Round Table: Setting Expectations for Jarvis Jenkins in 2012
Welcome to the first of what I hope is a series of posts by the writers here at Hogs Haven. Bear in mind this is only a rough idea of how we want this post to work and we are open to suggestions on how to improve or add to it should you guys enjoy it. The concept behind it is to basically look at a player (probably will just be rookies for the time being), grade him on certain aspects of his position and then all of us will say our piece on him. So without further delay, lets kick things off with Jarvis Jenkins.
Parks: Jarvis Jenkins looked to be a promising rookie for the Redskins defensive line rotation this preseason. Jenkins performed admirably picking up the starts in the Colts and the Ravens game before tearing his ACL. One thing that had Redskins' fans salivating was Jenkins apparent versatility to potentially play both the three and five technique. That versatility was never really displayed during the preseason, but was thought to be in Haslett's long-term arsenal. Jenkins' legend has kind of grown over the course of the season, he certainly had a solid preseason but it seems as if some fans are expecting him to be a plug and play pro bowler next year. It's important to remember that Jenkins is still in the infancy of his career and he will likely have growing pains as we get into 2012. With that being said, it will still be great to see Jarvis on the field.
2012 Stats/Expectations: 11 tackles, 2 sack, and a forced fumble for me. Very similar to the type of year Cameron Heyward is having in Pittsburgh.
Ken: If and when this man fully recovers from his injuries, the Redskins will have something we haven't had in a long time - an overweight guy named JJ in the middle of the defensive line. If you were a running back, would you want to run up the middle where a fat guy named JJ was chilling? I don't think so. It is a fun name to chant after a sack and it is a great name to wax poetic about in the parking lot before games over a keg of beer. 'Let me tell you something about JJ...JJ does not give a f#@k. He would run over his own momma to get to the quarterback. JJ balls...(sips beer)...JJ Balls.
2012 Stats/Expectations: 15 tackles for loss, 4 sacks.
Steveo: Jarvis Jenkins was a surprise pick to many, as he was overshadowed while at Clemson. While not the penetrator normally associated with defensive tackles, he is the type of player who fits perfectly in the 3-4. Jenkins has no problem taking on two blockers, and opening up chances for his teammates. He's versatile enough to play basically anywhere along the defensive line, and has all the tools to be a very good player. Jenkins has a quick first step, which causes initial push, he also has a good anchor which keeps him from being pushed back. Jenkins was the star among rookies during training camp and preseason, and could have a very bright future ahead of him. His ACL injury will likely force the Redskins to limit his work next season, but he should still have ample opportunity to make up for lost time.
2012 Stats/Expectations: 16 games, 10 starts, 35 tackles, 18 tackles for a loss and 4.5 sacks
UkRedskin: Jenkins was a slightly surprising pick in the second round (41st overall) but reports throughout training camp were very positive. In preseason Jenkins put in some very promising performances before he went down with a season-ending knee injury that landed him on IR. He flashed the ability to penetrate an offensive line in the run game and get pressure up the middle on passing downs. He does need to be weary of his gap responsibility, there were a few times I noticed he'd just burst through the offensive line but left a big hole behind him for the runner to run into. It's thought Jenkins could rotate time between nose tackle and defensive end and looks to be a very valuable asset going into the 2012 season providing he can overcome his knee injury.
2012 Stats/Expectations: Not really a stats guy. But I expect him to push Carriker (very underrated) and Bowen hard for the starting spot by mid-season. His play will reflect in sacks for Orakpo/Kerrigan.
Tiller: I was disappointed when we used our 2nd round pick on a "tweener" defensive linemen. I was hoping for a true nose tackle later in the draft, and although I heard Jenkins had the versatility to play either DE or NT, I was not sold. I will say this; I had to do my homework on the guy after the draft, because I knew very little about him, but what I found out surprised me. I saw a very powerful, yet quick-footed defensive linemen, who ate up double teams, and was versatile enough to even line up at defensive end in Clemson's 4-3. I saw a kid who used his hands to shed blocks, and I saw a motor that never seemed to stop running.
These attributes seemed to transulate very well to our defensive scheme in training camp and the preseason, before injury took his rookie year away. Reports from camp had him abusing our offensive linemen on a daily basis(not that that's hard to do), and not many could have expected this out of a rookie.I expect big things from Jenkins in 2012, as long as he comes back healthy, and regains his old form. I love the fact Hasslett can use him at nose tackle in the 0 technique or kick him out to a 5 technique defensive end, and I think it's this varsality, combined with and outstanding work ethic, and all the physical tools a coach could look for, that will set him up for future success with our organization.2012 Stats/Expectations: Spot starter/rotational player early, full-time starter by midway point of season. 15 games played, 7 starts. 40 tackles, 4 sacks.
Kevin: I don't know what to make of Jarvis Jenkins. It's clear the kid can play at this level, but ACL injuries have ruined NFL defensive lineman's careers in the past. The Eagles' first round pick in 2010, DE Brandon Graham, tore his ACL Dec.12th, 2010, and has never been the same. He has suited for three games this year but really saw no action. Andy Reid is thinking about shutting him down for the year. In 2009, Jets NT Kris Jenkins tore his ACL week 6, and after coming back in 2010, he tore his ACL again after only 6 plays. Kris Jenkins is arguably a bit different being 30+ years old. Titans first round pick in 2010, DE Derrick Morgan, tore his ACL his rookie year, Morgan has played in every game this season (except for week 1), but didn't start until week 8 and his numbers are very underwhelming (27 tackles, 3.5 sacks). It's definitely a bonus that Jarvis has the maximum amount of time to heal, but I don't think we should be inking him in our starting lineup any time soon.2012 Stats/Expectations: 16 games, 30 tackles, 3 sacks. (Key stat for me is getting through the year healthy)
Run Support Grade: TBD (To Be Determined)
Pass Rush Grade: TBD
Overall Grade: TBD but promising potential
Thanks to Ken, Kevin, Parks, Steveo and Tiller for their input.
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but I don’t think we should be inking him in our starting lineup any time soon.
This is the most important line in the entire piece. I think Jarvis should be a beast but lets remember the guy has never played in a regular season game and right now has as many career tackles as i do. Any plans for FA or the draft which assume Jenkins will be an every down(or majority of downs) player are ridiculous.
Troy Aikman is the greatest announcer of all time.
On a side note it looks like Barkley is not coming out
Unless he is holding a press conference to announce he is leaving which seems a little narcissistic.
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by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I Agree
All assumptions during the season were that he was coming out. In the past couple weeks, rumors swirled that he was thinking of staying. If you were sticking with the original plan, wouldn’t you just declare for the draft like every other player does?
A press conference seems to denote a change in plan.
by StephanHart on Dec 22, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, if you are coming out you just higher and agent or declare for the draft
A press conference to say you are going to be in the draft when you might be the 3rd QB taken is borderline crazy.
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by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
higher=hire
Troy Aikman is the greatest announcer of all time.
by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
yes he is
because he’s at USC and is narcissistic. His press conference is scheduled at the same place Regiie Bush and Matt Leinert held their press conferences announcing they were going pro. (plus, his stud LT already announced last week)….
"We're not here to try; we're here to win" - Brooks Laich
Leinart's press conference must have pretty anti-climatic considering he was a senior.
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by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Leinart had his PC in the same place to announce he was staying.
I don’t see how a press conference can be looked at as narcissistic. It’s letting a heralded potential draft pick reach out to multiple reporters at one time. Barkley will obviously have a lot more media hype then Matt Kalil. If he’s staying then the presser serves the athletic department better, all individual interviews of a student-athlete have to be approved by the SID and in a predetermined facility.
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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
The press conference to say you are staying i don't think is narcissistic
That is actually a good thing. Like you said it gets the news out and the students i’m sure will love it. However, to say you are coming out when you have no chance of being the top pick seems weird to me. Its not like reporters wouldn’t find out between now and april if you just released a statement.
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by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I think he meant Sanchez
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
They always do it at USC dude, see: Sanchez/Bush
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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Bush was a huge star dude and i forgot about Sanchez
But he did hold a press conference where Pete Carroll was all pissed off looking. I remember now.
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by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Mikel LeShoure had a press conference last year to declare, it's not a big deal or a reflection at all on the athlete.
So did Taiwan Jones, Jacquizz Rodgers, and countless others. It shouldn’t be presented as narcissistic.
Look at the LaMichael James situation (or Kalil last week). Rumor: James declares for draft. Result: James and Oregon SIDs get bombarded by the media. Further result: LaMichael James press conference scheduled for January 3.
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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
That ego maniacal a-hole! He even cried at the Heisman ceremony! What a narcissist...
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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
+1
It’s very important that the Redskins go in with low expectations for JJ for the future. They should not plan on him being a major contributor….if he turns into one, all the better
by StephanHart on Dec 22, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
agree with kevin
very hard to say how he will react coming back from an ACL tear, but from what i’ve heard out of interviews from haslett and shanahan he seems to be working his tail off and sitting in meeting rooms soaking up knowledge….if anything his work ethic makes me optimistic about his return though
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
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im still pissed
that he tore his acl on a ravens fake punt in preseason. i blame them for this.
I remember reading Keim's training camp analysis.
Every report pretty much said, “Oh yeah, Jenkins can’t be blocked.”
I expect a lot.
26 tackles (5 for loss) 3 sacks 2 FF and a punt return for a TD…J/K on the last part.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Jenkins can't be blocked also means our offensive linemen suck
I remember two(3?) training camps ago when we heard the exact same thing about the d-line. How they were blowing by the linemen and were unstoppable. Turns out we just had shitty offensive linemen.
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by Jeff Bernard on Dec 22, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
player development
wasn’t directly said in any roundtable brief but largely inferred. Look at all of the draft picks this past year – they were brought along at different speeds and saw playing time differently throughout the season (look at Neild, Helu, Royster, Hankerson, Thompson, etc, etc) only to produce the excitement we’re seeing now. i.e. these coaches seem to know how to handle and grow their players which directly leads to the high expectations for JJ next year.
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I have to agree with Stephan on this one...
allow him to develop and work into the lineup. If his talents show themselves, great. But remember, DL in 3-4 schemes are space eaters, allowing LBs to make the plays.
But Carriker, Bowen and Cofield have been making plays.
Cofield is one of our best pass defenders.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
its not that they don't make zero plays
but they aren’t the focus
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was very surprised to hear that an opposing coach said that Cofield is already the best NT in the league.
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It will be interesting to see how they handle Carriker in the offseason
If they don’t resign or replace him with a FA, then I think Jenkins will be a major contributor. I’d be OK with a rotation of Cofield, Bowen, Jenkins, Golston, and Nield.
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I really want Carriker back.He's been solid this year, doesn't get hurt.
Kind of guy you want on a team.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Great thanks to you he's going to have a career ending injury Saturday
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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
he also gets far less penetration than either Cofield or Bowen
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
haha which once again shows less value
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
He's got what, 4.5, 5.5 sacks this year?
The guy is solid, young and durable. He’s a keeper in my book, plus you want youngguys playing together for more than one year at a time.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
his sack numbers are abnormal considering he's never done that before
and his pressures and hits are pretty low. He’s a bad bet to get those kind of sack numbers again, and b/c of those numbers he’s probably gonna want ‘Bowen’ Money which he isn’t close to being worth.
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
im not sure bowen should have got what he got
by alwaysremember21 on Dec 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
well i'd say Bowen is at least twice as good as Carriker
and he got a solid deal. Remember it isn’t just about sacks (though Bowen has proved his worth there), Bowen generated a ton of pressure for the Cowboys line.
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did you hear haslett's interview yesterday
he was saying they were surprised how good of a pass rusher he was, they knew he was good against the run but thought they were going to have tweak his play and get rid of a lot of wasted movement in his rush technique…i personally think bowen is worth every penny, a complete end and a great locker room presence
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
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I was waiting for a terrible iH8 joke as soon as Steve hit "post"
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by Parks Smith on Dec 22, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
That joke was funny and you know it.
You’re just jealous you didn’t post it first.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
Carriker has 5 sacks.
Bowen has 6, Cofield has 2.5. I know sacks aren’t an accurate interpretation of penetration but He’s contributing pretty well. In a 3-4 scheme, as you know, it’s all about gap responsibility and eating blocks for Dlineman and Carriker has been very underrated at doing so. Part of why Kerrigan has been so good is because he has Carriker on his side.
yes but he's not getting pressures or hits
his tackle numbers are down, and he’s just not occupying blockers like he should. Right now he looks to be a good back-up, but he’s gonna want starter money, and the Redskins can fairly easily do better on the open market.
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
But open market means getting rid of a good guy on our line and possibly ruining good chemistry.
These guys are playing well together so why mess up a good thing?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
if hes at the right price we should keep him in a reserve role
by alwaysremember21 on Dec 22, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
no he's really not
he might start for one or two other 3-4 teams in the league, and that is a big if
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He shouldnt start over Jenkins and i think we may add a bigger NT and move Cofield to end at some point down the road
by alwaysremember21 on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
hes the best NT on the team right now but hes undersized and takes a lot of punishment at that position
by alwaysremember21 on Dec 22, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, NT is a rotational position now
I love Cofield, but would love to see him, JJ and Neild share the punishment and allow BC and JJ to see some time at DE.
Carriker (resigned at a reasonable price), the excellent Bowen and the guys mentioned above make for an excellent D-Line rotation, with Golston or a FA, or another developmental draft pick for the future.
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by Stephen Beagrie on Dec 23, 2011 6:05 AM EST up reply actions
chemistry is overrated and he's not playing on the same level as the other two
the Redskins should look to grow to have an elite defense, not be happy in the middle of the pack (and yes that is where we will be without upgrades).
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Without upgrades?!?
The ability to have 1 year plus in a system to improve the system will has as much of an impact as adding a few upgrades. The defensive front 7 needs to continue to add depth and draft type players, and IMO will become an elite squad.
we played a weak schedule this year, next year that won't be the case
this same defense will be in the late teens against next year’s lineup.
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The last place schedule only determines two games
The Giants and us only played two games different than one another, next year instead of the AFC East and NFC WEST, we have the AFC North and NFC South, that is a huge difference.
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No, it only pertains to NFC West and North
We play NFC South and AFC North regardless of record
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You mean the defense that is rated better than ours despite being coached by an offensive line coach?
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You mean the defense leading the league in sacks?
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huh??
how is that a bad thing
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not a bad thing.
But I like the fact that the Redskins sack numbers are pretty evenly spread.It shows me that pressure is coming from all over, not just one guy with a lame tribal tattoo.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
So you'd be upset with...
Player A: 18 sacks
Player B: 9 sacks
Player C: 6 sacks
Player D: 3 sacks
Player E: 3 sacks
Player F: 2 sacks
and then 7 sacks from elsewhere?
The Eagles reference was just wrong. Playcalling and weak LBs was their downfall early, not defensive cohesion.
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Perhaps my example was "off"...
all I’m saying is that I like Carriker, he’s produced this year, he’s young and I like the idea of paying our guy, rather than risking some FA looking for that huge Redskins contract.
That sentence felt long, but whatever.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
so you'd rather pay a guy, b/c he had one decent (not good, not great)
year here, rather than paying a guy who’s had multiple good years elsewhere?
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Yes.
Who was Stephen Bowen before he came to Washington?
A nobody for Dallas, but he looks damn good now.
I know this is crazy, but I like the idea of holding on to our own FAs when they are durable and play well.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
that's my point
Bowen according to his ‘sack numbers’ wasn’t well known, but if you watched the Cowboys, or looked beyond the sack numbers you’d see that he was highly productive. He got a ton of pressures and QB hits, and was a force along the line.
Carriker does none of those things on nearly the same level as Bowen.
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He doesn't have to.
They compliment each other well and I’d rather see a guy come back because he likes this team and produces.
I’m sick of seeing (insert name) coming on a five-year contract because of a good season in (insert a team not named Redskins) and then sucking.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
What kind of compliments do they give each other.
“You look nice today Adam”
“You too Stephen”
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They say something like,
“Nice sack Adam.”
“Thanks, but I didn’t get to the QB today.”
“Not what I’m talking about.”
Then things get weird.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
How does Carriker being average complement anyone?
Isn’t it just as bad to bring a guy back who isn’t as good as we all think he is. I.e. Deangelo Hall, Casey Rabach, etc.
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plus Cole and Patterson's injuries
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boom
It shows me that pressure is coming from all over, not just one guy with a lame tribal tattoo.
fuck tribal tattoos…
Sorry rabach, shit’s lame
Babin has a tribal tattoo b/c he's actually part of the tribe.
I mean his son’s name is Talon.
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Well Steve, when one player accounts for 35% of a team's sack total, and they lead the league
it’s automatically discounted.
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I think you may be related to Juan Castillo.
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maybe he is getting sacks
Because of pressure created by Orakpo, Kerrigan, Cofield, and Bowen. Seriously, please watch the games…
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Are you talking about Carricker?
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Chemistry is overrated????
Tell that to Walter White from Breaking Bad
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haha yeah or Sam Hurd oh wait bad example
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I agree with 90% of this
But I think you’re slightly underrating Carriker. If he asks for big money in FA though, I agree we should move on.
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by Stephen Beagrie on Dec 23, 2011 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
^^^ Steveo's original post.
Damn reply fail.
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by Stephen Beagrie on Dec 23, 2011 6:09 AM EST up reply actions
i think they need at least one better backup than Golston
Jenkins should probably be looking at 45-55% of the snaps (most good to great DL get 65-80%…though ususally less for 3-4 guys), so he’ll need a pretty good backup.
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
It's why we need to keep Carriker
as others noted above.
by SkinsOsTerps on Dec 22, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
i'd like to see someone better than Carriker
someone who could be an above average starter (which is not Carriker). Remember with Jenkins playing so few snaps, and Cofield and Bowen needing snaps off if you get a good primary backup he could easily get 50% of the snaps or more.
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
You won't find anyone better on the open market.
I want a team that is young, hungry and plays well together for the next 5 years. Carriker is part of a defense that looks to be great in the near future.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
not even close to true
there are plenty of better names out there
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Like who?
Are there many 3-4 ends in FA that have 5 sacks this year, that won’t be ridiculously expensive?
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
So if 3-4 DEs are going to be expensive due to their sack totals this year, then why wouldn't Carriker be expensive?
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I think he's saying
You’re not going to find someone with the knowledge of our system, combined with what he’s been doing lately for a better price in free agency which I agree with. I don’t think Carriker demands a fat contract and we sign him to fair deal for the both of us.
And Bruce Allen, from what I've seen in two years, is fair but frugal.
I see it as more cushion for the pushin'
oh so we are only looking at one year wonders?
and a guy being more expensive and worth it is a worse signing than overpaying for Carriker? Also you can’t use sacks as the only metric, as two of those are gift sacks when the offensive lineman forgot to block him.
Guys I’d take over Carriker:
Calais Campbell, Kendall Langford, Cory Redding, Amobi Okoye, Red Bryant and Jason Jones.
I’d also strongly consider Jamaal Anderson and a few others as well.
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Calais Campbell will want more money than Carriker
Redding will probably go back to the Raven’s and would only come here for one of his last paydays, Langford?, I would mind Okoye or Jason Jones at all but they’ll be way more expensive than Carriker, I like Carriker over Red too
Cambell will want more money, but the difference is he's well worth it
he’s one of the best 3-4 DE’s in the game, and would be a HUGE get for this defense. Ravens have a ton of free agents and can’t sign them all, so my guess is Redding is gone. Langford has been highly productive in Miami, who knows if he is in their plans with the new staff. And Red Bryant is far better than Carriker. He’s not much of a pass rusher (neither is Carriker), but he’s an excellent run stopper, and should be able to play some NT as well.
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if there are plenty of better names out there
then why would carriker demand such a huge contract like you’re suggesting he will do?
b/c people pay for things like sacks, and usually only look at the past year instead of the whole body of work
also Carriker was a former first rounder and that adds to the ‘hype’ factor.
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a former first rounder that was traded for a 6th
which negates the ‘hype’ factor.. I think Carriker know’s he’s in a good situation here and we will pay him what he deserves which is a modest contract.
Anything over $3-3.5 million a year is overpaying Carriker
and i’m guessing he looks for something in the $5 million range.
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by Steve Shoup on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he’ll be getting closer in the 2-3 range, I highly doubt he thinks he can get 5 mill out of us even with the guys beside him making that.
we'll see, but i just get the feeling that with these sacks this year he'll demand that
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look at josh wilsons deal
maybe Bruce gets him back for way less than current projections
by alwaysremember21 on Dec 22, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think Wilson got less years
but when i did an HH write up of Wilson i predicted he’d get between $5-5.5 million a year, and he ended up with $4.5 million a year, so there isn’t a huge difference there.
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all i can say is I disagree
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Carriker is a good fit
He knows the system and as Jenkins or another draftee is groomed with playing time Carriker’s snaps go down. Good performance and solid backup in the future when the younger guns take over.
Look at the Front 7, they are solid…start grooming the future starters through the draft but a young group overall except for a couple…
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To echo what has been said already
Jenkins had exactly 1 tackle in the preseason. He’s not credited with any others. It’ll be interesting to see if Kerrigan or ‘Po get better when he’s in.
It'll be more so noticed with Orakpo
Kerrigan should get much better next season with an offseason. Orakpo is still developing but I think he’s near his own potential (he could still become dominate though). But I really think if you put jenkins in front of Rak, Raks sacks will go way up and it’ll sure up the running game on that side. I really think Jenkins can be the butter to Raks bread.
Counting cards isn't illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane.
Projection-2 blocked kicks
including one against dallas to seal the victory for washington
by alwaysremember21 on Dec 22, 2011 12:29 PM EST reply actions
Nice article
I’m thinking more along the lines of Parks when it comes to expectations. Kevin at the end there just depressed the fuck out of me. But then he offered a little bit of hope which was nice.
So what I would add to this for the rooks:
Projected draft spot.
Actual draft spot.
Shows if the skins were considered to have “reached” and how the pick influences expectations among the fan base.
The Beat Box aka skins secondary.
Yeah surgeons these days make ACL's look so easy
And its a rare injury. Also recovery times are a lot shorter. But ACL AND MCL, thats a really tough recovery.
West Springfield Spartans OUTSIDE LB #47
HTTR
by SpartanFS47 on Dec 22, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone think Jenkins farted in that dude's face in the background?
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My question for Parks -
What does ‘Preformed’ mean? I have been seeing that word more and more lately, and I feel like I need to track down my grade school teacher and ask her how many words she skipped over in class.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
It's British for performed
I guess my spell check doesn’t catch it b/c it’s actually a word, haha…
If you want to know what transulate means then you’ll need to ask Tiller.
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I was going there next
Haha
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Please send your complaints to UK, he posted this, clearly he won't stop using British spell checker
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it means what it looks like
Something that has yet to be formed, it’s in the ‘pre’ stages to forming
Side question for the day: What the hell happened to Terrence Austin?
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He Harry Houdini'ed us
But really, I got my expectations for him up and then like you said where’d he go?
Exactly, awesome preseason, had some flashes first couple of weeks, and now its like he doesn't exist.
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He got
Darnerian’ed
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
by CJHutch on Dec 22, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha +1
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He got thrown in the dog house for special teams penalties maybe?
It seems like he stole Riley’s spot on special teams as “guy who gets good returns negated”.

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