Redskins Resign Phillip Buchanon
by Parks Smith on Aug 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT
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Phillip Buchanon has been re-signed by the Redskins via his twitter account:
Buchanon was a valuable contributor for the Skins last year and started five games towards the end of the year. He was also the team's primary nickle CB. The 30 year old will be entering his tenth NFL season and will likely compete with new Redskin Josh Wilson and Kevin Barnes for a starting role.
| Sacks | Interceptions | Tackles | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Year | Team | G | Sacks | YdsL | Int | Yds | IntTD | Solo | Ast | Total |
| 2002 | Raiders | 6 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 81 | 0 | 21 | 0 | 21 |
| 2003 | Raiders | 16 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 176 | 0 | 42 | 2 | 44 |
| 2004 | Raiders | 14 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 69 | 0 | 59 | 9 | 68 |
| 2005 | Texans | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 35 | 6 | 41 |
| 2006 | Buccaneers | 10 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 24 | 4 | 28 |
| 2006 | Texans | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 |
| 2007 | Buccaneers | 16 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 22 | 0 | 61 | 2 | 63 |
| 2008 | Buccaneers | 16 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 33 | 0 | 52 | 4 | 56 |
| 2009 | Lions | 13 | 1 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 43 | 5 | 48 |
| 2010 | Redskins | 16 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 51 | 0 | 49 | 8 | 57 |
| career | Total | 121 | 1 | 15 | 20 | 432 | 0 | 388 | 40 | 428 |
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Really happy with this
The secondary is looking very strong now and overall the defense is shaping up nicely, still a concerns about ILB but overall were just lacking a little in depth.
Lofa Tatupu is visiting tomorrow
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 1, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent
I’ll wait in the terms of the deal, but I’m very happy to have him and add depth to a still thin secondary.
+1
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Wilson may be better than Hall
He was really coming on at the end of last season. A smart QB (i.e. not Jay Cutler) can take advantage of Hall.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 1, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Solid signing!
Our secondary will be 2nd to none. HTTR!
"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"
even
their CBs are a little better, but not way better. our safeties are better.
I think you need to look at the rosters again.
Asomugha and Rodgers-Cromartie are both better than any of our corners. Samuels is at least as good as Hall and Wilson—probably better. Barnes/Buchanon aren’t that close to those guys. Their CBs are way better. Their corners are the best in the leauge.
But you’re right about our safeties—Landry/Otogwe is a top-flight tandem.
Atogwe is a huge addition in my opinion. Could be the biggest for us this season.
It frees up Landry to do the damage he is good at.. But DAMN I miss ST21
I hate to say it...
but their CBs are much better than ours but we’re going to run all over them anyway :)
if they move samuel
then we stack up a little better. they have a better starting two. but our cb depth (hoping barnes improves upon late season performance) and safeties can compete
Solid signing
He’ll either push Barnes for 3, or be one of the best 4th corners in the league.
Also closes the door on Carlos, who is prob’ly gettin pretty antsy in the unemployment line.
by CJHutch on Aug 1, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Saw we were host cb Kelvein Hayden and Lofa tatupu this week guess Hayden is out
Not sure whos better but was looking forward to Hayden coming in.Hope we can ink Lofa anyway.
He'll compete for a roster spot.
But please keep in mind that he was a notch above terrible and can’t tackle.
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So's a parking cone
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He used to tackle
I was watching a VT bowl game on ESPNclassic the year D-Hall got drafted. In all seriousness he was laying the wood to TE’s and RB’s. Idk what happened along the way but he used to like to hit.
by skins4life010 on Aug 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is a better tackler than
Kareem moore. Hall at least improved a little last year. Kareem moore is a freaking safety who can’t tackle.
I like this signing. Hall and Wilson starting. Barnes and Buchanon battling for #3
I want Barnes to make the leap to #3 CB this year after a promising end of last year but the depth of our secondary still scared me. Plus I didn’t want us to just hand Barnes that Nickel spot so now it will be fun to watch these 2 battle it out. I still expect both to see the field a decent amount because we all know about injuries to CB’s (springs, rogers, smoot).
One more CB
We need to bring in Kelvin Hayden to solidify the secondary because I don’t trust Byron Westbrook as our 5th CB on the depth chart.
Make more moves
Now we need a LG, C, ILB, and some depth to the D line
Running out of roster spots
This make 86. Rex would be 87.
May have to make some cuts.
A Redskin Potato
by Mr PotatoHead on Aug 1, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps to our 25 WRs?
May have to make some cuts.
"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I think
they are set at Guard and Center. They cut Rabach to clear out the center position. Would like to see more depth too.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 1, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You think Licht-Will-Chester is "being set"?
I do not.
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It would? We have one WR over 30 and that's Santana Moss.
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dont like arguing with the big men on campus but..
Stokeley 35
Gaffney and Stallworth are turning 31 this year so I guess I shouldnt say a ton, just 4 spots and amend my comment slightly.
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 1, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Stokeley didn't sign with us
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Huge Relief
I heard stokley rumor’s and was pissed. thanks for clearing this up.
Does anyone have the info on the draft pick involved in the Hightower trade?
I heard its conditional but don’t know the conditions
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 1, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i can't see stallworth
being on the opening day roster. especially if kelly steps up (sigh)
We said the same thing about Galloway last year.
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Sorry, but welcome to HH the more discussion the better.
No one should ever feel intimidated.
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No doubt
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I'm glad that's finally out there.
In all seriousness, welcome to everyone that has joined HH over the course of the free agency period, as you can imagine, it’s been busy. PLEASE feel free to contribute, that’s what makes HH great. Sometimes I come across as as an ass (which I am), but discussion here is what makes this the best Redskins fan site on the interwebs.
O and stay away from Diesel.
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Ha..
Ive been an everyday visitor to HH for about 2 and a half years. Always enjoy the info, and the smack talking between some of you guys. But man, what happened to LJP. That shit was entertaining..
Who knows man, guy is off the map.
Do you remember CincyBoy? That was classic.
washingtonwin is the best thing going now.
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haha
Ya, this place has been good for getting me funny looks at work when I laugh out loud in my office. There are some brutal cats in this joint. Love it.. Im glad I joined. It makes it even that much more fun to join in..
I DONT WANT TO RUB ENYONES NOWS INIT BUT I BEEN SANE THAT CENTS LASTYEAR .
I told you guise that Andy read and Rupert Murdoch had a plan that LJP and sincyboy would only be hear for one year and you said im crazy man cuz you dint beelieve it when i said it but they are not here now so guess whose write hmmmmmm . ?
by Jim America on Aug 1, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DUD DONT EVN TRY TO IMTAYT ME
I DON WANNA RUB ANYWONS NOWS IN IT BUT I BEEN USING CAPS THE HOLE TIME AND I BEEN NOTICN THAT FOR A WILE
by TheDeepBall on Aug 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A challenger?
I just hope washingtonwin is honored by our roasting of him wherever he is…sitting in a pile of his own filth.
U haf no ideas how herd i laff when i be reeding yur washintonwin impressssions
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Thank you for the kind welcome, Parks.
I finally feel empowered to speak my mind here and not just sit on the sidelines.
I'm so happy for you, FINALLY!
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I'll be listing the HH power rankings on Friday.
There will be some surprises in the top 10. wasingtonwin is a darkhorse.
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
Was wondering the same thing.
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I think it just means good value was had
With Westbrook, Wilson, and Barnes you have your young guys who can play ST and Buchnanon was solid last year. I’m assuming his deal is a 1-year low money deal.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 1, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Barnes hasn't shown he's half as good as peeps on here think he is
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Another solid signing.
Phillip knows the system, he fits in, productive role player, no complaints here. Roster is getting deeper with each quality addition. Haslett has to be feeling good with what he has, as well as what he does not have anymore, namely one big turd thankfully disposed.
He hasnt sign yet
Grossman hasnt sign , they said he wants more $$
Since when do underperforming shitty Quarterbacks deserve more money ?
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
And he thinks he's in a position to hold out?
Who needs Sexy Rexy when you have the Stormin’ Mormon? He even has a rhyming nickname for Christ sakes!
Yea I mean wher the hell did the Sexy part come from anyhow
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
Why the fuck does everyone keep bringing his religion on here?
Unbelievable! it’s a joke you you bigots, huh. Awesome. go you hate jews as well?
dude calm down.
It’s not about his religion, we just wanted to give him an awesome sounding nickname.
If I were a Mormon and someone said I was the “Stormin Mormon” I’d be like “…dude… That’s fucking AWESOME!”
But you are not.
I am not practicing, but my whole family is. It is rude. It is belittling and used in a negative manner. I guess with a name like “Redskins”, why should I even bother.
And the funny thing is...
Coming from a Mormon family, I know that I am part Native American.
Sounds like somebody going out of their way to get offended
I’ve never heard anything about beck, but gabe carimi says he loves his new nickname; “the bear jew”. I don’t see either as offensive at all. By the way, how awesome would it be to have the bear jew blocking for the stormin mormon? Carimi is a monster.
Dude, I’m not crazy offended, it’s just annoying. Nothing but Mormon this Mormon that. And he blows. Mormons are the butt of all jokes (there is a reason) but damn. After a while it’s tome to move on to something more creative.
They are not the butt of all jokes.
I could probably list a whole bunch of race/religion jokes off the top of my head and none of them are about Mormons.
You need to get down from your high horse, I’m getting whiplash.
I'm Jewish, and I don't find anything wrong with that.
It’s a name for chrissakes. Hell, my grandfather was a fucking holocaust survivor and he’d still laugh.
"Dyslexia?? It's DCO." - WestcoastO'sfan
Not sure which part is more idiotic
1). Getting offended by nicknaming a guy the Stormin’ Mormon.
2). Acting self righteous about the name Redskins when the Mormon religion you’re defending claims that dark-skinned Native Americans are cursed to look that way and live in squalor until they accept Christ and turn white again.
You’re an idiot.
Sorry Beck.
Guess I’m an idiot for asking for people to stop laughing at your religion.
No one was laughing at anyone's religion.
you tried to wedge some nonsensical self-pity into a conversation and then accused all Redskins fans of bigotry.
Get out of here! All i said was it was annoying to mormon shit on here. Whatever, I over reacted, I didn’t expect such a back lash.
Get out of here? No.
I appreciate that you admit to overreacting. However, no one is mocking LDS or any other religion on here. I wouldn’t personally tolerate that. In regard to John Beck, the only part of “stormin’ Mormon” that is mocking is the “stormin’” part.
there was more earlier. Shots about not drinking. Just wrong venus for it. I didn’t really mean it and I do apologize for bring politics and religion onto this site. Back to football.
Jim, you were in the right about four comments back. At this point you come across as a complete asshole.
Long time reader, infrequent poster…
Oh for cripe's sake
Squashed – When you settle an argument; when you’re no longer upset/interested in a dispute.
Bob: I’m sorry for picking a fight with you last night.
Dave: It’s squashed.
Let me avoid the next issue as well and preemptively apologize to all the followers of cripe for my insensitive subject line.
Honestly, it IS a joke.
Stop with the PC bullshit. Ignore it if you don’t like it, but it’s not like we’re rounding up mormons and shooting them in the streets because we make jokes like this. So chill your tits, and move on. It’s really not a big deal, because we’re not poking fun at any of your practices or rituals, however tempting it may be.
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I wonder how the Polish Cannon Bruce Gradkowski feels about his nickname?
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Ha
what else is funny is someone said how becks nickname was so cool because it rhymed. Ha sexy rexy rhymes as well hahaha
by CommunistKevin on Aug 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just noticed your name is Communist Kevin.
Communist’s should be offended.
@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.
Although I usually use "chill your DAMN tits"
It seems to hit home even better.
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I disliked Grossman
as a WHO before, but I didn’t hate him. If this is true, then I now hate him.
by CJHutch on Aug 1, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
POS iPad
I put in ‘QB’ and it changes it to ‘WHO’.
by CJHutch on Aug 1, 2011 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's understandable
on rosters he’s no longer listed as a QB. It just says:
Rex Grossman – WHO?
I am hopeful, but not particularly confident, about Beck
Did you hear how he was having trouble throwing long at the first training camp session? Could be totally meaningless (he must have done better last year) – and we’ll find out a lot more pretty soon – but it points out that John still has to prove that he’s an adequate NFL QB. Rex must be holding out for money. He wants starter money, they want to pay him as a backup. That could be why Shanahan started boosting Beck when he did – money. I wonder if the Rex situation isn’t the reason they haven’t moved on Franklin, Edwards, Tutupu, Crowder – they don’t know how much they will have to pay him or somebody else, so don’t know how much money they have left.
Beck
Yeah beck seems to be either under throwing everyone or flinging it waaaay over in camp so far. Nerves from being the possible starter? Or just not good? Time will tell I suppose.
I've only heard these types of comments in regard to his deep passes.
His short/intermediate throws have been getting pretty good reviews.
Cool.
Glad to hear the short ball is looking good. I have a feeling that with Stallworth and Moss though, we’re going to have our fair share of deep routes. Let’s hope he can fine tune that some.
Actually I read that he did much better even with the deep balls today.
Hit Anthony Armstrong in stride down the field, but AA dropped it.
No no no
Carlos snuck into camp wearing #13. They realized it when he dropped the pass.
It crazy,
It seems like I can remember watching him in college and it seemed like he could just flick the ball 70 yards.. Wonder where he lost his arm?
Good deal. I remember really thinking he was good in college.
However, Im over here in the West where we dont see the big school guys. He was a stud in this part of the county.
Kind of like being the tallest midget
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey now...
we see our share of good QBs out west. The reigning SB champ QB is from Cal. The consensus best college QB in the nation plays at Stanford. USC has produced several NFL starters in a row and currently has a 1st round prospect. Locker was a big prospect. Derek Anderson and Matt Moore somehow managed to start for NFL teams. We’re rocking Clemens from Oregon.
For the limited number of schools out here, I’d say the West is doing just fine at producing QBs.
at least he won't
one hop the short routes like our guy Dmac. small wins.
True
Dont need him at all, hope he stays away for good.Theres talk if he doesnt sign might go after someone eles… You know who..
Just talk
Redskins said if he doesnt sign by Thur. we will go from there..
pleaseohpleaseohplease
Seriously, even the people who are Rex lovers have to admit its goofy for this guy to be making ANY demands. We are the ONLY team he will EVER get a shot to start on. If not the only team who would even sign him.
by CJHutch on Aug 1, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
It is dumb that he holding out
but man you amaze me again. Rex will sign with a team for sure. Think on your own for once. He threw more Td than int. He had a rating over 80. He did fumble too much but not all his fault
by CommunistKevin on Aug 1, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I am
thinking in my own. I seem to be the only person on here against bringing him back. But I’m not basing that off of one year. I have disliked Rex as a QB since he came in to the league. He has ALWAYS been a turnover machine.
Again, I don’t think you understand my stance. I think he’s fine as a backup, and he may even be better than Beck as a starter. But if we sign him, he will most assuredly start because of Kyle. And having him start from the jump is essentially swimming upstream for us. We know what we’re gonna get, with no chance at all of improving the output of that position. At least with Beck in there I can hold out the hope of improved QB play from last year.
I also am not sure he would sign anywhere else. As I said before, Houston could have signed him back (since he’s “familiar with the system”), but they chose to go with a guy in Leinhart who doesn’t even seem to care about football.( Personally, I’d take Rex over Leinhart, though that has nothing to do with skillsets. ) However, regardless of whether or not he has other opportunities, I GUARANTEE you this is the only, opportunity he would have to start. So holding out is a huge gamble, and pretty idiotic to boot. He has no leverage to squeeze more money out of us. Regardless of what you may remember, his play was average at best last year. And his 8 turnovers in 5 games are a huge red flag for Shanny.
Love the way were doing things
Were alot better off then last year for sure..
Yeah. No fucking McNabb trade
"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
They Say
They said might go after the QB in Denver they think its just talk..
that wouldn't
hurt my feelings. trading for orton would be quite the curveball. can’t give up too much
Oh, yeah, I forgot - there've been whispers about Orton for quite awhile
He apparently got a bonus a few days ago, making it less likely that he’ll be traded. I can’t remember what the rumored deals were, though. I’d think that Orton would be substantially better than anybody we have, but hardly a franchise quarterback.
rather have matt flynn then orton....
maybe greenbay would take hainworth mcnabb and our 2nd rounder for him? and throw in rex grossman as late round bonus because he would knows shanahans SYSTEM better:)
Clearly you have not paid any attention at all this off season.
We traded AH and McNabb awy already, and we haven’t even resigned Grossman yet. Please, for the love of God, go update yourself on the things the Redskins have done so far.
i was joking about mcnabb and hainsworth lol. but i wish we could get matt flynn as out 3 year starter till we grown out number 1 draft pick next
till we groom our number 1 draft pick that we get next year. must rather have traded for flynn over hightower. might have cost us more but i think he would be worth it… alot more then orton
So you want to give a number 2 draft pick
for a holdover QB. Is that what I’m hearing? Think for a moment about how stupid that sounds.
he won the games that he started last year... the pack couldnt win without mathews..
the dude looked great to me… but then again im a redskins fan.. so im not used to seeing great gbs… i think matt would be well worth a second rounder.. ied say he better then kolb or orton easy… he is stuck on the bench because of rogers who is a elite qb…. they had no running game and he still came into those games and won. i think he be perfect for us to get for the next 3-4 years
You would trade away the second rounder we might need
to trade up to grab Luck or Jones in the draft?
Just read
I just read where CB Kelvin Hayden is coming this week to talk to the Skins..
Lofa Tatupu and Kelvin Hayden are both visiting
We’ll probably pick up Taupu
Thats what Im screamin.
Sounds kinda like a hothead, and totally defy’s my “character guys” post I had before, but he’s not too old, and could help us out.. MOSTLY depends on his asking price though.. Did he play in the 3-4 though?
I'm unsure
however this day and age everyone is playing some sort of ‘hybrid’ 3-4 scheme, Crowder brings some added ‘fire’ to the D if he’s signed with the Skins, and you stated what is his asking price. This is the determining factor…
Yes, please
after hearing what a Skins fan from Seattle had to say, I prefer Crowder to Tatupu.
Live in Spokane, WA
and i’ve loved watching Tat play. Man can move and is one of the best tacklers I’ve seen but the best thing about him is he doesn’t tire out. Seems to get faster as the game goes.
Interesting
i think the other WA cat said he thought Lofa was shying away from contact after his injury, and his performance suffered because of it. I defer to both of you though.
This is a pretty accurate statement of Tatupu's 2010 season, I think.
However, before the injury, he was a damned good player. All over the field and a great tackler. Sometimes with injuries, it just takes some time to feel comfortable with going 100% again, and this could be the case with Tatupu. However, his injury history goes back farther than just last season, and who knows if he’s fully recovered from last season.
I’ve got some interest in him, but I’ll trust our coaches and medical staff to make whatever call they think is best.
Jefferson provided some stats on Tatupu that didn't make him look too good
especially last year. Skins have to check that he still has it.
Due diligence
will certainly need to be done on his medical condition that’s for certain. Even if he looks good not sure how he’ll fit, kinda small, but I’d really like to root for this guy AS a Redskin.
Rex will be solid
Just for little cj the biggest grossman hater on here. I guarantee that Rex will beat out Beck. And I guarantee he will throw for over 3500 yards. And about 25 Td with a rating in the mid eighties
Wow...
those are some lofty goals for Mr. Rex. We can’t be too delusional on this guy. We certainly need a new QB soon. Perhaps not this year but soon. If we could trade for Orton I would be all over that. If we had him I’d have a faint possibility of us making the playoffs this year that’s how high I am on our team…perhaps now I’m be delusional.
He was on track for much more than that in his 3 games last season.
And that was with a Defense that couldn’t get off the field, no WR corps, Barely a semblance of a running game and a worse OL than we have right now.
Exactly
but Rex still is so hated and made fun of. There is no other qb ripped on like him. Just because you heard that Rex is bad and it is a big joke. Do people ever think on their own. Im not saying that he is a freaking superstar. But there is plenty worse than him
by CommunistKevin on Aug 1, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's right.
I am hoping of course that Beck can be better than him but if not Rex is a serviceable stopgap until we can grab Luck or Jones next year.
I don’t know why anybody at all wants us to go for Orton. Did ONE good season really make everybody forget that Orton is a mediocre QB?
Oh please
look, I will agree that Rex isn’t as terrible as some folks on here claim. However, statements like this:
There is no other qb ripped on like him.
are completely ridiculous. Did you just start paying attention last year? Nevermind, even if you had, you would know McNabb got ripped on just as much. Ever heard of Jason Campbell? Heath Shuler? Gus Frerotte? Hell, John Beck gets ripped on just as much, and he hasn’t even played yet. The list goes on.
This is the nature of the quarterback position in DC. It’s kinda dumb, but get used to it. And please don’t insult my intelligence by acting like poor Mr. Grossman is somehow being picked on unlike any other…it’s simply not the case.
Ok
You know im from the Chicago area so i got to see how he was treated here and it was nuts in his first full season as a starter. So I might be a little over defending on him but the players you listed might have been disliked but not as much as him league wide. You are not that bad. People like cj though are insane with their hatred.
by CommunistKevin on Aug 1, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Trust me
nobody cares about him league wide. My take on why he got crapped on by Bears fans so much is because he was in a QB controversy with a guy that was clearly better than him in Orton. That’s my take anyway.
I also am from Chicago and my memory is that Chicagoans hated Rex far more than
Skins fans disliked any of the guys you named. Nobody hated or even disliked Jason – it’s just that after awhile a part of the fandom didn’t have much confidence in him. This includes fans and sportswriters. And HH was strongly pro-Campbell. Gus may have gotten some ridicule, but nobody disliked him. In Chicago, with Rex, it was personal – they hated him – bum, terrible, loser, screwup, trade him – rally nasty and negative. And all the criticism spread to other cities, and has made Rex something of a pariah – unfairly, in my opinion. Washington is actually a pretty nice, easy going sports town – not like Philly or even NY. I think Chicago is normally pretty understanding, too, but they really dumped on Rex. Beck has been treated extremely well considering his resume.
by Donnio1234 on Aug 1, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who did coach dummy smith start in the superbowl when they played the colts?
wasnt it rex? that gave manning his 1 and only superbowl?? i remember hesting running the kick off back to give the bears a 7-0 lead and the bears d keep stffing the colts but the QB kept turning the ball over in either the colts side or deep in bears side… so i dont blame them 1 bit for hating that qb….
Please
look at his stats from the super bowl. They were not that bad. He threw a desperation int that was returned for a Td as they were desperately trying
To score. So I guess if you lose the super bowl you should be hated
by CommunistKevin on Aug 1, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
donnio you are right my man. The hatred was insane and it spread to the national media and then the vast majority of fans just followed along. There are tons of qbs who are worse but they are mocked endlessly. And the qb controversy in chi was mainly between grossman and griese not Orton. By the time Orton was in the mix rexs reputation was already ruined
by CommunistKevin on Aug 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ha ha
It’s been a long time since I’ve been called little. Funnystuff.
I dunno if you’re joking about these stats or what. I’m just curious, have you seen Rex’s play BEFORE last year? Bottom line – he is what he is. He ain’t gettin any better. He’ll give you a borderline spectacular half here and there, but for the most part its dink and dunk between turnovers. One thing I’ll give him, he always keeps it interesting, along with always finding a new and exciting way of giving the ball to the other team. Remember his first play from scrimmage last year?
As for the stats themselves, they don’t do much for me. That’s probably just about what we got outta the position last year, which falls in line with what I said up top about not improving on the QB play. Stats don’t mean a thing if you only end up with 6 wins. As a Skins fan, you should know that.
Haha
Hey that first fumble was entirely his fault. People fumble on blind side sacks. Sorry i got a little enraged. But I truly do feel like he is way too disrespected. And ive been following him since highschool so I am big fan
by CommunistKevin on Aug 2, 2011 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Not entirely his fault
It is hard to do this from a phone
by CommunistKevin on Aug 2, 2011 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I liked your first
response better. Seriously though, I DO realize that most QB fumbles can be attributed to breakdowns. But I also know some QB’s don’t fumble in those situations. Campbell did. But I can remember one play early in the season, may have been against the Giants, when McNabb was hit in the (ball holding) hand while it was down, and he held on to it. I was actually pretty amazed. In fact, I think it was actually in the end zone.
As for the Grossman play, his fault or not, he gets credited with it. The reason I blame him for it is because, and I am not lying here, I told my wife he would fumble it as he was coming in. Did I think the play would turn out that disastrous? No. But, again, those types of plays seem to follow him. They may not all be his fault, but he seems to have a knack for them. I liken it to D. Hall’s INT’s. He usually gets them not because of some spectacular play on the ball, but because the ball seems to find him. I think those type of plays “find” Rex.
Love the Buchanon signing
This guy was not perfect last year, but I will not forget his clutch coverage on Reggie Wayne last season. The guy has a chance to start, but regardless, this guy is the nickel corner we need if Barnes isn’t ready to take the reigns.
You're right
If we had won that game, buchanon’s coverage of wayne would have been a big reason.
Does this mean no Kelvin Hayden for sure?
or is the visit still set up?
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who needs to throw against us???
when a QB or RB can gash our 3-4 for 8 yards a clip at will??? im still in shock we have the same coach running the 3-4….
I don't know if you realize this
but we drafted a run-stopping DE, signed a guy who’s willing and competent at the NT position, and a pass-rushing DE for the other side. We drafted Ryan Kerrigan to help on the outside and are probably going to sign Tatupu at ILB to play alongside Fletcher.
And don’t forget we have Landry back and we signed Atogwe so Landry can play closer to the LOS. The scheme had nothing to do with it, it was the players and we fixed that. You are way too negative, man.
Ya he should have been fired after the first loss.
Hell after the first time someone gained yardage on us he should have been taken to the middle of the field and shot like a lame horse. Seriously.
I'm pretty sure Shanahan asked him to.
But there is no reason to base Haslett’s performance on last year’s Defense. Most of the time players were in a position to tackle and then ended up missing it (Hi, Kareem Moore), or the DLine failed to do its job (Hi Kemo). Give Haslett this season to prove his worth before you hold his feet to the flames.
Shanahan demanded the 3-4 - over the advice of 100% of the people on HH
and despite not having hardly any of the right people and despite knowing that he was alienating his best player. Go figure. But you can’t blame Haslett except maybe for not telling the king that he had no clothes. Mike’s great idea got us ranked as the 31st defense in the league – couldn’t stop the run, couldn’t get off the field.
The offense actually racked up some pretty good numbers.
we had a good team last year
we beat both packers and bears….why ruin the best thing about us? it has been our defence.. bad kicking and low scroring has really what has kept us out of the playoffs the last ten years…
What in God's name are you talking about? Did you even watch the games last year?
Our offense scored less than 18 points per game.
was talking about the past 10 years.... but last year
the colts, texans, a few other teams we were up on by over 10 points and still lost. back when we were still in the playoff hunt early in the year.. it almost looked like we wanted to lose alot of the games last year to be honest.
Its been a team of "do as little as possible" for the last few years..
We can go and hang with and/or beat a quality team, and then the next week, take it easy and lose to an 0 and twenty something Lions team.. They need to get a little hungrier.. Thats why Im all about the character guys over the big names. Wish we had a whole team of Fletchers and OJ’s (Not Simpson)…
sounds good to me.
im always saying the skins are gonna win the superbowl…. but i just cant seem to say that this year. im thinking 3-13 tops :(
Jeez Munson.
You’ve been a real downer ever since those guys stuck your hand in the ball return. You really need to find an Amish guy and a hot chick to change your attitude.
If we could get Juice (in his prime) on this roster...
…he’d be our best offensive player. I’d take him in a heartbeat.
Was OJ trouble in the locker room?
No. Was he trouble off the field during his playing days? No. I’ll take that.
As for his crime… I refer you to Chris Rock’s sentiment on the subject.
First of all it was a joke....
nothing about the original post is worthy of a serious reply. (not knocking you, it’s just a silly post). Secondly, we have no idea how he was in the locker room, we didn’t have that kind of access back then. Thirdly, if you are going to play that game forget OJ and bring in Joe Montana. Chris Johnson is the closest this out there to OJ and he can’t even get into the playoffs.
Yup
signed today. He and Gano will battle it out. I’m hoping Shayne wins.
is Tatupa confirmed for a
Visit tomorrow
by alldat070 on Aug 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Some time this week
was the last i heard for the visit. don’t know if it’s tomorrow or not as he just left oakland today.
Looking forward to seeing Kellen.
Seems like he did a decent job on the Jets while he was there. I think their top receiver was Cotchery during his time there. Would like to see what he does with us.
Any more O-line on the radar?
Anyone getting released? Don’t see any more trades happening with us until next draft. Think we’ll break the bank for Luck?
Anyone know of a way...
to get on the Redskins sideline at an away game? Looking at the Redskins going to Seattle this year and that would be a dream come true.
Wilson's job
I’d like to see Barnes beat out Buchanon actually. But I’m happy he resigned.
by Dammit Cerrato... on Aug 2, 2011 1:50 AM EDT reply actions
defensive backs
I thinks he’s a realible veteran and he could play, thats all that matters and he could teach the young guys some things. The redskins are moving in the right direction let’s let cry baby rodgers go since he doesn’t want to be here keep the vet with the othe talent, now that’s a nice mixture to play with. I hope we realize that we’re rebounding so this year is really up in the air so don’t expect alot and if the have a 8-8 record give them a hand for doing a good job with all the new changes that happened.
Good depth signing.
"By far the worst performers on the (Redskins) are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
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I see a lot of people talking about what would be needed to trade up for Luck, I don’t think that pick is for sale. It doesnt matter what you give, I cant think of any team giving up the rights to a player like that, though it is a good QB draft so trading up for Barkley or Jones is possible.
by alwaysremember21 on Aug 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
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