Daily Slop: D.C. Media Roundup and Reactions from Ravens Game
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 9:12 AM EDT
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Jarvis Jenkins suffers knee injury - The Insider
"I was doing a stunt on that side, and I seen the running back cutting back," Jenkins said. "So when he cut it back, I kind of reacted to him. I had my hands on the lineman trying to throw him. I threw him, and I tried to plant at the same time and redirect, and something just popped."
Redskins hold their breath on Jarvis Jenkins' knee injury - WaTimes
"It didn’t look good. We’re all pulling for him, but we just don’t know," nose tackle Barry Cofield said. "It didn’t look good; it didn’t sound good. We’re hoping for the best."
NFL Videos: Redskins vs. Ravens highlights
Fredericksburg.com - Solid players will mask average QBs
When was the last time the Redskins' blocking wasn't an issue? It's not a sure thing now, but watching second-year left tackle Trent Williams bury Ray Lewis on Hightower's scoring run had to remind longtime fans not only of Chris Samuels, but of Joe Jacoby and Jim Lachey.
Jason Reid: It’s coming together for the Redskins - WaPost
COLUMN | The team’s body of work is limited, but so far the drama is gone and the improvement is showing.
Redskins defensive lineman Barry Cofield isn’t angry at the Giants - WaPost
After years of feeling undervalued by the Giants, nose tackle Barry Cofield is the foundation of a Redskins defense that expects to make big strides this year.
Matt Terl: Malcolm Kelly, Sadness And The Types Of NFL Failure - SB Nation DC
It seems likely that Malcom Kelly's career with the Redskins is coming to an end. Which is sad, but in all the wrong ways.
Ten observations: Ravens 34, Redskins 31 | John Keim
Rocky McIntosh remains a liability in coverage. This could be an issue this season, not just with him but also with Kerrigan.
Jurgensen: Redskins can win with Beck or Grossman - DC Sports Bog
Sonny Jurgensen says Donovan McNabb sometimes struggled to get his offense into the right formations, which prompted the arm band story.
Instant Analysis: Redskins-Ravens
- Late in the first half, rookie DeJon Gomes worked with the starters, replacing Atogwe. - Ryan Kerrigan. The up: a sack, the down: two neutral-zone infraction penalties. Young fella was eager to get off the ball. Both penalties came on third down.
Redskins Fall 34-31 To The Ravens " CBS Washington
Audio clips from Shanahan, Grossman, Moss, Beck, Hightower, T Austin, Trent, and Orakpo.
Battle for 'Skins QB: Grossman makes a strong case to start | John Keim
Beck's only completion against Baltimore's starters was his first.
Rick Snider: Grossman seems to take lead | Rick Snider | NFL | Washington Examiner
Beck showed his downside, taking a self-imposed sack (negated by penalty) before short-arming a third-down pass to Moss
Redskins lose wild one to Ravens, 34-31 - The Insider - The Washington Post
Rex Grossman finished 8 of 15 for 112 yards with one touchdown and no interceptions; John Beck was 6 of 10 for 108 yards with one score and one interception. Their ratings were close, Grossman at 99.9, Beck at 90.8.
Ravens Insider: Five Things We Learned from the Ravens 34-31 win over the Redskins - baltimoresun.com
It still baffles me how much they keep finding reasons to defend Flacco's suckiness.
Redskins cut DT Thomas Weaver - The Insider
Honestly, this is the first I've ever heard of this guy.
Looking at DeAngelo Hall from both sides - WaPost
Cornerback DeAngelo Hall returns an interception for a touchdown, but surrenders a critical big play to Ravens wide receiver Lee Evans.
Gruden: John Beck reminded me of Marc Bulger - The Insider - The Washington Post
"He reminded me of Marc when Marc was playing well with the Rams. But I probably wasn’t as high on him as the Shanahans. That’s the reason they’re coaching and I’m not. They’re smarter than I am."
Fredericksburg.com - Sellers getting more versatile with age
Source -- Indianapolis Colts looked at Matt Hasselbeck before Kerry Collins signed - ESPN
My $100 bet on the Colts 10.5 games under is looking pretty good!
Right side of OL is quite clearly the soft underbelly of the Eagles – Blogging the bEast
If you saw the Eagles preseason game last night against the Browns, you saw Michael Vick pressured and hit, early and often.
The Redskins Blog | Former Redskins Cheerleader Back In Town
Because she's so gorgeous, I'm giving her another day in the slop.
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my bad about the 2nd half thread last night
The 25 cent beers at Hard Times took over. Dexter Manley showed up and we did a 10-minute Q&A…good times. We’re going to be doing this again on NFL Kickoff opener that Thursday night (9/8/11)….Packers/Saints…so pencil that in.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
we're actually not allowed to talk about it
He usually charges for events, so we promised we wouldn’t broadcast what he says. He went into some funny stories. Hit us up at at Skins tailgate and i’ll fill you in.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That's bunk.
Next game I’m at I’ll have to track down the Hogs Haven tailgate. I guess once I smell burning flesh, see various crying midgets, and Ken wearing his pong nipple pasties, I’m at the right party.
Or just listen for Celine Dion blaring.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone explain why Matt Terl got fired?
Saw one of the links was an article he wrote and it sparked that random thought.
An article is coming out later today explaining it…I’ll link it here when it’s out.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
no
He’s doing guest posts for several DC blogs, including SB Nation DC and Mister Irrelevant.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's that article
Still deciding/looking on a job.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not going to hold the neutral zone infractions
against Kerrigan. If the worst criticism that can be mustered for a rookie playing in his third preseason game at a new position is a couple of 5 yard penalties—then I’d say he’s doing pretty well.
You have to like DeJon Gomes’ chances of making this roster right now. We also saw alot of Byron Westbrook with the starters last night, which I found a bit surprising.
That doesn't really bother me either.
I’m really looking forward to seeing what else he can do. He really does seem to be as relentless as they said during the draft.
To me, it only makes sense that they keep DeJon Gomes. He has had some time at both safety and corner, so it’s always nice to have that swing, versitile player as depth. Plus, he has a knack for ALWAYS being around the ball.
Perry Riley always seems to be around the ball as well
I’d have liked to see him get some time with the starters last night. I like him more than McIntosh. Fox looked solid last night as well. If I were Haslett, I’d have to at least think about starting Fox over Rocky at this point.
Fox looked really good last night.
I wasn’t watching him consistently, but I remember he did make a few really good plays. Back-to-back plays too (if I remember correctly).
I wouldv'e preferred
they never brought Rocky back. He just doesn’t work in this defense.
by CJHutch on Aug 26, 2011 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I was suprised to see Westbrook get the start over Barnes
"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"
by ThuGodfather on Aug 26, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
So how much closer are we to knowing who the opending day starter will be?
Rex out played Beck in the numbers game but I still think Beck gets the job. He made some good throws and i’m not too concerned with the int. Obviously he shouldn’t have thrown it but its only the pre season so it’s worth a shot, and at least it shows he can throw the deep ball when needed.
I'm not as sold.
He had one completed pass against the Baltimore starting defense and his TD was on, if I remember correctly, a WR bubble screen to T. Austin. I felt Grossman outplayed him. Overall, Grossman has played solid football and been fairly consistent this preseason. Though, the only caveat is that it is still, afterall, just preseason. Either way, I wouldn’t mind if Beck won the job, I just want his play to be more convincing…
So your saying the Ravens were so fearful of Beck's amazing abilities, they decided to call in their starters early
for fearing of Beck embarrasing them… I read you loud and clear.
Beck's 2nd touchdown drive he was playing with the 2nd team offense against the Ravens 2nd team defense
That’s the same as playing with the 1st team offense against the 1st team defense. IMO
That’s the same as playing with the 1st team offense against the 1st team defense. IMO
haha, no
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and if John Beck was the guest QB in hogs haven scrimmage
it would be the equivalent of playing the Ravens starting defense?
rocky looked bad last night.....
missing tackles….i think i would be fine with Fox starting next to fletcher.
Terrance Austin = Miles Austin
That’s who it looked like has been playing for the Skins the past 2 weeks.
Agreed!
I was pleasantly surprised.
Actually the entire team for the most part pleasantly surprised me last night.
Only people i’ll hate on are:
dhall, got us 1 td but cost us 2. I love the hard push into the endzone to help the ravens score.
ILB’s missed a lot of tackles and took a lot of bad angles. Not sure who but there were multiple inside guys missing on the same play during the first 3 quarters.
The Beat Box aka skins secondary.
Did anyone watch how Josh Wilson did last night?
I completely forgot to look for him the entire night.
didn't play
"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"
by ThuGodfather on Aug 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
On a positive note, Orakpo/Kerrigan will haunt the dreams of QBs for years to come.
"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"
my buddy
Called me this morning asking if I heard what happened to Orakpo. Made me want to throw up. I haven’t seen anything. Please tell ne there’s nothing to this.
by CJHutch on Aug 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at the end of the 1st half, it looked like he might have hurt his hand
but I haven’t heard anymore about it. so I’m guessing it’s nothing.
"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"
by ThuGodfather on Aug 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
All Gruden does is blow everybody
It’s really annoying
by travisjh86 on Aug 26, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good game last night guys, that was by far the best preseason game of the year so far.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
Jenkins Has an Actual Injury. An ACL Tear. We think Kelly has pulled muscles.
Or he just likes to pick up paychecks.
Doesn't he just have a bruised foot?
How long does it take for a bruise to heal? Man that guy is a wuss!
Kelly sucks when healthy….so Im not worried about that.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Last 2 games of Zorn era
Remember that game vs Bolts he got tackled from behind on that 80 yard slant?
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently ESPN’s Jon Gruden was raving about Beck on TV and proclaimed him his day one starter. He also apparently raved about Beck’s interview. Here’s the thing; Gruden doesn’t do that if he’s not hearing something elsewhere.
Has Keim ever watched MNF? Gruden raves about every player out there, haha.
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by Parks Smith on Aug 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Gruden and the entire group were pretty much laughing at the Skins during the pregame show.
It wasn’t until about half way through the first that they started to change their tone as our defense was punching the Ravens in the mouth.
"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"
by ThuGodfather on Aug 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
haha +1
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by Parks Smith on Aug 26, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
so great
I passed that along to the twittersphere.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hadn't you heard?
Joe Flacco is Elite. Right up there with Mark Sanchez and Eli Manning.
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Aug 26, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
Joe Flacco seems to get a lot more credit than he deserves...
It seems to me the only way to make your statement true is to put him up there with Tom Brady/Peyton Manning
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Aug 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Flacco's job at this point is not to lose games.
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Well he is pretty damn good at not losing
Joe Flacco’s Stats:
62% Complete
10,206 yards
7.2 Avg
60 TD
34 Int
Sacked 108
87.9 QBR
Matt Ryan
60.8% Complete
10,061 yards
6.9 Avg
66 TD
34 Int
Sacked 59
86.9 QBR
Oh and Joe Flacco Can win in the playoffs
haha I never said he wasn't
Wouldn’t win-loss be the only stat that needs to be represented?
Oh and Joe Flacco Can win in the playoffs
Are you really knocking Ryan’s playoff abilities? He’s played two games! One his rookie year where he nearly to down the eventual NFC Champions and one last year where his defense couldn’t stop a pee wee team.
Joe Flacco’s team can win in the playoffs…not Joe Flacco. You don’t think Ryan would of done just as well or even better on the Ravens? What about if you put Flacco on the Falcons? I love Flacco to death and watched him play a ton in college and continue to in the pros, but Matt Ryan is head and shoulders above him.
Ryan also missed two games a year ago, so you could add 400+ yards to those stats… Ryan has orchestrated 13 GW drives and comebacks, while Flacco has 8. They are both good QBs, but Ryan is asked to do a lot more, and for an extremely unstable franchise at the time, then Flacco is asked to do.
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Well first off you don't get a chance to play in many playoff games if you lose the first game everytime
And It’s impossible to say who would of done what on what team each team is different and each qb would of done differently in the specific situation. Ryan may be better then Flacco, but I don’t think its leaps and bounds he’s on an offensive minded team where the Ravens are turning into and offensive minded team
I don't understand your point?
Clearly Joe Flacco is better than Kyle Boller, that’s not what this discussion is about. If anything that would be detrimental to your point. The Ravens have gone to the playoffs behind Tony Banks, Elvis Grbac, Trent Dilfer, Boller, Steve McNair, and Flacco.
What’s the main constant the 7 times the Ravens have made it to the playoffs? Their defense has been ranked 4th or better. While their offense is usually ranked 15th or worse.
Like I said I think Flacco is good QB, but I think Ryan is better. If there is 2 minutes on the clock and you have to drive 80 yards for a TD, who are you taking? Ryan or Flacco? If you’re starting an expansion franchise today, who are you taking? Ryan or Flacco?
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I don't think you can discredit a QB
just because he has a great (good) defense, flacco doesn’t have to attempt many game winning drives because the Ravens just win (except against the steelers). To say that Joe Flacco is not in the top tier of qbs is an insult to him and to the Ravens.
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Aaron Rogers
5. Matt Ryan
Then who…
Josh Freeman, Jason Campbell, Eli, Vick (could be if he has another good year), Matt Schaub, Matt Cassel, Colt McCoy, Tony Romo, Eli Manning? The best fit for 6. is Ben Rothelisberger but at 7 it has to be Flacco unless you want to appoint Matt Stafford a top 10 or Mark Sanchez.
What happened to Rivers? He's pretty good you know.
And you didn’t answer my question…
If there is 2 minutes on the clock and you have to drive 80 yards for a TD, who are you taking? Ryan or Flacco? If you’re starting an expansion franchise today, who are you taking? Ryan or Flacco?
Everything you just said is proving my point. Like I’ve said:
Like I said I think Flacco is good QB, but I think Ryan is better.
I haven’t discredited Flacco at all. I think he’s a GOOD QB, borderline Top 10. I’m not sure what else you’re looking for here?
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Lets put it this way, QBs 26 and under, who are you taking for your franchise?
My rankings would be:
- Ryan
- Bradford
- Freeman
- Flacco
- Stafford
- McCoy
I’d maybe take Stafford before I’d take Flacco, just based on upside. I think Flacco is a TREMENDOUS fit for the Ravens, and he’ll do some damage with Evans/Bolden this year.
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In order right now
Ryan
Bradford (only because he is so promising)
Flacco
Stafford (injury prone)
Freeman (he’s a fluke watch and see)
McCoy (Wait and see)
And how am I proving your point…Joe Flacco has won in the playoffs he has made all the throws he has had game winning drives I would say that Flacco is almost if not equal to Ryan…he even has better numbers in the Regular season in some areas and a better overall QB rating for his career, Flacco is a perfect example of the media being biased. Matt Ryan gets all the love because he doesn’t look like a caveman.
Rivers is equal to or maybe even better than Brady
Rivers doesn’t get those big deer eyes been hit a couple of times-Brady usually falls a part after being hit continuously
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Aug 27, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I put this on twitter, but did anyone else think Jimmy Smith bitching about Santana pushing off was hilarious?
Santana never came within 5 yards of him. Jimmy Smith’s voice is also hilarious…
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URGENT!
Can someone please post a video of T.W. owning Ray Lewis last night…Ravens fan doesn’t believe me.
all he has to do
Is watch the touchdown run. TW definitely redeemed himself from the Sweeney debacle.
Click on the TD run
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011082553/2011/PRE3/redskins@ravens#tab:watch
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Thanks I just found it
Oddly enough I was searching Google for the block when I could of found it for the run.
Jenkins
Any ideas on who fills his spot in the DE rotation?
Do you think it’ll be someone from within, or do you think they will sign someone for depth?
I mean, it's going to be Carriker and Bowen starting. Maybe Phillip Daniels gets a call?
I wouldn’t expect much…
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Worthington has looked good in multiple games. When teams cut down to 80 there will be some awful options. Skins will have to trade something/someone to get a decent talent there.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You know who hasn't done jack shit?
Neild!
I doubt he makes the team but DaVonte Shannon looked pretty decent last night. In other news…I think your boy Reggie Jones was trying to get cut last night, it’s too bad he’s had a pretty good preseason until last night.
In other news again…why didn’t ESPN show the replay of LoAx running into the kicker? It looked like he was pushed…
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Read where?
I like PD, but we are out of the 38 YR football player business. No chance he comes back. 3 guys (Worthington, Scott, Golston) fighting for 2 spots.
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
Two Skins RBs are the preseason leading rushers.
Rushing Rk Player……. Team Pos Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
1 Roy Helu …….WAS.. RB 35 11.7 173 4.9… 57.7.. 0.. 51.. 7.. 20.0.. 1… 1… 0
2 Tim Hightower ..WAS..RB 25 8.3.. 170 6.8…56.7.. 2.. 58.. 7.. 28.0.. 2… 1… 0
Excluding his longest two runs Hightower is averaging 3 yards per carry.
Great game yesterday fellas. Very exciting pre-season game to watch and got me pumped even more for the regular season. You guys are definitely moving in the right direction.Good luck this season and please stick it to the Cowboys. I hate them with a passion
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I concur....
All the best to the Ravens as well…..B-more’s hatred for the Steelers is pretty much the equivalent hatred the Redskins have for the Cowboys (or better yet a notch below)!
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