Redskins Trick or Treat
by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:17 PM EDT
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In the spirit of Halloween, Kevin and I have put together a Redskins version of Trick or Treat thus far in the season. Feel free to add your own.
John Beck: Trick
Beck is kind of like getting Smarties in your treat bag. He was atrocious in the Hoser Bowl yesterday. We would have a Pro Bowl QB if Beck could hit receivers like he hits his hand on lineman's helmet. I heard Beck tried to get Brian Moorman to trade jerseys with him after the game, for obvious reasons. How many times do you see a QB fumble the ball with no contact....in back to back games? 3-13 teams, that's when.
Tyler Thigpen: Treat
In probably the most positive moment for Skins fans yesterday Thigpen begun warming up and was nailed with a ball in the side of the head.
Laron Landry: Trick.
He's in a contract year and simply isn't contributing like a top 10 draft pick should. He celebrates after opponents get big yardage plays and it's more about the big hit versus the smart play. Just like Carlos Rogers, I'm sure another team will get more out of him while we trot out some veteran retread.
Fred Davis: Treat
Davis is the lone bright spot on the Redskins offensive unit.
London Fletcher: Treat
Could he be anything else? Having London on your team is like scoring a king size Snickers bar in your bag!
Ryan Kerrigan: Treat
Rookie continues to play well, I liken him to a pretty solid Reese's haul on Halloween.
Brandon Banks: Trick
Banks has been very disappointing, kind of like getting an apple from the boring old lady down the street.
Redskins Pro Personnel Dept:
Trick and Treat. Bowen, Cofield, Carriker, Sav Rocca all good. Atogwe, Josh Wilson leave more to be desired.
Harry and Clint: Trick
These guys have led us all astray. I really shouldn't of made those Vegas bets based on their insight. The only worst prognosticator would be if iH8dallas and washingtonwin had a baby together.
Happy Halloween Everyone!
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Landry...
I swear to god, if I have to yell at the TV one more time “WHY ARE YOU CELEBRATING ASSHOLE? IT WAS A FIRST DOWN!”….
These guys aren’t fit to be on the same field as London Fletcher.
by willster on Oct 31, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Did you see him taunt the Bills player when the Bills player accidently ran into Jackson and ended the play?
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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes, definitely saw that
Landry not realizing the reality unfolding around him is becoming a recurring theme.
Maybe we need to trade for his brother. Or maybe Mama Landry can lay the smack down.
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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Parks Smith: Trick
Ever since this guy started making pep rally “Why the Redskins will win” posts he have been losing. The Redskins version of the Billy goat…
You going against the family?
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 31, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thigpen
When the only bright spot is watching a backup qb get bopped in the head, it means that their own team was brutal to watch.
by killianskid34 on Oct 31, 2011 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Thigpen
Did anyone else think the refs were screwing us there? Fitzpatrick was injured and being tended to by the medical staff. When that happens, isn’t the player forced to sit out a play?
Not that it matter much in the end, but still. I feel like we may have gotten shafted there.
Yea I was saying the same thing.
He should have had to go out for a play. I also don’t fully understand the non-10 second runoff at the end of the 1st half.
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That was the other example I was going to cite
Those damn Refs, this isn’t the CFL, eh!
by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The ref said "There was no 10 second runoff b/c the penalty did not stop the clock/play"
So what did stop clock?
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I was out of my seat over that one.
Last time we made a QB sit for one play we got an interception.
Of course we did nothing with it then….and we showed no eveideace that we would have against the Bill’s, but it is the NFL and you never know.
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haha +1
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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What, flat on their back with their legs spread?
Or are you talking about the Golden Girls era Betty White, and not the MTM Show era?
Regardless, our margin of success was VERY thin this year, and revolved around not having many injuries. The Eagles game killed us with the OLine, and the Panthers put the nail in.
What I dread is when we visit the Patriots later in the year; that’s the game that ultimately (but indirectly) cost Sean Taylor his life…. I wanted to nail them so hard, but I’m thinking it’s going to be an even bigger blowout this time.
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
Patriots game is at home
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and it's a long way away......
we have got the 49ers this week….that’s my concern.
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haha
With Trent and Kory out, it’s more like an Almond joy.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 31, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The Messiah
You have to hand to Beck though…just like everyone said, he has mobility. Oh wait…9 sacks. Probably none his fault though.
Problem is, when he does start running a ghost knocks the ball out of his hand.
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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know but I've seen too many times already.
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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
IH8
Other than blaming the coaches…did he have an excuse for the almighty Beck?
by clp5150 on Oct 31, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least he didn't turn around
And look to see if there was anyone chasing him, just before he got to the line of scrimmage. It’s easier to forgive physical mistakes than mental.
But he's mobile!!!
I mean rex is just a statue back there and has the worst hands.
Seriously I almost wonder if Beck has the Redskins defense in fantasy football and says “hey if I fumble it and recover myself that has to count as points, right?”
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I personally take the blame.
I mean, I’m clearly at fault.
by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you channeling your inner John Beck?
“That lose to the Bills this weekend, it’s on me. I’m the guy who decides which channel I watch when the Redskins Play, I’m the one who watches the games. In the future, they are going to acquire some big assets to help out. Nothing about this lose goes on the Redskins. It goes on me. You got that?”
I also take the blame.
I had Beck, Gaffney and Torrain on my FF squad.
And yes, we have -1 for sacks.
Oh dear god. Why would you do that?
I refuse to have Redskins on my team. The last time I had one, Rex Grossman cost me -2.5 points against the Eagles. I still won that week so it wasn’t a total wash.
by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's what I want to know
Does the offensive line look GOOD in practice? I’d like to think we have a decent defensive line right now. Are you telling me the offense comes off as looking good when they run drills against our defense?
A couple of times Brown just threw himself at the rusher’s feet, as if that was going to stop him. Or maybe he just fell down, repeatedly. I saw zero pocket protection yesterday. There cannot be a worse offensive line in football right now.
Everyone says the running game opens up the passing game. Well if our running game is entirely predicated on being able to execute the ZBS, then we are screwed for the year, because this line isn’t going to cut it.
You just have to imagine that Shanahan walks around going
Mmmmm, yeah….that O Line is sexah….
by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of those were attempted cut moves
But I am not defending Brown, nor the GM that brought him here.
I am also in the camp that we need 4 to 5 new offensive lineman for this team.
It is absolute lunacy to go into game day with seven offensive line suited up.
Brandon Banks needs to go, so we can dress eight of them and get that experience.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Oct 31, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I defended Banks all preseason because of his gamebreaking ability. But he has been a regular season disappointment.
Let Terrance Austin return kicks, cut Banks and make room for a spot to bolster the O Line and develop a young Guard.
no that is very true (though Brown did fall over one time)
but Brown has failed to excute the cut block all season. Trent can do it, Locklear can do it, why can’t the former Pro Bowl OT do it?? At this point a cardboard cutout would be more of an impediment than Jamaal Brown.
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There we might get our money's worth
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I think they all
Wear yellow jerseys in practice. With all the guys out, Shanny doesn’t want any more to get hurt.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
Parks You missed one
Ryan Torain: Trick- After amazing everyone by cutting up that tough Rams rush defense, Torain has averaged just 1.55 yards per carry since.
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Hard to blame Torain on this. I don’t think Barry Sanders could do much with this Oline. Defensive plans against us are incredibly easy:
“We’re going to stop the run and we beg you to have one of your terrible QBs try and throw it against us.”
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 31, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Man we need a savior...
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yes but Helu and Hightower fared better in those games
and he just doesn’t make smart cuts. No I don’t expect 100 yard games, but he needs to do better.
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I would argue he has similar speed
You are right about the cutting ability though, tough to argue that one.
yeah i wish, they are just two different kinda backs
I will say if Ray Graham still comes out from Pitt (he just had a knee injury and is now out for the year) the Skins would be wise to use a late rounder on him. Dude reminds me a lot of McCoy, and is crazy elusive.
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Too bad, the Eagles collect Pitt RBs
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It's a trading card game,
If they collect enough then they can summon Emmitt Sanders, the bestest running back ever.
by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen enough of Torain
I’ve been a fan of his up to this point, and maybe he can get it going again in the future, but right now, we need to change something… anything to get this team going, and I think it’s time to see what Helu has. If he doesn’t do a thing, it’s not like that’s different than what Torain’s been doing.
DeAngelo Hall: Trick
Classic stomp the bag of fire and get shit on your shoe trick.
I wished we had traded him when we had the chance this season
but alas, he was injured and wouldn’t have recouped his value.
Plus, Shanahan really likes him
but can we afford
to bring back a guy who has been underperforming, especially when it will probably be expensive to resign him
I want him back
Just trying to see where everyone else was, it feels like it should be a no brainer but he hasn’t looked anywhere close to elite. I think i’ll go with the warming back up argument like you pointed out below
Right
And I’m trying to make excuses. Maybe LaRon just doesnt end up living up to what we thought he could be. But at this point we have a guy at SS who has recently shown the ability to play at an all-pro level. And on a team with as many holes as the Redskins have, you dont just get rid of a player like that
Yeah but those stats were inflated
No Strong Safety should have the number of tackles he did last season. His high number of tackles were indicative of a team with a porous defensive line that allowed every running back to gash them.
Frankly, Landry played well last year, but it’s scary when you last line of defense is making so many tackles.
Because of a crappy D-line that allowed plays to develop
Our D-line is moderately better and his numbers aren’t as high as last years. That’s not a coincidence.
And please don’t say his injuries are still bothering him; they aren’t as bad as what he was playing with last year right before he was deactivated for the season.
What are indicative symptoms of an injured achilles and hamstring?
slower reaction, reduced mobility. He seems to be as fast as he has been when healthy.
Face it, his stats were padded. He is still a good player, but not the all pro we want to believe he is.
To play devils advocate
he shouldn’t be that expensive. He has been injured, and is playing poorly. It shouldn’t be THAT bad
Yeah, but
He ain’t signing for peanuts. He’s got a monkey to feed.
Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
by CJHutch on Oct 31, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
a brand named monkey too
Gucci monkeys are so much more expensive than the monkeys you get at walmart or the kiosk
Don't be fooled
It’s not a genuine Gucci monkey. It’s a cheap knock-off born in a sweat shop that uses child labor.
I don't think he can play safety in this league
He doesn’t have near enough field awareness. If he added 10-15lbs, I would say just move him to will in a 4-3. Too bad we don’t run that anymore…
I think you are too harsh......
a lot of us are. He has his strengths and he has his flaws, and he doesn’t seem to rise to our, very high, expectations of him. He would be a starter on many teams in this league….and we don’t ave too many of those. On the other hand. DHall needs to be sent on his way.
"Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say."-Robert Hunter
Perhaps I am
But I’ve been saying it for years now. Other than his brief flirt with greatness last year, he has been a bust. Since coming back from injury, he just hasn’t looked like the same player. Maybe he isn’t 100% yet, I don’t know. I only know that I’ve been completely underwhelmed by his performance this year.
Orakpo
Treat for his pass rush, trick for his run D. Hopefully I’m not the only one who sees that teams are running right at him.
Yeah
He should definitely NEVER play standing up. If we fire Haslett in the off-season, which I doubt, but who knows, I would like to see us go back to the 4-3. We still have personnel that are better suited for it, particularly Orakpo, Kerrigan, and Cofield. I’m not sure Cofield will ever work in a 3-4. From what I’ve seen, he’s the weakest player in our front 7 not named Rocky. Bowen has looked good, but I think he would do well in both schemes. Same with Jenkins.
But Shanny wants the 3-4
He said on his year off he did a study and decided the 3-4 is the best D ever.
by 64ShagginWagon on Oct 31, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares?
Not me. If we get a DC that has always run the 4-3, you think Shanny will make him switch? Wait, don’t answer that…
actually we don't have the personnel for the 4-3
we have no SLB, and if you think they will run at Orakpo when he is standing up imagine what they’d do with his hand on the ground and he doesn’t have Bowen for protection.
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by Steve Shoup on Nov 1, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but
It would be easier to sign a 4-3 Sam than to sign the pieces we are weak at still in the 3-4 was my point. Clearly we don’t have the personnel to be 100% at either.
well we'd still need 1 DE as you can't have both Orakpo and Kerrigan at DE, you will get run on all day (esp. Orakpo)
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also Carriker (who is an FA) has proven he's not really effective as a 4-3 DT and I wonder if Bowen is the same way
while the move could help Cofield and Jenkins, I think it hurts Bowen and Carriker (though we would probably not bring him back).
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Agreed.
We’ve made our bed with the 3-4. I’d prefer to see a FA NT (with Cofield in the DE rotation and occasional situational NT, same with Jarvis Jenkins), and Neild as back up and a FA ILB.
The high draft picks will goon QB and OL next year, as the rebuild continues.
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by Stephen Beagrie on Nov 1, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would win a Mid-Loss Over-Celebrate-Off between Landry and Davis?
That’s our 2nd half of the season contest? Sigh.
by Old King Clancy on Oct 31, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
Santana Moss still wins that one....
although he had toned down a lot since Shanny came to town.
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