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Ten Yard Fight: Time for Redskins Fans to Pack Away Their Negativity and Pessimism for the Winter

1. We are a resilient bunch. I've said it before and I'll say it again: a lesser fanbase would have never gotten off the mat so many times just to get knocked back down. The hope we all felt at the end of Marty Schottenheimer's first year was dashed when Snyder and Cerrato took the reins away from him. Spurrier's failure to protect the quarterback left us all on our backs. When Joe Gibbs returned for a second tour of duty, we realized how desperate we had become. Despite the fact that Gibbs II was not as legendary as Gibbs I, we still had a figure on the sidelines that we loved and trusted. When he gave way for Jim Zorn, the franchise was on slightly firmer ground, but our collective psyche was immediately as fragile as it had been before Gibbs returned. And by the time Jim Zorn was jerked around for the world to see before being replaced by Shanahan, our fanbase was as distressed as today's housing market. Poor placekicking punched us in the gut. Inadequate quarterback play drained us of all confidence. The untimely and tragic death of Sean Taylor pierced our hearts. We have been through a lot over what seems like a very long decade. We stuck together through it all. There is NO REASON that I can see why we shouldn't consider ourselves a fortunate, unified bunch going into the 2011 campaign. We have a lot to be thankful for and we have plenty to remain upbeat about...even if that means turning a bit of a blind eye to things we can't change.

2. It doesn't matter what we think about Dan Snyder. We don't wear Snyder jerseys. We don't cheer for the owner on Sundays. We have zero control over who owns this team. The guys in helmets and shoulder pads are the ones we support. Snyder was a major topic on this site over the last three or four years, but has been less so since Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen rode into town. That is both a good sign as well as a great development for our morale--beating up the Snyder horse brings us all down.

3. They say hope springs eternal in September in the NFL. Every fanbase in the league has a team that is alive and kicking today--including us. The days of us feeling foolish for suggesting that we "have a chance" at the outset of the season are behind us thanks to Shanahan and Allen. Believe this: we do have a chance.

4. Our coaching staff is as good as we have had it under Snyder. Did you guys notice how few penalties our team committed this preseason? I don't have the exact stat handy, but especially when our starters were on the field, we did not see an abundance of yellow hankies on the field. I think we all got the sense that not only have players bought into Mike Shanahan, they have bought into their position coaches. Discipline and efficiency were the biggest stars in August for the Redskins.

Star-divide

5. With all respect to Joe Gibbs, the job done by Shanahan in turning over this roster before his second season began represents the best front office/head coaching job we have seen since the days when we were winning Super Bowls. Only 15 guys remain from when he took over. The players that have been brought in have been brought in with a purpose. The players that have been brought in have been identified as hard working, high character individuals that put the team and their teammates first. The group that takes the field on Sunday will be one that we can take a great deal of pride in.

6. In past years, I have suggested that a team like ours was capable of being "that team" that comes out of nowhere to stun the league and challenge for a playoff spot. My logic was: "Somebody has to be that team...why not us?" Pretty sound reasoning, right? This year, I look at this squad and think that just closing our eyes and hoping for a miracle is unnecessary. I maintain that we are not on the same level--today--as the top dogs in the NFL: Pittsburgh, Green Bay, New England, etc. We need another couple drafts to really start to approach that class of franchise. That said, we ARE in a place where we can compete week in and week out for wins against good teams. The difference between the Redskins and these other powerhouse teams in recent years has been talent, coaching, youth, experience and discipline...to name but a few of the major points. We are bridging these gaps even as we speak. The major difference between the Redskins and the upper echelon of the NFL at this stage of our development comes down to the mistakes and inuries we can and can not afford to have. Green Bay proved last year how they were built to handle losing key players and even how they were sound enough to recover from losses to teams like...well, us. The 2011 Washington Redskins are not built to withstand a rash of injuries or a bout of undisciplined football. And to be sure...we will need every win within our grasp to have even a chance to make noise in December or January.

7. Part of the benefit of Shanny's roster upheaval stems from having the institutional memory of our team being wiped clean to some extent. We had FIRMLY established a culture of losing and mediocrity. We were bringing in the wrong kind of players, and the situation really snowballed. This current group is far less tied to that culture. In fact, it would be fair to point out that Shanahan has succeeded in establishing an environment to breed a new culture. No, he has not single-handedly changed our fortunes. No, a new culture of winning has not been created. But he has made it possible for this organization to shake loose from the craptacular bonds of our recent past.

8. I need to be careful not to draw too many parallels to our Super Bowl teams...but Doug Williams was no savior out of training camp. Neither was Mark Rypien. When they were given their chance, they excelled at a ridiculously high level, but you could say it was because they were surrounded by other players who really made it possible for them to succeed. Nobody is preparing a bust in Canton for Rex Grossman, but he is capable of operating efficiently in this system and paving the way for others to shine. You could argue that Rex Grossman fits the mold of our past Super Bowl heroes in that he is unheralded, has not been handed anything and enjoys the confidence of the coaches and his teammates.

9. Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman, Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Patrick Ramsey, Mark Brunell, Tim "The Dream" Hasselbeck, Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Jeff George, Tony Banks, Brad Johnson, Gus Frerotte, Trent Green...all of our starting quarterbacks since 1998. This roller coaster is not over yet, but when you look at this list, you see a lot of names that were not part of any good plan. In fact, you could say that most of these guys were part of extremely ill-conceived, asinine and idiotic plans. Rex Grossman is not the future of this team. But he is part of what appears to be a good plan. He knows the system, the coaches are confident in his abilities and he figures to not only carry the water until our "quarterback of the future" is ready to go, but he could very well be a natural mentor in this system when that time comes. We could definitely mishandle it from here, but there appears to be a longview that has been missing in years past.

10. We have had very good reason to be negative and pessimistic in Septembers over the last decade. Smart folks could poke holes in this ship today, but the fact is we are sailing on much calmer seas. There appears to be some continuity and stability in place in the front office and on the sidelines. Personnel decisions are looking more sound than they have in the past and the owner appears to be letting his guys do their job. What we have seen on the field so far is an honest-to-God PROFESSIONAL football team. We are closer to being a contender today than we have been in YEARS. We are closer to winning meaningful games late in the winter than we have been in years. We have a roster full of players that we will thoroughly enjoy rooting for this year and for years to come. As for our chances this season, I look at this team and the way they have come together and I am reminded of the words of George Allen.

To update his quote to fit 2011: "Fifty-three men working together CAN'T LOSE!" It's time to get excited. We'll put back on our pessimist hats in February. Today, we are contenders.

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Could be the BEST headline ever...

It’s Week 1, everyone (including myself) needs to throw their shitty mindset away. We all need to be drinking the Kool-Aid for this Sunday!

It’s not the best headline ever though b/c you should of kept the name of last week’s column.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

were are the ten tards? I liked them.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 6, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No!

just kiddding.

We have a PLAN. There are player with POTENTIAL.

That is why I’m watching this year.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 6, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Youthful improvement, my friend.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought this day would never come.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 6, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am impressed!!!!

I know one your your main concerns was Shanny’s ability to be able to bring in a solid defense. You can’t help but like some of these guys he has scrounged up.
Here we go, September 11th, opening day against the New York Football Giants!!!!!!!!!!

by MagicHat on Sep 6, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roster Age: There are not that many Skins players over 30, more on offense than defense. The defensive players

of the Steelers and Ravens are not so young. A replacement for Fletcher may be on the current roster, but if the Team can get good performance out of two ILBs comparable to HIM plus a lesser ILB in the near future that will be OK. The idea of a competitive team beyond one or two years is a good objective. IMO, it will not be two or three drafts away before the Skins are contending. With Grossman at age 31 and Beck at 30, the franchise QB is still a dream, something hoped for. The Team is not likely to pickup as many free agents that can help out the way the 2011 group has done, so the draft is the best way to upgrade in the near future.

by Jefferson1935 on Sep 6, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

You speak nothing but the truth...

the older spots on this roster have capable players behind them (except QB which will probably be addressed mid April of 2012). I can’t remember the last time that I truly agreed with the moves of the front office. I’ve done more face palms the last 10 years than I can handle…this is a new team, I know the Skins haven’t been great since they were in RFK, but the atmosphere is different. This team is most definitely going to have to come out strong this year with the beginning of the schedule being far easier than the tail end.

HTTR

by ptowny on Sep 6, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

preach!

Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found

by Lancers25 on Sep 6, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Post Ken!!

I will say, as a long time Redskins Fan (and one who basks fondly in the rememberances of the glory years) I have no problem with rating Shanny’s regime over Gibbs 2.0. I just Joe really knew what he was walking into. Now if we could have turned over a roster that looks like the one Shanny is putting together I believe Joe would have been successful.

by MagicHat on Sep 6, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

What gets me excited

are the attitudes of the players. From top to bottom, they are excited about what’s going on at Redskin’s Park. They believe in Shanahan, and they believe that he is putting together something special. I think that anyone who went to training camp this year could feel the difference in this team—the players were out there to work and play football, not to cash checks and support a lifestyle. I’ve been on really bad football teams and I’ve been on really good teams. When every player in a locker room is truly on the same page, its a really special feeling.

I’m not holding my breath for a Lombardi trophy at the end of this season, but I do believe that the 2011 Redskins can surprise a lot of people.

by CarverM on Sep 6, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Really.

Shanahan is better than Gibbs 2.0 ? Stop it guys please so far they have the same record after there first season and that’s where the similarities. Zorn left Shanahan a much better team than Spurrier did. Like everyone else I believe that the team will be ok this year. But Shanahan is no genius. Or no Gibbs!

The Rod has spoken

by Rodskin on Sep 6, 2011 12:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Seriously?

There are 39 NEW players on this team from when Shanahan took over…you don’t replace 75% of your roster in one year if you have a half way decent team. This team was absolutely horrible. The scheme changes on offense and defense had something to do with some of the moves, but all in all, we upgraded players within the scheme as well as the locker room

by ptowny on Sep 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

Zorn left Shanahan London Fletcher, Chris Cooley, and Santana Moss. Oh, and a neophyte B Rak. Who else?

by CJHutch on Sep 6, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much else to say but

HAIL YEAH! I’m looking forward to watching a team I can finally feel good about, regardless of the box score.

by willster on Sep 6, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I have such a good feeling going into Sunday.

I think the Redskins are going to absolutely POUND the Giants into submission.

Hightower has a huge day. Cofield plays amazingly against his old team. Orakpo and Kerrigan destroy Eli. And write it down, Gaffney has 2 redzone TDs.

Final 31-17!!!!

"That's what she said!"

by iH8dallas on Sep 6, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

on the good feeling going into sunday especially with the giants being banged up. grossman should have a good rex day not a bad rex day and the skins win 17-14. the offense still wont produce more then 20 points.

Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found

by Lancers25 on Sep 6, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

After we beat the Giants

I think some media types’ heads will explode. We can only hope that it is captured on live television.

by CarverM on Sep 6, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

One guy on ESPN had the Skins as his "surprise" team

the Sportscenter host almost busted a nut laughing. Screw ’em.

HTTR!

by mkjo on Sep 6, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damien Woody

He still laughed at Grossman. Eff them. At this point, I want them to pick against us, few people in the media are capable of thinking on their own.
I guarantee their collective thought process is
" If the Redskins have been bad, and everyone is used to them being bad, than they’re obviously going to be bad. No need to look at the makeup of the team, just the fact that its the Redskins"

I can’t wait for the day that the team turnsnit around, and all these talking heads start acting like they knew it was coming.

by CJHutch on Sep 6, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

but really what have they done to make people change their opinions?

It will stay the same until the team starts winning games, one decent offseason after years of sucking doesn’t change much at this point.

by PJ_21 on Sep 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

so true. i despise all the national haters as much as the next guy, but what do you really expect from them? Winning cures all…

Hail to 'Em

by SkinsaneAsylum on Sep 6, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect them

To look at our team, realize we’ve completely overhauled the roster with young talent, evaluate us off that, rather than the team we trotted out in 2004. Everybody is saying Detroit is gonna be better, some people are even predicting playoffs for them. Well, they’ve been more of a disaster than us the past few years. There front office, just as much of joke. Yet they get more respect than us.

by CJHutch on Sep 6, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sober today?

Any grocery shopping?

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 6, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

At the store now. Seems like there were more aisles last time.

by CJHutch on Sep 6, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bottom line

I agree,this team,looks like it can compete,with the likes of dallas,NY,philly.They say patience is a virtue,then,I have a lot of patience.I see a sleeping giant here.SKINS WIN,SKINS WIN!!!

by Roy m Tillman on Sep 6, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

sound like lou holtz like night. calling the skins a sleeping giant

Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found

by Lancers25 on Sep 6, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more.

This is the first year in a long time where my heart and my head actually line up. Always “felt” good, but knew disaster was around the corner. Don’t think we’ll crush teams, but definitely headed in the right direction.

by jellis113 on Sep 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd be happy

with any win. They always seem beatable, but have a tendency to show up.

by jellis113 on Sep 6, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This
but definitely headed in the right direction.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 6, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot the most important reason for optimism:

All 3 Huskers made the team. You guys are set.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

Green Bay Packers: Super Bowl XLV Champions!!!!

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by Omaha Sun on Sep 6, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

There's definitely something diferent about the team this year

that there hasn’t been for a while.

I just hope it doesn’t all come crashing down around 9pm on Sunday.

by PJ_21 on Sep 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

what shanahan is building

can not be completed or destroyed by the outcome of one game. let me ask you somthing, if the skins lose week 1 are you going to be shouting from the rooftops to pull grossman and fire shanahan? Hopefully you will not, but i can guaruntee there will be plenty in the media and in our own fan base who will be

I am hopeful that this won’t be an issue, as I see the Skins smacking the Giants in the face 28-17!!!

Hail to 'Em

by SkinsaneAsylum on Sep 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No of course not but if they take a beating it will put a serious downer on all the good work done so far!
The team should obviously be judged on the whole year and not just 1 game but it would be nice to start with a W.

by PJ_21 on Sep 6, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

unfortunately the way things have gone in the recent past, the bandwagon fans we are starting to lure back will jump off with the slightest road bump…

I would never question your fanhood PJ_21!!!!

Hail to 'Em

by SkinsaneAsylum on Sep 6, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only danger

is if Snyder gets frustrated before Shanahan gets things turned around.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

right in the nail.

Snyder can’t screw this up. Not this time.

by brazilianbeast on Sep 6, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right attitude, Right Direction

This year looks to be solid, but probably not spectacular.

With the seasoning that our young team will develop this year, if we have another solid draft next year, plus add 2-3 free agents in the same mold as what we did this year, 2012 will be very bright for OUR Redskins!

A Redskin Potato

by Mr PotatoHead on Sep 6, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

i still think 3 teams from the nfc east will make it to the playoffs

im hoping its us. and i think the other is the cowboys. the giants get both the pack and the saints as their 1 game of north and south ouch! we need week 1 really bad !!! and if we do win week 1 we cant overlook the cards because we go to dallas the week after. just play our game 1 week at a time. ride the running game and feed the deep ball to armstrong he still doesnt draw double covrage even though he burnt alot of teams last year.

by munson21502 on Sep 6, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hoping

Fingers crossed and hope for a win over the Giants. I am optimistic for the first time in a long time.

by redskins-texas-fan on Sep 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

AMEN!

Thank you Ken.
I can’t stand listening to whining Sports djays who just slam, slam, slam. And they always say, but, but, but……………………………

by jmpalomo on Sep 6, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Sunday needs to come quicker. I’m going to make a hell of a meal for the boyfriend and we will watch the game with our friends.

Men and Football. The two greatest creations known to women!

by RedskinsGirl on Sep 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LOVE YOU!!!

No, seriously…My fiance does the same for me. She is a Cowboys fan though. I let it slide because she is fine as hell!

by KonartistNupe on Sep 6, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll never work out

Huge red flag. Run now. That’s like being a hard core Jesus freak and dating a devil worshiper. Or being a gun toting, NRA card carrying, red meat eating conservative dating a tree hugging, don’t shave anything, Vegan liberal.

Just kidding. Good luck man. I couldn’t marry a Cowgirls fan but I wish you the best. Taht’s why I married a girl from the AFC. Skins first in my house.

When life gives you potatoes, make potato salad.
When life gives you shit, make shit salad.

by 64ShagginWagon on Sep 6, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Broncos

had .616 winning% under Shanahan and the Redskins had a .70% winning record under Gibbs. So, i hope they can return to that territory again. Sure beats watching them going 4-12.

by hambonejackson on Sep 6, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

TERPS (sorry to ask in here but we have some of the most resourceful users...)

I missed the beginning. What were the terps wearing before they came out of the tunnel? Someone said they had a different helmet during warmups before switching to the flag helmet…
 

HTTR!

by mkjo on Sep 6, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever it was they should of kept the warm up helmets on, haha.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the uni's but it's hard to defend them.

And I know you’re a VA dude so I won’t even try.
You think the rumor’s from last year are true that once Nike takes over, they’re going to re-design all uni’s in the nfl?

HTTR!

by mkjo on Sep 6, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not
You think the rumor’s from last year are true that once Nike takes over, they’re going to re-design all uni’s in the nfl?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I think that could happen, but total redesigned are out of the question

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not Nike's decision to change any teams uni's

…its the decision of the owner/front office and maybe the coach too. Can you imagine if Nike came into GB, DC, Dallas, San Fran, Etc. and said “Okay, so we know your uniforms honor the long, storied history of your respected franchise….BUT CHECK THESE BITCHES OUT!!! DAAAAMMMNNNN THEY IS SO FRESH!!!”

Hail to 'Em

by SkinsaneAsylum on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I wouldn’t mind seeing some 21st century designs but you’re right, traditionalists will win out.

HTTR!

by mkjo on Sep 6, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see the "leaked" uni combos for each team last year?

someone who was good at photoshop or adobe created alternate Nike Unis for all or most of the NFL. It was fun to imagine a 21st century alternate jersey…..but i will take our historic colors and schemes any day of the week and twice on sundays

Hail to 'Em

by SkinsaneAsylum on Sep 6, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

that’s what got me asking…I knew it was just rumors but they were neat to look at.

HTTR!

by mkjo on Sep 6, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always wondered

Why other teams in the league had young talent contribute right away and we never seemed to have that. I think this is the year that changes (would have been more with Jenkins) and that is what will be the difference from previous years.

by jellis113 on Sep 6, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I was really looking forward to some Dom Capers style two down lineman sets with Jenkins and Cofield, sigh...

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scouting

Cerryder ran the organization like a FFL team – draft the splashy guys who performed well last year with no regard to work ethic or how well they fit the system. I don’t see so much of that happening in the future!

by l.pensinger on Sep 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Draft?

I don’t recall many drafts. It was always sign the flashy old guys and draft anything but Oline

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by 64ShagginWagon on Sep 6, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kerrigan will be a beast.

Orakpo was good right out of the box. I’m also looking forward to Helu busting some big runs.

"That's what she said!"

by iH8dallas on Sep 6, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS:

JAGUARS RELEASE DAVID GARRARD.

Luke McCown to start; Blaine Gabbert to back-up for week 1.

Wow… It is so nice not having a terrible front office anymore…

by preppiejack on Sep 6, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I had just read an article yesterday about the Jags selecting team captains even though they hadn’t the year before. And obvi Garrard was a captain… This is fairly shocking.

by preppiejack on Sep 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN article had Jones-Drew/Lewis as offensive captains

either way…

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by hscer on Sep 6, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow we should go get him

by week 6 or so he could come right in for us

by munson21502 on Sep 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to go Preppie, it only took 4 minutes

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I wasn’t trying to stir up debate about bringing him to DC. Lol.

I was more just shocked at that as a development as a fan of football in general. Rex and Beck are no longer the worst tandem in the NFL- thanks to our good friends in Jacksonville: Luke “Josh’s Brother” McCown and Blaine “Glad the Skins didn’t” Gabbert.

by preppiejack on Sep 6, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're still not the second worst tandem

What about Jackson and Whitehurst in Seattle, or Smith and Kappernick in S.F. and last but not least McNabb and Ponder in Minnesota. I think we have better QBs then all of them.

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by 64ShagginWagon on Sep 6, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

McNabb and Ponder are better.

But otherwise, um, yeah, we’ve got one of the worst tandems in the league, if perhaps not THE worst.

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by smutsboy1 on Sep 7, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll pass

"That's what she said!"

by iH8dallas on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously we have to...

Garrard wasn’t involved in any of washingtontowin’s prophesies.

by preppiejack on Sep 6, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laron Landry just sent out an interesting tweet.

“it ain’t my fault…blame the genius circus staff for the rush…would have been there 2wks ago…i’m sry but the saga cont.”

"That's what she said!"

by iH8dallas on Sep 6, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

He's talking about his monkey

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by Parks Smith on Sep 6, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang Parks

We just cross-posted a comment about Landry’s monkey. See the post about this tweet.

by preppiejack on Sep 6, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im always coming across people who bash Gibbs' 2nd tenure with us

The dude got us to the playoffs twice in four seasons with Cerrato and Snyder in house. I thought Gibbs return was a success, comparatively speaking!
I don’t look at his overall record over the 4 years, I look at us in the hunt twice in January for the Super Bowl, something we haven’t been able to relate to since he left again.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 6, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

f yeah boyyyyyyyyyyy

lettem h8

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Sep 6, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Gibbs 2.0 was the best coach we had since Joe Gibbs 1.0

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(Figures accurate through 23 August)

by hscer on Sep 6, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing negative about acknowledging we'll probably suck this season

And sorry – but you can’t just wipe around the Snyder s—t stain with a sunshines and lollipops paragraph.

He owns the team, has all but destroyed the bond between the organization and its community for 85% of its supporters, and has made attendance of a Redskins game into a tortuous ordeal. He is a horrible, horrible person who should die soon.

by thediesel on Sep 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

to have been a redskins fan for awhile, i can honestly say that shanahan and allen are running the show. to sign 12 draft picks and not sign any big name FA’s just goes to show you where this team is headed towards the future. i think snyder took a long look and finally said……hey, my way just isn’t working and let me try something new. how long that lasts will only tell. besides for the new looking team, i’m more excited going into this season without all the drama. besides for the beck and grossman ordeal(IMO had me mad at first but actually got a good look at both QB’s, and said….maybe these guy’s aren’t that bad)….going from Zorn getting his play calling stripped, to haynesworth not wanting to play, and the benching of mcnabb….we’ve had some really bad years. as of now we’re not being talked about at all, and that’s fine with me.

by alleykatt1000 on Sep 6, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even with all of the Drama from last year (McNabb and AH)

there was only 2 games that wasn’t competative. (2nd Eagles game and the 1st Giants game….and We had a chance to win the Lions game at the last 5 minutes). …even with the personnel that MS inheritated from the Cerrato era.

To me, it show the type of coach we have in MS and that is why I am excited to watch the Redskins games this year….with more of his type of personnel this year than last year, I can actually see a possible winning record (if not an 8-8 team).

by Chilliewil on Sep 7, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont blame snyder at all

. not sure why any other fan does either. if we had the money and bought the team. we too woulda spent what ever it took to buy a winner. he just didnt have any luck. ne leasson learned and he is letting a proven coach and a better GM run the show now.

by munson21502 on Sep 6, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

losers blame luck.
he just didnt have any luck.

Snyder is a loser.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 7, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm still in the "we don't have a chance" boat

But having a positive outlook on how things are being handled in regards to the future and being optimistic of things falling in your favor are two different outlooks, I don’t share in the latter.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Where's All The Laughing And Jokes?

Your article hits many valid points and I agree with you that we’ll compete on a weekly basis and will be a better football team than people think! I don’t see all the laughing and joke making by the “Experts” and “gurus” when the Washington Redskins are the topic. Where did they go? I can’t wait to watch them have to eat their words!

I’m not implying that we’re anywhere near a Super Bowl contender, but we’re far better than 2-14 or 4-12 like some have predicted. I’m happy with what coach Mike Shanahan has been able to do so far and we’ll remain a work in progress. I noticed how few penalties during the preseason as well and it reminded me of Joe Gibbs’ first stint in D.C. because we always had a very disciplined team that rarely hurt itself with mistakes.

by Beltwayboy on Sep 6, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

was watching the nfl network the other night

and they were talking about how hard the rams early schedule was.. they named the first 3. giants, eagles and ravens games then said they have a bye in week 5 then they gotta play @ dallas @green bay then they play the saints….. guess who that team they left out in week 4???? yep thats right us lol

by munson21502 on Sep 7, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Palabra!

I’m on board. I am still allowed to be devastated about Jarvis Jenkins though, right?

by Jim America on Sep 6, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Power Rankings

Has anyone mentioned the rankings yet? SBNation has ‘Skins at the bottom at #30. That hurts. Good thing Giants aren’t even considering the Redskins as anything but a JV team.
I sure hope the “experts” have really missed something this time.
I’m keeping hope alive here and ready to give all of them a beat down.

"One of the most difficult things everyone has to learn is that for your entire life you must keep fighting and adjusting if you hope to survive." -George Allen

by caps&skins on Sep 6, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't read into rankings to much

Everytime we are ranked low they all say the same thing. We don’t have a great QB. Is that the only position on the field? No we will finish in the 10-15 range by the end of the season

When life gives you potatoes, make potato salad.
When life gives you shit, make shit salad.

by 64ShagginWagon on Sep 6, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keeping the fingers crossed. NFL.com cited a poor secondary for such a low ranking. Well, we’ll all see in the coming weeks and months. Not long now.

"One of the most difficult things everyone has to learn is that for your entire life you must keep fighting and adjusting if you hope to survive." -George Allen

by caps&skins on Sep 7, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I told an eagle fan friend of mine the same thing this week: if you don’t see improvements on the Redskins, you are not paying enough attention.

by brazilianbeast on Sep 7, 2011 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give us 3 games. Maybe 5 at best.

If that means I’m negative, so be it. But we don’t have a winning football club right now in my opinion. We’re in a sweepstakes for Luck, and thankfully, not many teams who will suck this season are in the QB hunt.

by J.Cash on Sep 7, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

j.cash

 have u not watched anything this season? we are playing good team football. our starters have out scored the steelers,colts, ravens and bucs 30 some to 0. he have 2 maybe 3 good running backs. thats gonna have teams loading up the lines to stop them. because they think our qb is a laughing stock and we dont have wrs… but armstrong got open deep alot last year with almost no running game.. now we got gaffney and moss that will be playing to prove he is worth more then a 1 year deal… we are gonna score alot of points this im betting and our D should get alot more sacks so the other teams wont have all day to throw and that leads to turn overs. plus we got a really easy schedule.i too thought we be a 2-5 win team but the way we are playing and seeing the guys we got after the lock out.plus the fact that the nfc south and north both have to play each other a game each. i think that opens up the wild card spots to the nfc east and i dont see why we wont be one of the teams to claim it….

by munson21502 on Sep 7, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hopefull but not delusional

I think we will win 6 or 7 games this year. While we improved our WR corps a lot, our OL still needs a lot of help, we need a true NT and most importantly we need an upper tier QB.

I really like what Shanahan has done but we’ve still got a ways to go.

by aFan4Life on Sep 7, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

rec

That’s where I’m at.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 7, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess in the words of Jake Taylor

“There’s only one thing left to do. Win the whole f’ing thing!”

by Cal4Commish on Sep 7, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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