Carlos Rogers Drops Smack Talk..Catches Flak From Redskins
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT
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Well, Carlos Rogers has been making his rounds with the D.C. media the last 24 hours. Last night Los was a guest on the LaVar & Dukes show, where he spoke about playing against his old team and the Redskins not renewing his contract. After the jump are some of the Redskins' players comebacks. Things got a bit juicy here:
"[With San Fran,] I'm not worried about if I give up a touchdown I may get benched. They let me be free, they let me blitz, they let me play man how I want to play it. They know I've been playing in the league for awhile so they kinda take my advice on things I have to say."
On coaches taking the blame, which he suggested this regime does not do, via DC Sports Bog:
"You know, coaches can give you a lot of confidence, when you have the ability to do things and they let you do it...And when [coaches] mess up, they say I made a bad call, I shouldn't have put y'all in that situation."
On whether he thought about re-signing with the Skins...
"No, not at all. Like I said I wanted to leave there two years ago. It wasn't even in the discussion, my people didn't talk to them and they didn't talk to us."
Mike Shanahan fired back with a reply of his own:
If Carlos Rogers had played more consistent last year, he would have been re-signed long-term.
It's not hard to blame Los for wanting out two years ago. The Redskins where arguably at the lowest point in franchise history as the Zorn era was ending. Carlos was/is in the prime of his career and re-starting for a regime overhaul and piss-poor defense is not a place I would have wanted to stay either.
It is a bit alarming to hear Shanahan saying Los played inconsistent. Hasn't that been the story for every Redskin player in the Shanahan era the last two years (not named London Fletcher)?
Let's continue. DHall spoke about Carlos as FNN transcribed:
"You always miss having a guy like Carlos Rogers around," said Hall. "He's funny. He's entertaining. He's a good football player. He finally started to catch the ball-we could have used that....He's been calling me after every interception, so I know he had a lot."
Andre Carter has 4.5 sacks for the Pats. Carlos has 3 INTs for the Pats. Heck, even Haynesworth is playing. Something certainly is going on where players get better when they leave the Redskins. Anyone?
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My favorite Los quote was that he wasn't here to talk about the Redskins, yet he's been doing it all week.
Makes you wonder if the guy was totally mailing it in the past couple of years.
I’d trade DHall for Carlos right now though.
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And as a 49er fan, I say no! :)
Rogers has been a very nice surprise and is having a career year. I am also taking it with a grain of salt because he IS having a career year. The fall to back to Earth may be ugly, but for now I’m enjoying the ride. Never been impressed with Hall, only back in Madden 2006 where I used the Falcons was he impressive :P
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by afrikabamboodle on Nov 2, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Carlos was always a great cover corner here. He couldn't catch a cold, but that didn't matter much to me.
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I think as Redskins fans we shouldn't want him back
He hates the franchise and publicly stated he would LOVE to play against us in the NFC East. Why would anyone want him back. He’s lazy. And only playing well there because its a contract year. Yes Los was a slightly above average cover corner here with no ball skills. And that’s fine but not when you drafted him in the 1st round and he didnt want to play for you after two years. He is better in coverage than DHall, no question. But he lost us (or almost lost us) quite a few games with that inability to put away a game with an interception. The 2005 playoffs come to mind. Or how about The dallas opener last year. We won on a penalty but could’ve been in the locker room already if Los held onto a pick. Same with the Colts on Sunday Night. A 3-2 team, still obviously in contention, gets two interceptions off Peyton Manning in the first quarter. Oh wait they didn’t. Both hit #22 in the chest. And the 3-3 Skins head to Chicago where Wait WHO? Deangelo Hall has a 4 interception game. Not one hit him in the chest…. I’m Just Sayin
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by HailToTheRedskins on Nov 3, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
His ability to play the slot is also missed
No matter what your opinion on D-Hall is he definitely does not bring the versatility Rogers did. Rogers has really taken to his new role out here. He makes all the secondary calls and is considered a valuable veteran leader on that team.
by BayAreaBullet on Nov 2, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
My opinion of DHall is he sucks
And he needs to SHUT THE F UP!!
by 64ShagginWagon on Nov 2, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No?
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As a Niner fan, I gotta say I love the guy, and he has been snagging some nifty INT's
But it was pretty funny when the possible INT bounced off his facemask against Dallas
its only funny if you win the game....
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
Actually the Niners LOST that game...
But yeah I hear ya, and believe me us Niner fans have been through a lot the last decade or so.
last year the ball would have bounced off his face into a WR hands for a TD
Supposedly the Niners have a weak offense. They are only ranked 6th in PPG.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Bottom-line...
Carlos wanted to leave 2 years ago because he was tendered and not offered a longterm contract. That is it, that is the list.
This is conjecture.
It’s not hard to blame Los for wanting out two years ago. The Redskins where arguably at the lowest point in franchise history as the Zorn era was ending. Carlos was/is in the prime of his career and re-starting for a regime overhaul and piss-poor defense is not a place I would have wanted to stay either.
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by Diesel44 on Nov 2, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wanted out?
Or did he just plain quit playing hard. I seem to remember that he was playing so he did not get hurt so he could get his next contract.
I liked Carlos and his talent but he was/is a knucklehead. That is why SF only gave him a one year deal too.
No way!
I love DHall because he was awesome for me in FF last year, but Rogers is my favorite DB now.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Nov 2, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think scheme matters as much to CBs
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We play a lot of nickel defense though
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Nov 2, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
4-3 vs 3-4 doesn't but man vs zone does.
Carlos is a better man defender than zone.
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Carlos obviously wasn't happy here
Remember, he was really close with Gregg Williams and Jason Campbell, both of whom were shown the door by the front office/Shanahan regime.
People tend to perform better when they are happier. Albert Haynesworth has played no better since he got to New England (he barely plays at all) and Andre Carter was playing at a high level in Washington when he was in the right scheme. Let’s not get melodramatic here. Carlos getting interceptions is not a reflection of the Redskins, it is a reflection of his hard work paying off.
Furthermore, I agree that Rogers is a good player and always has been. Trading D-Hall for him is not only idiotic, it will never happen. The better question is, would you give up Josh Wilson for him? Josh Wilson came in to replace Rogers, and he has not only played well but is also younger and less expensive.
My best to Carlos but I am very happy with Josh Wilson.
Carlos was significantly better than Josh Wilson
I don’t even know how you can argue that. Though, in reality I would rather have a tandem of Carlos and Wilson than Wilson and Hall.
A trade for Rogers would never happen, but I think parks was trying to display his dissatisfaction with DHall
Carlos got a bad rap here b/c people grilled him for his numerous interception drops...
I’ll take a cover corner over a “playmaking” corner all day long.
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If Josh Wilson was taller I wouldn't be so uncomfortable with the Hall-Wilson tandem
But short corners notoriously have a harder time.
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Don't worry, according to iH8dallas if someone short elbows a taller person in the stomach then the taller person becomes shorter
You’re taller than me? Great, I’ll jam my elbow in your ribs, make you shorter.
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As a very short human being
I can vouch for the falsity of that statement.
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same thing happened
to Walt Harris when he left here for San Fran – played at a very high level for them
Carlos – you’re about to get owned Sunday ….
haha... sorry
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that's actually hilarious
You said the exact same thing. When’s the last time that happened?
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Yeah, without Santana, it'll be tough
I heard on Ch 4 sports (Dan Helie) that TA (presumably Austin) says he is very familiar with Carlos – old friends and workout buddies – and looks forward to playing against him.
By who? Beck to Stallworth?
Carlos – you’re about to get owned Sunday ….
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Beck to Stallworth
I get goose bumps thinking about what those 2 can’t accomplish.
by hambonejackson on Nov 2, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That won't be happening.
Carlos – you’re about to get owned Sunday ….
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he's gonna get exposed
Carlos loses focus plenty of times on the field… always points the finger elsewhere other than himself – he was SOLID most of the time, but it’s his attitude that doesn’t fit
when he drops INT’s he blames it on the Sun
Just run a double move and he’s toast
a la – when byron leftwhich toasted him before the elections when he’s playing 5 yds into the endzone and lets the WR walk score in infront of him
If JESSE HOLLEY can beat him – so can our guys
???
Holley didn’t beat him. So what does that comment even mean? Did you read the article that you posted? I’m betting no.
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If he wasn't exposed by the offenses of Dallas, Philly, Tampa and Detroit, what makes you think he will against the great passing attack of the Redskins?
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"If Carlos Rogers had played more consistent last year, he would have been re-signed long-term."
look like Landry is gone and Fred Davis will be a Skin
Carlos Rogers is my baby! Don’t care what anyone says. He was a good cover man for us. I respect him.
The Redskins are my team. That is all.
That must make you like 55.
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There great until you sober up
and you look at her morning no botox face and there is silicone all over the sheets.
by hambonejackson on Nov 2, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially when he realizes....
that’s not silicone!!!
Dream Team who??????
by shvd98z24 on Nov 2, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Andre Carter
is better because he is playing 4-3 D-end, not linebacker in the 4-3. He tried the linebacker thing in SF before coming here, and was bad at it. He simply isn’t a linebacker.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
That’s my point. You play players to their strengths. Skins coaches obviously don’t care about that. We could have been a lot better last year even as a hybrid team. Try the 3-4 sporadically.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I felt we were a hybrid team
They played a significant number of snaps in the 4-3. It just wasn’t our base defense.
actually they played a significant amount of 4 man fronts in the nickel not as a base 4-3 if I remember correctly.
Only way they could affectively bring QB pressure but weakened us against the run.
by BayAreaBullet on Nov 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ditto Jason Taylor (on playing guys to their strengths)
Still a great player, totally wasted by our genius coaches.
And he's playing
Situationally. He’s not an every down player (anymore). Too robotic.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
That wasn't a very smart quote by Mike
I don’t remember a lot of inconsistency on Carlos’ part last year other than dropping balls…but that isn’t what Shanahan said…
sounds like thou protest too much to me…
more poor evaluation huh…
What the hell do you want him to say? 'Los wasn't coming back no matter what.
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It was a question asked directly to him during the presser today if I'm not mistaken...
As good as Shanny is at stonewalling the press, you have to answer some questions
Just b/c Shanny doesn't like you doesn't mean you have to butt in.
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Shanny could just answer like Andy Reid does and just breath really heavily into the mic.
And then make some sort of Chewbacca sound.
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+1
Thanks for making me laugh out loud in the stall.
by RobtheRedskin on Nov 3, 2011 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
High road
Eagles fan playing the high road card. Do you smell the irony?
by Art Vandalay on Nov 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How about...
“My focus is one beating the San Francisco 49ers this week, but I wish all of my former players the best of luck”.
Your turn…
It's obviously got Carlos worked up, so I'm fine with it.
Carlos has already said he expects the Skins to work a lot of double moves on him. Maybe he can fax Haslett the rest of the gameplan.
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haha I don't think so.
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Not sure it matters
since Beck doesn’t like to release the ball.
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by Parks Smith on Nov 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rogers talks too much.
Do not listen to him, peoples.
I know.....
a double negative cancels itself out………what the hell does a double plural do???
Dream Team who??????
Poor Carlos has the worst grammar of any player I've ever heard talk
Had to be lousy schools, because he’s not dumb (at least, not exceptionally so, although he is another one not able to handle his money – lost his house, etc). By the way, when he was still here he said he wanted to come back, but, implicitly, only for a lot more money. I don’t think he got as much money as he wanted from SF.
Sure, he's been
Racking up the INT’s, but what’s gonna happen when he returns to the origin of his yips? 
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
He'll still be our No.1 DB
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Nov 2, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
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