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1. There were plenty of costly mistakes made last night, and I know DeAngelo Hall is hearing about his share today, but the botched hold by Sav Rocca was the one that hurt the most when I woke up this morning. I am in Phoenix, Arizona this week so I am being spared the awful sports radio that most D.C. sports fans are being subjected to today. I can only imagine the negativity surrounding D. Hall's 3rd and 21 play. But that blocked field goal was not the result of a bad snap. Sav simply has to make that play. If we make that very reasonable kick, the decision-making for the rest of the game changes in a meaningful way on both sides of the ball. Our defense would have found themselves in game-winning situations against a Cowgirl offense that was reduced to screaming at each other in the red zone there at the end. I try not to ever argue that one play cost us the game, and in this situation I see no reason to hang the outcome on Rocca, but...it was huge.

2. I loved Rex Grossman last night. I understand he made some errors that were tough to swallow, but I really thought he played a game that gave us a very good opportunity to win. I don't believe in the "Good Rex, Bad Rex" nonsense. I do believe we have a quarterback that will finish the season in the top half of the league by the time 2011 comes to a finish. It comes down to wins, and I think that if he keeps up this level of play, we will find ourselves sitting on a respectable amount of wins.

Star-divide

3. What are fans saying back home about the blitzing by Haslett? For my part, I loved it. If you are going to live and die by something in this league, it should be pressure on the quarterback. We died a little by it at the end there didn't we? There is no great shame in going down swinging...perhaps no greater than the shame of looking at strike three.The scramble and subsequent pass to Dez Bryant on that unforgettable game-saving play made by Romo...what can I say? That was a great play made by a banged up quarterback running for his life. Only a handful of guys can make that play. I hope we ride our blitzing strategy all season long.

4. Josh Wilson is money well spent. Our secondary might not rank among the elite units in the league, but this group of guys can play and they can keep us in games. On the flip side, if I was an offensive coordinator and I had a monster receiver like Dez Bryant, I would throw quick-hitters to him on just about every play. It seems like it is good for about four or five yards per attempt.

5. To those of us who have been begging to see Chris Cooley and Fred Davis on the field together for a whole game, last night was a real treat. Starting Cooley at fullback was fun to see and when he got those carries on short yardage situations, I was ecstatic. Depending on how this evolves, I would like to see us show that formation and then roll Davis outside and roll Cooley to the tight end spot. One of those times Fred Davis will end up covered by a real chump.

6. It sucks losing and it sucks HARD losing to Dallas. But I have discovered the silver lining today: I care right now more than I have in years. I had become so desensitized to these losses over the last decade. Sure, they hurt a little, but I woke up feeling like a bag of dog poop today. It is the sense that this team can, should and will win these kinds of games that has really opened us all up to the inevitable pain that will come our way in defeat. No, it doesn't hurt so good...but it does feel good to care this much.

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Great post, Wilson did look good last night

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't like the Junkies much

but i was listening earlier and they were saying, just as I’ve been saying, that it was A) Not Hall’s fault and B) a bad call.

Look, pressure on the QB is all well and good, but there’s a line between intelligent use of our pass rushers and “lolz go get em boyz,” and Haslett crossed that line last night. A Cover Zero in that situation is simply idiotic. 5 men on the rush would have put the same amount of pressure on Romo as that 8 man rush did. Pathetic.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

If it worked would you be writing the same thing?
Don’t matter what [defensive coordinator Jim Haslett] say. This is my team; this is my defense. So I’m going to follow the receiver around. That’s what I’m going to do. If we’ve got to do that to win games, that’s what I’m going to do. That’s how it was. That ain’t how it’s going to be from here on out. I’m going wherever the … ball is going. Wherever the receiver’s going, that’s where … I’m going, bottom line. – DeAngelo Hall, September 2010

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it had worked

would you be slamming Hall right now?

Look, we had already run that play, what, 3 times that game? Of COURSE they figured it out. As Hall said, it doesn’t take a freaking rocket scientist.

If it had worked, I certainly wouldn’t be praising it. I’d probably be saying how lucky we are. I had my hands on my head when I saw that. I was going “WHAT ARE YOU DOING!? OH MY GOD! YOU’RE GOING TO BLOW THE GAME!” No joke. I saw that coming from a mile away. Bonehead call.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explain to me how they figured it out? It was a broken plan from many various positions. If it had worked then I wouldn’t be slamming Hall right now, b/c that variable would never had been present. That’s not the same thing. The call is constant, if you’re going to criticize it when it doesn’t work then you should criticize when it does.

I don’t know if its the same play, it could be a similar one, or a different variations. I’m about 100% you don’t know if it was the same play either.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about the situation.

It’s not as bad when there’s still a whole half left in the game and it’s a running situation. But emphasis needs to be on coverage on an obvious passing down with 21 yards to the marker.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s obviously a gamble and I’m glad we have a DC with the stones to try it. Greg Blache would’ve been in prevent with huge cushion and the ladies probably would of picked up a first with two passes. Romo beat us on that play, plain and simple.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind

a 5 man rush with a combination of man and zone coverage and a double team on Bryant, and in that case I would be blaming DHall too if it had still gone for the first down.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

hindsight is 20/20 my friend

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but foresight isn't

and like I said, I was upset with the call before the ball was even snapped.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's impossible

b/c you didn’t know what the call was, the LBs or interior lineman could of easily dropped back and just shown blitz. But now I’m just messing with.

It’s just a matter of personal opinion there is really no use and going around this all day. Only one of us could know what was truly going to happen and he’s been missing for awhile.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

They couldn't have covered from where they were.

Look at the lineup. The only guy a LB could have gotten out fast enough to cover was the guy I circled.

They’re all right up against the line. Bryant made the catch 20 yards downfield.No way a LB gets back there fast enough to make an impact.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The safety

could have rotated to cover the guy circled, then the corner covering him drops back into safety position.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've never heard of a zone defense?

Or ever seen a defender back off a blitz.

By what you’re saying and just described, then apparently you had to “foresight” to see that Bryant was going to slip his route and go 20 yard down the field. But some how Romo or Garrett didn’t have the same foresight.

You’ve also said several times that Romo was able to sit back and make a play, when in reality he was running for his life that play. And if they audibled to max protect, like you said, then wouldn’t have Whitten shifted into a traditional TE set?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I simply wasn't expecting a short route at all.

The Cowboys knew they needed 20 yards and they knew the blitz was coming. The point is I realized they were going to have more time than the Redskins expected and they were going to throw a medium pass at the least against single coverage.

And OK, it wasn’t quite max protect, but they kept 7 guys in to block.

I know what the zone D is but given the obvious necessity for a 20 yard catch would you obviously expect the LBs to be able to back off quick enough from their pre-snap alignment to make an actual impact on the play? They can’t keep up with Bryant, sorry. They would need a cushion of at least 5 yards or so.

The only play I can fathom that would work out of that formation vs. that offense would be to have two of the blitzing players pull out to cover Witten and have the guy who was covering him move down to help Hall with Bryant, meaning the blitz comes from the left side forcing Romo to throw at Wilson, but it didn’t occur to me until today.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

They knew that the odds were they weren't going to get it

The play was designed to go to Bryant quickly because the blitz was coming, they audibled to max protect, which after the snap allowed Romo to roll out right, he directed Bryant to take off down field who was in man coverage and they made the play.
I have no problem leaving the corners in man coverage, just give them some freaking help over the top with our Safety’s. You can still send your front 7 or even one ILB if you want the other helping with the slot guy. but leaving 3 DBs in one on one there was a gamble. The anticipation is that the rush gets to him and he has to bail on the play and nothing comes of it. Romo bought himself time and worked the call to his advantage. That shit happens. But in the future, hopefully the precaution of not leaving your guys in man up in those situations tells you to throw a cover 2 in there regarding your Safety’s. A less mobile QB would have probably lost on that play last night.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It really wasn't a bad play but I don't think it was executed very well

somebody lost contain allowing Romo to roll out to his right but I believe the thinking behind the play is that we can get to the QB before the WRs can get open downfield by overloading the LOS. I know thats an obvious & simplistic statement but how many times have we seen opposing teams do that to us with pretty good success.

by ENsDad27 on Sep 27, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Idk if they figured it out but that play has ben called alot

It even looks similar to the same play Fitzgerald scored on, pretty much the same outcome…not to play Monday mornin(I no its Tuesday afternoon) DC but a overload blitz forcing romo his left would have ben a far better call if your gonna blitz you don’t want a mobile an running to his strong side besides balanced blitzs are easier to pick up because you can see where everyone is coming from makin it easier for the blockers to bottle up the blitz

by BmoreRedskin on Sep 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It is a bad call by Haz

But at the same time, if Hall wants to be labeled as a #1, he needs to step up. If he doesn’t like he didn’t last night, then that’s fine, but he in return needs to learn to shut the hell up. All he does is trash talk in the beginning and finger point in the end.
I defend that he shouldn’t be left alone like that, but not because it’s just a hard job to ask of him, but because we all know he can’t do it.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ball was in Romo's hands for over 6 seconds on that play.

Nobody, and I mean nobody is going to be able to cover a freak like Dez Bryant for that long. Hall got burned because on a blitz like that you’re supposed to be able to expect the ball to come out fast, so he played expecting a short pass. It’s not his fault. I blame Hall for a lot of things too, but this is not one of those things. Hall’s actually been pretty good so far this season.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that's how they figured it out...

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

First you say they figured out the play and now you're describing a broken play.

Romo had to run for his life and then communicate to Bryant during the play where to go b/c he was still underneath with DHall. It’s not like the Cowboys drew it up this way.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Skins lined up with 8 guys in the box more than once that game

and every time they brought the house. So Romo audibles a max protect and the line slides to pick up the blitz because we didn’t have any variation at all out of that formation. Romo rolls out, Bryant sees he still has the ball, continues to run upfield.

The Cowboys recognized the blitz from the get-go. The play was broken because they figured it out.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please go back and watch the play again. Do me a favor.

Dez was going to camp out where he was until Romo directed him. Look at the whole field and everything that was going on. I think you’re incorrect about several things here.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, the breakdown from watching the highlight.

Redskins bring 8 guys. Blitz is picked up. Time between the snap and the throw is at least 4.5 seconds. Romo directs Bryant to go downfield.Catch is made, Hall tackles, debatable but ultimately correct call is made on the facemask.

Most of what I said was right except the Bryant part.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch it 5 more times

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Already have in several places.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He brushed the facemask

did not grasp and pull it. Under the current rules, that isn’t a penalty. Not blaming the refs, it could have gone either way.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That call was infuriating

but I would have been just as pissed about the “defenseless reciever” call on the hit on Moss. They go both ways.

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by jellis113 on Sep 27, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the last time Romo audibled to a max protect the center snapped the ball early and they lost 11 yards

you could have had a cover eight and it might not have worked either. Like it or not Romo is a smart quarterback who makes some big plays, and that was one of them. If our pass rush did a better job that falls incomplete or gets picked off.

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by Steve Shoup on Sep 27, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not giving Hall safety help

and it’s a belief that Hall could do the job, which is not the case. I wouldn’t put anyone 1-on-1 on Bryant in that situation save the top 3-4 guys at the position in the league. Hall is no where near that.
My statement is, if you’re Hall, don’t piss and moan and ask for the #1 guy and then piss and moan when you get burnt, as he so often does.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

here, here
My statement is, if you’re Hall, don’t piss and moan and ask for the #1 guy and then piss and moan when you get burnt, as he so often does.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The expression is "Hear, Hear"

but again, I don’t fault Hall for that play. Nobody can cover a receiver for that long. Roydell Williams could get open against Nnamdi Asomugha with the kind of time Romo had, let alone Dez Bryant against Hall. It all comes back to “what the hell was Haslett thinking?”

by TheDeepBall on Sep 27, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the British version, the American version is here, here and the Canadian version is hear, here

French Canadian version is here, hear if you wondering

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

beer beer

is the Irish version

by preppiejack on Sep 27, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

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by MagicHat on Sep 27, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take the match-up of Roydell Williams vs Asomugha

If I’m a coordinator, that’s when it’s ok to call that 8 man blitz lol

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to speak for Haslett but he was probably thinking, sack the QB and win the game.

We understand it was a broken play that took forever, we’re criticizing DHall b/c he constantly opens his yap and this is a situation he was asking to be in a year ago.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parks

I totally agree. People acting like it was obvious they were going to get burn are crazy. Parks you are a man among boys

by CommunistKevin on Sep 27, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't pin it on Rocca

he f’d up, it sucks, but at that point it didn’t impact the game the way everyone thinks. Had they gotten that 3 doesn’t mean the rest of the game goes the way it did and we finish with 19 points instead of 16.
For all we know, if we were up 9-6 and Dallas goes down and gets their 3 to tie it at 9, for all we know, the coaching staff might not have pressed the pedal down to go down and get 3 more to take the lead and could have been happy going into the half all tied up, it might not have been 12-9.
It’s a woulda shoulda coulda for something that can’t be critiqued because you don’t know what the alternative is.
What can be criticized however is something that could be controlled, and that’s coaching. I though Kyle and Haz both were spotty and THAT affected the entire course of the game.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The conspiracy theorist think Jurrah greased up that ball like a state fair hog.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh yes

But as inhuman as the Dallas players are, it wouldn’t impact them.
That’s just a question of our guys having the appropriate spikes for the field. Plus they played with the roof open and it was butt humid from what I heard. Cowboys didn’t have some unfair advantage other than home field

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You heard wrong
Plus they played with the roof open and it was butt humid from what I heard.

The people saying this are making tremendous excuses. It was around 80 degrees and 44% humidity. Obviously the dome is opened when the weather is nice, which was the case last night, and it is opened when fans are allowed to enter the stadium, which happens to coincide with warm ups. This is by far the lamest conspiracy theory ever and is frankly embarrassing as a Skins fan to me.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its embarrassing that humidity exists?

I know we were slipping, but I don’t pin it on some field sabotage. I just think it’s another teams place and you don’t know the intricacies of the turf and how it responds like you do your own.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No not that part,

That Skins fans are saying it was Jurrah’s plan to open the roof at a specific time so the Redskins were caught off guard by the field. That’s what is an embarrassing excuse. And I don’t think it was that humid.

If you remember the field was very slick for the Super Bowl and the roof was closed for that one.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

win win

For all we know, if we were up 9-6 and Dallas goes down and gets their 3 to tie it at 9, for all we know,

by Elaw6 on Sep 27, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle and Haz

I agree 100%. Some of the play calls were excellent while others were dubious.

by Elaw6 on Sep 27, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with D. Hall

The same house blitz over and over and over.

Why is Rex constantly looking over his shoulder when attempting to scramble. That defeat was tough based on how we lost.

by Elaw6 on Sep 27, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rocca play was horrible,

but I have to wonder if the reason he missed was because he had to look up to make sure Sensebaugh wasn’t gonna snatch it. It seemed at the time Gerald got thru pretty easily.

What the shit

by tony420 on Sep 27, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The turf?

Anyone notice our guys slipping a whole bunch throughout the game? Everyone was slipping when they tried to make a cut.

by goatboy09 on Sep 27, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

look up...

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Didn’t see that.

by goatboy09 on Sep 27, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure it was probably from the sweat. It was a hot night in Dallas for the game because they opened up the roof.

by xocnodnarb on Sep 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night showed what a franchise QB in crucial moments could do

vs guys who aren’t the answer. People will tell you that their numbers are similar, but the eyeball test will tell you that Romo did win that game for them when he needed to get the points to do so. It doesn’t always need to be a sexy stat line to prove a guy can get it done for you when everything else is sputtering.
So while some may defend Grossman, who is our QB this year, I just know that he is not the kind of guy that you can rely on in those situations. The search is not over people.

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do we use a punter as our holder?

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by SpartanFS47 on Sep 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why not?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

since his hands are in practice enough for catching long snaps.

and since special teamers practice together, so a punter as a holder gets a ton more reps with the kicker than a back-up qb.

by preppiejack on Sep 27, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

most teams do

Very few teams use the qb as the holder. Kickers and punters usually work together, anyway, during practice, during warmups, and at halftime.

by BAFGA on Sep 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do you want a QB?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

grasping for straws round these parts,eh?

i get it. you got beat by a MASH unit that couldnt even muster a touchdown, and to face the fact your team is still pretty awful. Sounds like our whole season last year.. but really? The Seattle play?? oh well.. see yall next game ;)

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by doubleleg on Sep 27, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not the most horrible loss.

We’ll be fine. I hate to say last night was a good loss but this loss will make the Skins better as a unit in the long run, and it’s a good thing it came so early in the season to a rival. We just need to finish teams… I can’t take another season of near heart attacks with two minutes remaining in the game every game.

by xocnodnarb on Sep 27, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

This one stung

And that’s a good thing, I guess. For the first time in a LONG time (probably since Snyder took over), I felt something after a loss. Maybe I’m regaining my spirit for this team.

by BAFGA on Sep 27, 2011 4:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Are you planning to share that peyote with the rest of the class.
I loved Rex Grossman last night.

ESPN total QBR for Grossman last night: 23.3. An average starting NFL QB should be at 50. Tony Romo, he of the broken ribs, was a 60.7 If you loved Grossman last night, I’d hate to see what you would consider a bad game.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going to have to call BS on that one

ESPN analyst have explained how that system works more than once.
The results are on the scale of 50 to 100

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Sep 27, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Look at it yourself.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7020879/nfl-week-3-total-qbr-leaders

Total QBR is a quarterback rating that takes into account all of a quarterback’s contributions (passing, rushing, sacks, fumbles, penalties) to his team’s scoring and winning and summarizes them into one number on a 0-100 scale, on which 50 is average.
Total QBR

For a game, the number can be interpreted as a percentile, so a score of 80 means a quarterback’s performance is in the 80th percentile of all quarterbacks’ games.

Grossman was 27th out of the 33 players rated.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, you beat me to it. Ignore me, I am a complete idiot today

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Sep 27, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The papers say Rex's QB rating was 77, vs Tony's 70

It was pretty typical Rex – generally good, but mistake prone.

by Donnio1234 on Sep 27, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN's QBR

is more subjective (I think “Clutch” is intangible, and therefore unmeasurable). After hearing the MNF crew last night, I’m sure they love being able to create some body of proof that deemed Romo the king of football just to back up the knob polishing they gave him after his 0 TD/1 Int performance.

by Righte on Sep 27, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It isn't subjective, not in the slightest...

it was developed by Brian Burke at advancednflstats.com. The numbers are good, and if you look at the leaders for 2010, you’ll see that it passes the eyeball test.

‘Contrairiwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might
be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s
logic.’ — Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll

by TerroristFistJab on Sep 27, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's much more accurate

Regular qb rating isn’t a good predictor of wins. Tqbr is a much better indicator of which team wins the game

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha

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by Parks Smith on Sep 28, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I may just be depressed from last night... but... in my opinion (1x1an)... 2 things became clear last night!

1. Our Defense is (mostly) fixed. The Cowboys were not able to score a TD… had to win with FGs. That is amazing… but our Defense can’t do it alone… They looked exhausted by the end of the game (no rest time).

2. I’m starting to change my mind about not trading up for a QB next draft. Rex is better than last year… but… I couldn’t help but think, how we could have won… with a better QB. I’m not just talking about having a cannon for an arm… Its also about “time management”, mobility, reading defenses, etc. At this point (I may change my mind later), I think a young franchise QB is a must, if we want to move forward.

by 1x1an on Sep 27, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Shanahan knows this
I think a young franchise QB is a must, if we want to move forward.

You can tell by his play calling. The announcers were talking about the playcalling in game. I’ve seen multiple national writers today talking about how they are trying to limit Rex’s opportunities to make mistakes. Mistakes he is guaranteed to make given the opportunity.

I love how you always put your screen name up after your “in my opinion”. Without that, I might think it was Parks’ opinion!

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of HH bloggers will write something... then deny ever stating it!

I stand behind my opinions, and put my name next to them :-)

I’ve always been against “moving up” in drafts. I was elated when we kept “moving down” this year (best draft ever). Having said that, I think for the 1st time in my life… I’m starting to think, it might be a good move to trade up (if we have to) to get the QB we want.

by 1x1an on Sep 27, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely deny(1x1an)

that I have every criticized Rex Grossman. He is clearly the best thing since sliced bread.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

#Truth

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rotoworld on Hall:

“He remains the quintessential “big hat, no cattle” NFL star."

by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

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by Parks Smith on Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad call Haz...

No way in hell you call an all out blitz on 3rd and 21 with basically the game on the line. Nobody would even do that on Madden. Still got love for ya Haz!!

by Chillz on Sep 27, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Great call

You’re crazy why wouldn’t you blitz? Look at good defensive team, green bay,ravens and pitt always rush they live and die by it. Stupid to call prevent D. What let the cowboys get 10 yards on third down and then on fourth another ten?

Stop with the play calling for once the Skins did well and just came up short. We are not an allstar team we average players so just chill.

by goatboy09 on Sep 27, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post.

This one was tough to swallow. Very very tough. My gut still hurts.
But games like these develop character.
We have a young team and I look forward to the Skins more this year than in the past couple of years.

Hail everyone. Keep your chin up.

Bleeding Burgundy and Gold while raising Hogs in the backyard as I piss on a cowboy star.
HTTR!!

by BM22 on Sep 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Ive thot about it and i blame the game on jammal brown

He gave up to much pressure off his side along with a false start and he stalled drives which had trickle down effect on the whole game shorter drives on offense causes the defense to be on the field more which causes them to wear down thus the questionable play call goes wrong because of fatigue factor…

by BmoreRedskin on Sep 27, 2011 6:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I like Rex Grossamn

And I’m not putting last nights game all on him but we will never get very far with him either. That fumble at the end of the game pretty much sums his career. So close yet so far away.
Shanahan and co. remade the defense this year while just filling in the offense. I believe that Shanahan will make over the offense this coming offseason. It’s a good start but we need a bigger,stronger QB if we ever want to get to the SB. Maybe a Guard/Center and we’ll need a bigger receiver to step up at some point.
With all that said, I still think we can make the playoffs this year and I still think this team is going to win 8-10 games this year.

by skinsymets on Sep 27, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree with your points.

I also think Shanny will address the offense more in the offseason (i hope).
Rex is just a stop-gap for us. I don’t know how long he will last if he keeps turning the ball over.

Beck might be trimming that mullet as we speak just in case he gets a chance.

Bleeding Burgundy and Gold while raising Hogs in the backyard as I piss on a cowboy star.
HTTR!!

by BM22 on Sep 27, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed (in part)

Rex has to progress and prove that he is not who everyone says he is…until then, I am not sold.

However, I love the fact that our Defense (for the most part) is set, so our off-season should be heavily focused on Offense. With the D that we have been seeing (maybe pick up another D-back) and a the creation of a high power offense…We will then see the fruits of being faithful through the rough DECADE+ of Redskins Football! HTTR!!

Now they see why we love our skins so much...HTTR!!!

by Legacee on Sep 28, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

8 to 10 wins would be impressive

This is the same offense we’ve had for several years now. The defensive game plan hasn’t changed one iota. Double moss. Single the other receivers, and send everyone else to stop the run. Game over.

but I agree with your point about remaking the offense. Did as much as they could this year. Next year, most of the draft goes on offense.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 27, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna know

What happened to Fred Davis. After being the star of the offense the first two games, he disappeared on National TV. I hope this doesn’t become a habit.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Sep 27, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We desperately need to beat St Louis

If we can, we’re 3-1 going into the bye, and facing a substantially easier road than most other division foes and, in fact, than most other wild card candidates. And Philly is looking beatable, though still tough. Several other opponents are looking a little weaker than expected (SF, Stl, Sea, Miami), with two – Buffalo and Carolina – looking tougher than I figured.

by Donnio1234 on Sep 27, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Just finished trolling

Over at the Eagles blog and read a power rankings they had listed. We were 14, Giants 11, Cowboys 12, they were listed at 20. Interesting, but what struck me was they had Detroit at #2. Detroit is obviously playing good, smash mouth ball right now and I don’t see anyone slowing them down anytime soon. Made think back to when they started rebuilding, when Calvin was drafted? Then Stafford and finally Suh? It’s been over three years, but look at the Lions right now.
    Then look at our defense. Bring back Jarvis, along with Ryan, Brandon Thompson, Nield and Gnomes and add them to Laron, OJ, Wilson, London and Orackpo. Guys we have a helluva base that is going to be scary next year and montrous in 2013. You know Mike will add some more to defense in the draft and in my uneducated, non-NFL head coach opinion, he’ll focus on the offense and build on Helu, Trent, and Fred Davis along with Cooley and Young. Our oline still has some work, but remember, NO OFFSEASON, NO OTAs, NO MINICAMPS. Patience. I think we have an outstanding core on the field and the practice squad has some real promise. This year is going to be frustrating for all the right reasons.
1. We have a team that we can have genuine hope in.
2. When we lose one like last night, it will hurt because we know we should have won it, not because we got our asses handed to us or because we weren’t the better team.
3. Our defense is nearly 50% new to this team and system. Laron’s first game with Atogwe was last night. Offensive line is coming together and that’s with a new C, new G, sophomore LT and Jamaal just now 100%. Even the great Chris Samuels got beat every once in a while. Gano is still a kid, some call his mom, don’t think she knows he’s playing adult games and Rocca hasn’t been in country, what two months yet?

Take it for what’s worth, but I think we need to take this one in stride and take solace in the future. The Redskins are coming.

by MAJSkinsfan on Sep 27, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

We've got em at home

“CAN’T WAIT…”

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by adamvolo on Sep 27, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

just going to say

there is almost certainly no need for 8-man rush on a 3rd and 21, ever, and that was not time for an exception

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by hscer on Sep 27, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, Did you hear about the train that derailed last night in Texas?!?!

Tony Romo put it back on the track with one arm……..impressive.

HEY! If you were a hotdog, would ya eat yourself?

by jellis113 on Sep 27, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't mind so much as we lost, as that I now cannot wait

for the draft. It seems so damn far away, but I’ll be buying that QB jersey. Whether it’s Luck, Barkley, Tannehill, Jones, Foles, or somebody else, I will have a brand spanking new Nike Redskins QB jersey. And that’s when things get serious.

by Andrew DeFrank on Sep 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

How is this possible?
I don’t believe in the “Good Rex, Bad Rex” nonsense.

Rex proved this good/bad theory on Monday night – all in one game.

That INT? awful.

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by smutsboy1 on Sep 28, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

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