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Cut Beck and Promote Jonathan Crompton from PS?

I believe that everyone is absolutely clear that John Beck is NOT an NFL caliber QB in any way shape or form. I think we would all agree too that we know what Rex is and isn't capable of. Arguments of winning out and rooting for loses aside, what do folks think about the idea of promoting Crompton from the practice squad for the final game or two (most likely just the last one) in order o see what the kid has with regards to real time NFL action? FACT: He can't possibly do any worse than Beck.

Partial Analysis from CBS Sports Draft Profile (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1125285)

Accuracy: Made significant improvements in this area as a senior, but remains highly inconsistent. Threw accurately to all levels at times as a senior, but struggled mightily with accuracy throughout his early career, including as a junior. Good timing and accuracy to hit the receiver in stride on the slant, dig and deep crossing routes. Good touch to place the ball between the linebacker and safety down the seam or on wheel routes. Good touch and accuracy for the dump-off routes to the back, allowing them to make the catch easily and head upfield.

Arm Strength: Strong arm. Can make every NFL throw without extending his windup. Puts enough zip on his underneath throws to fit through the tight winds of an NFL defense, including placing the deep out from the opposite hash. Good trajectory on the deep ball. Ball comes down at an angle that is easy to track and catch, but doesn't hang in the air. If he struggles in the NFL, it won't be due to a lack of arm strength.

Setup/Release: Efficient drop back from center and set up. Sells the play-action. Throws with good balance and steps into his passes. Compact windup and a quick release doesn't allow defenders much time to react. The ball comes out of his hand quickly and with good trajectory. Tight spirals that are easy for his receivers to track and catch.

Reading Defense: At least some of the improvement he showed as a senior came with limiting the number of reads he was asked to make. Has developed a great deal in terms of poise and reading defenses, but still locks on to his primary target early in the route. Rarely looks off the safety. Too often trusts his arm-strength and accuracy and throws the ball into coverage. Became more willing to throw the ball away as the year went on. Good poise in the pocket. Willing to step up in the pocket and take the hit to complete the throw.

On the Move: Among his most impressive traits. Good balance on the rollout. Keeps his eyes downfield and has the arm strength and accuracy to attack in the short and intermediate levels. Squares his shoulders and fires the ball with good trajectory and accuracy. Will occasionally throw back across his body, but has enough zip to fit balls in tight windows. Not a true threat as a scrambler, but can buy time and escape the pocket when necessary. Good size and strength for the quarterback sneak.

Intangibles (On/off field leadership, competitive fire, work habits, off-field issues, intelligence, ability to play through pain)

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Thoughts on cutting Beck and signing Crompton to the active roster?
Good Idea
61 votes
Bad Idea
25 votes
Would be okay cutting Beck and letting anyone else on the team play QB if Grossman gets injured!
30 votes

116 votes | Poll has closed

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It can’t hurt

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by Tiller56 on Dec 1, 2011 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

This is equivalent to...

Lane Kiffin making Sebastian Janikowski attempt a 76 yard FG…

shout out to my car keys

by superdupervillee on Dec 1, 2011 6:46 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Well....

At least there’s a chance, you would never let Gano attempt a 76 yard field goal.

Beck is only one rung above the water boy IMO. He’s got to know he’s dead man walking at this point. I would be painful to watch him NOT throw the ball in the pocket. I mean, who’s read goes deep, middle, dump off, take the sack, fumble it?

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by Copious 1 on Dec 1, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

We don't need anymore unnecessary press...

If Rex get injured then the obvious move would be to promote Crompton, but this town loves a QB controversy and we love young QBs that are on the bench. Shanahan would gain nothing from the move besides headaches. Crompton is also some garbage, but he was the “QB genius” pick just like how he chose McNabb, Beck, and Rex. Damn look at that…I don’t think i have much confidence in Shanahan picking the right QB in the draft next year.

shout out to my car keys

by superdupervillee on Dec 1, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

brilliant analogy

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by Redskin44 on Dec 1, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It appears they now realize that Beck is not the guy

Crompton could be. So definitely give him a shot once the season is obviously lost.

by Donnio1234 on Dec 1, 2011 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Lets just root for Rex to stay healthy.

This isn’t happening, so not much of discussion to be had.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 1, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Devlin?

It’s like people hype one guy so much in their head and can’t let it go in this site. He’s like the ghost of Colt Brennan.

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by Copious 1 on Dec 1, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And how many times have you seen Devlin play?

Thank you…

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by Parks Smith on Dec 2, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Devlin

Has he signed with a team or what is his deal

by DirtyBW on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

Devlin is on the Dolphins practice squad.

if he isn’t good enough to crack their 53….he must be pretty bad.

by timith on Dec 2, 2011 6:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Astute observation, if only it was right...

Devlin’s ability has absolutely nothing to do with his place on the team. Henne went down and the team went out and got a veteran in case he had to play (Rosenfels). Rosenfels was cut yesterday, Henne is healthy, and Devlin could be up as early as today.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 2, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It has nothing to do with beating out Sage.

If you’re a coach that is scrapping to save his job and you’re in a pinch when your 2nd starting QB goes down who are you going to send out there? A veteran? or a UDFA? Devlin is a 10 times better developmental guy then Crompton. Crompton just got the benefit of being on the Redskins tape from the last preseason game.

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by Parks Smith on Dec 2, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Houston is sending out Yates with playoffs on the line.

Devlin want even called up to be a back up. He couldn’t best out Matt Moore, who is their Rex Grossman. All i’m saying its why not evaluate who we have and stop worrying about a guys we could have had if the coaching staff wanted him. Just because he went to Deleware doesn’t make him the next Flacco.

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by Copious 1 on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Houston doesn't have a choice.

Who else are they going to put out there?

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by Parks Smith on Dec 2, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Clemens was a good move. At least he had some exposure to a similar offense while he was

with the Redskins. According to David Anderson the Skins terminology was nearly the same as the Texans. Also, Yates had a favorable write up compared to Matt Leinart recently.

by Jefferson1935 on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

How about Sage Rosenfels

who you mentioned above had been cut. I would think that he would be a natural as he was playing for the Texans a few years ago & would know the offense.

by ENsDad27 on Dec 2, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't get this at all

according to your logic Crompton can’t beat out Grossman or Beck.

Devlin is a guy with a little upside, who it would be nice to have a look at, that’s all. By signing Devlin we can have both Crompton and Devlin going into the offseason, 2 is better than 1 in my book.

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by Steve Shoup on Dec 2, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Moore is actually playing pretty well

Look up his stats, they are comparable to Matt Ryans in many areas. I am no fan of Devlins, he looked great at Delaware & really struggled against elite competition at the Senior Bowl but he is easily a much better prospect than Jonathan Crompton.

by ENsDad27 on Dec 2, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

not that it helps his case but Devlin was at the Shrine game

Locker was the one who struggled at the SB, though it didn’t affect his draft status too much.

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by Steve Shoup on Dec 2, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right that it was the East/West Shrine game

but it was Devlins terrible performance in the game (& a terrible pro-day that he was half an hour late to) that dropped him out of the draft. His line for the game was 2 comp.s out of 7 att.s with 0 TDs & 1 int. He had a college QB rating of 26.4 & an NFL rating of 0.6. Even so, I think he is a better prospect than Crompton. http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?343516-2011-East-West-Shrine-Game-Pat-Devlin-0.6-NFL-QB-rating

by ENsDad27 on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course it would be fun for us to see someone else have a shot

but he’s on the practice squad- if he was showing them something worth taking seriously in practice, he would at least be on the active roster for emergencies.

This is one of those cases where you can imagine anything you want for the guy because you haven’t actually seen him. We know that there are coaches watching Crompton, and unfortunately we have every reason to believe that they think he stinks.

by sofutomygaha on Dec 2, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

We had coaches watching Beck too.

Don’t you think in hindsight it would have been good to see how much he sucked in real live game action before the end of the season last year?

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by Copious 1 on Dec 2, 2011 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The real reason this is a good idea....

Is if Rex goes down in a game (I really hope he doesn’t) putting Crompton is will keep some fans in the stadium. If the Skins have less than a 21 point lead in a game that Beck enters, I expect a loss.

by timith on Dec 2, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

I hope they extend him an opportunity to

Work in advertising. That guy can hype a pile of poo so much that everyone is clamoring to sniff it.

by timith on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of looking at both Crompton and Devlin

But I also want us to get one of the top QBs in the draft (whichever Shanahan wants between Luck, Barkley, Jones, Griffin, et al). So we’d be heading into 2012 with Grossman, Beck, Crompton, Devlin, and the great rookie. Wow – a plethora of QBs.
Not really fair to Devlin or Crompton though – Devlin could decide to stay in Miami. It would probably end up with Rex starting, rookie, Devlin, eventually giving way to rookie, Rex, Devlin. They are probably keeping Beck as the backup just in case we keep winning, with a chance at 8-8 or 9-7. They may think keeping Crompton as the backup is like giving up on the season.

by Donnio1234 on Dec 2, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

Crompton is pure garbage.

Not sure if anyone followed his career at Tenn but he was a poor man’s version of Rex Grossman minus the Good Rex.

@Callahan_9 on the twitter machine.

by Diesel44 on Dec 2, 2011 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

He's on the PS roster and has been all year.

He can’t be worse than Beck. Why not see what he can do in live game action for there last game of the season. Devlin does bitter know the offense and therefore could nor be fairly evaluated. That is all. Thus…no reason for Devlin to even be a part of THIS conversation.

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by Copious 1 on Dec 2, 2011 7:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mobile post corrections

*He can’t be worse than Beck. Why not see what he can do in live game action for the last game of the season. He knows the system or at least should due to being in the system for the season. Devlin doesn’t know the offense and therefore could not be fairly evaluated. That is all. Thus…no reason for Devlin to even be a part of THIS conversation.

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by Copious 1 on Dec 2, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

But somebody drafted him, no?

I can’t remember, but how did he do against us (in the preseason)?
Of course I would defer to the coaches who see (any) QB every day in practice – they must at least think they can tell relative talent, but they have made mistakes – just look at the last few years. One problem could be that they can’t really measure certain crucial intangibles – like the ability to find the open man in a game situation. I can’t see why they couldn’t give him a few series in a meaningless game.

by Donnio1234 on Dec 2, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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