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Redskins Trade Idea: RB Steve Slaton

Now I know I'm typically the one to rail against trading for veteran players, but if the 'price is right' I'm always interested. Steve Slaton has fallen out of favor in Houston and is now 4th on their depth chart. Not only does this mean that Slaton is available, but that his price is likely to be at the bare minimum. 

Case for Making the Trade:

  • Slaton is still very young, he will play next year at the age of 25
  • Shouldn't cost too much in a trade, great buy low candidate 
  • Slaton is a very good 'one-cut' back, who can excel in the zone blocking system
  • He's different from Torain and Williams, good change of pace type of back
  • He has good speed and can break out some long gains
  • Very good at catching the ball out of the backfield, in 2009 in 11 games he had 44 catches
  • Ran for nearly 1,300 yards as a rookie, at 4.8 ypc.
  • Not only does he know the ZBS and WC offense, but Kyle Shanahan was his O.C. in '08 and '09.
  • Cheaper than most free agents, only makes $1.2 million this season
Reasons for Concern:
  • Only under contract for one more season
  • While he has done it, Slaton isn't a 25 carry  a game type of back if Torain goes down
  • Would cost the Redskins resources via a trade, might not be much, but there isn't a lot to spare
  • Rushing numbers went down and he had some fumbling issues in 2009
  • Very new to playing special teams, won't make the impact most backup running backs are expected to make
  • Has limited kickoff return experience and didn't look good doing it
Analysis and a trade proposal after the jump:

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Analysis:

I think Slaton's positives far outweigh his negatives. The only real concern for me is his contract status, though that is part of the reason he is so cheap. The Redskins might be able to extend him cheaply for a year or two, to help protect their investment. As for the rest of the negatives, I don't see them as much of a hurdle. The Redskins were going to use resources on a FA running back or a late round draft pick anyways, so that makes it basically a wash (though they would be under contract for longer).

His numbers going down in 2009 is worrisome, but at the same time it seemed a little overblown as a concern. I think teams focused on him more that season, and as a whole the Texans running game struggled, as their top three backs all averaged under 4.0 ypc. Also, while his rushing totals faltered, he was very good at catching the ball out of the backfield and still was a significant contributor. 

I think Slaton, with his speed and quick cutting ability, is the perfect fit for the Redskins system (as was proven in 2008), and could excel in more of a change of pace role. If we try to keep his carries in the 10-15 times a game category, he should be more effective. I am also a big fan of pass catching ability. Although Keiland Williams did a good job in the passing game, Slaton has more home run ability and brings a completely different threat to a defense. Knowing Kyle Shanahan's system is a big plus in my book, and also a primary reason why I think this could become reality.

The Deal:

Given Slaton's perceived low value, I would propose the Redskins to use a similar frame work as the Adam Carriker trade last year. Instead of trading away a late round pick for Slaton, I'd propose the following deal to the Texans: Our 5th round pick from the Saints, number 152 *(note pick numbers will change slightly as there will likely be compensation picks earlier in the draft that will push these down a couple of spots) for their 6th rounder, number 173. and Slaton. The Redskins would essentially lose 21 (plus a few more based on the number of comp. picks at the end of round 5) spots of draft positioning, but gain Slaton for their troubles. 

Will it be enough? Honestly it is hard to say. The Texans are very likely to move him, and while there will be a market for his services, it won't turn into a bidding war. I don't think they will get anything above a late 6th or early 7th rounder for Slaton. That would be slightly more value than the Skins deal, but not by much. 

What do you think? Is Slaton worth swapping picks for?

Steve Shoup has been a Redskins fan his entire life and dreams of the day they get back to the glory days of his youth. In addition to his regular piece on Hogs Haven, you can find his daily writings at Fanspeak.com.

Poll
Should the Redskins swing a deal for Steve Slaton?
Yes, but only if it is for swapping the 5th rounder for their 6th
431 votes
Yes, they need to make this happen even if they have to give up a little more
99 votes
No, not worth it
204 votes

734 votes | Poll has closed

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I actually like this idea

Slaton had fumbling problems which put him in Kub’s dog house, but don’t forget another running back who’s been in the news a lot as of late that also had fumbling problems early in his career. How did that turn out?

I’d love Slaton as a Skin

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by Tiller56 on Mar 9, 2011 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

yeah i think too much gets made of fumbling issues

it is something that can be worked on and improved. And great point about Tiki

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

fumbling scares the shit out of me, but I do believe, like you, that there are some thing that can be done to correct it.

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by Tiller56 on Mar 9, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it's def.

 not something you ignore, i just feel like it gets over blown.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Shanny will help with the fumbling issue, but i'm sure the RB coach can

Shanny finds late round success stories at RB, b/c he doesn’t focus on just the 40 time. That first cut is the most important thing for a ZBS back. Slaton has that, and that is why Shanny can make him successful, because he does know how to utilize running backs (now if he can learn that lesson on defense).

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Your 100% right

Slaton is much better suited for a one-cut-and-go system. He’s not as powerful between the tackles as I would like, but he makes up for that with speed and lateral quickness.

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by Tiller56 on Mar 10, 2011 6:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys

will disregard his penchant for putting the ball on the ground until he’s wearing B&G and then he’ll be a dog we should have never traded for. Be careful what you wish for.

by DudleyDoright on Mar 9, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't like him..

Great rookie year and then nothing the last 2 years. He also plays soft, is a below avg KR and blocker, and fumbles way too much.

I consider myself a one man wolfpack..

by Diesel44 on Mar 9, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

So, we toughen his ass up

teach him to carry the ball high and tight, make him watch hours upon hours of Clinton Portis blocking, and don’t use him as a KR……………………..problem solved

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by Tiller56 on Mar 9, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus he's a mountaineer.

I consider myself a one man wolfpack..

by Diesel44 on Mar 9, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Who easy now.

You can’t disrespect my Terps like that.

by Copious 1 on Mar 9, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Diesel disrespects my Lions all the time

prob because we always beat them for the best recruits in Maryland

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by Tiller56 on Mar 9, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a plus

The only difference between a kiss-ass and a brown-noser is depth perception

by DCEer on Mar 9, 2011 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I get that, but it's also why he is a low risk-high reward guy

He thrived in the running game in year one under Shanny, and in year two he was pretty dangerous out of the backfield catching the ball. The rushing numbers were down, but they were down across the board in Houston, so is that all on him? Last year it’s hard to blame him, it really looks like he wasn’t on the same page with the new Off. coordinator and Kubiak obviously wasn’t his proponent.

I also think he has the skill set to return kicks, he just never really did it before so it is hard to judge him on one year of doing it.

He thrived once under Shanahan, and I think it could happen again. If they asked for our 5th pick i’d say no, but if it was for a 7th or just swapping picks I’m on board.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Your crazy

.

If they asked for our 5th pick i’d say no

Considering we have 2 5th’s, I do that deal in a heart beat

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by Tiller56 on Mar 9, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

So.....

If Steve Slaton was in this draft this year. You wouldn’t draft him in the 5th round? If Roy Helu Jr. is and option why wouldn’t Slaton be?

by Copious 1 on Mar 9, 2011 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

I would think long and hard about the deal

if the Texans offered him straight up for our 5th rounder, but i’d probably say no. Now if it was draft day and there had been a run on backs, then maybe I’d change my tune, but as it stands now i would choose Helu, Lewis, Locke, etc. since they will be under contract for longer.

i like Steve Slaton, a lot and think he can be extremely productive, but I believe everyone has a value and the Skins shouldn’t exceed that value. There are plenty of extra ways I’d feel more comfortable with increasing our offer. Adding the 7th rounder we are getting from the Colts. Swapping their 7th for our late 5th as opposed to their 6th. Adding a player, obviously not any sort of star but someone who they might want to fill out a roster etc.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Not the same

Steve Slaton has one year left on his contract before he’s an FA. You’re using a 5th rd draft pick (which could be used to acquire a player cheaply for a few years) for a one year rental.

"DOWN GOES RODGERS!" -Brian Orakpo

by ThaRak on Mar 9, 2011 10:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Slaton would be a good pickup for the Skins

I liked him when he first got in the league but he just got lost in the mix. I honestly don’t even want to give up one place in the draft. If he’s not cut, move on.

by HogHunter on Mar 9, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Somebody was pushing him last year, too

If very cheap, why not? Compare him to anybody else we might get in the draft or FA.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 9, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Steveo-

The only reason he regressed from his Rookie year is because of his fumbling problems?

I admit, I don’t know much about Slaton, but if fumbling really is his only problem, that’s definitely doable and you guys should go for him… just don’t give up too much for him like you guys have done for others in the past.

"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley

by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 9, 2011 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

and I think giving up either 5th is definitely worth it

if you can get him to revert back to that first year…

"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley

by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 9, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i just have a feeling he can be had for less

Texans have 3 backs ahead of him now, and I think they will take what they can get.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot less.

Especially if he’s cut. I wouldn’t give up a pick for him.

I consider myself a one man wolfpack..

by Diesel44 on Mar 9, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Good post

Nice job pointing out the pros and cons.

by mdm1185 on Mar 9, 2011 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

thanks!

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Atogwe I wanted Slaton last year....

and i still do. We need a change of pace back bad and if we can keep picks to grab him I’m all for it.

As for the fumbles….If it worked for that old Barber guy, I think it could work for Steve. I REALLY want him in a Skins uni.

by TheUberest on Mar 9, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

seconded haha

why can’t someone hire Vinny Cerrato don’t we deserve to rob opposing teams blindly after we were the victim for so many years

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 9, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice!

On the message board pretty much everyone on there was okay for trading him for a 5th (though they didn’t say whether they were good for the swapping picks scenario)

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 10, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

No more trading draft picks - please!

Plus he sucks… good get an equal value player in the 5th or 6th round

by ImFROMdc88 on Mar 9, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Steve you need to get off these Pitt and WVU's players jock.

I’m starting to think you want our whole team to be alum of the two schools, haha.

Slaton really impressed me with that 1 yard kick return going out of bounds within the 10 yard line.

If we gave up a 5 for Slaton, I’d be pissed. RB like this are a dime a dozen, and Shanny is pointing more towards Keiland as a kick returner, I don’t think Slaton is that much of an upgrade.

by Parks Smith on Mar 10, 2011 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

 I don’t see this guy as a “Steal” at at 5th round value. Even for a pick swap. I voted NO.
I’m not trading a 2piece and a biscuit for a turnover prone, 4th string running back with 1 year left on his contract. I’d rather have a UDFA rb to compete.

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Mar 10, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The Skins sound like they are def. bringing someone in

as they know Torain can’t hold up for a season. If it’s not Slaton it will likely be a Ronnie Brown or someone of that ilk, who’s career is on the downside, yet we are paying them millions.

Also remember one team’s 4th stringer, could be another team’s starter. Slaton might not be the true number 1 back in Washington, but he could be 1B or at worst number 2.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 10, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying Slaton is perfect

but I don’t think he is a dime a dozen either. There aren’t many speed backs in FA this year (though Reggie Bush could be cut to add to the mix) and Leon Washington has already been resigned. While there is a fair number of speed options in the draft (and i’m not talking just 40 speed, but quick little backs), but a fair number of them will be off the board when we are on the clock again in the 5th round. And of those guys still available not all of them fit in our system. Scott from Maryland has a fantastic 40 time, but he doesn’t have that cutting ability you’d like to see in ZBS. Devine, I think has the shiftiness, but unlike guys like Slaton or Dion Lewis, he can’t absorb any contact.

As for the kick return thing, i’m not saying he’d be perfect, but that it was his first go around at that, so I really don’t hold him accountable for his stats. I wouldn’t hand him the job, but if he shows enough in Training camp/preseason I think he has the ability to do it well.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 10, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys can have crack #2 @ Brian Westbrook...

"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley

by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 10, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

also, what about Darren Sproles?

"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley

by Ralf E Chubbs on Mar 10, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sproles is coming off two years of making $6+ million

He’s not going to get that much, but he will cost a significant amount.

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by Steve Shoup on Mar 10, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have

Noelle Devine or Bilal Powell for a 5th or 6th round pick than Steve Slaton. If we’re talking about swapping picks, then our later 5th for a 6th wouldn’t be a terrible deal. This guy has no place in Houston, so we shouldn’t give up much at all to acquire him.

by CarverM on Mar 10, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Steveo-26

Helu- 11 reps @225 is pathetic. Since he went to Neb and not WVU or Pitt, I’m not sure if you posted that player profile……….but just saying

I consider myself a one man wolfpack..

by Diesel44 on Mar 10, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

No Trade for Slaton

I’m a fan of both the Redskins and the Mountaineers. I would love to see Slaton here. But I’m not so sure that I would trade for him. The fumbling and durability problems are red flags, but the main reason I wouldn’t trade for him is that if he is a fourth string RB in the doghouse, then he’s probably going to be released this year. Why give up a draft pick or draft position if you can get him for free? Most teams only keep three backs. Even if the Texans don’t release him, the Redskins can probably find a RB/KR in the fifth round that doesn’t have the fumbling/durability issues.

by Midniterc on Mar 11, 2011 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

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