Rexy's performance #7 among NFL QB's week 1

by darthredskin on Sep 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT

If you take into account the new "Total QBR" stat(s). It lists Rex Grossman at #7 with a rating of 75.0, in front of Drew Brees, Matt Shaub,and Phillip Rivers.

Kerry Collins had an abysmal rating of...2.3 he finished 33rd.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6943920/nfl-week-1-total-qbr-leaders

No.	Name	Pass EPA	Run EPA	Sack EPA	Pen. EPA	Clutch Wt EPA	Action Plays	Clutch Wt Avg	Total QBR
1	Ryan Fitzpatrick	6.0	0.3	-0.5	-0.3	5.5	33	0.7	91.2
2	Aaron Rodgers	10.8	-0.9	-1.2	-0.1	8.6	44	0.8	91.1
3	Tom Brady	14.2	-0.1	-0.5	-0.4	13.2	59	1.0	88.6
4	Matthew Stafford	8.1	0.5	0.0	0.5	9.2	41	1.1	87.4
5	Joe Flacco	3.8	0.0	-0.2	-0.3	3.3	34	0.6	79.6
6	Cam Newton	16.3	-1.8	-3.7	0.1	10.8	56	1.3	75.7
7	Rex Grossman	10.1	0.0	-3.5	-0.6	6.0	40	1.1	75.0

Key:

Pass EPA: Clutch-weighted expected points added by the QB through pass attempts.

Run EPA: Clutch-weighted expected points added by the QB through scrambles, designed rushes, and fumbles/fumble returns on running plays.
Sack EPA: Clutch-weighted expected points added by the QB through sacks and fumbles/fumble returns on passing plays.
Penalty EPA: Clutch-weighted expected points added by the QB on penalties.
Clutch Wt EPA: Total clutch-weighted expected points added by the QB.
Action Plays: Plays on which quarterback has a non-zero expected points contribution. Includes most plays that are not handoffs.
Clutch Wt Avg: Average clutch weight on QB action plays. Smaller than 1 means QB was in relatively less clutch situations, greater than 1 means he was in more.
Total QBR: Total Quarterback Rating, which values quarterback on all play types on a 0 to 100 scale.

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It was the first game!

Post these after 8 weeks. Then we can make a judgement.

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by Tiller56 on Sep 15, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions

coming from the guy that made his judgement prior to the first game.

by skinsfan28 on Sep 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

You mean made my judgement

after 6 years?

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by Tiller56 on Sep 15, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions

right, I forgot, you unbiasedly analyze and judge grossman based on his whole nfl career

and you do the same with Beck right? You obviously have been clamoring for him to start based on his stellar performance in Miami not just what you saw from him recently, right?

Btw I am actually in Becks camp, I prefer his mobility and I think he has a higher ceiling. I’m just against Hating on the inconsistent approach you are using to support your own argument to start Beck vs Grossman.

Grossman had a good week, give him his props and hope for a repeat performance, we all know if the old Grossman rears his sexy face Beck will get his chance but there’s no reason to root for that to happen as it most certainly means a Loss for our skins.

by skinsfan28 on Sep 16, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

woops should read:

*I am just hating on your inconsistent approach

by skinsfan28 on Sep 16, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

There is no inconsistant approach here at all

It is actually very consistant with Grossmans past performance’s. If you can’t see that, I don’t know what else I can say.

I was actually clammoring for Beck to get a chance, and I repeat, A CHANCE, for the same reasons you are: mobility, higher celing(and I’ll add, better arm, and better accuracy). I don’t see whats was so wong about this, as we clearly already know what we will get with Grossman, yet we don’t quite know how good(or bad) Beck can be.

We all know Grossman is not the future face of this franchise. He is a stop gap. I don’t see what was wrong with me being in favor of giving Beck a chance. If he failed, we could easily go back to what we have in Grossman.

It is, however, a moot point for the time being, as Grossman played well week 1, and there is no obvious reason to pull him now.

Please stop calling me a hater, and saying I’m against a player, or our team, just because I was for giving Beck another chnace.

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by Tiller56 on Sep 18, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions

never called you a hater

just said I was hating on (infering that i was the hater) how you were judging rex on past performance yet ignoring Beck’s past performance.

by skinsfan28 on Sep 19, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions

sorry

misread your comment then.

Aside from that, what else can I judge Rex on? And I certainly didn’t ignore Beck’s past performance. I actually said he was an unknown, which is exactly what he is.

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by Tiller56 on Sep 19, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions

Seriously

it is obviously only 1 game. But I hate to crush your dreams because Rex is not going to completely self destruct. He might have down weeks but he has proven in the four games he has played now that he is not going to just fall apart and be terrible

by CommunistKevin on Sep 15, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I like how the title says that he was "among" the top 7...

He was number 7.

Not a knock on you post, but it is misleading wording that a lot of us around here at HH are guilty of.

by preppiejack on Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions

I don’t know if the title changed, or if I read it wrong before, but I rescind my comment.

by preppiejack on Sep 15, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions

You misread it lol

by darthredskin on Sep 15, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

How is everyone liking the Total QBR i noticed that ESPN is the only place to use it over the weekend

Do they have exclusive rights to it or does everybody else just not care? And did it take into account the penalty on Fred Davis?

by jbh1190 on Sep 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions

It’s a stat nerd’s wet dream: it quantifies expectations vs performance trying to project how a “standard” QB would have been in every single play. It probably would have taken weeks to come up with this list before computers.

Suspend Colin Campbell!

by snowburnt on Sep 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions