Perry Riley is a player to watch in 2011...or not?
There has been a certain amount of buzz about Perry Riley all year, all of it seemingly positive. The question I want to ask to all of you out there-what are you seeing that I am not?
This is not a post hating on Riley, it's just that I don't see what everyone else is excited about other than YouTube clips from his college days. After the jump, I'll put up his career statistics in the NFL and show you how they compare to other Redskin linebackers and maybe a few linebackers from other teams. I'm not really seeing even an average linebacker here-come on people convince me I'm wrong.
Riley was picked in the fourth round at 103rd overall. Here are Riley's stats from 2010-8 games played, seven tackles. None of those tackles were for loss or even on the opponent side of the field. No Starts, no passes defensed, no sacks, no forced fumbles, no assists. now I know this was his first year and that the defense was in the middle of a scheme change. But you have to admit, this is very low production even without comparing it to other first-year linebackers.
Some examples:
Darnell Young-16 games, 12 tackles and one assist
Chris Wilson-16 games, 11 tackles, two assists, and four sacks in his rookie year of 2007. In his first year under Shanahan and the 34 defense, he played in 16 games, had 12 tackles and six assists along with two forced fumbles.
Rocky McIntosh-played 16 games and started two in his rookie season. He had 25 tackles and three assists that year. I don't think it's fair to compare his 2010 statistics as a fifth-year player, but here they are: 15 games played and started, 73 tackles and 37 assists. Along with this were three passes defensed and one forced fumble.
Rob Jackson in his rookie year of 2008-got into three games and made one tackle. In 2010 Rob got into two games at the end of the season. In his first game against Jacksonville he went wild; three tackles, one sack, and a forced fumble. Unfortunately in his last game of 2010 he was not able to equal or exceed that performance and had no tackles.
HB Blades-in his rookie year of 2007 played in 16 games, and had 16 tackles and five assists. In 2010 Blades again played in 16 games and started one, 11 tackles and seven assists.
I am going to leave Lorenzo Alexander out of this, because he played so many positions and is a star on special teams that it would be hard to fairly compare him to linebackers. But, Lorenzo has been a consistent contributor since he started getting action in 2007.
Robert Henson has played only one season in 2009: he got into six games with two tackles.
Now for some other linebackers taken in the fourth round or later behind Riley.
Eric Norwood: Eric got into 15 games for the Panthers and got 13 tackles and one sack and one forced fumble. He was picked as the 124th pick overall.
Sylvesterr Stevenson: got into 16 games in his rookie season of 2010 with the Steelers. He had 13 tackles, one assist, and one forced fumble.
Roderick Muckelroy: was taken by the Cincinnati Bengals at 131st overall. In 2010, he had four tackles, six assists, and two forced fumbles in 14 games.
Philip Dillard: was drafted by the New York Giants at 115th overall. In 2010 he got into seven games with three tackles and one assist to show for it.
Dekoda Watson: was drafted by the Buccaneers at 217th pick overall. He got into 15 games for Tampa Bay, starting one of them. His stats for his rookie season are 25 tackles, and six assists along with one pass defensed.
Kavell Conner: was drafted by the Indianapolis Colts at pick number 240. He suited up for 12 games, starting nine of them. His stats-36 tackles, 21 assists, and one forced fumble.
And finally, the one that sticks in my craw the most…
at pick 210 going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cody Grimm; son of Hall of Famer Russ Grimm and a local product out of Virginia Tech.
In 2010 Cody suited up for 11 games and started nine of them-look at this production!
43 tackles, 14 assists, two passes defensed, two interceptions (one returned for a touchdown), and one forced fumble.
Now considering the Redskins play a 34 defense which requires a lot of linebackers, why did Reilly only get into eight games? his production was surely below most of the people I listed, but especially in the last four games when the Redskins were out of the playoffs, you would expect to see at least one flash or a start.
So, Perry Riley promoters, what am I missing? We have plenty of potential openings at the linebacker positions. If Riley was showing anything in practice, I would think that the Shanahan's would've given him more playing time. I honestly would not be surprised if he didn't make it out of training camp this year.
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I messed up bad
by the maroon bird on Apr 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cody grimm
Last year I was hoping to draft him he plays hard and is very determined to be great.
by the maroon bird on Apr 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Had Riley been given a starting role last season
His numbers would have been up there with the other young Backers you mentioned. If you watched and LSU games over the past 3 seasons, you’ll see why people familiar with the Redskins are high on Riley. He is going to fit nicely at MLB in our 3-4. he is smart, athletic, hard working, good in coverage, and has a nose for the ball. Kid can also deliver the lumber when he arrives.
Two words for you: Perfect Fit
I got Tiger Blood running through my veins!
Not to get off on a tangent
but this defense has some good young talent – Barnes, Jarmon, Riley, Henson, Jackson. All kids who could become major contributors this season.
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Yes Tiller, but why we didn't see it this season?
I mean the coach said himself the last three games were to be for evaluation. The only guy I can recall taking advantage of this at linebacker was Rob Jackson; he had one very good game, but couldn’t get on a run in his following game. I would call that a flash, and I would like to see more of him in the games.
The nose tackle Bryant also did a very good job in those last three games, I think he has earned more playing time next year.
Jarmon? Did he do anything at all last season? I know it’s not all his fault, the coaching staff dicked around with him all season. I’m willing to see what he’s got in the 2011 season, but he better produce somewhere-when you have this much time invested in a player with no production (also see Malcolm Kelly), at what point do you say enough is enough?
I like Henson, hope he can stay healthy and earn some playing time.
But back to Riley, all those adjectives you’re using to describe him should result in some on-field production I would think. He’s playing special teams, and the only thing I’ve seen him do was make a stupid unnecessary blocking the back on one of banks touchdown returns. Rookie mistake I hope.
It’s just that I keep hearing always wonderful things about Redskins players that never seem to see the football field, and when they do, they don’t seem to take advantage and show their skills.
Come on, look at all the other rookie linebackers and see what they did this year, why was Riley an exception?
You say "His numbers would have been up there with the other young Backers you mentioned" and the word that is missing is "IF"; why do you feel he’s not getting the playing time or producing? We’ve had lots of players with potential, but they never seem to pan out here. I’m afraid that Riley is going to be one of those, convince me why I should think otherwise.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone
Specifically stated in a Pickled Hogs interview that the reason Jarmon didn’t see much action was because of how things worked at Redskins Park last season; the younger guys just had to wait their turn. I assume the same goes for Riley.
Jarmon actually had some good games last year
He was asked to transform his body to become a DE, and it no doubt took him some time to adjust. Don’t forget, he was always a rush DE. He’s over 290 now, and supposedly still has that amazing quick first step.
Jackson was surprisingly good in his limited action at OLB last season, which has me hyped to see more. It’s time to see what these young guys are made of, before making wholesale changes.
I got Tiger Blood running through my veins!
I agree....
we gotta see what these guys can really do, it is crucial that they step up, I am cautiously hopeful.
LoAx lost weight
and has supposedly gotten quicker. From what I’ve heard, he’s working his tail off to be a better fit at OLB. Thats why I love him. Gotta route for a guy like him. I will not put anything past him, and he is also some of the reason I’m against drafting an OLB in the 1st or 2nd. I just don’t think it’s top priority.
Same can be said for Jarmon, and drafting a DE. Why waste a pick, until we find out what we already have on the team.
I got Tiger Blood running through my veins!
I agree 100% on both counts...
Lorenzo’s is a jersey I would be proud to wear, love the way he attacks the game.
I'm very excited to see him with another year under his belt in the 3-4
I know not many around here are very high on him at that position, but I think he’ll be much better. He could also be used situationally, where he is in on 1st and 2nd down, then we bring in Jackson as a 3rd down pass rusher.
BTW, I liken Jackson to the Dolphins Wake. That kid came out of no where, and lit shit up last year.
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I think part of it is that he was the second draft pick used by our new regime.
No more Cerrato head-scratchers. Hopefully.
If Shanahan and Lou Spanos see something in the kid, I’m excited to see it pan out.
I remember him being a fairly intimidating presence in pre-season last year too.



























