Redskins and the Alleged Miami Scandal

by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

Not that the alleged Nevin Shapiro and University of Miami scandal should be breaking news to anyone, but how has the scandal affected former Canes that play on the Redskins? And will affect anyone on the team in the future? First off the Redskins have four former members of the "U" on their roster: Santana Moss, Rocky McIntosh, Phillip Buchanon, and rookie Leonard Hankerson. If you haven't seen the work Charles Robinson and Dan Wetzel have put together regarding the scandal, then I highly recommend it.

So far Rocky McIntosh is the only current Redskin to come up in the Yahoo piece. Nevin Shaprio talked about Rocky himself:

"Rocky McIntosh was a kid that I got along real good with. He was always present when we were in the nightclubs. I remember one moment specifically, we were at club Mansion and D.J. Irie was passing the mic around to me, and I was introducing all the ballplayers. I remember announcing Roger McIntosh from South Carolina."

Beyond appearances at bars, clubs, yachts, receiving drinks, etc. the other allegation tied to Rocky is that he received a $500 bounty from Shapiro in a game against West Virginia in 2005 where he had two sacks and recovered a fumble. Also Shapiro's phone records show multiple text messages between Rocky and himself in 2008 and 2009. Here is how Rocky responded to the allegations:

"I don’t know nothing about that, I got to go,"

Beyond McIntosh the only allegations that have popped up regarding the Redskins are of legendary safety Sean Taylor. Shapiro says Taylor had the same luxurious party scene amenities given to McIntosh but he also gave Taylor $15,000 in jewelery, $3,000 in bounties, and also knew Taylor was being paid by Axcess Sports, by current UFL commissioner Michael Huyghue.

Truthfully from both Taylor and McIntosh's perspective I don't see anything tremendously egregious here. Rather two kids being prayed on by a complete slime ball. Hopefully there won't be any allegations in the future regarding Moss, Hankerson, Buchanon, or even ex-Skins like Clinton Portis for that matter.

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I don't think it matters...it's in the past

More John Beck please.

"Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers." - Homer Simpson

by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

haha, I don't think it matters either, but I do think its interesting...

John Beck probably got some Mormon benefits at BYU… free milk… Maybe that should be Miami’s penalty, they have to implement the BYU Honor Code:

Be honest
    Live a chaste and virtuous life
    Obey the law and all campus policies
    Use clean language
    Respect others
    Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
    Participate regularly in church services
    Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
    Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code"

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

That's just not gonna fly at Miami

You could make a sitcom about that though, The U players trying to fit in at BYU

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

hilarious

Like that show “Wife Swap”…

"Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers." - Homer Simpson

by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I've always thought they should take the Jersey Shore cast and concept...

but put them in a house in Alabama on the gulf with a bunch of SEC frat boys.

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Speaking of

Did you see Abercrombie & Fitch wants to pay MTV to NOT put their clothes on those Jersey Shore oxygen thieves? Superb.

by CJHutch on Aug 19, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions

haha yea I saw it on Yahoo the other day.

I heard Tiller was part of the deal too though.

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Beck

I was thinking MRE’s can food and matches for his survival stash.

by Aaron Beard on Aug 19, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions

You don't think

They follow that already? One transgression, and sheesh.

by CJHutch on Aug 19, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Doesn't matter for the kids out of school

but it sure as hell does for those still there and in the middle of this. This scumbag is only doing this to make money to pay restitution for the $900 billion he scammed. Better believe that Donna Shalala will be out of a job shortly since she’s on record praising this guy. Bound to be some former ass’t. coaches now with other schools that will get caught up in it too. It’s a shame this crap has to happen but the NCAA has gotten too big to police everything like they’re trying to do. They need a commissioner to oversee each sport like basketball with the power to crack down on cheaters…hard. That and simplify the rules so there’s no ambiguity. You cheat you pay the penalty.

by DudleyDoright on Aug 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions

Death Penalty is still on the table officially, according to NCAA.

This could forever change college football. I can’t see any way it hurts former players who are in the NFL in any way that should concern us, though.

by tuckwell on Aug 19, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Miami did all that and they still sucked for the past 9 years.

If your going to cheat, then at least WIN.

by jmpalomo on Aug 19, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Didn't you see

The Terrele Pryor ruling?

They need a commissioner to oversee each sport

They have one.
Goodell has decided to take over the NCAA as well.

by CJHutch on Aug 19, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Seriously the NCAA needs an authority figure that's the whole problem.

NCAA president is essentially just a figure head and has ZERO authority, there are like 9 million sub-committees and organizations and none of them answer to anyone.

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

If you dig a little deeper,

You will see that Yahoo really didn’t fact check like they said they did. Most of their “evidence” is just credit card bills and bank statements. Nothing actually linking these payments to the students. I don’t care how hard you try, but I WILL not just take this douche’s word for it. Remember, he is doin 20 years for tricking millionaires out of hundreds of millions of dollars. He knows his way around a lie. All of the photo dates don’t match up with the time that the players were attending school, it was pics taken AFTER they graduated. I’m sure there is something somewhere the NCAA will find, but not to the scope Yahoo would suggest. And P.S., this situation does not meet eligibility for the “death penalty”. You have to have multiple violations within 5 years, this would be the first since 2001.

What the shit

by tony420 on Aug 19, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions

I completely agree and its the reason I used alleged and everything so much.

The funniest thing that Yahoo uses as “evidence” are the text message records. The keep linking them to guys like Rocky, but they are all text AFTER the players left Miami for the NFL. Is it illegal for a booster to text a former player?

Also this is the record they have of Rocky partying:

Clearly Rocky was there, haha…

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

hahaha, Bingo!

Check out this report. Says everything better than I can, http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

What the shit

by tony420 on Aug 19, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea I've been reading those all week.

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

More than enough for ESPN and everyone else to drool over

No one gives UM the benefit of the doubt.

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by David St. Martin on Aug 19, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

It's amazing to me that ESPN never does a shred of investigative journalism or journalism at all for that matter

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

They're not so much journalists as they are entertainers at this point

MTV started out showing videos. Now ESPN is just talking heads screaming at each other. Oh, and asking Urban Meyer and Nick Saban how they would clean up college football. WOW.

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by David St. Martin on Aug 19, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

And the photos?

They’re a little incriminating. Don’t you think? Players at his mansion and in the nightclubs (in the VIP section). Hard to imagine that the players paid for that themselves. Plus there are personal accounts, confirming those who were there. But I agree, the ex-players will not be affected.

Moss and Portis really have nothing to worry about, as both graduated before the booster started his improprieties.

by Chazz Micheal Michealzz on Aug 19, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Photos are evidence of this? Do you think any major college players pay for their drinks at bars?

Hard to imagine that the players paid for that themselves

The pictures aren’t the least bit incriminating. You don’t think “boosters” all around the country get pictures taken with players? This sleezeball probably dropped 5 g’s a night on the reg at night clubs for like 10 years, do you think it was Miami players every, single time the guy went out?

Have fun proving he bought the players drinks, haha.

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by Parks Smith on Aug 19, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions

It is amazing that a guy who claims to 'love'

the Canes, is attempting to sell them out to promote his own book! Ultimate douchebag.

by Toosy_13 on Aug 20, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions

And the players?

I agree this guy is a slime ball but the players KNOW this is not legal right? Or shall they be absolved of all responsibility? I am not saying the former or current players should be punished but they do bear some responsibility for allowing this to happen… It is not like they thought this was a normal or were they so blind to everyone else joining in, including coaches and the president of the university, that they just shrugged it off?
Sorry but somewhere in the back of these players minds they had to know this was illegal…

by elfenwish on Aug 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

Absolutely,

IF, and it’s a big if, these claims turn out to be true. Players are told the rules constantly from the minute they step on campus. I just don’t beleive a word this guy says.

What the shit

by tony420 on Aug 19, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Quick question, kinda off topic

But what are some solid bars to watch skins games in NW DC? Thanks in advance

by Meraj Chowdhury on Aug 19, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions

Do you want a good bar or a bar that’s mostly Redskins fans? B/c there really aren’t any of the latter, sadly. Public Bar in Dupont circle has a good setup on the 2nd floor to watch games. Great happy hour prices too.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions