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Would You Rather...

Wednesday is as good a day as any to throw out a toss-up question to anyone interested in debating topics that don't pertain to Super Bowl contention. I have to make you make a hard decision though. Nothing easy around here.

I will preface today's question by stating that we could and probably should stand pat at running back going into the 2012 season. Tim Hightower, Roy Helu and Ryan Torain give our offense a variety of skills and strengths that can be utilized at varying times by the offensive coaching staff. If the question was, "Would I change it up," my answer would be, "Negative."

That is too easy. So in this topsy-turvy world of the NFL, let's just assume for the sake of this discussion that we had to cut one of these guys loose to make room for another player. Which one would you send packing and why?

Creative answers always appreciated the most.

Poll
If you HAD to pick one of our three running backs to cut in order to make room for another player prior to the 2012 season, which one would it be (tell us why in the comments section)?
Tim Hightower
53 votes
Roy Helu
25 votes
Ryan Torain
565 votes

643 votes | Poll has closed

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Sorry to disappoint...

but there is no creativity involved in cutting Torain. Matter of fact, I could see this actually happening, with Royster being brought in to fill the spot.

I am extremely hopeful, that Hightower comes back as good as ever. I really thought he was going to bring excitement to our offense and, given a better line, I still believe he will next year. RB is not an area of vital concern. If there is no hole, nowhere to run, you get what you get.

by jgibbsfan1 on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah it has to be Torain

I know he had a great game against the Rams, but since then he has something like 54 yards on 32 carries, which is beyond pathetic. Sure even Foster/Peterson/Forte/McCoy would see their numbers go down rushing behind this line, but come on Torain’s been awful. And Helu and Hightower (before the injury) were still running better than him.

Torain also grades out the worst in pass protection, and receiving out of the backfield. And for being a supposed power guy he’s been getting stopped on goalline plays and short yardage situations.

I think the Skins need to hope Hightower recovers, sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal, but look for him to be a 3rd down back. I think they need to look to bring another guy in next year who can push/complement Helu.

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by Steve Shoup on Nov 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Could be the easiest question I've ever been asked.

Who voted for Helu?

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

and his family

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Easiest question you have ever been asked?

What about when Tiller asked you if you liked him better in turquoise capri’s or bright red short shorts?

by Ken Meringolo on Nov 16, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That wasn't even a question Ken. The man is stunning in turquoise.

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd cut Torain if I had to cut one.

Helu offers something different with his speed and ability as a receiver out of the backfield. Hightower is a brilliant blocker and follows the system exactly how it’s coached. He brings intensity to the team and showed some chemistry with the starting Oline (taking them out to dinner, etc). Torain offers the ability to just run people over. But he doesn’t really offer anything on 3rd down (Helu better receiver, Hightower a better blocker and receiver) and we all know his injury history. So assuming Hightower makes a full recovery from his injury and comes back 100%, I’d cut Torain if I had to cut one.

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by UkRedskin on Nov 16, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

Torain

Yes, this is not that hard. He hasn’t lived up to anything beside that Rams game. Helu and Hightower make a good combo, with maybe a 3rd guy as insurance.

by redskins-texas-fan on Nov 16, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

What about Choice (as a choice, not that I would cut him)?

Torain has been stopped recently, but I assume it is that the line is not creating any holes for him.

by Donnio1234 on Nov 16, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Michael Bush

I’d let torrain go and sign Michael Bush as a free agent from the Raiders. Of course, I wanted them to trade Betts after the year he gained 1000 yards and draft Bush. Bush should be available for a fairly reasonable price and would be a significant upgrade over our current guys. He’s still young enough for 4 or 5 more good years.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 16, 2011 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt the Raiders let him get away with Run DMC's health
Bush should be available for a fairly reasonable price and would be a significant upgrade over our current guys. He’s still young enough for 4 or 5 more good years.

What? He’ll be 28.

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking 26

Guess he’s got 2 or 3 years left. I think the Raiders would have to overpay to keep him when offered a starting job elsewhere.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 16, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what everyone said last year, how'd that work out?

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Cut Hightower

He hasn’t fumbled the ball once this year. Just another popular player we traded for – only for him to quit performing like he used to.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Nov 16, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Please explain what you just wrote.

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a joke...

…just like your touchdown dance.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Nov 16, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We don't score touchdowns so how have you seen my dance?

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He dreamt it last night, as a "prophecy".

He’s leaving out the part about making you an offer.

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by BillWard on Nov 16, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think what

He’s insinuating is that your dancing skills are non existent, just like our ability to penetrate the forcefield/goal line.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well his insinuation is incorrect. I was once asked to be on Soul Train.

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Kevin was my mentor

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

THERE IT IS!!!

I KNEW Kevin reminded me of someone.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What about Tashard Choice ??

I voted Torain mainly on injury concerns but it could easily have been Hightower (or both)

by ENsDad27 on Nov 16, 2011 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

That was my question, too.

Choice hasn’t suited up yet, so no one has an opinion, really.

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by BillWard on Nov 16, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i voted helu

We don’t run the ball so why should the rookie have to spend his best years as a dump off machine for kyles crappy offense?

sorry couln’t resist :)

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by Al_CaPWNED on Nov 16, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

dump receptacle

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Nov 16, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I know this is gonn kill Parks

But I have to say Torain. Ever since the Rams game he has been less ATV and more Lil’ Red Tricycle. Hightower wasn’t much better, but he’s very Clinton’esque in passpro, which makes him nice to have around.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2011 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Definitely Torain

He isn’t fast, so he should be a bruising back hitting people going throught the hole. Problem is, he gets hurt easily, meaning he can’t do either.

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by Mister Awesome on Nov 16, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Torain

Helu and Hightower have way more upside

by yellowfeathers on Nov 16, 2011 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone who who didn't vote for Torain is either a moron or is REALLY out there.

Injury issues plus an inability to do ANYTHING this year. Hightower produced when he was playing, and Helu has shown more than Torain as a rookie. Cut Torain.

by The Agent C 83 on Nov 16, 2011 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed on all accounts

Sorry, Torrain. 2 ypc outside of the STL game doesn’t cut it.

by SAP_Pete on Nov 16, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It is settled then. ATV needs to go now-I've never seen this much agreement here

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by Skins Fan '77 on Nov 16, 2011 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

My vote is for...it doesn't really matter who we cut.

RBs are a dime-a-dozen in the NFL. If you can block for them and open up space with a legit passing game then they all can run. If you can’t do those things, then they can’t run. The drop off between the 1st and 3rd string running back is probably less than it would be at any other position on the field. IMO Teams should NEVER invest significant resources towards the position in today’s NFL. As skilled as Helu appears to be I wish we had taken a shot on another O linemen, D-lineman or DB with that draft pick…

This team needs so much more than RBs…and I know no one here is denying that, I just think it is pointless for us to focus on that position. If I had to really answer the question I guess it should be based on whoever pass blocks the best since that is an area where one of a few areas where a RB can really distinguish himself from another.

by rva on Nov 16, 2011 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

my bad...

I just saw the poll and responded out of frustration witht he direction of the team.. Didn’t read the main article…

Hail to the Redskins always and forever.

by rva on Nov 16, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

wheres a option for mike shannahan?

wish he make up his mind who is gonna go with….. i swear he spys on my fantasy teams and doesnt play the guy i have on my team. soon as a drop them bam… that rb gets the full work load

by munson21502 on Nov 16, 2011 7:57 PM EST reply actions  

Why would you have a Skins RB on your team?

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by Parks Smith on Nov 16, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i would drop choice

but since he isnt up there i voted for torain

by munson21502 on Nov 16, 2011 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

"Dang, who was crazy enough to vote for Helu?"

-Mike Tyson

HEY! If you were a hotdog, would ya eat yourself?

by jellis113 on Nov 16, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

WTF.....why don't you ask....

Would you rather…..paint your toenails pink for a day or have your fingernails pulled out with needle nose pliers one by one? Torain…..can’t stay healthy and isn’t much of a 3rd down threat. Hightower hasn;t shown he can handle the load….but the upside is better and I think he is a better fit. Helu isn’t even part of the conversation for me…..I really like Helu. Not sure that he will break anymore records for us or anything….but I think he could be a valuable part of this team for years a la Kevin Faulk for the Patriots (no bitches….not in any other way comparing us to the Patriots)!

At least "WE ARE" not Penn State!!!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 16, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

torain

i like torain but his injury history and he is a straky runner he has 2 great games then 5 bad ones he is to up and down

lohaus #54

by lohaus#54 on Nov 16, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Probably Choice, Hightower, Helu and Torain will come to camp

and they will compete for a job. Like Shanahan says. As of now, Torain is at the bottom of the list. Sort of strange – he seems to have regressed – he did some good running last year. Could it be an injury? Or just that the line never opens any holes?

by Donnio1234 on Nov 16, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

Hightower

Why wait to see if he can bounce back ? He has sustained a major injury. No one will pick him up. Bring up Royster, move Torain to 3rd String ( if you could cut 2 then he would be out as well). You have to see what Royster can do before you bring in another guy. Hightower will always be available.

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by Rodskin on Nov 16, 2011 11:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHA

hey tommy gunn i said all this time Torain was terrible and now this poll so who was right hmmm tommy HMMMMMM?

by TheDeepBall on Nov 17, 2011 3:34 AM EST reply actions  

Hightower and Torain...

I think Helu can establish himself as a solid number one with some improved blocking. I may expecting too much out of Choice, but I think he could have been a great addition once healthy. We have Royster on the practice squad and could easily spend a 6th rounder on a decent guy

Torain should be cut for obvious reasons, and Hightower’s return seems unlikely. Hightower was better than average…but after an injury like that, he maybe return to mediocracy. I like him, but there are 100 kids coming out of college this year that are bigger and faster. I’d rather spend our energy on grooming a youngster than rehabbing a 1 year vet in this system

by ptowny on Nov 17, 2011 7:28 AM EST reply actions  

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