT about trading those same draft picks away for a QB who would help the team win.
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I am "anti trade up" and was a "win no matter what" guy
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Seems a bit incongruous.
I don’t think you would argue that the Redskins need a QB, I also don’t think you would argue that RGIII is the 2nd best QB in the draft. So where does the “win no matter what” come into play?
In free agency THIS year you can find: CB, WR, G, S
And they are all proven players who are known commodities. However, the most important position of need is not available with franchise guy potential, but there is one of those in the draft. So again, if it’s win at all costs, why not go after the biggest position of need that is not available in free agency and pay whatever the cost to do so? You think a win boosts moral and inspires winning, what do you think having RGIII under center would do for moral and inspiring winning attitudes?
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How is it incongruous?
I’m a Redskins fan I want my team to win every game, I don’t believe in tanking. I also don’t believe we should trade future resources and assets to reach for a QB. It’s a complete philosophy, I can see the forest. The difference is people think we need an “elite” QB, which is completely false, we just need a good QB to be successful and you don’t have to pay out the nose for one of those prospects in the draft. I’d rather have a good QB with a good supporting cast, which you establish through the draft, than an elite QB with a weak supporting cast.
In free agency THIS year you can find: CB, WR, G, S
And they are all proven players who are known commodities
You’re right you can absolutely find guys via FA this year, and everyone lists the top guys on their wish list and pencil them in to join the Redskins. But my question is, why the hell would the top FAs want to come here. Also the list will look dramatically different once teams have re-signed players. There are two solid guards available via FA then the list drops off the map to depth guys. You build you team through the draft and supplement it with free agency, not the other way around.
So again, if it’s win at all costs, why not go after the biggest position of need that is not available in free agency and pay whatever the cost to do so?
Who said it was win at all costs? That’s the Snyder/Cerrato 2000s model and where did that get us? It’s building a winner for the sustainable future during the offseason and rooting for that project and wanting them to win once the are on the field.
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Please define success
The difference is people think we need an "elite" QB, which is completely false, we just need a good QB to be successful
4 of the 8 teams left in the playoffs don't have an "elite" QB
I’d consider competing for the Super Bowl to be a success
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by Parks Smith on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I was indifferent with the Redskins winning each week
sure I wanted it to happen, and was always happy to give advice on how that could occur (i.e. not playing Jamaal Brown or Torain, cutting Banks, etc.), but I wasn’t going to say ‘win no matter what’. In fact I’d argue that we had too much of that mentality this year as we were too hesitant to involve some of our rookies and young guys early on (or earlier on). Also I was hoping we’d maybe try to poach some young talent off other practice squads as opposed to bringing in veterans, or even trade away guys (Landry, Davis, Carriker etc.) who might not be part of this team long term.
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I was definitely play every game to "win" fan this year...
and I’m willing to trade up for Luck…but not Griffin.
RG3 is going to whatever team ponies up for the #2 overall pick.
If you want RG3 then that is what you’re advocating.
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by Copious 1 on Jan 10, 2012 8:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is there something about the Skins that some of you don't understand.
Mike Shanahan is one of (if not the) highest paid coaches in the NFL.
The second most expensive football team in the universe is under his control.
Mike can either grab RG3 this year or get a pinkslip shoved in his red face.
He will not be able, in any possible way, to explain not getting a franchise QB. I’m not talking about a sit for 8 games until we’re ready for you rookie. We need a day one Cam Newton type that steps on the field and fingerbangs the league.
If Shanahan drafts a guard, or a corner or something stupid like that he’s gone.
He has left himself no choice other than drafting Griffin.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
What coach loses 21 games in two seasons and gets some kind of "genius pass?"
What does he have to lose. Spend the draft picks to get Griffin. If you don’t you’re getting canned anyway.
I don’t want to see it happen but it will.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 10, 2012 9:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am for getting RG3 if he falls at 6 or doesn't cost too much to trade u and get but
he is not the only choice. He isn’t guaranteed to be elite so trading many draft picks away for him could turn out to be great or very bad. And why is drafting a guard or corner stupid. Are they not important positions on a team? Could the Redskins use improvements in these positions? I don’t understand the logic in RG3 or the Skins are done.
by The Red End on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Please walk me through how you plan to acquire a QB otherwise
not that you are wrong…but I am interested in everyone who thinks Shanahan won’t get his QB now thinks he will go about.
Remember…there are 31 other teams…
I have no problem trying to get RG3 but
Flynn or one of the other college QBs could be really good too. Not saying they definitely are but how can you say I know for sure they are trash and RG3 is the only great one. I hope the Skins have a chance for RG3 but if he isn’t available then there are other options.
by The Red End on Jan 10, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
For the love of God Flynn isn’t even as good as Rex Grossman. Rex is an above average QB that took the Bears on a playoff run and almost won it all. I don’t even want Rex to be our QB but for the love of God stop with this Flynn crap. H’es a BUST and a wasted hit to our salary cap.
and i said this where?
but how can you say I know for sure they are trash and RG3 is the only great one
another chance…would you like to respond to the question asked above? What is the plan for acquiring Flynn or drafting another QB? Remember…there are 31 other teams…
What is the plan Stan?
My plan
Try to get RG3 at 6. If that doesn’t work then hopefully get Foles in 2nd. And do you think if the Redskins don’t get RG3 then any other QB wouldn’t work?
If the Skins' want to trade for #2
…why not trade for #1. Not sure there will be much difference even with Indy needing a QB. St. Louis will be ready to forcibly violate someone. I think they have to put in a massive play for #1 as well if they are willing to pull the trigger at #2.
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by TheSportsManager on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I like your thought process.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
by iH8dallas on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There is something about draft prospects your don't understand
They aren’t a sure thing, and you’re acting as if RG3 is a sure thing as a “franchise” QB
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Are you understanding that the picks we trade to move up could be bust?
Enough of this! I do not want to see a new regime in 2013. We have to draft RG3 or Shannahan better bring that QB guru genius out of his ass and find us a QB who can lead our team for the next decade. Most of our needs can be met in FA… people who think we should be drafting a WR at #6 should be shot in the face. Our options are rapidly depleting. Moving up for Griffin is well worth the risk.
Ante in or Anti-up: Choose wisely.
It’s a scary leap of faith. Every year I hear the likes of, “Jimmy Clausen is the most NFL ready QB available” or Leinart, Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez, Smith, and Russel are, “clearly the face of a franchise.” I’m not sure any top QB draftee has had such an immediate impact by going deep into the playoffs. It seems most likely they are beaten into mediocrity by a failing support structure. I’m leaning anti-trade up thus far before FA. Our D is still far from SB caliber too and giving up so many picks gives me of that beer vomit taste of yesteryear.
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by TheSportsManager on Jan 11, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
i dont care who we get as long as i dont have to hear
the redskins are done they dont have a chance because its just a matter of time before bad rex shows up.
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