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Kellen Moore could be a good project late for the Redskins. Grooming a solid backup QB should be a priority of Mike Shanahan's.

Last night's Poinsettia Bowl turned out to be a lot closer then the experts expected. #18 TCU was able to pull off a close win 31-24 over Louisiana Tech, as the Horned Frogs now look forward to their first year in the Big XII. The bowl season continues tonight as #8 Boise State (11-1) plays in the BCS Bend You Over Las Vegas Bowl against Arizona State (6-6) at 8PM on ESPN. On paper this looks like a blowout, especially given the Sun Devils' coaching change, but Arizona State has played in some big games and I think this will be closer than advertised for much of the way. One thing is for sure, there will be a lot points on the board and this game features some serious pro prospects.

Boise State Prospects:

Kellen Moore, QB, 5'11, 195lbs: Moore has a chance tonight to become the first quarterback in NCAA DI history to win 50 games (he's only lost 3). He has tremendous route anticipation, as well as pocket presence. But despite his record at Boise State Moore's draft stock has tanked over the past year, going from a mid-round prospect all the way to the 7th round. Wes Bunting outlines some of Moore's downfalls:

Despite his "plus" accuracy even when falling off throws, he’s simply not a guy who is going to force a defense to cover the entire field at the next level because of his limited arm strength. Furthermore, because of his limited size when there is a push in the pocket right into his face, he doesn’t have the stature to routinely find a throwing lane in order to deliver the football without drifting away from pressure. Therefore, too often he’s forced to fall off throws, negating his arm strength even more and giving defenders a better chance to make a play on the football.

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Despite Moore's drawbacks I'd still take him on a flyer in the 7th round, if we're grooming a starting QB it would also be nice to groom a back up. Bunting draws a comparison between Moore and former Eagle backup Koy Detmer.

Nate Potter, OT, 6'5, 295lbs: If you've been paying attention to Redskins mock drafts then you've probably seen the name Nate Potter pop up a couple of times in the 2nd round or 3rd round. The hard working, high motor tackle impresses many scouts because of his pure size (many compare him to the Patriots' Nate Solder). Though Potter may be a good project in the 3rd round, I see a prospect that is very raw and may drop when the evaluation season begins. Despite excelling in the WAC and Mountain West, Potter is still a limited athlete and will have to improve his strength to succeed in the NFL.

Billy Winn, 6'3, 300lbs: Steve outlined the Broncos Billy Wynn early in Week 1 of the college season:

Winn stands at 6’3 and weighs 295 lbs. He would likely be considered as a defensive end for the Redskins during the scouting process. Winn is big and strong, but he is mostly praised for being a leader in the locker room and the heart and soul of the Broncos defense. He will likely go in the second round of the draft but could move up the boards to the first round with a good senior season.

Unfortunately Winn hasn't had as big of a season as expected, but still garnered 2nd team MWC honors and is still and intriguing prospect. To solidify his draft stock in the 2nd round, the Las Vegas native should have a big game in his hometown tonight.

Arizona State Prospects:

Vontaze Burfict, ILB, 6'3, 252lbs: I've been outspoken in my affection for 1st round prospect Vontaze Burfict, mainly because he may literally rip someones head off in the NFL. But despite my man-crush Burfict has been one of the most disappointing pro prospects this year, as Tony Pauline points out:

Possibly no player has dropped down draft boards faster this season than Burfict. He entered the campaign ranked as a potential top five pick, but his immaturity has cost him at least half a round, if not more. He's been consistently flagged for unsportsmanlike penalties, and it has cost his team dearly. Scouts say Burfict shows little in the way of controlling his temper, which has NFL decision-makers concerned.

Burfict needs to show he can be a leader and can play smart, and he can start doing that tonight in a big game for the Sun Devils.

2012 Prospects:

Keep an eye on Arizona State's Omar Bolden (CB) and quarterback Brock Osweiler. Both will be highly touted prospects next year. Osweiler is particularly interesting because he stands at 6'8 and turned down a basketball scholarship at Gonzage.

Prediction: Boise State 33, Arizona State 19

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Really good point, he's a really intriguing prospect around the 4th round.

Thank you for pointing him out. I watched his tape against San Diego State a couple of weeks ago. The dude is long and really fluid. I’d be more than happy to take him with one of our fourth round picks. I do worry a little about his tackling ability in the NFL though.

If anyone wants to check him out here is the tape vs. SDSU: http://draftbreakdown.com/george-iloka-vs-san-diego-state-2011

Thanks jfield, Iloka slipped my mind.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

might be worth a look.

depending on Landry and Osi’s status after this year

by jfield1111 on Dec 22, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

These posts are great!

Very helpful and makes watching these games more interesting. You do a great job of keeping up with all the college games.

HTTR!

by mkjo on Dec 22, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks man, hope it helps people out a little when watching some football during the holidays.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

This has nothing to do with this game, but...

The corner from NC State that had like 11-12 picks this year. What do you guys think of him?

I watched him in like three or four games and I thought he was awesome.

I see it as more cushion for the pushin'

by iH8dallas on Dec 22, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Amerson isn't eligible yet, he'll likely be a 1st rounder in a year or two now.

I saw him in person when they play Liberty and he got abused at times. He did progress throughout the season though. Interceptions aren’t a true gauge of CB.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

wow a 6'8" quarterback, that's crazy

i’m just curious to see what a 6’8" QB looks like taking a snap from under center…for some reason i imagine him looking very uncomfortable ha

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by atark001 on Dec 22, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Quarterback

Like your thinking on the idea of picking 2 QBs this year, a starter and back-up to groom. Think this will be very important to ensure consistent performance over many years in the soon to come decade of dominance by the Redskins…

by dr WNC on Dec 22, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

Yea I'd be happy with Moore, Chandler Harnish, or Patrick Witt.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we had some success with that some time back. We picked up a #1 and #7, IIRC

We picked up Heath Shuler and Gus Ferrotte.

No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-

by BillWard on Dec 22, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Another great write up Parks

One thing I’d say is don’t be surprised if Brock Osweiler comes out. If he has a strong Bowl game, he could look at his situation with a brand new head coach that he doesn’t know, and losing his top 3 receivers (and top offensive lineman), and figure that he might be better served to get out now, rather than risk a rebuilding year.

Also Bolden is a senior and while injured i haven’t heard if he’s getting a medical redshirt.

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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

For some reason I keep thinking Oswieler is a sophomore.

Yea I’m just assuming Bolden gets a RS

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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

it's def. a risk with only one starting season, but it was a really good year

if Landry Jones decides to go back Osweiler could figure he can at least be a 2nd rounder. Bolden might not even take the medical redshirt. I’ve heard that he’s been very outspoken about the firing of Erickson, so he might figure a 6th round pick is worth it.

Also i’m surprised you didn’t profile Aaron Pflugrad, for no other reason than an excuse to post his sister’s picture.

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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Saving that for the Oregon preview. Instead I give you Toby Gerhart's brother Garth

Merry Christmas from the Gerharts:

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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

haha checkmate

though I’m guessing his sister will be in attendance tonight so it is further reason to watch. Also Garth Gerhart wouldn’t be a bad late round pick for the Skins, he’s a pretty solid center.

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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually pretty good with the idea of getting Kellen Moore as a Backup QB prospect

Regardless of how you interpret my Shuler/Ferrotte comment.

I mean, the backup that year was the starter for a while. If our hypotthetical rookie #1 has a problem in year two or three, the backup may be good enough then to give servicable work for a while.

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by BillWard on Dec 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

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