Ten Yard Fight: Washington Redskins Turning Into Washington Generals...Let's Just Schedule the Globetrotters and Get On With It
1. I had planned up a "Counting Our Blessings" type post for this week, but then it occurred to me that we still have seven games left to play. While I think there are plenty of things we can point to about this season that should make us optimistic, I am pretty sure I can't handle seven weeks of "taking stock."
2. I am ecstatic about the future prospects of a starting group that includes our top four draft choices. It is as much a reason to hope for our chances in the next draft as it is a reason to hope for more wins next season. That said, the injuries we have sustained this year have not only hampered our success for the 2011 season, they have hampered crucial development opportunities for these guys. That puts a tiny damper on the greatness of our draft haul unfortunately.
3. Simply put, the Hankerson injury is one huge turd in the punch bowl that is this season. When I say it could be worse though, I am not referring to the actual injury. Thanks to nine weeks of hard work by Hank the Tank, here is what we know that we did not know in August/September: Hankerson can catch balls on Sundays. Not only that, was I the only one literally knocked out of my seat by his route-running? He legitimately got himself open with his route-running. He made moves without the ball that created spaces for the quarterback to get the ball to him. While he didn't magically morph into Jerry Rice, I think that if you compared game film of him from the Dolphins game to film of him from earlier this year you would see less wasted movements, better hands and an improved ability to work north-south. For example, he caught a pass at one point that was nothing more than a quick-hitter from the slot position. Instead of trying to move laterally to try and dodge a linebacker, did you see how he turned DIRECTLY upfield? He took five or six guaranteed yards instead of gambling and being stopped for a gain of only one or two yards. That is a huge part of being a solid possession receiver in this league. So when Hank recovers from his injury and gets back on the field, we know that he is capable of relying on technique, intellect and sure-handedness. Combine that with his size and red-zone capabilities, and he could easily be starting for us on Opening Day in 2012, even if he does lose a little bit of speed.
4. Another way to look at our upcoming offseason is that whatever we are able to come up with in the next two months on the field, we will be adding some decent players to the mix that will feel like free agent additions...kind of. Just the idea of adding Chris Cooley, Leonard Hankerson and Tim Hightower to this offense has a nice ring to it. Adding Jarvis Jenkins to our defensive line will hopefully also achieve a similar feeling. And at this pace, we could have like, 15 of these kinds of additions by the time the season finally ends!
5. If you were guaranteed to land TWO offensive linemen in the top two rounds of the draft that would start for the Redskins on Opening Day--a stud tackle and a stud center--would you take that and try and find a quarterback in the third round or later? Would you consider bringing in a veteran quarterback to play behind them for another year and use your other top picks to try and find starters at linebacker and corner?
6. I am convinced that we could convince ourselves to put the quarterback decision off for years if we focused solely on the fact that we have so many holes on our roster. No matter how you slice it though, we will never advance as an organization until we have a guy under center who at least has a legitimate chance to be a top quarterback in the league. Here's a question: What stunts the growth of a franchise more--rolling with players like Rex Grossman and John Beck at quarterback or picking the WRONG quarterback at the top of the first round? Before you think too hard on that one, make sure there is a wastebasket nearby that you can vomit into.
7. We are officially to the point in the season where everyone--players, coaches, fans--questions the state of things relative to the state of things in recent years. For us, that means the realization we are terrible now, and have been terrible for a while. Now is when people start bailing from the emotional investment they have tried so hard not to make but did anyway. Not me...I'll be front and center to help put the last nail in the coffin in the beginning of January.
8. I don't fault or overly criticize fans who seek shelter from the depression that our team rains down on D.C. every year. But for those of us who stay invested until the bitter end, I do believe the payoff is that much greater when this thing gets fully turned around. If only I could perfect the science behind cryogenics...Redskins fans would freeze themselves by the thousands. Imagine the reception we would get when, in 2058, we were reanimated to witness the greatest year in decades for the Washington Redskins: a 12-4 season that gets us a playoff date against Seattle! Uhhhhh...note to lab: don't unfreeze me if we are playing Seattle in the playoffs.
9. God, I want to beat Dallas...so bad...with every fiber of my fanhood. I don't care if it's ugly (good thing for me, since that is the only way we would win) and I don't care if it is because Dallas beat themselves. We have a chance to pee in the Cowgirls' cornflakes this Sunday, and hurt their playoff chances considerably. A loss to the Redskins could unhinge just about any team at this point of the season.
10. Think about it...what is worse than losing to us right now? In NFL terms, there is nothing worse in the league than losing to the Redskins right now. We can't score points, we consistently put our defense in bad spots and we are getting zero production from the quarterback position. Even if you lose to Indy right now, you could say, "They were due..." There is no excuse to lose to us this week, Dallas. NONE. Good luck with that.
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If you were guaranteed to land TWO offensive linemen in the top two rounds of the draft that would start for the Redskins on Opening Day—a stud tackle and a stud center—would you take that and try and find a quarterback in the third round or later?
Nice. That marks the 8th consecutive year I’ve answered this question. (It’s yes by the way).
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 15, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Are you sure it's not the 9th?
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yes but you've got to draft that QB and not wait until the last 2 rounds
the answer has always been yes for me too but I think where the team has gone wrong is never getting that QB in the 3rd or 4th round. We drafted Colt Brennan with our last 6th round pick in 2008 and Jordan Palmer in the 6th round of 2007 and of course Jason Campbell in the 1st round of 2005.
We need a QB this year, someone who isn’t just a long shot – they need to at least be a medium shot. So then the question is whether or not there is such a QB in the draft. If I have to choose between 2 OL and a 6th/7th round OR a 1st round QB and a 2nd round OL then I’ll take the latter because Grossman / Beck are never going to get the job done.
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We cannot wait one more year without picking a quarterback. No more stopgaps. This team is headless without a leader behind center and has been for years. Until we get a rookie QB who we mold into a franchise role, we are just treading water and not making progress.
I could not disagree more with the decision to take two linemen at the top of the draft. The line aren’t the ones throwing picks, missing open receivers…
We understand that a good line helps make a good quarterback. But a good quarterback helps the line too. It’s hard to hold pass-rushers for 6 seconds and it’s hard to get run push when there are 9 guys in the box. We absolutely need a quarterback at the top of this draft and there’s just no debate about it.
It really depends on the QB. Someone like Newton might be ok behind a crappy offensive line because he’s athletic and is able to get out of the pocket easily to make plays, but if it’s a more stay in the pocket type QB it would probably be best to improve the oline first unless you want to get him killed
I truly believe we will only win one or two more games...
Let’s just hope that other win is against Dallas. I think We’ll be picking in the Top 5 come April and CANNOT afford to put of the need for a QB any longer. We have a very good possibly Championship defense. Think about it, if the Patriots had our D There’s no doubt they’d make the Super Bowl. We NEED to address the dire QB Situation and also draft a Right Tackle or a Guard in the 2nd round followed by Cornerback, WR, and LB.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Nov 15, 2011 2:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
you are very optimistic
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We have to be careful with the QB situation.
It’s obvious we need one, and almost anything would be an upgrade over what’s on the roster. But, the reason we are in this mess is because for years we’ve been trying to put a band-aid on something that needs stitches. We should be more than happy to pass on the QB this year, to plug as many spots as possible. I don’t care how you wrap it but, WE ARE NOT ONE PLAYER AWAY.
What the shit
That's certainly true
But the best way to approach this is to get our guy this year and build an offense around him including an O Line and good Receivers. Our defense is Very Good and most of our holes are on Offense. We need to attack the biggest problem head on in this draft.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Nov 15, 2011 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree 100%
I guess I’m just fearful of them moving up to get someone (Luck). I just think that trading picks away to get one player is counter productive at this stage in our “rebuild”.
What the shit
i'm so split on that...see if were at 6-10 we may not get luck jones or barkley depending whos ahead of us
in that situation I’d trade up to get Luck
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6-10 as in where we pick not our record
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What are you trading to get Luck?
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basket of grapes..
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Laron Landry?
Anyone? ….anyone?
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haha I think the Colts have had enough injury plagued, hard hitting safeties.
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Barkley seems to be our guy
He seems to possess all the tools and perhaps his one weakness is lack of arm strength but it’s not bad it’s just average. He has the athleticism to run our bootlegs.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Nov 15, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Luck is even better. Except he doesn't have a cannon arm some say however...
have you seen him make that 50 yard throw falling down?
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Honestly...
I’m currently leaning towards O-line build with our first picks and get a QB 2nd. But only if the QB can fit our system and we can properly protect him. I will shelter another piss poor year with Rex or Beck if it means that our O-line can protect the future QB. I don’t want to see them blow their top picks on a QB that has to endure 9 sacks due to our O-line issues. I never wanna see that again period! Our defense plays solid so I’m not worried there. My words of advice to the Shannys and Bruce this Draft….
we need protection…
Thing is
we have a whole bunch of picks going into next draft. I think we can afford a QB at the top, an RT in the second and an interior OL in the third. Normally I’m all about the O-line (and honestly I will not complain if we use our top pick to address it) but for once we’re in a situation where we’ll have a high enough first round pick to take someone from this season’s strong QB class and still have enough picks to do some serious work on the rest of the offense.
It isn’t like in past years where we were essentially without picks.
by SkinsOsTerps on Nov 15, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
They can both upgrade the Oline and draft a top QB. It helps that the pick will be such a high one as well. You can get starting Oline in round 2 and 3 no problem. The dropoff from a top of the first round QB prospect to a third round prospect is huge. Got to go QB in round 1.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Of course my whole strategy
involves being unwilling to trade up for Luck. I think we need to hope we end up in a position where one of the top rated new quarterbacks falls to us at our actual pick. If we can’t do that then I’d favor trading back like last year if possible.
by SkinsOsTerps on Nov 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
If you look at the standings
I think they end up with the second or third pick. They are tied for the 6th worst record right now. They lost to carolina and miami, and they will play Minnesota. The rams have multiple games left against bad teams.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 15, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
miami needs to win 1 more and so does carolina
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Yes
I think they’ll win at least one more.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 15, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine all the picks indy could get if we moved to 1 from 2 then they moved down from 2 to 4 then 4 to 10
Thats a ass load of picks
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we should do that!
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15 1st rounders would be epic.
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Imagine all the epic busts from that many 1st rounders.
They do have a 25% chance of failing, so you’re all but guaranteed to get a dud.
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You don't take
A right tackle or center top 6. You can get STUD players at those positions in the later rounds.
We NEED a quarterback. This is the time to do it. I cannot stress enough that I don’t see any chance of Shanny being here long term if he doesn’t get his QB in this draft. Another “piss poor year with Beck or Rex” would seal the deal for Snyder, I guarantee it. But Shanny can survive a(nother) losing season with a rookie QB at the helm.
As for the “9 sacks”, yes, the O line play was horrible that game. But even Shanny admitted that at least half of those sacks were Beck’s fault. We have been without a good QB for so long, a QB who can sense the pressure around him and adjust, that we forget that it’s EVEN POSSIBLE. Did anyone watch the Green Bay game last night? See that TD pass to Nelson in the left corner of the end zone? Notice the protection completely break down, yet the quarterback adjusted, didn’t get rattled, and threw the touchdown? Now, before you say " well it’s AARON FREAKIN ROGERS, look back to our game Sunday. I pointed out that Matt Moore made a similar play when his protection broke down around him.
Quarterbacks, good ones, actually are able to deal with pressure. Some, the best ones, actually thrive under it. That’s who I want. Not another Patrick Ramsey/Jason Campbell. And please, PLEASE no more RexGrossmanJohnBeckTonyBanksJeffGeorgeKentGrahamDannyWoefulShaneMatthewsRobJohnsonTimHasselbackGusFrerotteJohnFrieszJeffHostetler
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by CJHutch on Nov 15, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
+100000
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Nov 15, 2011 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JPage
If you hit the ‘UP’ button, it’ll show you.
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Gotcha, I always wondered what that did
by SkinsOsTerps on Nov 15, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Were you scared to push it cuz you thought it would take you to the Enterprise or something?
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i thought it was actually pretty good
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I could not have said it better...
Anyone who wants to put off getting the QB (later rounds or 2013/2014) has no idea how a winning team is built. Throughout the history of the draft, QB are in high demand. The great QB who were drafted late, were never counted on to be the team’s saviors and the team was just lucky to be possessing them (don’t give me that Bellicheck knew Brady was going to be great, he didn’t and, if not for an injury to Bledsoe, no one would know how good Brady could be). Most great QB were drafted high, which is what we should do with this next draft. You keep trying to get on until you get one…..
WHoa...
I’m not giving you anything about Brady. Don’t like the Patriots, and don’t follow them whatsoever. I guess my point is that Luck isn’t worth trading up for and if we go with a top QB, I wanna make sure he isn’t smashed to bits. Beck makes bad decisions as well as Rex, but a little more than 2 seconds in the pocket can’t hurt them. I swear I was reading about how many great QB’s there were that fell below Luck in the draft on this site a few weeks ago. If we get good O-line drafts and a top QB pick then I’m fine, just wanna make sure he’s protected either way. Also really?….“has no idea how a winning team is built”. You coach on any level other than watching football and playing madden? I never claimed to be man. I know how it’s not though. We’ve been sitting in it for 20 years. Calm down.
But then you have to ask the question of who's coming out NEXT year
In 2013, which QBs will be out for the draft?
If this is the year of the QB, then this is the year to get one. Period.
There are 3 “Top” QBs in the draft, two “Very Good” and one “Really Good who could fit us very well” in this draft. Some don’t like the Very Good or Really Good who could fit us. We are all but guaranteed a shot at one of the top 3, and have our pick of the other three.
All three could go in the first round (although two could slip as far as pick 45 or so, as well, at this point). So what do you do?
I don’t see how you pass on one or the other of those six (caveat: I’m actually not sold on two of the six myself, but others here are). Now, maybe you drop back and pick up an extra second rounder (heck, maybe even a 2013 First rounder, if you trade back to the late first round). That would give you the 2012 First Rounder from some other team, our 2012 Second Rounder, and the other teams Second Rounder, plus an additional 2013 Second Rounder. Would that get people going for Foles? For Tannenhill? For RG3? At least two of those are going to be late first rounders or early second (I don’t see more than 4 QBs going in the top 16, for example). You could then use the two second rounders for OL, if that’s what you want, or OL/CB
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
But then you have to ask who's coming out THE NEXT YEAR...2014...
It’s a vicious cycle
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if we wait till the 2nd to draft a qb
ied rather give up that 2nd round pick for a guy like matt flynn. he is only 26 could be ready to be a big time starter by now. maybe trade back in round 1 get the best o-line that we can with our first pick.. maybe we can get flynn without any picks? isnt he a FA this year? that be awesome to get him and have the first 3 rounds to get o-line plus the picks we get from trading back in the draft for other needs we could very well be the team to beat in the nfc next year….
Regarding #5
YES! I absolutely, positively would. Especially if we can trade back, and we can still get a QB in the 2nd..
QB is by far our weekest position
Rex sucks, Beck sucks. Look at this past year. Newton, Dalton, even Ponder and frickin’ Tebow come in and make immediate positive impacts. Maybe they aren’t going to CONTEND this year but they will be competitive, exciting, and promise hope for the future. You could put a iron wall around both of our dudes and beck would still drop the ball during snaps and rex would still try and play hero ball and make stupid decisions. Watching Redskins games have become not a source of pleasure but a weekly source of pain. Do you all really want to sit around another year watching this travesty of an offense and have the same conversations in year?
The Redskins this year seem to have thrown in the towel (see Mr. Cofield’s “we won’t win another game” comments, something I am starting to agree with) and especially on offense were we look dreadful. We need someone to lead on that offense and get us back on track. We have decent young skill players in Hank, Helu, Davis, but this is a QB’s league and we need a QB to be successful. A QB that the “brain” trust believes in to bring this team back to relevance and up from the NFL’s doormat. One that last note – if Shan and Shan Jr. really ever believed that John “The brother-in-law of mayonaisse” Beck they should be fired and run of town with pitchforks and torches.
by Ron Carlos Jeines on Nov 15, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions
To bad we didn't suck this much the first 4 weeks of the season. That way we could actually know hey were getting Andrew Luck and were stupid if we don't
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I’d rather see this team win rather than tank for Luck, and I hope we pull off some more wins this year.
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wasn't saying tank was saying just come out flat all year like we are now.
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that way we wouldn't of gotten our hopes up too
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Please explain the difference to me?
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If we tank we purposefully lose if we do what were doing now were just bad
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Do you think London is leading the D saying "hey guys I know were bad now but if we lose we'll be good soon"
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No but it's the positions the coaches put them in
Call incorrect defensive formations, run offensive plays that you know will more than likely fail. Not saying they’re doing that but again you don’t know. Kyle has been pretty happy to abandon the run game. Putting Torain who averages 2 yards per attempt in for Helu who averages 6 per touch. Sticking with these two losers at QB. Just sayin’.
by DudleyDoright on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
i think they are tanking it.
and have been since coming out of the bye week…. they seen how bad rex played after the giants game and seen that our very best would get us a 8-8 team. a 8-8 team does not help a rebuild. it hurts it by having to trade up and chace a game changer. by tanking we get the game changer for free.
I think our first pick needs to be a QB.....
and I am one that agrees with the decision not to take one last year….
I also think pick #2 has to be OL. (actually 2 and 3 should be OL, but I am afraid that might be too much to ask). Good offensive linemen should be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Shanny obviously likes getting OL in the later rounds and that is scary. I think the only way we would even consider taking OL with our first pick (at least the only way that makes any sense at all) involves a trade down scenario and picking a 1st round LT and moving Williams to RT.
I think Trent, Licked and Monty are probably already penciled in as starters moving forward.
Trading down opens up all kinds of possibilities.
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Exactly put Aaron Rogers on our team and we are 100x better
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I'm down with either philosophy, but you're acting as if no matter what QB we draft he's a sure thing.
We definitely would be better with Aaron Rogers, but would we be better with Tim Couch? Brady Quinn?
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Didn't say we'd be better with any qb i said with Aaron Rogers.
We need a franchise qb one that has the skillset of a Rogers Ryan Flacco Stafford Newton and Ponder though the book is still out on the ROoks
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Rogers was drafted one pick ahead of campbell...
oh if we could have just made the trade with the packers
I have my ship
And all her flags are a flyin'
She is all that I have left
And music is her name
i heard thats who Gibbs really wanted
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Who Rogers? Gibbs wanted Campbell for sure.
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I thought Gibbs wanted rogers...my mistake...if that was the case we could of taken rogers instead of Carlos then
your right
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Carlos?
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forgot they were both rogers....i just dropped Carlos' last name
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odd i dropped his D to...just call me Carlos from now on
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You know the answer is yes
versus the current guys on the roster.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 15, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
haha that's not the point at all
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You're right
And it would definitely suck to draft a dud. But I would suck to draft a dud at ANY position. Hell, we may have drafted a right tackle #4. If so, that sucks. But you can’t be scared to pull the trigger. Imagine if Jeff George made Indy scared to pull that trigger. Or, more recently, if Joey Hrrington made Detroit scared? If we wanna get to the top, we gotta swing for the fence.
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how could you guarantee that the OL are going to be "a sure thing"...
which has been my point numerous times. The draft is projecting (also known as guessing). Sure, we can all tell who are incredible talents. But how many low picks are great (many) and how many 1st round picks bomb (just as many)?
We obviously need both. But given the projected talent available this next year, and the lack of talent this team has experienced for decades since our last SB team, the QB is the MOST IMPORTANT SELECTION IN 1ST ROUND!!! This cannot be stressed enough. It is a QB league. Not only that, but the opportunities to have one are more scarce than acquiring OL. If you are "Luck"y enough to have one, you are a perennial playoff team, even if your OL is mediocre. I hope we draft QB in rd 1, OL in rd 2 and both are great players. We absolutely need them.
taking linemen in the later rounds?
What makes you think this? In Denver, he had just spent high draft picks on Harris and Clady and rebuilt their line. His first pick here was for Williams. He’s plenty willing to spend high draft picks on the line.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Nov 15, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking it would be very hard to pass on Kalil...
He is rock solid and a sure starter for years to come…
If we go QB, it does look like we might be a top 3-5 pick. The higher up in the draft we are, the better options we’ll have. If Jones is on the board and Griffin is Shanny’s guy, we can take our 1st round QB and trade back and add an additional 2nd rounder which would translate into another starter on this team.
He won't be there, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.
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Ha....we might be #2!!!!
we are seriously stinking it up…
I was in Vegas this weekend and couldn’t bring myself to betting on the Skins (good thing)
Okung was supposed to be a sure thing too
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If it's too early for him
then I think it’s too early for Trent as well. I still think we got the better deal. Okung has been a bit on the injury prone side.
by SkinsOsTerps on Nov 15, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well, to be fair
TW has been pretty injury prone as well.
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Not anymore
Smoking weed keeps you mellow. Your muscles won’t tighten up on you when you get hit. Much like a drunk in a car accident.
Cut Brandon "Stabby" Banks. That is all.
by 64ShagginWagon on Nov 15, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
we didn't resign donte for more than 10 minutes...
before you go making those jokes, you might hurt his feelings
All this draft talk. Man it's Dallas week!
The defense will cause 4 turnovers and score 2 defensive touchdowns. I smell an upset.
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I think you have to go with QB
If we are in a spot for one of the top ones then thats what you take. Oline in 2nd and 3rd(could also be used on CB but would hope Oline) would be guys that could start. Also need to use free agency to fill some holes as well.
For this week only I'm bringing back Hating with H8.
Extra Special edition.
THE TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING DAWN, PART 1 – IN THEATERS NOVEMBER 18TH!!!!!
It has to be for this week only b/c at 4:00 EST Sunday you slip right back in to your banishment
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Well, this week will count as win one of my two win ban.
THE TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING DAWN, PART 1 – IN THEATERS NOVEMBER 18TH!!!!!
Ok see you October 2012!
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I think the Wizards have a better chance of being 5-6 this year
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Hey, Preseason games have to be allowed to count.
So, we’ll see him sometime next August?
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
As self proclaimed Bet Commissioner
I’d like to hear your plea on why preseason games should count.
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Because otherwise, if we don't get a stud QB next draft, he may NEVER come back.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
Is it classified
Or can someone tell me why he was/is banned? Just curious.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Lost a bet
He chose the ban over dressing like a girl
Cut Brandon "Stabby" Banks. That is all.
by 64ShagginWagon on Nov 15, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I would have dressed like a girl, and made it my profile pic.
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Throwitdown said you wouldn't dress like Bella
Fuck why did my wife make me watch that stupid fucking movie? One of the five worst movies of all time. I cried on the inside the whole time.
Cut Brandon "Stabby" Banks. That is all.
by 64ShagginWagon on Nov 15, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
For the 9 millionth time, he was never banned from Hogs Haven
He lost a bet from ThrowItDownBigMan
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Can he double or nothing it?
Something like, he picks the games this week and the point spread… if he gets the spread EXACTLY right on 4 games and he gets the winners right on 10, he comes back? Otherwise, it’s FOUR wins before he comes back?
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
You't have to run it by BigMan, and good luck explaining the concept of point spread to iH8
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That's why BigMan might go for it.
If he’s not too cruel.
But at least H8 would have a chance.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
Man as soon as I hit post, John Lennon started singing in my head...
“All I am saying…… is give H8 a chance”.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
Who is John Lennon? Did you mean John Lannan?
Man you’re old.
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Don't make me use my walker to get up to Richmond and Bitch slap you.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
by BillWard on Nov 15, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
haha
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go get 'im Bill!
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
Hypothetical scenario
Let’s say we are slated to draft 5th. Two of the top three QBs are gone. Cleveland is sitting behind us and desperately wants Trent Richardson because they let Hillis walk at the end of the year. They have two firsts and a second offered to us to move back. We do it pick up the exta first and an extra second. Jacksonville is also behind us and wants Alshon Jefferies. We drop back to their first and pick up their second as well.
So we know have 2 first rounders and 3 second rounders plus 1 third and 2 fourths. Would people be okay with this scenario? And we pick up Matt Flynn as a FA and draft a Foles or Tannehill or RGIII.
Cut Brandon "Stabby" Banks. That is all.
I am completely Ok with this scenaeio....mostly.
I haven’t seen Foles or RG3 play yet, made a point to watch Tannehill and was not impressed. Not at all against trading down, but if we do I like the idea of just filling out the roster and giving Flynn and/or SteveO’s boy (can’t remember his name) a look-see.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
Since I think Shanny would have probably been targeting Foles if we had been competitive this year
I’m REAL OK with that scenario.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
This scenario reminds me of a similar scenario...
So I am sitting at the bar in college and a hot blonde walks up and asks if I want to “get out of here.” Her friend is in town visiting from the set of a porn she is shooting and wants to try out a bunch of “new moves”…assuming I don’t mind working with a bunch of first-timers in the industry. Apparently, an entire sorority has decided that they want to “go pro.” Would that be something I am interested in?
Yeah, I think your scenario is appealing ’64…very appealing.
by Ken Meringolo on Nov 15, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
What year was that? 1971?
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ha...it does sound out of 1971 for sure
too bad I was not even alive back then
by Ken Meringolo on Nov 15, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
bow-chicka-wow-wow
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
Dude, you're describing the early 90s for me.
Before I met the wife.
Except most of them were brunettes, for some reason.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
I will bite...
YES, given that scenario, I would hope that is what they do. If they didn’t, then they should be checked for insanity. If we had our choice of QB, we should take in this order – RG3, Foles, then Tannehill. Acquiring a ton (no pun intended) of OL would then be in order, as well as NT and CB
I'm excited to see Perry Riley in his second start.
And f*ck it, I think Aldrick should get a shot. Hank got his shot and looked money on the field.
THE TWILIGHT SAGA: BREAKING DAWN, PART 1 – IN THEATERS NOVEMBER 18TH!!!!!
It's gonna be
Donte Stalledcareer, not Robinson
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Yep, and just brought him back (Hank the Tanks Roster Spot)
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
It would be nice to solidify that ILB spot. May still need to draft another if Fletch decides to leave
I have my ship
And all her flags are a flyin'
She is all that I have left
And music is her name
Pretty Obvious we're going QB this year
I don’t think there is any debate to be had either, I mean look at our QB’s? This offseason will focus on improving the offense starting with a QB in the first. Not sure what we’ll do with our second pick but it probably won’t go to an offensive lineman. I see us taking a RT in the third instead and perhaps a corner in the second. We’ll probably bring in another free agent guard/center for his versatility but no one worth mentioning as he’ll probably be just average.
It's funny that in all this draft talk of teams we need to stink more than no one ever mentions the Iggles.
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I'm only taking into account teams before us that need a starting QB
Cut Brandon "Stabby" Banks. That is all.
by 64ShagginWagon on Nov 15, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
What if Reid is canned and the new coach doesn't want Vick?
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Reid, no matter how bad the Eagles are this year, is safe FOR NOW.
Next year would be a different story, if they implode again.
But Reid will have a much shorter leash, and he may say “Eff it” himself and retire.
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Vick has a Hayneworth contract. You want to pick that up?
by DudleyDoright on Nov 15, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't hinting at getting Vick at all, read the whole conversation.
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I just said this
To my buddy yesterday. Thought the Eagles would probably take RG3. They have always had the uber-athletic QB’s that give us fits.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
HANK HANK HANK HANK HANK HANK HANK
Enough about Hankerson. All he did this season was ride the bench and get hurt.
Oh, right...
He only had 12 catches for 140 yards in the past 2 games. Yeah, he wasn’t showing ANY potential. Let’s not get hopeful that he’ll do anything next year.
sarcasm off
by The Agent C 83 on Nov 15, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
a lose to us could help the cowboys
if we win another game we lose about 5 spots in the draft. forcing us to trade up. losing picks for our future. they could still make the playoffs. since the lions bucs and falcons are all over rated and losing to good teams. so the boys and bears will get the 2 wild card spots at 10-6
we need to beat the cowgirls
i don’t care how well we draft, i want wins every week. here’s the fix………leave the defense the same or tweek it jus a lil, draft a QB(1st round) then go crazy on FA spending for the Oline and 1 reciever. simple!
I also
am deeply rooting for you to beat Dallas. You’re also ignoring the obvious elephant in the room, which is that the Colts very well may take Luck and trade Manning. If you think that’s crazy, remember Montana to the Chiefs so Steve Young could ascend. Dan Snyder was put on this Earth to pay 7 picks over two years to trade for Manning at 36 years old with possible neck damage.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 15, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions
Hopefully Snyder is bound and gagged in the trunk of a car
…when that deal goes on the table. That is NOT a trade that benefits the long term growth of the team. That is a patented “Win now!” move, which I admit the old administration might bite on. I don’t think (or at least I hope) that Allen and Shanahan wouldn’t regress back into giving up picks for sloppy old seconds.
That deal doesn't go onto the table per se, so much as the trashcan beside the table.
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You're trolling.
Manning has already indicated a while back he would retire rather than allow himself to be traded. And Snyder is an idiot, but he’s not a totally stupid one.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
Bruce Smith
Neon Deion and Albert Haynesworth would like to disagree with you. And I’m not trolling, I really am rooting for you to beat the Cowboys. I apologize if I cause you to realize deep down that this is a distinct possibility.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 17, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
O-Line For me all the way
We have to start winning games in the trenches,
A big NT that would take on double teams with Jenkins coming back would also be nice.
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