Combine QBs: To Throw or Not To Throw? That's A Stupid Question
For someone who has never paid much attention to the combine (everything is on film), I'm not really sure what I expect to get out of Indy this weekend. I certainly will be shadowing the Redskins scouts (so make sure to follow our @hogshaven Twitter and I will be posting here regularly throughout the next 3 days).
The Quarterback position, for good reason, has been a hot debate among Redskins fans. I was on the Junkies yesterday morning arguing with Lurch, who was insistent that a team can't win without franchise QB (the last umpteen million Super Bowl winners validate that), and the Redskins need to draft one. As I rebutted, Redskins have too many holes to draft a guy that will ride the pine his first year, and it would be criminal not to use that 1st pick on a guy that has a higher chance of succeeding. The 2007 draft to this day has ZERO starting QBs in the first 2 rounds (Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, John Beck, and Drew Stanton). Kolb has sat for FOUR years by the way. Drafts come and go with no stud QBs, and this one appears no different.
So, what's my point? Well, a lot is to be said for QBs that do not throw at the combine.
Is throwing (as of now): Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, Ryan Mallett, Cam Newton, Chris Ponder, Jake Locker and Ricky Stanzi
Not throwing: Blaine Gabbert
The only thing you're doing by not throwing is hiding something. Matt Bowen explains:
Show the NFL that you can perform and produce results under the most stressful of situations-because that is exactly what is expected of you on Sundays in the league. Don't hide. Instead, show up ready to run, throw, jump, etc. If I am a coach or a GM, that is what I want to see.
There are scouts, coaches, GMs and owners from every single NFL team in Indianapolis and they are all there to watch you... As a player, you want your name in the notebooks of the top brass of the NFL. Will a Bill Belichick or a Mike Tomlin come to your pro day? Maybe, but they are guaranteed to be in Indy.
Then of course there is the simple reason for increasing your pay day.
Last year Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen chose not to throw, but they were still hampered by shoulder and toe injuries. Let's go back to that 2007 draft. Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn did not work out by choice. Dan Lefevour, who entered the combine with questionable arm strength last year, skipped the throwing drills and his value plummeted.
Like Tebow, Blaine Gabbert is working with a special throwing coach to fix any bad habits. QBs like this are not guys I want in the first round when we desperately need a NT and OLB. Instead, Gabbert will throw at his Pro Day with WRs he feels comfortable with and no pass rush. Sounds intense. I'm raising the red flag on Gabbert for that reason.
Matt Ryan, Sanchez, and Jay Cutler are all QBs who sky-rocketed on draft boards after good combine showings, and in relation to what Matt Bowen was getting at, they've shown they can handle the pressure.
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Does Mallett get to snort some crack before he throws...
He’s probably going to throw it through that huge window at Lucas Oil.
What if he sits next to Newton during the wonderlic?
If Newton cheats off of him they’re both going to tie Vince Young with a 6.
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
To me Cam Newton has Jamarcus Russell written all over him.
I would take a chance with Colin K. out of Nevada. He is tall and every year he played he got more accurate with his passes. He can run too.
The UFC is a place where they will pay you tens of thousands of dollars for you to fight but only 1 dollar for your soul.
by communication-breakdown on Feb 24, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions
To me Blaine Gabbert has Uncle Rico written all over him.
by SSBlitz on Feb 24, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
To me, Kevin Ewoldt has Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds written all over him.
by Ken Meringolo on Feb 24, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
That's insulting to Uncle Rico.
Rico could actually throw a football over a mountain, Flabbert has a mountain of a belly.
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
Id like to see some obedience drills
Jump through the hoop, get a treat!
"DOWN GOES RODGERS!" -Brian Orakpo
by ThaRak on Feb 24, 2011 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe the Redskins should just tank next year so they will be guaranteed Andrew Luck in next years draft?
The UFC is a place where they will pay you tens of thousands of dollars for you to fight but only 1 dollar for your soul.
by communication-breakdown on Feb 24, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions
Wouldn't work.
We would find a way to screw it up and win three games, to be in the fourth spot.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
by BillWard on Feb 24, 2011 8:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The way Cam Newton is going, he's going to...
drop out of the 1st round. First the NBA All-Star game and Charles Barkley ticket scandal, then the comments, now the entourage; he is not being advised well, in my opinion. I believe he might blow his interview. He better light it up with his throwing and drill work. Teams may not need to look for red flags, he seems to be waving them proudly.
Actually (minus the comments on Tuesday) he's done everything right.
1. Won the 2009 NJCAA National Football Championshipchamp at Blinn college
2. Won the 2010 NCAA Nat’l Champ
3. Won the Heisman
4. Had pro day before the combine that drew rave reviews
5. Is throwing at the combine.
6. Will have another pro day.
I still wouldn’t draft him but he’ll be a top 5 pick.
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
I agree with that.
He had a top 5 in the bag, in my opinion. All this extra stuff is not serving him well, and probably will turn off a team or 3. Yes, if he has a solid interview with a knockout throwing session, he solidifies his top Qb status. But, these unnecessary attention grabbers raise questions. If he comes off negatively during his interviews, it won’t matter how great he throws, or what type of athlete he is, many teams will take a pass. It is too much of a team sport. My opinion only.
You're preaching to the choir.
I’ve pound on him every chance I get, but of the 1st RD QBs, he’s the guy based off of potential.
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
I disagree
If the Redskins insist on a qb this year, Locker’s the way to go.
by TheDeepBall on Feb 24, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I like Locker.
I played QB and baseball in college. It was always difficult for me to get my footwork straight when it came to playing QB. I can see how that might be why Lockers is a bit inaccurate…He’s my favorite QB but is too much of a reach at 10. He could be the steal of the draft in 3-4 YRs when he goes in the mid 20’s.
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
In my opinion...
This is not the year to draft a quarterback. Way too many questions with this whole class, and way too many other holes to fill to justify a Qb pick this year. Pass on all QBs, and fill holes first. Build the team, then draft the Quarterback next year. A strong team will make a good quarterback much better, perhaps franchiseable.
I've got a better idea
I say we trade down out of the first round for two more second-round picks, then draft three pet rocks. Just like three years ago.

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