Video of Kyle Shanahan Demonstrating QB Footwork

by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 4:48 PM EST in Redskins News

Former Ravens' coach Brian Billick recently visited fellow offensive mastermind Kyle Shanahan to learn about quarterback footwork. Rex Grossman and John Beck were not present, but its been confirmed that John Beck has watched this video 783 times on YouTube and now believes he deserves another shot at the starting job. Others in attendance included Ken Meringolo in a trench coach and Mike Shanahan in the distant background yelling, "KYLE! YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!". There was also a small remote control helicopter that flew over the facility with a glittery "Twilight" sticker on it.

Two things are clear to me... 1) Kyle is the next Tom Emanski (maybe Rex could be the next Fred McGriff)... 2) Our quarterbacks don't listen to Kyle. I can only hope Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, or Ryan Tannehill catch on to this video. It would really be beneficial to bring in a quarterback that could hit the ground running.

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There was also a small remote control helicopter that flew over the facility with a glittery "Twilight" sticker on it.

Now that was pretty funny.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions

Hater-1 clear for take off

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions

That's exactly what it looks like.

But it’s already broken, it got in the way of a Rex Grossman pass.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions

That's what happened to Kevin's remote control car when McNabb was here

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions

Our quarterbacks don’t listen to Kyle.

I assume you mean McNabb? Sadly, I think our QBs do listen to McNabb they just simply can’t make good reads/decisions. You can’t teach that part.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 27, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions

Just trying to get to 150, haha,

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions

You dont have to go 150. Not even sure why SBN put that there but they even said posts can be a few words.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 27, 2011 5:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Great now iH8 is going to be posting his great one liners

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions

Well, Fan Posts force you to enter 75 words, but for us Editors folks, nothing is enforced…since our grammar is so great.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 27, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions

make since yo

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions

Is that link a virus?

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions

Just for you, but for everyone else its a video with Kyle Shanahan and Brian Billick.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions

i would say i win. but kyle has been doing well lately so i wanna give him public props

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions

wish Brian Billick was our coach

isnstead of shanahan.

by munson21502 on Dec 27, 2011 5:28 PM EST reply actions

cant tell if serious

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Dec 27, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I hope he's not. Orakpo would've probably killed him by now since he can't get his name right.

“Orapko with another tackle”

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions

Well if Orakpo tried..

It would only take one guy to block him.. LT, RT or a TE would do the job.

@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.

by Diesel44 on Dec 27, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I think Orapko

would bull rush Billick but over pursue him by 5 yards and run himself out of the play

by Elaw6 on Dec 27, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Remember when Orakpo was pissed that he was named one of the Top 10 pass rushers?

Well this year, he’s not in the Top 20.

@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.

by Diesel44 on Dec 27, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, there is a lot of Kool-Aid involved with Redskins fans when it comes to Orakpo

Elaw6 just described 80% of his game… the other 20% is not pursuing at all. Honestly, he sometimes stands around looking at play like he is on the sideline

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Dec 28, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions

thanks for that

Just upchucked in my mouth

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Dec 28, 2011 3:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

I don't know much about QB footwork fundamentals on that level.

It seemed like everything he said made sense. Am I missing something?

by tuckwell on Dec 27, 2011 5:38 PM EST reply actions

several poor attempts at humor

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions

sry had an ice pac on my eye

guess I say thank you.

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by Sam Beckett on Dec 27, 2011 6:52 PM EST reply actions

unbelievable

london fletcher didn’t make the pro bowl…leads the league in tackles

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
*Socrates*

by atark001 on Dec 27, 2011 7:16 PM EST reply actions

fellow offensive mastermind?

“trench coach”?

“Our quarterbacks don’t listen to Kyle.”: Would you listen to a grotesquely obese person give you tips on weight loss and dieting?

by Elaw6 on Dec 27, 2011 7:49 PM EST reply actions

I was just thinking about something...

Why is it that people say if we draft a QB in the first and “get it wrong” our team is screwed for a decade?

By that same logic shouldn’t we still be getting screwed by Laron Landry? Did Carlos Rogers cripple the franchise? Why is it only a QB that will mess up the team if we get it wrong?

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions

it doesnt and it wont. the salaries are lower and the contracts arent even that long anymore. that is why you can throw that silly draft trade value matrix some people parade around as gospel right in the trash can.

at worse you have an overpaid back up qb for two years

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions

You know people adjust the value chart in response to the new CBA?

The draft value chart has nothing to do with the perceived value of a player after they are drafted and whether or not they cripple a franchise, it’s simply a tool that NFL front offices use to assign a value to a pick and find a comparable value to trade. Many criticized the Falcons for what they gave the Browns, but with new “post-CBA” charts the Falcons were within 100 points of Jones’ perceived value.

In response to iH8, you don’t think those picks crippled us? Look at the players we could of had (Ware, AD, etc), of course hindsight is 20/20 but missing in the draft for years and years has crippled this franchise. Drafting Rogers, Campbell, McIntosh, Landry, Thomas, Davis, Kelly certainly set this franchise back. Not to mention the lack of picks in ’05 and ’06.

The Lions are a great example they struck out in the draft for years. They finally hit with Stafford. Where would the Lions be if Stafford was a total bust? or where would they be if they would have gone with Sanchez? I’d guess they’d be heading for the 11th straight losing season and Schwartz will be on the way out.

What you and the French bomber are saying makes sense, in theory, for a stable franchise but not here. Seriously you don’t think it will further cripple the franchise? What happens if Shanny drafts a bust? The team will lose, again, and Shanny will be sent packing, and in turn starting the 7th version of the vicious Snyder coaching cycle. Do you really want that?

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions

Yes, the lack of picks hurt.

But it’s not that all of those picks were bad or crippling. The coaching changes every year are what really messed up JC17 and pissed off Carlos Rogers.

My point was we could pick a LB, CB, Guard etc with our pick that may or may not be an elite talent. But if we pick a QB and they aren’t Aaron Rodgers then we’ve ruined the franchise forever.

I don’t get it.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Who is saying it has to be Aaron Rodgers?

The pool for every other position in the league is obviously a lot larger than that of QB (except P,K). No one is saying we’re screwed if we don’t get the next Aaron Rodgers. I think what people are saying is that the franchise is screwed if we draft David Carr, Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, JP Losman, Alex Smith, Matt Leinart, Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, etc…

If we draft a QB they don’t have to be an elite QB, but they do have to be good. Aaron Rodgers would be great but we need our Andy Dalton or Joe Flacco to avoid another round of the vicious cycle.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions

Well, the last QB Shanny took in the 1st round was Jay Cutler.

He’s not too bad, so I trust his judgement.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 10:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I think the vast majority of us would be content with picking up a QB of Cutler's caliber

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions

agreed

but who do you think that is and how do we get him.

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions

Content?

I’d pull my pants down, chug a bottle of MD 20/20 and smack my butt cheeks like I was playing the bongos.

It’s safe to say I’d be content. I was hoping we could have nabbed him the last time.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 10:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

the last QB shanny took was Beck. Before that it was Grossman. Before that it was McNabb.

He also felt there was nothing in the last two drafts worth going after (1st and 2d round picks):
bradford-1
tebow- 25
clausen- 48
newton- 1
locker- 8
gabbert- 10
ponder- 12
dalton- 35
kaepernick- 36

of those, clausen and gabbert might be busts. tebow was never a fit for us but he has played well and who knows where he takes things, and kaepernick has not played yet so no opinion

bradford, newton, locker, ponder and dalton are all just as good a prospect as cutler. and of the seven possible choices he passed on, five have turned out to be promising so far.

i dont think that track record gives him the benefit of the doubt at all

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions

That argument makes no sense.

We had no shot at Bradford, Newton, Locker or Ponder.

I think he would have drafted Locker, but he was gone.

You could also look at it as he avoided Clausen and Gabbert.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 10:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

+1

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions

Although, we did have a shot at Ponder.

I think Shanny wanted Ponder and thought he would still be there when he traded back.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions

I watch a lot of ACC football and Ponder never impressed me.

I’m glad we didn’t take him. I still have a man crush on RG3, but the more I read about Tannehill the more I’m intrigued.

But what do I know? Shanny has more football knowledge in his pinky toe than I ever will.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 27, 2011 11:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I know but tannehill has two years experience at QB

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions

Ponder's going to end up the second best QB out of that class

and he’ll be winning in MN for a long time.

by tuckwell on Dec 28, 2011 4:41 AM EST up reply actions

we gave up multiple high picks taking a flyer on low probability, i have never been accurate mcnabb. so dont tell me they wont pull the trigger

bradford and newton would have been expensive. the others would not have been. in fact, one more trade back would have put us in good position to grab dalton late in the first round and given us more picks. and he was highly rated, highly accurate, and a proven winner. it is not hard to project success for him

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions

So he has a bad track record b/c he didn't draft Gabbert, Ponder, Dalton, Kaepernick, Tebow, and Clausen?

Obtaining the others would of given up a slew of valuable resources which will benefit this team in the long run.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions

nice spin parks ;)

consider this
2009 final records (2011 wins with a game to go and improvement)
CLE 5-11 (4)
OAK 5-11 (8)
KC 4-12 (6)
WAS 4-12 (5)
DET 2-12 (10)
TB 3-13 (4)
STL 1-15 (2)

of the shitty teams in the league when they arrived- 4 have meaningfully improved their win total, 1 possibly regressed one game, and two improved one game

the redskins are one of the two teams that improved one game after two full drafts, free agencies, and seasons

NO…i think it is pretty obvious that they are average to under perfoming at best. I dont think it gets any clearer than this. we are 5-10 and expected to lose next week handsomely. I dont think on any level can you claim they have done a good job. at best, there are promising signs that they might turn it around some unknown date in the future if allowed to coach that long

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions

interestingly, 3 of the 7 teams were fighting for a playoff spot last weekend

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions

Parks- the draft matrix is a general guide for fair value in trading. that is all it is- something that gives a general idea what is fair for a general cookie cutter situation. it is not even position specific and we all know that each position has a different value. and we KNOW that is not the case since the highest paid player at each position spans a wide range (probably something like $2mm to $20mm)

For us, fans commenting on a website it is complete bunk. because that general guideline takes on a new value for each player in a trade scenario for each team. AND since none of us are privy to what that value is, we damn sure cant use something you know is wrong for our team as a guide.

To trade for Luck would cost a lot. who knows exactly how much- no one right now today for sure. maybe the team would consider some of our players. maybe they have a bad, expensive, underperforming contract they would love to unload to clear up cap space and make a run. But he has been considered the best QB prospect since peyton manning for two full college football seasons. so that makes him a pretty solid bet if one were to take a flyer. and if you were so inclined to make an offer, and he were available, i would not be upset. i hope it would not cost too much and not affect us more than three drafts. but we have a lot of cap room and yes, i would defiinitely have given up 9 top picks for 15 years of peyton manning. we are in a good position but our #7 slot is probably too low to move up

RG3 or Sam Bradford would have to be for a lot less.

I agree completely that our poor drafting record prior to Shanallen arriving crippled us. I believe they are doing a much better job than Cerrato. But when you look at what they have done objectively, they have shown a good ability to add depth players/basic starters. and they have had five top 40 picks including two in the top 10. …they might have four real starters among their picks. they dont have anyone one would consider pro bowl talents. so they dont have the track record that would concern me that we are giving up the farm…chances are half those picks wouldnt have worked out for us for one reason or another

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions

Talk to me in a week or two when Kerrigan goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 27, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions

I will…think that would be great. think orakpo relieves pressure for him and has the name recognition though. there is a reason webb ran his way every time.

if we pull out two kerrigans out of the draft every year…we will have a good team in 5 years if one of them happens to play QB

by les boulez bomber on Dec 27, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions