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Ten Yard Fight: If A Feel-Good Story Develops In Washington, Will Anyone Outside of Washington Feel It?

1. Every game during the course of an NFL season is a test. Starting 2-0 just means we've taken two tests so far and passed them both, but I don't automatically consider us at the top of the league by a long shot. Before you discount where we stand though, just look at Baltimore getting beat by Tennessee or the enthusiastic start to the season by Buffalo. Those are both stories that underline the value of our situation. We are not the greatest 2-0 team to ever strap on pads and helmets, but two wins in two tries is just about as good as you can do at this point--just ask the Ravens. I feel like when people ask me how the Redskins are doing, they expect me to immediately cop to not being a "for real" 2-0 team. I only pick on the Ravens because most people seem to agree they are a better team than the Redskins, but I am pretty sure they would settle for whatever kind of 2-0 we are.

2. Storylines in the NFL are both manufactured and organically grown. The manufactured ones are forced upon us during the offseason and in the opening weeks. The Redskins have had a good run over the last decade of manufacturing storylines. But the organic storylines that develop as a season progresses are far more interesting and fun to follow. The story of the 2011 Washington Redskins is potentially one of the better organically grown stories of the NFL. Nobody--except for crazy old Mike Lombardi--predicted any measure of success for this team whatsoever. When we whoop that ass on Monday Night Football next week, watch how the story of this team really starts to take off nationally. For one more week, it will just still be our secret.

3. I am rarely--if ever--accused of being a very smart man. I think the smartest thing I said all day on Sunday was, "The wind just totally weaponized that burrito." (This also explains why this morning, my fantasy football team name was changed from 3rd and Schlong to Weaponized Burrito.) Every once in a while though, I hit on a vein of intelligence...picking the Rams to destroy the Giants clearly was not an example of that. Seriously St. Louis...you just gift-wrapped that one man. 

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4. The numbers suggest that when you start the season 2-0, you have a 50% chance of making it to the playoffs (loosely interpreted of course.) Yesterday, I took the playoff side of that coin toss. Considering that as recently as a month ago, you couldn't find anyone outside of this fanbase to place a number higher than 0% on our playoff chances, I'd say zero to fifty in two weeks is pretty damn good.

5. Regardless of which Cowgirls players will or will not be available next Monday, Rob Ryan will be coaching that defense. Now that Ryan has a couple weeks of film to watch both of his own guys as well as of our offense, we should get a real legit gameplan thrown at us. Our offensive line will be poked and prodded like an amateur adult film actress. (You know what...she is an actress. You try acting like it is completely normal and acceptable that seven dudes who just minutes ago were fixing the cable are now taking turns...uhhhh...making love to you.) As far as tests go, this next one will be our biggest one yet, and will really put a fine point on our chances of making some noise this year.

6. As the season wears on, we will begin to fully appreciate what a break we caught by not having to face a healthy Justin Tuck in Week One.

7. It sounds like LaRon Landry might be ready to go for this game. It is crazy how much that one play at the start of the Monday Night Massacre influences my memory of him last season. While he was playing very hurt that night, the lasting image of Landry from 2010 is him getting burned by DeSean Jackson AND the back judge. (Seriously, that referee was moving.) When Landry was healthy, he was a Defensive Player of the Year candidate. If we are able to add that in Week Three for a nationally televised showdown against the Cowgirls, I would feel extremely warm and fuzzy about our chances.

8. Prediction: Ryan Kerrigan will knock Tony Romo out of the game. No, I am not wishing further injury or pain on Romo...I am merely stating that he is one hard shot away from missing significant time in 2011. If you want an even more specific prediction, I think that Kerrigan will beat Derrick Dockery for the sack. (I don't think Dock will start the game, but I think he will see the field.)

9. Despite the fact that the NFL has seemingly morphed into a pass-happy flag league, a defense's ability to stop the run will still separate the top of the league from the bottom of the league. Right now, the Redskins are giving up 84 yards per game on the ground, but at a 4.8 yards per carry clip. The Giants and Cardinals were forced to become at least partially one-dimensional at times during the first two weeks (the Giants more so, obviously.) Sure...Romo is a good enough quarterback for a coach to put the game on his shoulders, but I think we would all agree that we want the game on his shoulders (and those ribs.) If Dallas can't get a running game going against us, we should be sitting very pretty.

10. I am not looking past the Cowgirls, but since the Rams were on last night and we get them in two weeks, I thought I would just say that Sam Bradford looks like the real deal. I got the sense that if they had Steven Jackson and Danny Amendola on the field, they would have won the game. Two first-half mistakes could have potentially been avoided: Amendola probably doesn't fumble the punt that rookie George Salas did that set up a Giants touchdown, and Steven Jackson probably doesn't ignore a backwards pass while Michael Boley races to collect it and take it to the house. This is the dangerous game of coulda-woulda-shoulda at its wackiest, but in two weeks we could be looking at a different Rams squad that could be less mistake-prone. If that is the case, we will have to be on our A game.

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Monday Night Football Baby! The whole NFL world will be watching

We will either show the world the Redskins are LEGIT or we will be pretenders.

by jmpalomo on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

MNF has not been good for the Redskins the last few years

Excepting, of course, against Dallas. We’ve had some success on MNF in the last twenty years against them.

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

But they cut the Redskins MVP

Washington beating Dallas was almost wholly attributable in those games to the Redskins best player in those games being on the Dallas roster – S Roy Williams. Much harder to beat them without him on the team.

I’m no doctor, but it is hard for me to imagine Romo playing effectively with a broken rib and punctured lung. Just doesn’t sound good.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want him to PLAY!

So Orakpo and Kerrigan can hit him in the ribs!
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by jmpalomo on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kitna is a decent quarterback. The Skins may have to take out two QBs on Monday. What is the report on Smith's

blocking so far? Apparently Doug Free did not do that well against the 49ers – http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/09/20/re-focused-cowboys-49ers/ "Game Notes

● Five of the six sacks Alex Smith absorbed were the result of blitzes. It wasn’t all bad though, when he wasn’t being sacked, he did complete nine of the 10 throws he got off in the face of blitzers.

● Seem like the 49ers’ offensive line played really bad? While they weren’t great, looks can be deceiving. Of the 20 Quarterback Disruptions they gave up (combined sacks, hits and hurries), nine came through unblocked. Chalk that one up to Rob Ryan and his blitzing ways.

● 66.7% of all aimed Cowboys passes were either at Jason Witten or Miles Austin."

With Miles Austin out with hammy problems, who will Dallas target besides Witten?

by Jefferson1935 on Sep 20, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he is questionable.

Jolly will probably see a lot of time. He made the team as a “reality star” got cut then picked back up just in time to make the decisive reception to get Dallas the win.

Enough of a feel-good story to be scary. What if he turns out to be the next Jerry Rice? Naaaaahhhaa….

What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -W. Clement Stone

by 1Goat on Sep 21, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still seen as an 8-8 team

High that they are playing like or better than an 8-8 team, it’s totally different than the past is the reason for the excitment.

And “A win is a Win” explains

but I am pretty sure they would settle for whatever kind of 2-0 we are.

It’s all about winning, last time I checked
Dallas Sucks, Blow out game is coming!

by dr WNC on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Um. Ew.
Our offensive line will be poked and prodded like an amateur adult film actress.

What the fuck does that mean? Oh wait, I get it. Ew.

"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan

by DCO'sfan on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

And for a substance post:

I agree that Kerrigan will knock out the flaming queen who is the Cowboys quarterback (if he even plays), but I was perusing BTB yesterday, and they seem to think that Kitna can be effective as his backup. That is something I doubt, and hopefully we take advantage of Kitna’s utter suckitude.

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by DCO'sfan on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Going off last year

There really isn’t a huge drop off.
I don’t think Romo missing the game would be that big of a los for them, Austin will be huge.

by PJ_21 on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know

The status if Dez Bryant. That’s the only guy on the ’Pokes that really scares me. Maybe if he plays not at 100%, Landry will knock him back to 30.

by CJHutch on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it possible for us to talk shit without resorting to homophobic slurs?

just wondering.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Using gay with a negative connotation is a slur

Calling Romo a homo or gay or a “flaming queen” seems to be about the most creative insult most people can come up with.

It’s unoriginal, unfunny and demeaning to gay people.

People should try harder.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about "Chokeboy"?

Oh, wait, that might still be considered a homophobic slur.

(think about it).

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Sep 20, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've got almost the entirety of the English language at your disposal

You’re intelligent.

I have faith you can insult Romo w/o insulting an entire group of marginalized people.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if we're talking about whether he likes "tight ends" or "wide receivers"...

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is kind of the problem.

The HOMOPHONE of his name (<- NOTE: NOT A SLUR, it means “Sounds the same”) with something that IS a slur, along with the easy “Tight End” and “Wide Receiver” comments, along with his general ability to CHOKE in big games and the leaguewide (and NFC East especially) hatred of all things Dallas, along with the way he actually has conducted himself over the years (the trip to Mexico, etc.) lead to a bit of contempt for him.

So, how should we do it address him?

Tony “I can’t play under pressure” Romo?
Tony “Choke Artist” Romo?
Tony “The Chokeman” Romo?
None of those work.

Unfortunately none of those work. If his last name had been Pollack, we’d call him the Polock… but that would be just as offensive to others. We could do the same thing and denigrate him if his name was any one of a few dozen different names. But until he EARNS the right not to have the denigration, people will do it (nobody makes jokes about Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, for example, but yet that talk about “Baby Boy Manning” to denigrate Eli)

So let it ride, Smuts, let it ride.

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like...Chokeymon.

A bit dated, but….

What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -W. Clement Stone

by 1Goat on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comparing Romo to gay people

is an insult to gay people, not the other way around.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we use bisexual and heterosexual slurs?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 20, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there's a hetereosexual slur?

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

slut, whore, bitch, and a certain word that rhymes with hunt that is sure to get you in trouble if you use it.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want to rephrase that sentence?

I mean depending on what the word “use” means there. And with who.

BTW, the first is easy, the second is pricy, and the third is a dog.

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Sep 20, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And best probably avoided too.

I can think of about 50% of the population who may not want to hear those terms.

I don’t, and I’m a guy.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You asked

I didn’t encourage their use, just pointing out that they exist.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2.84672947

So sick of PC crap.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah! you have a RIGHT to insult an entire group of marginalized people!

they should just get over it!

your needs are more important!

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, calm the fuck down

you’re acting like nobody else has ever been wronged. If the use of a word is the biggest problem someone has I’d say they have it pretty damn good.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 20, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

irrelevant to the point.

using gay as a slur is offensive.

“there are bigger problems” isn’t actually a defense of the practice.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have I ever told you your profile image looks really gay?

lol

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

smuts it's the internet quit trying to regulate it.

most of the younger generation are very accepting of alternate sexual orientations. I have know gay guys that use the term “gay” as lame. i’ve heard one of them say to their partner, “oh stop being such a fag” It was hilarious.

The fact is that language is constantly evolving and the words gay/fag/homo are not necessarily backed with hate towards the homosexual comunity. just like Moron no longer refers to mentally retarded people and idiot no longer refers to people having an IQ of less than 25. If you called me a moron I wouldn’t assume that you are a bigot towards mentally challenged people.

by skinsfan28 on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

havnt you guys seen this episode of south park?

the one with the motorcycle gang and the gay community? “fag” was offically changed to acknowledge people acting like assholes and no longer is a reference to homosexuality

Hail to 'Em

by SkinsaneAsylum on Sep 20, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

People can say whatever they want.

they just have to OWN what they are saying and acknowledge that many many MANY people are hurt by that language, even if some other people of the same group are not.

Say whatever want, know that some people, a lot of people, are hurt by your language.

Whether you care is, obviously, up to you.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smuts I think everyone gets your crusade and I'm sure a lot applaud.

But are “MANY” people offended/hurt here? No

Rule #1: Audience analysis

Just let it go man, you may not find the jokes funny but some do and this is an open forum. You have openly admitted the word “Redskins” is a slur, but I’m positive you’ve used the word hundreds of times here. Times have changed, some words don’t sting as much or aren’t as taboo. Do you get in a tizzy every time the N word is used in a rap song?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 20, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because you are free to say something

doesn’t mean that you should, or that others can’t call you out for it.

With great power comes great responsibility.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it actually has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment at all.

learn your history.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

It’s no more offensive than calling someone a “dumbass” or “inbred hillbilly”. Wouldn’t that be insulting to dumbasses and inbreds everywhere? But people still call each other that. “fag” isn’t exactly the only derogatory language out there you know.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 20, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patently wrong.
It’s no more offensive than calling someone a "dumbass" or "inbred hillbilly".

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you not insulting inbreds

by using it as a term to insult someone else? Not like they can help what their parents did. Why does one group of people get a pass from you and not others?

by TheDeepBall on Sep 20, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not trying to be a fag

I just think everyone can be insulted. Nobody gets special rights to not be the smeared queer once in awhile.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and contrary to what any PC teacher or politician might tell you

I DO have the right to insult an entire group of people. It’s called Freedom of Speech.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not an issue about "want", it's the fact the we have the right to do it and if you don't like it...tough.

No group has the right to demand special protection free from criticism.

Not to mention, the ones demanding special protection the most are usually the worst when it comes to insulting other groups of people. They’re total hypocrites.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

"criticism"? using gay as a slur is not "criticism"

it’s a bigoted statement and is based in rejection and hate.

It’s a free, country, do whatever you want, but don’t pretend you’re not insulting a VERY marginalized group of people.

Don’t pretend YOUR rights are the ones being trampled here.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shall I go through the dictionary to list every word that describes my right to freedom of speech?

By telling me what I can or can’t say, you are attacking my rights.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have the right to say what you want

it doesn’t mean that everyone else has to listen to it without objection. Nazi’s have the right to spew their garbage, but I bet you would object if they brought it on here.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're failing basic civics here.

Freedom of Speech refers to govt censorship.

I, as an individual, have no effect on your “rights” whatsoever.

What’s at issue is you being criticized for using an offensive term.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're failing pretty much everything

You’re not criticizing. You’re demanding everyone conform to your way of thinking. You’re trying to shove your PC bull shit down everyone’s thoats – instead you need to take that crap and shove it right up your ass.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

you’re making a strong argument for your side.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have ZERO patience for dicks like you who try to suppress free speech.

Go play “internet police” somewhere else.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you still don't understand what free speech means

I’m surprised you love it so much, yet remain so confused about it.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, Everyone on here is completely confused about freedom of speech except you.

LMAO! Get an education.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 21, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, only you

and the handful of other people who think one person can limit someone’s freedom of speech.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said that.
one person can limit someone’s freedom of speech.

You can TRY to limit me, but you’ll fail. I’ve already proven that…fag.

But I guess you and the silent majority know better. LOL!

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 21, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have ZERO patience for dicks like you who try to suppress free speech.

focus man! your deeply held belief that you are justified in using bigoted language is slipping!

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not an issue about “want”, it’s the fact the we have the right to do it and if you don’t like it…tough.

But I asked you a question. I am curious as to your reasoning for why you want to “exercise this right” in this way? Of course you have freedom of speech and press, but why would you abuse that right just for the sake of it? There must be some reason, and that is what I was curious about.

Everyone has the “right to bear arms” but that doesn’t mean that you HAVE to go out and buy a gun. Some people want it for self protection, etc. though. And because they have a reason to do it, they exercise the right.

So what is your personal reason for “exercising the right of freedom of speech” in using profane or abusive slurs?

by preppiejack on Sep 20, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the moment, I'm doing it just because its bothering smutsboy1

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I feel that this is a poor use of our "freedom of speech" in part because this is not an Adult website, and plenty of children who are Redskins fans come on here to read about their beloved team.

I know I wouldn’t want my children reading that accidentally and then having it become part of their language.

This is in fact the reason that I think, unless totally necessary, curse words like F***, S***, A$$****, etc. shouldn’t be used here at HogsHaven.

This is a fun website for all Redskins fans, and I think it would be a shame to have to shield younger folks from this community just because people insist on using curse words and prejudicial slurs.

Just my two cents, but I would encourage you to at least consider that in the future as you choose when and how to exercise your rights.

by preppiejack on Sep 20, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

if your kids are on the internet, they're reading much worse on other sites and you may not be aware of it.

this site is the least of your worries.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 20, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is probably true.

I could get into a debate about filtering certain sites, and setting up only certain websites for access- but that really is ancillary to my point.

Just because its a shame the internet can be a filthy place, doesn’t mean that we have to contribute to it.

I’m really not trying to sound like the moral police here (and I will stop commenting on the issue), but again I just think it is best to keep this place clean and fun for all Skins fans regardless of age/gender/race and political, social, or religious views. That’s the way Darrell Green would want it…

by preppiejack on Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great statement
Just because its a shame the internet can be a filthy place, doesn’t mean that we have to contribute to it.

Rec.d

by ENsDad27 on Sep 20, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will keep that in mind for future posts & comments

I never thought about kids reading Hogs Haven. Also, for the record, I completely agree with Smutsboy, no need to insult a group who already have it tough & btw, wasn’t one of the greatest Redskin TEs also gay??

by ENsDad27 on Sep 20, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

what disease?

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Look it up yourself

Or here might give you enough information to start.

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Sep 21, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't speak on behalf of society.

Using gay as a negative term hurts a lot of people, as does the word ‘retard’ (ask most people who have a mentally handicapped friend or family member).

You’re free to do whatever you want, but OWN the decision you’re making to use words that hurt large groups of people.

People who live in mortal fear of political correctness are usually straight white people who just want “the others” to “get over it”.

The newsflash is that it’s not up to the dominant group to regulate who is offended by what.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 20, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like calling someone "mentally handicapped "

is any better. Its not the words, but the context in which they are used. if i call Romo a retarded faggot that does not mean any thing because of the context its used. I am not slurring Romo at all. He is not “mentally handicapped” or gay. Gay people call themselves fags and faggots. “Redskins” is in itself derogatory to people and we use it all the time. We are not calling people “Redskins”, we are calling a team “Redskins” because that is the name of the team. I just call them Skins. So if I call Witten a terd thats not a slur because Witten is not a piece of shit. Now, if I call him an inbred reject from his "uncle"s trailer park, that could be a slur because it might be true. If every word that had some negative overtone were eliminated from the English language there wouldn’t be any Republicans.

by hambonejackson on Sep 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now, if I call him an inbred reject from his "uncle"s trailer park, that could be a slur because it might be true.

by Bullet Nation in Exile on Sep 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not true... and Frankly I agree with DCO here.

My brother is mentally handicapped, but that doesn’t mean I don’t call my friends retards when they do something moronic… now if someone calls a mentally handicapped person a retard, you will REALLY piss me off. Context does matter, I mean I realize some people are more sensitive than others, but I’m also tired of being a little TOO politically correct. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

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by TerpsAllTheWay on Sep 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm just pointing out language I find offensive

it’s actually most other people here who whining a little too much.

whether you’re tired of people being offended at potentially offensive language is irrelevant to everything.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

neither should you

“You shouldn’t speak on behalf of society. "

by skinsfan28 on Sep 21, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're arguing for the legitimacy of you using a word that is offensive to many peopl

and I’m pointing out that it’s offensive to people.

That you see these two things as equal pretty much says it all.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you weren't just pointing it out.

Exhibit A:

You’ve got almost the entirety of the English language at your disposal

You’re intelligent.

I have faith you can insult Romo w/o insulting an entire group of marginalized people.

Exhibit B:

yeah! you have a RIGHT to insult an entire group of marginalized people!

they should just get over it!

your needs are more important!

You’re attacking people for using an “offensive” word. Personally, I don’t find any gay people objecting ON THIS BLOG. And we’ve made plenty of jokes about Romo in the past, most of which pertain to his name that happens to rhyme with Homo. You’re objecting because YOU are assuming that most people are so thin-skinned (“marginalized” people) and can’t understand reality: people will say what they want to, and protesting to “eliminate the R-word” won’t do anything to change that.

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by DCO'sfan on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

you equated the unimportance of you using an offensive term with me being offended at a term that MANY people find offensive.

There’s not much else for me to say.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Many" people?

Stop assuming. I would also find it much more credible if you weren’t so self-righteous and speaking for “marginalized” parts of society, which I doubt you are a part of. Until I see a gay guy/women objecting on this board, I’m not going to feel the slightest bit bad (even then I might ignore it because it’s not a big deal). When you preach like this about how people are oppressed by meaningless words, I say: man the fuck up. That’s the real world. Taking offense at every derogatory slur is just a recipe for an unhappy existence. What YOU should do, is lighten the fuck up and ignore it because very few people care on this board besides you. And those who do aren’t calling people unintelligent because we call Romo a flaming queen. YOU are.

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by DCO'sfan on Sep 21, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

your right to use those words is more important than people's right to not have to read that shit on this blog.

got it.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's amazing how many supporters you have.

I don’t want to read your preachy, PC bullshit either. Try that on for size.

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by DCO'sfan on Sep 21, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Next thing you know we’ll be giving trophies to kids on the losing team in competitive sports… oh wait we’ve already lost the concept of winning and losing.

Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.

by TerpsAllTheWay on Sep 21, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you just equate not using language rooted in bigotry with giving out little league trophies?

that says a lot.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 22, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

you ignored the point b/c it forces you to think about how other people feel

but it’s all about your right to use language some find offensive, right?

No.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 22, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem tho is that

most likely there are fans of the Redskins who are gay that read these posts & by using derogatory names we are insulting them.I couldn’t care less about hurting Tony Romo’s feelings but I do think that we are attacking a part of our fanbase when we demean them. It’s not just semantics when the people you are talking about are also part of the people you are talking to.

by ENsDad27 on Sep 20, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And some of those fans

might take offense to the name “Redskins” and yet you use it. Will you stop calling the team the “Redskins” because some people may take offense?

by hambonejackson on Sep 20, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am white

if someone wants to call Garrett a red neck Dart parking honky, it doesn’t bother me because it is not directed at me.

by hambonejackson on Sep 20, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually try to write "R*dskins" as much as possible

to show that I’m not going to quit the team over it, but I think our name is offensive.

"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Sep 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find you offensive

Can you stop being yourself?

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Sep 21, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kitna is a more than acceptable back-up QB...

he is a smart player with a good arm and tons of game experience. He could be a starter on several tams in the NFL.

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by MagicHat on Sep 21, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

so much for being 2nd worst in the league, but all the way up to 11? come on.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 20, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

DIE DALLAS

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Sep 20, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm going with cautiously optimistic

We’re getting another big opportunity by playing a division rival with key injuries. If there’s going to be any chance at the post season this is a must win.

by SkinsOsTerps on Sep 20, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I just want us to

make the playoffs. You can’t argue with fate. All of the powerhouse teams in the East are falling off the wall and breaking like Humpty Dumpty. They are all injury riddled and bring to the forefront the importance of roster depth.

Shanahan’s philosophy of “competition at every position” is coming to light now. The falloff from the starter to the backup is not that steep for us. Maybe on the online, but the other backups are performing well enough in my opinion.

The Giants can talk all the smack they want, but they looked horrible last night in their win. The Rams looked more horrible and have no depth at WR or RB. The couldn’t catch and they couldn’t run. Cadillac should get benched or cut for his lack of concern or effort on that backwards pass. I’m sure there are plenty of PS RBs that could do a better job.

I figured Vick would get hurt again this year but never thought it would happen in the pocket. Dunno if he’ll play next week but, I still think they can beat the Giants with Kafka.

Nonetheless, I like our chances against Dallas next week. Yes, they’re dinged up pretty bad and we should win. The difference between this year and last year is I believe we’ll win the games we should. If we stay healthy ourselves, I think we’ll do pretty good in the East this year.

Oh and BTW, is Buffalo for real this year?

by akshun172 on Sep 20, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Romo or Kitna

Am I the only one that would rather see us play a hurt Romo than a healthy Kitna?

by Stokes32 on Sep 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually thought Kitna

was a pretty capable backup. But then he started throwing to other team. At this point I don’t care which one starts. I do know Romo won’t want to take a lot of hits and that’ll definitely affect his decision making.

by akshun172 on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

This sort of thing

nearly killed Drew Bledsoe. How can he even play?

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would imagine

it is a matter of degree. Beldsoe’s was clearly a much worse injury.

by l.pensinger on Sep 20, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

develops? I'm feeling good already

I like the progress and I think we’re well on our way to become a dominant team.

by aFan4Life on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

If Luck makes the transition to the pros

Then I could see him and Bradford quickly become the new big 2 in the league.

by wuds100 on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It's more impressive

How Bradford is doing it at this early stage without half the weapons of GB and Luck is doing a similar thing at Stanford,
Give these guys multiple targets 2-3 years of playbook and they could become unstoppable.

by wuds100 on Sep 20, 2011 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cam Newton

will be in the picture. He looks like the QB who might finally realize the potential of a Brady/Manning type passer combined with a Vick type runner.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

His early numbers

Are very impressive not sure how much AZ dared him to throw as the numbers where insane for a week 1 rookie starter.

by wuds100 on Sep 20, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not a Cowboy fan but....

    How can you not like Romo a bit after his performance yesterday? Not many, and maybe not even a few, would have even played after his injurie(s), much less have done so well in the 4th Qtr.

I'm not the Devil's Advocate but I consiider him a close friend

by Dipper on Sep 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

cause he's a choker and we love everytime he chokes

When the real truth comes out we will find out that he did not crack a rib or puncture a lung.
INDIGESTION!
It’s in his blood.

by jmpalomo on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You right. He played with heart. But the Redskins are gonna take him down Monday. No doubt.

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by RedskinsGirl on Sep 20, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's funny

I just had an hour conversation about burrito’s and how chipotle/qdoba/moes need’s to step their games up. I could get into details but I guess I won’t…

by travisjh86 on Sep 20, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, what is Chipotle's problem

Everybody knows it’s not a real burrito until it is twice the size of your head.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Sep 20, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I

Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -Aaron Levenstein

by MoMoMojo on Sep 20, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoops *._.*

I’m looking forward to some of the later games. So far so good, but I want to see how the Skins fare against teams that don’t look like a M*A*S*H unit in pads.

Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -Aaron Levenstein

by MoMoMojo on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honesty...

Teams that I’m keeping a close eye on are the Lions and Rams. They could become trouble down the road for us (keeping in mind they were last year) because they have both vastly improved the way they play ball. It’s easy coming off of wins such as we have to forget that the Lions and Rams (teams not associated with winning for most elite teams) are kind of in the same rebuild/growing phase that could prove to be great match ups in the coming season(s). I’m watching you Detroit (and kind of rooting for you in your division as well).

by Jpage0024 on Sep 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Too many injuries

on the Rams and no depth. The receivers aren’t catching and Cadillac is horrible. The Rams were able to move the ball easily on a beat up Giants secondary and could of won if it weren’t for so many drops. And Cadillac just sucks and can offer nowhere near the production of Jackson.

The Lions look good, too. But Kansas City? Really? KC look horrid this year. And the jury is still out for me on Tampa Bay (Both Detroit wins). “Best Team in the South” – Raheem Morris quote, not mine. I hate to say it but Detroit’s schedule looks just as soft as ours until they play Chicago in 3 weeks. The have Minn next week and a beat up Dallas after that. The could easily be 4-0. We’ll know more about Detroit when they’re really tested in Chicago.

Also, Detroit isn’t on our schedule this year. It would have to be a playoff game for us to be worried about them. Here’s hoping for a problem like that…..

by akshun172 on Sep 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine a playoff year

featuring the Redskins, Rams, Lions , and Bills?

The universe might implode.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 20, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I can remember such a year. We beat the Lions on our way to the Superbowl.

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I mean in the present day, after all that’s happened in the lest however many years.

by TheDeepBall on Sep 20, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I forgot to add....

we beat the Bills that year in the SB.

I was wearing one of those SB shirts just this past weekend. Been a long time since the last time I added one to my collection…… would be nice now that I’ve put on a few pounds.

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by BillWard on Sep 21, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams did not realize that Bradshaw throw was not a forward pass but a lateral. A 7 point gift to the Giants. There

was the pass to Hixon that kept on bouncing and landed on his lap for a TD when he was flat on his back – luck or what. Those few plays were about the margin for the loss.

by Jefferson1935 on Sep 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen to that Problem haha.

I think its fair to say that they are improving season to season though. They both had our number last year even when we were beating higher end teams. Much of that may be attributed to the playing down problem. I think right now though I will find myself watching more and more Lions and Rams games. I honestly say, like with our Skins, its probably very exciting to be at the very least a Detroit fan right now. And yes the universe would destroy itself haha.

by Jpage0024 on Sep 20, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Parks Smith on Sep 20, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s going to come down to what it always does…the play up front. Right now we’ve got a bit of a running game and the Cowboys are still a mess up front and as a very sad Felix Jones fantasy owner….well the Cowboys running game flat out sucks.

Now the Cowboys are ranked pretty high vs the run where as we were close to getting gashed by the likes of Beanie Wells so it may end up being a bit more even.

The big difference to me though is that we’re healthier and deeper as a team. The three biggest threats on the Cowboys are Romo, Austin, Bryant and Jones….all of them are hurt and questionable. On defense they aren’t get in the secondary and between Jenkins being half murdered by Plax two weeks ago and Trufant being hurt all the time they are thin…and their safeties have been liabilties for years.

With that said they should have beaten a pretty good Jets team (I still think they’re a bit overrated and just make plays) and barely beat a SF team QB’d by Alex Smith who is in his 425th different offense in 5 seasons. Not really sure what that means, but they weren’t horrible or terrific in either game.

The Skins on the other hand are probably a lot more balanced all the way around, have a better kicker and an explosive return game (if Bryant doesn’t return punts).

I think that it’s a great matchup and test for both teams…but the biggest thing is that we manhandled a pretty good Giants team and dealt with the let down the week after vs the Cards where as the Ravens completely let the Titans get away with one. I just think that we’re a better coached, healthier and deeper team right now.

All I know is that it’s going to be fun to see just how good we really are because this game is always great.

by It's Always Sunny in DC on Sep 20, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

You left out Whitten

He nearly always kills us. Esp. if Romo is QB.

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by 1Goat on Sep 21, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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