Recap Redskins Training Camp - Thursday 8/3
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 3, 2011 11:48 AM EDT
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- Ryan Torain sprained his hand and is getting X-rays taken for pre-cautionary reasons
- Kevin Barnes intercepted a ball from QB Marc Verica. (UVA)
- Chris Horton getting bulk of snaps at SS with Landry on PUP
- Jarvis Jenkins has been a wrecking crew on run and passing plays.
- Haslett said he will put Cofield and Bowen right with the first team tomorrow, no easing them in
- John Beck is now wearing #12...Malcolm Kelly #14
- Brandon Banks was sidelined with knee swelling
- Shanahan hopes Sav Rocca can be here by Monday
- Carlos Rogers is looking VERY forward to week 9 vs Redskins. Shouldn't he be looking forward to the other 31 teams that blew him off too?
- Kerrigan is still not practicing in team drills with bone bruise on knee. Skins are being extra careful. Should be back in 2 days.
- The crowds were extremely light today. Here's side view.
- Eagles had two injuries in practice today: DT's Mike Patterson and Trevor Laws. Unsure how long they will be out yet.
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I'm guessing Verica will be gone tommorrow when Rex and Clemens come in.
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Verica is the QB of the future Parks
I’ve got him as a sure-fire starter this year.
Jarvis Jenkins
….my mouth is watering with the TC reports i have been hearing….sounds like a BEAST
Hail to 'Em
by SkinsaneAsylum on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just added a Haslett quote up there
Said Cofield and Bowen are automatic starters.
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correction
starting w/ 1st team tomorrow….not 53-man starters.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 3, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Clark is saying the CBA will not be ratified for everyone to join tomorrow.
Who knows…
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Been reading the articles on sticky negotiations
Just incredible that those idiots would risk disaster to win tiny little points on side issues.
It's pretty hard to put Doughty in when he's not on the team.
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Doughty is a far superior safety to horton
Can’t imagine what you’re talking about.
by idigl7220 on Aug 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
+1
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In the role that they'll be playing I'd prefer Doughty.
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doughty should play linebacker
he is faster then most lbs and can tackle good. that way we wouldnt get burned by rbs as much and he can sneak in and get the qb
The only reason horton got playing time ever
Was because the first time he got on the field, the ball fell into his hands twice (1 pick which was thrown right to him, and one fumble he was in the right place for), mostly out of luck. And zorn was dumb enough to start him because of that.
If that was the case...
then he would be on the roster right now…
Why?
He is a free agent
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ooooooookayyyy
I don’t know what you are trying to get at…
i don't understand what you are saying at all
a poster says that Doughty is far better than Horton and you say
If that was the case…
then he would be on the roster right now…
and i point out that there is a reason that he isn’t on the roster and that is that he is a free agent.
Doughty is far better than Horton and that has been evident for quite some time. you can’t say that Horton is better than Doughty b/c one is on the roster and the other isn’t.
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by Steve Shoup on Aug 3, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So true
Doughty is a pretty good BACKUP strong safety.
It’s funny how every player on the redskins secondary had a glaring weakness last year, except landry.
los can’t catch. kareem moore can’t tackle, cover, or really do anything useful. Doughty isn’t that good in coverage. Dhall can’t tackle (though he improved), and got burned all the time. And those were the starters.
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That's the face of a franchise right there
by BigOLinemen on Aug 3, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure he'll be happy to be cut tomorrow and take his free pair of shorts.
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That is all ...
I need to do to get a pair of shorts???? My philosopy is why bring in a bum when you already have one.
haha
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 3, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Um
masturbation material?
Nah, I went and got it from Bullets Forever.
I'm liking this defensive line
About 100 times more than last year. Cofield and Bowen are promising to me and everything I’ve heard from Jenkins sounds positively wonderful. Our defense seems to be much improved.
I laughed when I heard Bickel compaining about the lack of fan presence at y'all's training camp earlier today.
FWIW, I think you guys will better last year’s record by a couple games; 8-8 at best.
you guys majorly upgraded your defense, WR corps.
OL needs help, QB situation is atrocious, but for the most part, you’re finally doing what you should’ve been doing for years, getting better (except QB) at the positions needed the most.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
for sure
I liked Torain; hope he keeps his spot.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 3, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll take out the Dog Killer just like we did last year
Ouch! Don’t hurt me like that! I’m a superstar!
You have a dog killer for a QB and a Mental Patient as his backup.
Nice.
Calm down killer
Chubbs is just talking football, no need to be a dick..
by DoWork on Aug 3, 2011 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Great! Defend an Eagles fan to make fun of the Redskins fans on the blog.
You might as well be a Philly fan too if your going to take his crap on a Redskins blog.
Noone knows who you are
He was having an intelligent discussion about our team. No need to be ignorant or belligerent, earn some respect before you go all out ripping people up for no reason..
by DoWork on Aug 3, 2011 2:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Eagles picture?
I’m not going to spend all day arguing with you, just stop being a deusch. Thanks
by DoWork on Aug 3, 2011 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
come on man, jesus christ.
it’s ‘no one’. two words, NO and ONE. Noone is like 12:00 PM with an ‘e’ added to the end, i.e. it’s not a word. (apologize if English is your second langauge.)
by benevolent skinsfan on Aug 3, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Really dude? Chill out.
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You spelled "language" wrong
Dipshit.
by DoWork on Aug 3, 2011 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
now that is just funny
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by Steve Shoup on Aug 3, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha +1
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We have some testy new members, no doubt.
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no kidding haha
No worries. I’ll be here all year.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 3, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Our WR's are fine
In fact, it’s possible that our corps AS A WHOLE could be better than Philly’s. Lesser known doesn’t mean lesser talent. Stay tuned.
where do you get your weed?
from you dante
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 3, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're wrong but you at least make a case for your position
DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant, Riley Cooper, Sinorice Moss, Deandre Brown, Johnny Lee Higgins, camp bodies
Brandon Banks, Anthony Armstrong, Jabar Gaffney, Santana Moss, Malcolm Kelly, Roydell Williams, new draft picks
While you have decent guys across the board, I feel our 1-3 guys easily best yours, not to mention rank up there against most teams’ 1-3.
Look, I live here and I listen to 106.7 daily, which gives me the chance to learn more about your players… I like AA and BB; those guys impress me the most. I feel like their upside is awesome. I just think Santana is a quality WR on the downside of his career, Gaffney is a good WR if he has a good QB to throw to him and is in the right system (see: rest of career prior to last 2 yrs), Malcolm is [still] an unknown, just like your draft picks.
I think the deciding factor your QB play; I know McNabb/Kolb/Vick has certainly helped ours.
"I'm 95% sure that 100% of what he says is wrong."
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 3, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You're the friendliest eagles fan I've ever seen
But I disagree our wr cores aren’t even close to being comparable right now
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 4, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Meaning ours is the tits?
If so, then I agree; hence the post.
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 4, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Tim Hightower will suit up tomorrow
I’m looking forward to seeing if his blocking skills are 1/2 as good as he claims. We def need him. Ok, not so much me, but def Beck.
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"The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made." -Groucho Marx
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Firiday we have off
So I guess I’ll just see you Momday. Have a goo long weekend. No national headlines foreseen.
you don't spend your Saturdays on Hogs Haven?!
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I just caught that myself
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
What are the chances Tatupu signs today/practices tomorrow
I’m hoping they dont let him leave without a contract.I think he will be a good fit next to Fletcher, and regain his all pro form. Hoping they can sign hayden too.I know Buchannan will be back week 4 and everyone seems to be sold on Barnes(myself excluded),but you can never have too much depth and competition.If they had that much confidence in Barnes they wouldnt have re-signed buchannan in the first place.
Eagles, Redskins, Bears, Raiders, Pats
Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune doesn’t see it happening. “Expect him to get better offers elsewhere,” Biggs tweeted.
I believe the only two teams he’s actually visited are Oakland and here.
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I don't think Tatupu is a good fit for our system
or really all that good anymore. But people know his name so he’s red meat for Skins fans.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 3, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
he not a good fit for any system...
unless he gets back on the juice:P…. roids have really messed up his knees
I've heard he was here yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I don't know what to believe anymore.
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Somebody on another thread said Hayden and Tatupu were here today (Wed)
Hayden interested, Tatupu still looking. No confirmation on any of that.
Ive seen the chicago reports but they are already set at MLB with urlacher
They may be in the market for a LB if they dont bring back Tinismoa (dont think thats right spelling),but he is OLB.The raiders are set at LB also, so his best fit would most likely be here,at least i hope so.
Rob Jackson
Been hearing lots of positives from camp about RJ. Does that mean Lorenzo has some risk of being cut? Not sure his ST work is enough if he is not 2nd on depth chart somewhere. Or maybe they will tell him to lose 50 lbs. and become a punter?
by hempstead on Aug 3, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think he is safe....
he can contribute to depth at any of the LB positions and I think he has the potential to become a team leader.
Speaking of cuts, Ryan O'Halloran on Redskins Nation
said he thought there was a chance that Anthony Armstrong would get cut. He based that on the idea of the top four being Moss, Gaffney, Hankerson, Stallworth. Somebody else, like Kelly, Paul or Robinson at #5.
That would surprise me. For one thing, many on HH don’t think Stallworth is a lock. And I’d think AA would beat out any of the others. But we’ll see.
i would also bet we could trade Armstrong for a conditional 6th or 7th rounder next year if he did get beat out
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armstrong is our best wr
not sure how he would get cut… the guy woulda had a few more tds and alot more hards if he was hit every time he was wide open downfeld.
besides moss of corse
armstong really helped moss last year though. thats why im so upset about not getting a better QB. we could have a good passing attack imo
I hope its Hank, Paul, Robinson, Kelly, Armstrong, Moss (not in any order)
I dont like gaffney or stallworth, banks and terrence austin dont do anything huge for me either (due to the new kickoff rules and fact they’re both #3 recievers like moss and armstrong and robinson)
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 3, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he would have to really regress
to get cut for Stallworth. Stallworth didn’t play at all in 2009. Last year he played in eight games totaling two – count em two – receptions. If stallworth makes the team at all I’ll be surprised.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 3, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Crazy
Sounds like mud-on-the-wall journalism to me. With this youth movement, it would be crazy to cut AA for a guy who’s career trajectory is going the opposite way. With our luck, Dallas would pick him up right away, and he’d kill us twice a year for the next 5. Stallworthless has been just thatbfor 3 years at least.
A receiver needy team.
Rookie year has 44 catches, 800 + yards and 3 TDs. Top 5 in YPC.
Yeah, Anthony Armstrong is definitely not safe.
How does he not make the team? He’s one of the few proven commodities on this team.
"That's what she said!"
by iH8dallas on Aug 3, 2011 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doughty is back
john_keim John Keim
FYI: Reed Doughty is returning to the Redskins. Just heard from him via text. “Back to the B&G.” Redskins
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Or he finally got laid again
and meant Bump and Grind.
RECEIVING CORPS
Moss, Anderson and Kelly will be the three top receivers with Kelly becoming one of the best blocking wideouts in the whole league. Gaffney and Hankerson will be the rotating group, with Banks making it due to his game breaking ability as a returner. I think Banks will bring back at least 3 or 4 to the house this season and the Skins will be one of the top in the league with starting field position. The vets are here strictly to run good routes for the QB competition. I was surprised to hear Moss throw out Clemens’ name in an interview tonight on Redskins Nation with Larry Micheals. I still think it is Beck’s job to hold.
I think Santana was just saying that he had played with Clemens back in NY - Clemens was competing for
the Jets QB job. Not any kind of prediction.
Sounded like he was talking
about just recently working with him as the free agents were waiting to get onto the field. The question was who he preferred throwing to him Beck or Grossman and he started to avoid the question all together, then mentioned some success w/ Grossman from last year, and then out of nowhere started talking about Clemens and him developing some chemistry working out with the free agents. I just thought it was kind of strange. Maybe just didn’t want to wade into the question at all.
Joe "Jake" Jacoby for the Hall of Fame!
Doughty SUCKS D__K!
I can’t believe we re-signed him. He sucks so so so much. He’s basically Linda Lovelace with a helmet. REMEMBER the game against Houston, OMG!!! I could have made that play. I made that play on a consistent basis in elementary school actually. If we are going to become an elite franchise once again we can’t settle for the mediocre anymore.
I've got 10 grand that says you can't outjump Andre Johnson.
let’s make this happen!
The NFL Network used the replay of that catch to death. Buchanon was supposed to have helped out on the
pass coverage on that play and a FS with a 40" vertical might have broken it up. If the pass rusher would have been a hair sooner it would have been a sack.
by Jefferson1935 on Aug 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
In our system
The guy is the perfect back up SS. Jim makes a good point: remember the match up. I would take Andre Johnson over EVERY SINGLE SS in the league, including Polamalu. Our SS has to be a physical guy who basically plays like a LB, except that they are normally one-on-one with the ball carrier.
And I’m sorry, but I doubt too many elite franchises have superstar back up SSs
Alley Oop Play
Someone should have been crashing through that and force the ref make a call on the last play. I agree though, he gives us nothing!
go look at the replay
he was totally out of position, something that he should have learned in practice, dont get under the big, tall receiver when its a hail mary. You played the game “Mystery” before haven’t you!?!?
CAP
What’s our Cap Number at now? We need another ILB, CB and OL. I’d like to see a starter at ILB and OL, plus a nickle CB. Do we have the Cap space for that?
I'm not positively sure where we are at
But I think 15 million left is a safe number, (someone correct me if I’m longer). Where we are at with the market, no more big money contracts are being given, so I would figure we are safe even if we signed the best FA’s available, although I’m indifferent about the idea. I think Capers at LG and Riley at ILB may be an interesting experiment for the year. A nickel/dime CB (depending on how Buchanon plays after his suspension) I’m not against, although I think Kevin Barnes should be able to fit the role fine.
Barnes
Don’t know why we would put money into Buchanon when we knew he was going to be out 4 games, so I guess Barnes will get his shot. Not sold on Riley or Capers but this is the year to take a look I guess.
Joe "Jake" Jacoby for the Hall of Fame!
I think the staff liked Buchanon a lot
And I bet people are tired, but I always go back to his coverage on Reggie Wayne, which shows how good this guy can be. Barnes has his chance to win the nickel spot, but if not, they have a reliable guy in Buchanon for the next few years.
And I’m not sold on Riley or Capers either, but I think they are worth the experiment at their spots. I’m not against an ILB for the right price, like a Channing Crowder who got cut for being insane, not a bad ILB. As for Capers, I don’t know if there are any good remaining FA options, and his weight is much better for G than Licht’s is.
more concerned w/ Tackle
I am much more concerned with options at tackle and I’m a huge Sooner fan, but is Brown really gonna be able to stay healthy all season? Is Capers able to play both guard and tackle or should he just focus on one spot. What about Oldenburg? Can he play at all? I’d like to see another lineman to help shore up the front so Capers can focus on either guard or tackle. Prefer a starting guard so Capers can focus as back up Tackle at both left and right side, then stash one on the practice squad for emergency situation. I like Crowder or Tatupu, because I see Blades strictly a special teams ace.
Joe "Jake" Jacoby for the Hall of Fame!
you would thing so at least, but have been slacking on the Cap!
Joe "Jake" Jacoby for the Hall of Fame!
Pretty understandable
the way things have gone this year. At least you have Joe Jacoby in your signature. I miss his commercials with his wife, Irene.
too light in the A$$
Rocky is too easy to push 10 yards downfield. He is okay on pass defense, but can’t handle the pounding of a good running game. Not too pleased, but yes better than nothing.
Joe "Jake" Jacoby for the Hall of Fame!
What about a physical young FB
Then we could cut Sellers, though I hate the thought, and get a little more cap room and get younger. Someone who can grow with the team over the years.
Joe "Jake" Jacoby for the Hall of Fame!
i remember
the jets had 3 really good ones – Richardson, John Connor, and the 3rd guy who was cut..
i think his name was Jason Davis – worth a look
It seems like the Coaches really like Darrel Young at FB.
Definately fits the physical and young categories. Sellers just might be out this year
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