Rex N' Effect: Stats Rankings Show OLine is More to Blame than Grossman
Rex Grossman has received a lot of negative press over this week for the bad INT and worst time ever to fumble the ball. The truth of the matter is that the Redskins offense is still in the middle of the pack offensively. We slipped four spots and now rank 5th in Time of Possession (still in the green). If anyone thinks John Beck can keep our offense on the field for sustained drives, pass me the bong.
What some fans fail to realize is that the OLine is still not playing at even a par level. A major reason people think Sam Bradford is having an off year is because of his NFL bottom completion percentage. The truth behind that stat is his WRs have dropped five balls and the Rams lead the league in QB hits with 30. The Redskins rank 8th in QB hits allowed. As we saw first hand against Arizona, bad things happen when the interior OLine doesn't hold their ground and rushers come in untouched off the edges. Rams' RT Jason Smith is statistically one of the worst Right Tackles in the NFL right now. Grossman floats passes and makes bad decision, but he's still doing the right things.
More analysis of after the jump....
| Grossman |
Stat |
NFL Ranking |
|
Completion % |
59.6 |
22 |
|
Attempts per Game |
38.0 |
7 |
|
TDs |
5 |
10 |
|
INTs |
3 |
10 |
|
Passing 1st downs |
46 |
4 |
|
Passes 20+ yards |
13 |
7 |
|
Sacks |
8 |
14th most |
|
Sacks per pass attempt |
7.02% |
20 |
|
QB Rating |
86.4 |
16 |
|
QB hits |
20 |
8th most |
|
Total Points scored |
66 |
14 |
|
Average pass length |
8.98 yards |
6 |
|
Average pass completion length |
6.74 yards |
13 |
|
Average Yards After Catch |
5.71 |
14 |
|
Red Zone % |
42.86% |
22 |
- QBs with more INTs than Grossman (Rivers, Brady, Casssel, Big Ben, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez)
- I personally like the 1st down stat (4th best in NFL). The QBs above him are Brady, Rivers, Brees, and Fitzpatrick. Extending drives keeps our defense off the field.
- Grossman's QB Rating is higher than Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Orton, Josh Freeman, Cutler, Cam Newton
- Of Grossman's 113 passes, 88 of them (78%) have been to the left side of field. 25 to the right. It's anyone guess what Grossman's reads are on plays, but it's interesting none the less. Pro Football Focus chimed in that this is a REALLY bizarre stat.
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I've been seeing that all along.
And outside of a decent performance in Dallas last week, I am all but over Trent Williams. I just don’t see how he’s lived up to a #4 overall pick. I used to think maybe switching him and Jamal Brown would be a good idea, until I saw Brown on Ware Monday night. Ugh, when will this team ever learn all offense STARTS UP FRONT!
What the shit
You're "over" a top 4 pick in his 19th career game?
jesus man, have some patience.
he was a raw talent coming in, benching him would be exceptionally stupid.
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by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I never said anything about benching him.
But the guy is wildly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks ok, other times (like against Pierre-Paul) he gets beat like a drum. I don’t think it should take 19 games to still be figuring out if a #4 overall pick is any good or not.
What the shit
Man
I think you have tunnel vision. Look around the league at ALL left tackles. They all have mixed results, and it is primarily a function of playing against the opposing teams top pass rusher on a weekly basis. Yeah, Trent may not be the best left tackle in the league, but he’s not the worst either. I see no reason why he can’t continue to improve. He’s a hell of a lot better than the alternatives, and I’m actually impressed at how quickly he’s picked up the most difficult offensive line position.
what are you saying, in practical terms?
he sucks? he’s always going to suck? he’s a bust?
all of these things are premature.
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I probably am premature,
but IMO, either you got it or you don’t. I see great focus and ability on one play, then the next one not so much. I am ok with a player getting beat occasionally, it’s the NFL. But, I don’t know how else to say this, he just flat out looks lazy. That’s my main problem with him. I know I’m in the minority and say what you will, but I expected more. And guys that are drafted in later rounds are the ones that are supposed to be “brought along”. Not one in the top 5.
What the shit
either you got it or you don’t.
and you’re saying he don’t got it?
ok.
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Shutting down
A player who is only behind Reggie White in sacks through as many games makes me want to bail on a first rounder too. Ridiculous….and about a week late.
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by jellis113 on Sep 30, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So let me get this straight.... Jammal Brown may be a problem?
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Nobody saw that coming...
…oh wait.
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Parks he's an 'important cog' of the offense because he is starting
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
really good point, sorry I mentioned it...
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Kevin your last stat tells the story of Jamaal Brown completely
in addition to the actual stats of sacks and pressures, he is constantly getting driven back by his man, at an angle heading to the QB. It doesn’t count as a pressure because Rex isn’t forced to move, but it limits him from rolling right or scrambling right. And unless we want to see Rexy throw across his body more, that stat won’t change.
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whoa
that’s deep dude
i mean i would not have picked up that correlation but I think you are most likely correct.
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by Al_CaPWNED on Sep 30, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha thanks man, just try to call it like I see it
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin had some other good Brown/Chester stuff on twitter.
Lets just hope that side improves as the year progresses.
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
it can if the Skins want
its called Sean Locklear
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
When I was at the Cards game, some rumor was going around that Locklear was going to start for TWill.
Because of disciplinary stuff. Kind of strange…no idea where it came from. Maybe the three Cardinals fans in attendance.
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
weird i didn't hear that
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Grossman
I pulled up his 2006 stats with Chicago when he played 16 games. He threw more balls to the right side than left…which is another damning piece of evidence for Parks’ boy Jammal Brown.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 30, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That's Steve's boy... I'll stick with Banks and DHall as my boys...
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
haha I think Brown being on the field is a damning piece of evidence against our offense
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Chester is one of the NFL’s worst right guards according to Pro Football Focus. I’m going to focus on him this week.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 30, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he's getting blown up a ton as well that right side is going to kill us (or Grossman) this year
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Are there any stats on what hash mark the pass play begins on versus the direction of the pass? The field isn't 50-50
based on the hash mark placement.
by Jefferson1935 on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
if you are throwing left that much and we are running left that much i think it is clear that we are obviously on the left hash more
(yet still continuing to run and throw to that side)
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Which is exactly what ENsDad27 and I were screaming during the Cowboys game thread. The OL is at fault before the discussion even gets near Grossman.
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Did you use all caps?
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think like twice out of the ten times.
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yeah Grossman isn't the biggest issue on this offense, not as long as Brown keeps playing like he does
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
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I don't think
You have to pick. Sure, the line doesn’t look good. In run blocking OR pass blocking. But that doesn’t give Rex a pass. Other QB’s get pressured, and still find ways to make plays. Our last game was a shining example of that.
But I’m not even talking about that. What bothers me the most are his fumbles. And I’m tired of hearing the O line get blamed for that. This is the NFL. Players get hit. I watch games all Sunday and see QB’s getting sacked. But they don’t all cough the ball up. Especially not as frequently as Rex. What’s irritating about it is, it’s not like his athleticism (or lack thereof), or his questionable arm strength. This is something that can be corrected. Yet he has failed to do it in 9 seasons.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
by CJHutch on Sep 30, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that doesn't really let the offensive line off the hook, it just makes their failures even worse
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not trying
To let the line off the hook. They’ve been bad. But so has Rex. And, again, I’m not BLAMING Rex for not being a great quarterback. We knew what we were getting with Rex. He’ll, the INT’s I can even take. All QB’s throw picks. But the fumbles I DO blame him for. They are all his. I don’t care how many sacks he takes, that doesn’t mean he has to cough the ball up so much. Period.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
there is usually a correlation between that...obviously he's worse at it. But still the best thing is to keep him upright.
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Completely agree
But, like I said, all QB’s get sacked. Its gonna happen. Hopefully our line can get their shit together enough to keep it from happening too often.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Rams lead the league in QB hits?
Time to unleash Dirty30 all day long, later Bradford
Here’s hoping that Landry doesn’t get stiff-armed fifteen times by Bradford like he did all game long against the Cowboys.
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He got stiff-armed a lot trying to make a tackle in the open field. A lot.
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Hmmm Not Good, Dirty30 will Correct that
by StephanHart on Sep 30, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he will as well.
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Kev, I'm confused a little(I know, happens often)
If we are 7th in the NFL @ 38 passing attempts per game, and we are 10th in the NFL in only allowing 8 sacks, and even better at 8th in the NFL at only giving up 20 QB hits, how can we be 20th in the NFL in sacks per attempt?
If Grossman is getting sacked every 7.02% sacks per passing attempt, and he’s been sacked just 8 times this season, whouldn’t that jump our passes attempted per game up to like 58? Something doesn’t seem right with the math here.
Also, if, as you put it in yoyr title, the offemsive line is more to blame that Grossman, don’t these stats(such as only 8 sacks, and only 20 hits) really point to the offensive line doing a better job?
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You forgot to apply the Pythagorean Theorum to the concepts
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
no seriously
do you see something wrong with this, or am I just stupid(please don’t answer the last part, haha)
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What are you using as Delta?
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I updated the post, like usual, I wasnt clear...
10th worst in sacks, and 8th worst in QB hits.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 30, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
in other words
we’re in the bottom 10 of the NFL….ie, not good.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but still
Grossman is not being sacked every 7.02 pass attempts.
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so that should read
20th in sacks
22nd in QB hits
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It's ranking teams best to worst right?
so if a team gave up no sacks, they are ranked best in the league @ #1, where the team who is 32nd in the league, may have given up 12 sacks?
Is that correct?
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yes
It means “Sacks Allowed” and “QB Hits Allowed”….where higher is worse.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 30, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that
it’s just their matrix that I’m confused by. If they are ranking teams best to worst, the best team, with the least ammount of sacks given up, should be ranked #1, ,and the worst team, with the most sacks allowed, should be #32.
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i'm also a bit confused by this line
Average pass length
8.98 yards
Average pass completion length
6.74 yards
wouldn’t the completion length have to be higher than the average pass length assuming the average pass includes attempts?
I think it's yard after catch, not how far the ball actually travels.
Or maybe if it is actual travel he throws from beyond the line of scrimmage and they count that.
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We average giving up 2.6 sacks per game
and we average 38 passing attempts per game. That should be a sack on Grossman on average every 14 attempts, not every 7, as your numbers point out.
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Yea, that math does not add up but the NFL website has that 7.02% #…just double-checked. My guess is that their stats rule out some passing “attempts.”
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 30, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
8 (sacks) divided by the number of attempts 114 = .07017
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
no
if Grossman was being sacked on average every 7.02 passes attempted, and he has attempted 114 passes, then he would have been sacked 16 times already this year. He’s only benn sacke 8.
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114 (attempts) times .07 = 7.98
16 divided by 114 = 14% not 7%
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Call the NFL website
and get this straightened out O’ frealess leader. There is no reason the NFL should be making Grossman look any worse than he already is LOL
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you mean the offensive line is worse than it already is
Grossman has actually cut down on our sacks this year.
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
7.02%, not every 7.02 attempts
Grossman is getting sacked on 7.02% of pass plays, which equals once every 14.25 attempts. (7.02*14.245 = 100)
Thats makes sense then
thanks for clearing that up
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Where are you getting 14 from?
2.6 (sacks) divided by 38 (attempts) = .06784
I’m pretty terrible at math, but am I missing some variable you are discussing?
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't read it as %
I read it as attempt. It was my fault. I simply read it wrong.
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There is a % sign after the number?
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed it
I said It was my bad. I took it as Sacks per pass attempt, which is what the catagory actually says. It doesn’t read % of sacks per pass attempt, it clearly reads “sacks” per pass attempt. Thats where I went astray.
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Parks just did it the Math is right, but for some reason apparently the stat is only looking at attempts
sack rate should be based on dropbacks, so it should be based on 122 drop backs (PFF has him at 123 drop backs) so you are talking about 6.5 . The real issue is the fact that Grossman has been sacked, hit or hurried on 38.2 of his drop backs, which is the 8th highest percentage in the league.
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably the first time in about 15 years that I got a math problem correct!
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yes your correct, and thank you
but the catagory is misleading.
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That catagory needs to be changed to read:
Sacks % per pass attempt – 7.02%
or
Sacks per pass attempt – 14.25
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It does!?!
Sacks per pass attempt
7.02%
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by Parks Smith on Sep 30, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it should read
sacks percentage per pass attempt
Get it genius
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Still don't get it b/c a "%" is present...
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sacks per pass attempt
would make one think that was a concrete number, not a percentage.
aka: SACKS, who many times Grossman was SACKED per pass attempt – which would be 14.25!
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After you see this sign % behind a number, it means percentage…
% = Percentage
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I guess I should be riding this:

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BillWard, is this the aforementioned BOOTY BUS!
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Redskins Offensive Line Stats?
The thesis was that the offensive line is the cause of our problems and NOT Grossman. However, all I see are Grossman’s stats and where he ranks.
I’m curious, where does our offensive line rank? I see a lot worse offensive lines out there than ours, and I’m thinking we have a line that ranks in the middle of the pack in most categories, which would be a major improvement over last year.
Chester and Brown are certainly liabilities, but again, find a team without liabilities on their offensive line. Every team is dealing with their guy or guys that just can’t get the job done.
by Kurtstack on Sep 30, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If you count up all the sacks, hits and hurries we are in a three way tie for 24th in the league in total number
While you are right that every team has liabilities, we also don’t have any studs either. Look at the Browns their o-line overall is struggling, but they at least have Joe Thomas and Alex Mack, who are both Pro Bowl caliber players. The Redskins don’t have that. We can continue to hope that Trent will become that, but he isn’t there yet.
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Okay
But again, sacks/hurries/hits are not always on the Line. Those can be a result of WRs not getting open and a QB who holds the ball too long. It seems to me Rex held the ball much longer per pass play than Romo in that Dallas game which I believe was the difference in the end. Even with the bad snaps I believe Romo was getting the ball outta his hand quicker than Rex.
However, in the two wins Rex seemed to be getting the ball out much quicker. So, I’m not sure what caused him to hold onto it longer per dropback in this game.
that's not true though
Grossman has actually been pretty good at getting rid of the ball. Of his sacks this season only the final one against Dallas could he maybe have thrown the ball away, but it was the end of the game and he was trying to make a play. I don’t fault him for that, I do fault Brown who can’t make a block on the biggest play of the game.
Grossman has saved this line sacks because of his ability to get the ball away, that is why his sack % is so low compared to his pressure %.
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by Steve Shoup on Sep 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
here we go again with blaming brown.
I’m going to replay that for you:
The play was not a designed rollout. It was a 90 series, which means a 5 step drop and the crossing route was being run to the right. Brown, like any good offensive tackle should do, pushed his man outside(after Spencer too an outside shoulder release, and threatened his right shoulder with an attempted speed-rush up field. Brown pushed Spencer around the outside, thus creating “the pocket” for Grossman to be able to step up into. If Grossman would have stepped up,slightly to his right, he would have had a throwing lane in the middle of the field, and moss was just coming open on hid deep in(dig route) Instead of stepping up, Grossman vacated the pocket to his left, because of a missed block by TW(who even though he had help to the inside, allowed his man to cross his face via a spin move and pressure Rex)and the chase began. Now being it was a designed play to the right, with Moss crossing, AA sitting and the TE running the corner to occupy the safety, there were no WR to the left of the formation, where Grossman was running. Spears had a running start, after Brown had filtered him around the edge, but he was still 5 yards away from Grossman. As Rex proceeded to look for an open receiver, he also kept turning his head to see who was after him. He was clearly out of the tackle box, and 7-8 sec. had gone by at this point. He continued running, and looking to see when he was going to be caught.
If he had any sense in the world, A.) he would have flipped the ball out of bounds, and lived to face another down, B) Saw he was about to be tackled and put two damn hands around the ball, or even freakin slid for that matter, or C) gotten the hell out of bounds, and stopped the clock(but he was obviously too slow to do this.
This my good friend, was all on Rex!
Take a look if you don’t believe me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRXhbtAHyvw
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Rex was in Shotgun
The ball was snapped on our own 43 yard line. Bown was still engaged with Spencer(puching him outside and deep) 11 yards deep into the backfield at the 32 yard line(you’ll see this at the 18 sec mark). Rex was supposed to STEP UP, and make the thrown to Moss across the middle. This is very easy to see.
Chester and Monty did a decent job(not great because the DT got too much push in Chester), up front. Had Rex just stepped up to where he was supposed to, he has a lane!
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Yet another key here
The outside WR to the left was a decoy. This play was clearly designed to go to Moss. The WR to the left ran a go, and his only job was to take away the safety from over-the-top help on Moss’ dig route. You’ll even notice rex look off the safety to the left to make sure he respected the deep route. While he was doing this, he also saw the spin move Ware put on TW, and he obviously got rattled, eventhough he was against a 3 man front(and one guy dropped off anyways, leaving only 3 rushers) and knew he had inside help fom Licht. Look how Licht checked his man, then came off to help TW like he was supposed to. He had inside help, so if Rex had just stepped up, this never would have happened.
Poor play by TW and Rex.
Author @ HogsHaven, Writer for NFLTouchdown.com, Contributor/Scout for Scout.com, Football Coach/Strength Conditioning Coach at Farmington High
He always does this
and always has. This in one of his major problems.
Others want to constantly point to other areas where they feel the problem is, and use PFF stats to point out their arguement, but PFF stats only tell a small part of the story. Thats why I’m always at odds with Steveo, because I see the game, not through a bunch of stats, but from actually led to those stats…………………ie, the play I broke down above.
Steveo blames Brown, I clearly blame Rex.
Author @ HogsHaven, Writer for NFLTouchdown.com, Contributor/Scout for Scout.com, Football Coach/Strength Conditioning Coach at Farmington High
except your not watching the game, b/c any coach would tell you that Brown failed to get to the outside, he wasn't quick enough
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
Have you ever played the game
coached the game etc…….Because the statements you are making, seem to me like you have no idea about how the game works at all.
Brown does what a RT is supposed to do when his ouside shoulder is attacked.
Author @ HogsHaven, Writer for NFLTouchdown.com, Contributor/Scout for Scout.com, Football Coach/Strength Conditioning Coach at Farmington High
I use PFF and other stats to show that this isn't just bias, that he really is awful
as I’ve said before Maybe Rex should have thrown the ball away, but can you really blame him he was trying to make a play to win the game. Brown was failing to execute his play. I’m sorry but getting a hand on him three times, but not even slowing him down is Brown ’doing his job"
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
you realize that Brown didn't push Spencer at all in fact he barely touched him
Spencer decided to take the outside lane and just beat him around the edge…
Steveospeak - Content Manager of Fanspeak.com
And what is a descent QB supposed to do
STEP UP!!!! Grossman doesn’t do this. Peroid. It’s on Rex!
Author @ HogsHaven, Writer for NFLTouchdown.com, Contributor/Scout for Scout.com, Football Coach/Strength Conditioning Coach at Farmington High
I blame
Kyle “Noodles” Shanahan.. His play calling in the red zone hurt us more then anything!!
HIs play calling in general was horrible
Ran the same 3rd and short play to Cooley on back to back drives. First one made sense, the second one didn’t. That and the lack of run plays in the 2nd half really infuriated me.
by Nobetterthenbob on Sep 30, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Pass blocking efficiency left and right tackles shown separately for 2010 -
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/13/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-tackles/
The typical offense has about 1,000 snaps in a season with the starting OL having most of the total.
“For the purposes of this study, only players who stayed into pass protect on at least 200 occasions qualified. […] There will be some surprise in that the top pass-blocking right tackle was Sean Locklear. He had five games where he was perfect in pass protection, and gave up only three sacks during the regular season”
The players that are not listed but have enough snaps are in between the bottom of the best and top of the worst.
Left tackles betweem 5.24 and 5.79
15 Barry Sims SF 234 5.24
15 Michael Roos TEN 544 5.79
Right tackles between 5.18 and 6.27
15 Vernon Carey MIA 454 5.18
15 Mansfield Wrotto BUF 267 6.27
The 2009 list of tackles without regard to the number of starts. Approximately 39 left and right tackles had 200+ snaps. This indicates about 9 players are not specifically listed in the left and right tackles tables. -
http://home.comcast.net/~fwroy/PFF%20perf%20sel%20year.html
KEVIN YOU DON'T GET IT!!! OH YES I AM SCREAMING LOL !!!
WE are in the middle of the pack stat wise on offense. But we played against Arizona who has a 25th ranked pass defense and the Giants who are at 20th. We played the Cowboys and they had a team full of walking wounded on defense and offense. You need to wake up and stop thinking Grossman is the answer. The sooner we get Beck on the field the better off we will be. Will we still be in the middle of the pack when we play teams with healthy defense players or top tier defensive teams. Hey good buddy stop using skewed stats to support TRAIN REX!!! LJP HAS SPOKEN !!!

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