Did Trent Williams Just Reveal John Beck is the Starting QB? (Video)

by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 2, 2011 12:23 AM EDT in Redskins Analysis

In a fourth quarter interview of the Redskins final pre-season game versus Tampa, Trent Williams answered a question from Doc about how he feels playing so deep in a 4th pre-season game:

"I mean it fell alright. We got our starting Quarterback out there.....you know....we just....Rex or Beck...I mean....We had to be out there."

I've been in the camp that Shanahan believes Rex is the starting QB until Beck proves he deserves it. All of the certainty from major media claiming inside knowledge that Shanny has already anointed Beck surely does carry weight, but Shanny loves mind-f*cking the media. What does everyone make of this video? I watched a pre-game interview with Tim Hightower and one could tell he was sincerely eager to learn who the starter is sooner rather than later so they can start building a repertoire. Bravo...smoke screens.

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Basing it solely on the pre-season

Rex should be the starter. He has good timing and accuracy for the short to intermediate passes, long passes are blah. Beck is inconsistent with his short to intermediate passes, has the arm strength but his long balls are erratic too.

by 2up2down on Sep 2, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions

Not sure if that anaysis is completely stable

because Rex is also incredibly inconsistent too. Remember the horrible short throw against Indy that resulted in an INT?

by TheDeepBall on Sep 2, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Remember the players around him?

by 2up2down on Sep 2, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions

that means

You have to throw out last nights entire performance for Beck.
At this point, I don’t think it matters who starts. They will both see playing time. I was hoping Beck would establish himself, so we wouldn’t have to ever get on the GrossCoaster. But I think its inevitable. Both of them can run the offense, both are erratic, an neither is very good at connecting deep. Although I would give the edge to Beck there, just based on the couple he’s completed. I also think Rex had a better shot, by virtue of being able to play the first game. In the end, Rex seemed to have logged more time with the starters.

by CJHutch on Sep 2, 2011 5:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

IMO, Rex has clearly won the competition. He would be my week 1 starter against the Giants.

by brazilianbeast on Sep 2, 2011 1:24 AM EDT reply actions

Doesn't necessarily mean anything.

The ‘competition’ also includes camp, practice, and coaches’ opinion.

by Matty Felp on Sep 2, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Even though it seems Trent slipped

He probably doesn’t actually know anything about it. Even though Shanny is sneaky, I doubt he would tell the team already and tell them to hush.

by Matty Felp on Sep 2, 2011 1:37 AM EDT reply actions

After watching the video,

it seems more like Silverback wants Beck as the starting QB rather than actually knowing! It seems like a Freudian slip, but if true – it does explain why the starting OL were playing at all!

by Toosy_13 on Sep 2, 2011 2:18 AM EDT reply actions

Kinda makes sense he wants Beck

Beck has made himself known to the OL. Him and Jammal Brown are besties

by Matty Felp on Sep 2, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions

It was just an accident

I think he really just messed up. Also I love the whole Freudian slip comments and all of the people who say the players want beck to start? You are basing this off what? And can people stop with the whole beck is so awesome and wants it more because of interviews. Beck is just a guy who runs off at the mouth. Rex is more laid back and does not toot his own horn as much

by CommunistKevin on Sep 2, 2011 3:39 AM EDT reply actions

ha ha

Rex is more laid back and does not toot his own horn as much

Christ, I hope not. What’s to toot about? For either of them, really. Ok, so Rex wins the humble award. I was fine with Beck popping off his mouth if he could back it up, but he couldn’t. Basically, we found out what we pretty much already knew. That BOTH of these guys are career journeymen/backup quarterbacks. I’m pretty sure Shanny knows it too. He’ll just coach around their mediocrity.

by CJHutch on Sep 2, 2011 5:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I laughed when I saw that live

Doesn’t really mean too much though. But it’s funny to see people being giddy like a 5 year old on christmas eve about it.

by Nobetterthenbob on Sep 2, 2011 4:01 AM EDT reply actions

Anyone see Fat Al's interview saying he'd give $ back to not have spent the lasst 2 years in Washington?

I guess he forgot the part where he had a choice to get his release or the bonus and chose the bonus.

by cwbyh8r on Sep 2, 2011 5:39 AM EDT reply actions

Come on Kev....

I’ve been saying from Day 1 Rex is the starter Week 1. I think that can’t be more clear at this point, and I still don’t understand the all the blind kool aid support for Beck. I’ll support whomever is out there once the roster is cut down, but Beck was atrocious last night.

I actually feel bad for Niles Paul he would of had 3 TDs easy last night if Beck/Clemens weren’t playing duck hunt. The INT in the end zone was one of the worst throws I’ve ever seen.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 2, 2011 8:00 AM EDT reply actions

It's because of the media...specifically Jason Reid

Gruden and many other guys all saying Beck is the guy.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 2, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions

It's always been the media.

I’ve always thought it was Rex’s job until he totally f’s up. But was it ever a competition? Or was it all generated from the media and then Shanny trying to light a fire under Rex?

Let’s think about how the whole thing started…It was April, day after the draft and someone asked Shanny about Beck, Shanny had positive comments about Beck, I mean what was he going to say? “No this guy sucks. He’s worthless”? Then the next day the MEDIA was writing about how Beck may be the starter! All Shanny said was that he’s a nice player. I think if there was even a thought of starting Beck this year then we would of seen him in one of those four games last year.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 2, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions

what do you mean "blind support?"

I will agree you have been predicting Grossman from the start, but why are you saying that support for Beck is “blind”?

I was planning on Grossman as the starter as well and was pumped by the Pittsburgh game. And then I saw Beck play what I thought was a great half against the Colts, and then he made me think that he could be the starter. I hadn’t seen any poor performances from him like I had seen from Grossman in the past, so I trusted what I saw week 2 more than what I saw week 1.

I’m with you that I will support whoever the Skins trot out each week and I hope whoever is in destroys the other team. I still hope we go with Beck and think he will develop more more with experience, although I didn’t like what I saw last night. With Grossman I will never know whether to expect 3TDs and 0 Ints for the game, or 0TDs and 2 Ints with a fumble…

by RobtheRedskin on Sep 2, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Many people were supporting and calling for Beck w/o seeing him play a single down

but why are you saying that support for Beck is "blind"?

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by Parks Smith on Sep 2, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions

I give you....blind support

I hadn’t seen any poor performances from him like I had seen from Grossman in the past,

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by Parks Smith on Sep 2, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I know you have

been saying Rex is the starter and actually have been fairly observing the qb situation but we are in the minority. All people have to do is look at the total preseason numbers. Rex outplayed beck. It was not a draw as some people keep saying

by CommunistKevin on Sep 2, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm not big on stats, but the most telling stat I heard last night after the game...

was Rex’s QB rating vs. the starters and Beck’s QB rating vs. starters…. Rex blew him out.

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by Parks Smith on Sep 2, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions

its about potential for me

I want to see what beck can do if given time to grow in this offense. I don’t expect playoffs this year, and I don’t get if we go 6-10 with beck over 8-8 with rex if at the end of the season beck is lookin hawt N saucy.

Rex has his ceiling clearly defined, beck doesn’t in my opinion.

Rex has outplayed beck in the preseason but not drastically so. That is why I think beck will be your washington redskins starter.

We shall seeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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by Al_CaPWNED on Sep 2, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Parks, did you read my post before you responded to it?

I was basing my opinion of Beck off of the only playing time that I saw of him. How was that blind support? I saw Beck and the first team score 7 on Pittsburgh in 1 half and then I saw Beck and the first teamers score on 4 out of four drives in a half. I still don’t understand how it is blind support to like Beck after what I saw.

by RobtheRedskin on Sep 3, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Who knows who it is until the season starts

I would guess that based on Rex sitting last night, he’d quite obviously be the starter, at the same time though, Shanahan could have been giving Beck one last chance. Either way, I don’t know, and I feel equally uncomfortable with both Rex and Beck as my starting QB, so I’m indifferent.

by BigOLinemen on Sep 2, 2011 9:08 AM EDT reply actions