I have seen our next Quarterback.... and he is RG3
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Football games are televised at odd times over here in Germany due to the fact that they are normally played at around 11 p.m. or so… So I just finished watching the Oklahoma-Baylor replay on AFN. Having seen YouTube clips and dashing photos of Robert Griffin III over the past month or two, and monitoring the debates raging here at HogsHaven, I made sure to see this guy for myself. I mean, sure, you can read about his Olympic aspirations in the 110 and 400m hurdles, where he has shown world-class speed for the past few years; see the gaudy Big 12 offensive numbers in his box score results; but there are things that I noticed about a guy who should be available for us in the 2012 Draft that I thought I would share - after the break.
•The play late in the third quarter where Baylor had a Phil Costa-style snap-before-the-qb-is-ready moment. RG3 was able to track down the ball a good 20-25 yards behind the line of scrimmage, somewhere around the 50 yard line. Recognizing that he absolutely CANNOT take this sack, he scanned, broke the tackle box for the sideline, and basically Vick-Flicked a rope to the near sideline – just above anyone’s reach – three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. They went on to pick up a first down out of that series. With our O-line in its current state, we need a guy who can erase a few team-wide mental collapses through sheer ability. Point number 3:
•I think we can all agree that Oklahoma has a front 7 full of legit NFL-caliber talent, and they were able to collapse the pocket at times, but his physical ability coupled with his field awareness made for more than a few plays that started off with me thinking, "Man, he’s dead meat", and ended with "wow, I can’t believe he got out of that". Cue numerous times of RG3 sliding to his right (or left!) to buy time for either underneath guys to uncover or, usually, for someone deep to break open. Add to that his knack of taking the ball upfield to 1)move the chains, and 2) keep the D honest on his receivers, and I swear I am looking at what I always thought Michael Vick should have developed into at Atlanta, and close to what he has become, when healthy, up north there in Philly
•Finally, with all the talk about Luck, Landry Jones (who I have been impressed with for a long time – dating back to when he used to spell Sam Bradford and put up huge numbers), and Matt Barkley (who showed – again – that he is going to be a big-time passer in this league), I feel like these guys will be off the draft board, if not within the first 7 picks, then definitely by the first 10. I think RG3 will fall to us, and I think we would be nuts to not bring him on board. I did not used to be a big fan of the first round QB – I think I still have Heath Shuler and Patrick Ramsey stink on me – but:
•The teams who win consistently in the NFL nowadays have big-time QBs. Period. The guys who are going deep into the playoffs and Super Bowls are named Manning, Roethlisberger, Flacco, and Rivers. These guys have all played in Conference Championship Games. Some teams get lucky with a later round or a retread, like Brees or Brady, but even the teams on the rise nowadays have guys like Stafford, Andy Dalton – hell, even Tebow. Alex Smith was a Number 1 – he may not be wowing with numbers, but his team is smoking-hot right now. WE NEED to get into this modern offensive game with a REAL quarterback. Our experiment this year with second (third?) rate qbs has born little fruit.
I think RG3 is our guy.
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I know that through the Butterfly Effect of league personnel moves, Jason Campbell could not possibly have stayed and we still have the quality pieces we havee acquired in the last few years… still…. he was slightly mobile with a BIG arm, two things we can’t seem to put together in the same body nowadays.
by Prodigal PGcounty son on Nov 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions
If Miami finishes with a worse record then....
I’m thinking they will shock alot of people and take rg3 allowing us to snatch Matt Barkley. I think he is the prime fit for our team.
I suspect he is way more accurate and "pass first" than is probably assumed.
Saturday’s game was the first full one I have watched him play…..really did not expect to see him make so many reads and show so much poise in the pocket. Especially towards the end when he was using play action to survey the field 2-3 secs before throwing. Hits so many guys in stride too…..only question, is he too thin for the NFL?
I think he is ok
I see him listed as 6’2" 220 lbs, and he plays sturdy. I definitely considered that while watching the game — also my first time watching a full game of him.
by Prodigal PGcounty son on Nov 21, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Barkley has actually grown on me a bit this season.
I mainly watch Pac-10 (I don’t care about Colorado or Utah) football, and going into the season, I felt that Barkley was pretty overrated. He didn’t have a great arm or great mobility or great decision-making. He still doesn’t have a great arm (it’s above average, but he tends to float those “NFL passes” like the deep out or the streak), but I think he’s really improved his football IQ. Combine that with above average accuracy, and I’m starting to think he might be an okay NFL QB. And he did have one of the best games of his career last night—I’d agree with you that he played great. Still, I don’t see him as worthy of a top 15 pick. I just feel like I never find myself thinking, “Wow, what a great throw by Barkley.” It’s usually more like, “Well, that was a decent throw, and look, the receiver just made an amazing catch and/or juked two defenders after the catch.”
And he DOES have the best WR tandem in the nation, a duo that pretty much outclasses any of the Pac-10’s corners by quite a bit. Having watched the SC/UO game, I’m sure you’re aware of that as well.
"Dominant" is an adjective.
"Dominate" is a verb.
We'll work on "Dominance" once we get the first two figured out.
Case Keenum on the list above others?
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by Copious 1 on Nov 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i figured
he is about to break a few NCAA records and his team is undefeated, I thought that warranted consideration. I have been a fan of Kellen Clemens for a while now too, but I think our O-line would leave him broken in two within the first month of the season – not that big of a guy.
by Prodigal PGcounty son on Nov 20, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
gaaaaah. You're right.
boise State’s guy… he impresses me with being able to win with different groups of backs & receivers around him…..
by Prodigal PGcounty son on Nov 21, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
hah, same reason i like RG3...his team lacks playmakers, other than him
and yet he has proven he can still get it done against quality teams like Oklahoma.
I think the knock on Kellen Moore is that he doesnt run a pro offense and I also think he is rather short/small for a pro QB
Hail to 'Em
by SkinsaneAsylum on Nov 21, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I have been entrenched in the Landry Jones camp....until....
Last night, I watched the Oregon vs. USC game very close and came away very impressed with Barkley. He doesn’t force things, he progresses through his reads well, and makes smart decisions while stiin the pocket. Above all that, USC’s offense isn’t spread or gimmicky like a lot of these other QBs are coming out of and Barkley takes snaps from under center a majority of the time. He throws a nice deep ball and crisp short routes. I also watched him the game from the week before and didn’t come away as impressed….but I wasn’t unimpressed either. I have found myself slowly going from Jones to the Barkley side. Although he doesn’t appear as mobile (which may be something desired depending on how our OL shapes up), he was still able to bootleg and scramble for a first down when needed.
At least "WE ARE" not Penn State!!!
Most people jumped on the Barkley train
I’m still 100% for RGIII over anyone but Luck. Being honest though, I’m not disappointed as long as we end up with Luck, RGIII, Jones, or Barkley. Any of those 4 and I think the Redskins will be in good shape. I really feel like RGIII’s mobility, arm strength, and just God-given ability would be great for this system. He throws a great deep ball, and he can stretch the field with his arms and legs. That’s why I like him more than Jones or Barkley. Regardless, we really can’t go wrong unless we don’t draft a QB.
There are a handful of other QBs who could be good fits.
Biggest is Foles, who I’ve been thinking for the last year would be the target if the Redskins were choosing the QB in the 2nd, but there are others who would be out there (Tannenhill is being highly touted; he’s likely to be a very late 1st to mid 2nd QB, like Foles).
I’m not sure RG3 fits Shanny’s mold, though.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
After Luck of course
I would be happy drafting either RGIII or Barkley. Just like alot of you i am becoming more and more impressed with barkley and would probably rather draft him over griffin if they were both available right now
I'm also on the RG3 bandwagon
I’d actually be happy with either Luck (we won’t get him), Barkely, or RG3, but RG3 is my favorite QB prospect right now.
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2 things
A. I don’t think RG3 comes out this year
B. I don’t think RG3 will be a top 6-7 pick, which is where it looks like we’ll be picking. We may actually be top 5 with the way things are going right now.
What?
WalterFootball has RG3 going #2 in their mock. He’s a lock to go top 5 if he declares.
And in the end, I think RG3 ends up declaring. He has nothing left to accomplish in college.
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he is a world class hurdler
I have seen stories that say he might stay and try to compete in the 110m hurdles at the 2012 Olympics. That would suck for us, but damn, what a talent.
by Prodigal PGcounty son on Nov 21, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
if he wins the heisman, they won't be talking about him as a 2nd rounder
by sofutomygaha on Nov 20, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I meant #2 overall pick, not 2nd round pick
No one even has RG3 falling all the way to the 2nd right now. He’s definitely going top 5 if he keeps up this pace, and could go as high as #2.
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Actually, Todd McShay does
But I was agreeing with you. Around this time last year, a lot of pundits had Cam Newton in the second round. I disagree with MrQ and I agree with you that Griffin will go in the top 10, and will be worthy of the Redskins’ pick.
by sofutomygaha on Nov 21, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
It is a possibility. Seahawks, Vikings, Jets and Eagles are all winnable games.
I have my ship
And all her flags are a flyin'
She is all that I have left
And music is her name
I think RG3 will be the 2nd rated qb prospect by the draft.
Does Barkley look much better than Leinart or Sanchez did in USCs offense? People assumed that Cam was inaccurate and couldnt “make all the throws” that private workout he had shot him up to #1. Folks seems to know that RG3 is accurate, but I suspect when the scouts see his workouts vs Barkley it will be really tough to choose the slower guy with much less arm strength when it’s apparent their accuracy is equal.
I am with the majoirty it seems
in that while I pine for what appears to be as dynamic a QB option to come out of the draft since Vick….and maybe Cam, i guess…..I am starting to lean towards Barkley over Landry Jones. At this point, it appears like there will be 4 or 5 extremely stong QBs to pick from coming out of college. This, obvioulsy, is excellent news for the Redskins and what I like to tell myself was our plan all along when we didnt take a QB last year (it was).
Between RGIII and Barkley, i prefer RGIII just b/c of his insane athletic ability as well as his poise in the pocket. He is playing with much less talent than Barkley and can still get that offense hummin’
GOD! Can it please be April already!! (SMH….such a sad thing to have to say in NOVEMBER)
Hail to 'Em
I just picked this up on Wikipedia
He is currently studying for a Masters in Communications
smart guy, military parents, graduated high school early. I’m such a fan. the highlights against Texas A&M alone got me stoked on him.
by Prodigal PGcounty son on Nov 21, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions
I don't know, he deff is growing on me but my order is still
1. Luck
2. Barkley
3. Griffin III
4. Jones
If RGIII can run a NFL offense and can shoot a hole through through a gnats As$ with a football then I’d take him. I am still leery on these scrambling qbs.
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He's as accurate as anyone in the draft.
73%comp this season and only 5ints…which is really superb when you consider he averages 10 yards/completion so it’s nothing like a dink-dunk offense where he either runs or throws a short pass. He’s throwing for 350yd/game. This season is attempting 33 passes per game vs 13 rushes….this kid is so legit, I sincerely hope Shanny considers him. He looks like he may be under 6’2" though which would derail his stock….tough to tell tho, we’ll see at the combine.
I think he may have just moved equal to Barkley with this from NFL.com
"USC’s Matt Barkley* is benefitting from having great wideouts. The emergence of the USC QB’s young receiving corps has made Barkley look like a potential franchise quarterback. That is not intended to diminish his wonderful accomplishments this season, but the fact that Robert Woods* and Marquise Lee* have blossomed into big-time playmakers has keyed Barkley’s stellar play during the second half of the season.
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Funny how the recievers make a QB look good when the ball is delivered to them between the numbers while they are in full stride almost every pass play
I have my ship
And all her flags are a flyin'
She is all that I have left
And music is her name
Barkely is playing behind the best line in college football
It’s the same with every USC qb, they have so many great players on offense it’s difficult to determine how much success is the group and how much is an individual player.

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