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Daily Slop: Laron Landry Takes Responsibility for 1 TD

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Laron Landry on TD
"It's my fault. I take the blame for it. I bit on the run fake. I take full responsibility."

Redskins Bills best and worst - DC Sports Bog 
Through seven games, the Redskins have had three blocked field goal attempts. Entering Sunday’s action, there had been only 12 blocked field goals in the entire NFL season.

Jammal Brown frustrated by lack of a run game - The Insider 
"It just felt like we threw the ball a lot," Brown said. "But we had to. We were down the whole game. That’s part of football."

Redskins-Bills; DeAngelo Hall’s reaction - DC Sports Bog
Redskins cornerback says the team was ‘embarrassed’ in Toronto, and that ‘it didn’t feel like us at all.’

Redskins vs. Bills: Buffalo shuts out injury-riddled Washington, 23-0 - The Washington Post
“That’s as bad as I’ve been involved with from an offensive side as an assistant or a head coach,” a bewildered-looking Shanahan said after the loss. “. . . To score no points, I don’t think I’ve ever had that since I’ve been a coach — assistant or head coach, college or professionally. So it’s pretty humbling to take that.”

Star-divide

Keyaron Fox fills in for Rocky McIntosh - The Insider - The Washington Post
After losing players to season-ending injuries in each of their previous two games, the only wounds suffered in the Redskins’ 23-0 loss Sunday were of the emotional variety.

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London Fletcher has big numbers in loss - The Insider
Fletcher finished with a game-high 20 tackles, nearly three times more than any teammate. Twelve of those were unassisted. 1 INT, half a sack, and two QB hits.

Ten observations: Bills 23, Redskins 0 | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner
Will Montgomery is not a left guard; it’s not his fault. He was playing much better at center. What can the guy do? He tries hard, but it’s not his best spot. Is it his fault or the organization’s for not having a better alternative when ‘Steiger was hurt? Sean Locklear is a standup guy, but left tackle is not his best spot either.

Redskins-Bills report card | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner
The Redskins were embarrassed on both sides of the ball. Mike Shanahan spent extra time with the defense last week. It didn't help. The offense was just as bad. It was coaching, execution and anything else you want to name.

Leonard Hankerson records his first catch - The Insider - The Washington Post
A week after his first pass route in an official NFL game ended in an interception, rookie wide receiver Leonard Hankerson did better, recording the first catch of his career.

John Beck: Nine sacks, 20 completions, two interceptions, zero wins - The Insider - The Washington Post
"Injuries do happen," Beck said. "It’s part of the game. The good teams find a way to continue to do well regardless of the injuries. That’s our plan, to be a good team."

'It's total BS,' says McNabb | Philadelphia Daily News | 10/31/2011
DONOVAN MCNABB has a message for all those who think he doesn't work hard enough. "Come to Minnesota. Pack up your big jacket and your headwear and come watch me," he told NFL Network's Andrea Kremer in an interview that aired yesterday.

Cowboys under .500 since 2000 | BoopStats | 10/30/2011
The Cowboys are 91-92 since the 2000 season.

Stephen Tulloch sacks Tim Tebow, then Tebows all over him - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Tebown'd.

McNabb: Treatment in Washington was ‘disrespectful and disgraceful’ - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post
“It’s ridiculous. I mean, if you want to solidify your move of going with somebody else, just say hey, he wasn’t playing well, we’re gonna rally behind whoever comes up, whatever. But now when you start to challenge my intelligence, you’re gonna challenge my manhood, everything that I’ve been able to accomplish throughout the years, that’s disrespectful.”

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Nice of Landry to take the blame, but he falls for every single fake.

Anyway, i would like to see Hank, Paul, and Austin more. If they are the future, they need game time.

by getmoneykid on Oct 31, 2011 8:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We can find lots of faults with players...but as I have stated

for the last 3 weeks….our real issue starts with coaching. Our playcalling on offense is scary bad. Unless Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson and a reasonable o-line show up out of the blue, the long developing plays, pass and run, really need to be deleted from the playbook. And he may want to consider running out a few formations the opponents haven’t seen 50 times.

Maybe it was due to new players, and a new qb…but the new QB was their choice.

And remember, the players didn’t want a change at QB. The Shanny’s are now 0-3 with there QB choices (Btw – Beck’s balls don’t wobble much in practice. But in the game he has one of the worst balls I have seen from an NFL QB in a long time. Look at the replay of the interception. It makes me sad, but that is neither here nor there).

Shanahan is about to lose the locker room soon. He is going to have to choose between the team and his son. Sooner rather than later would be a good idea.

by DavidDunn on Oct 31, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

How about the defense is really bad

Cut back lanes were there every single run….set up play action. Once teams start running it on us were done.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive play calling wasn't stellar as well..

And apparently D – Hall concurs…


"That’s a tough question, man," Hall said. "I mean, you got a good seat, just like I do. You know, I don’t go in there and gameplan with the coaches or pick plays and things like that. I sit back there, I get the game plan. I review it, I go over it, I watch film, I try to figure out a way to help us win the game. And ultimately we go out there and we execute what’s called. [Pause] So. [Pause]. I don’t know. I don’t know the answer to that question for you, man, but you can best believe we’re out there still fighting, we’re clawing, trying to get every yard, trying to make every play."

We got outcoached in every facet of the game…

I didn’t see a bunch of missed tackles on those big plays. Just wide open holes or well designed screens taking advantage of Haslett’s aggressiveness…

by DavidDunn on Oct 31, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I agree.

How many 3 and outs did the Offense have? And the D only gave up 23 points. Sure, the Bills moved the ball plenty, but a good team can sometimes score more than 23 points. And how long was the time of posession for the Bills? That has to wear them down.

Last point: even if the D had shut out the Bills, we still wouldn’t have won.

by timith on Oct 31, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate ties.

I think there should be no such thing as a tie in the NFL. Just me personally.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

well a tie basically means..

both teams lose. If you ain’t first, you’re last!

by willster on Oct 31, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not just about points

they kept the ball out of our offense’s hand just as well as our offense kept the ball out of their own hands.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

when is

Noodles Shannahan going to take any blame? Dad can only protect him for so long. He sucks!!

by Wyler98 on Oct 31, 2011 8:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

why cant we

Run from a spread formation or spread the field??. Our offensive formations sometimes looks like giant cluster fu*cks where everybody is waiting for the bong to be passed to them!

by Wyler98 on Oct 31, 2011 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

he loves bunch formations

I saw a series where every play was out of a bunch or tight formation…

I assume it is because Kyle wants room for his receivers to get separation horizontally out of man…but maybe he forgot who his receivers were…

at least mix it up…

by DavidDunn on Oct 31, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could put Jerry Rice in his prime out there

and without protection for the quarterBeck nothing is going to happen.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the league is going to force Buffalo to forfeit for yesterday's game

Fitzpatrick was wearing metal on his hand, which is illegal. AND Buffalo had a Vampire playing, which is also illegal.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

So, as I have been saying,

please, pretty pretty please, draft an offensive lineman or two.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

perhaps I was wrong...

maybe this team’s talent level is some of the worst. Perhaps a QB like Luck could not make such a difference. The last I checked, QB does not play defense. All this talk about what a great FA signings we had this year, with mid-priced talent, seems to have completely been a mirage. Coefield has done nothing @ NT since week 2, and I haven’t heard Bowen’s name in awhile. I am tired of Haslett’s zone scheme for the secondary, with WR finding open spaces, easy for opponent QB to throw to.
Keeping this up, I may just get my wish and have a shot at Andrew Luck. Unfortunately, he will not be elevating anything. The anemic display and the regression this team has taken (nosedive), places us on the – what do we do now? list. I don’t know if anyone, here on this blog or in the league (or perhaps in some TV studio) has any answers.

I saw highlights from the Nascar race, where Kyle Busch left the pits and his front tire came off. Not only embarrassing, but inexcusable. That is where we are. SUCKS AGAIN!!!!! AND AGAIN!!!!! AND AGAIN!!!!!

by jgibbsfan1 on Oct 31, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Check again, if we had an offense that actually stayed on the field for more than 30 seconds then our defense would likely be a lot better
The last I checked, QB does not play defense.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

So many problems...

The WRs are not getting separation, Beck is holding onto the ball like its his first born, the OLine is trying their best to get Grossman back in via getting Beck injured, our Running Backs are needed more for pass protection….so many woes.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beck is holding onto the ball like its his first born

What? Does he drop him for no damn reason?

by PAinfUL on Oct 31, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes you wonder if benching Grossman was premature

the players certainly weren’t for it. For all those folks who say it doesn’t create problems I think we may be seeing an example of it.

Personally I don’t pin much of this on the defense. When you look at the offensive numbers Buffalo has been putting up and see that our D still kept the game in reach until the very end I have a lot of trouble blaming them. They were never going to be elite this year but we went into the half down 13-0 which is still a winnable game. The D certainly was far from perfect but In my mind this loss is 100% on the offense.

by SkinsOsTerps on Oct 31, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

ding ding

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes you wonder if benching Grossman was premature

As a Bills fan, I was much happier to see the Bills going against Beck. Beck had an atrocious game against the Bills when he was a Phin.

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by thefourwinds on Oct 31, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't make me wonder

I said it was the wrong move at the time. Not due to talent, but due to timing and chemistry.

by DavidDunn on Oct 31, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

You don't like starting drives from the 13?

I got HAMMERED for saying cut Banks in the preseason.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Niles Paul or Austin or Anyone, their going to be taking a knee 75% of the time anyways

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

My concern there is hands.

But you’re right. Banks is not working out at all, and doing something is better than going with Einstein’s definition of insanity.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

His hands? He has 100 times better hands than Banks, they both do.

That’s why they also play WIDE RECEIVER.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Malcolm Kelly

Also plays wide receiver. He dropped balls like he was playing Jacks on the sidewalk.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what does that have to do with Paul/Austin in comparison to Banks?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was more a commentary on a lack of data.

I don’t have enough to go on with them fielding kicks, which is typically a little different than catching passes. Also, I would like to point out the above statement of “But you’re right”.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

They did it in college, is that not enough data?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really.

Speed differences, lack of recent experience, going up against pro-calibre Special Teams, etc.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're talking about replacing a low tier KR/PR, not a Pro Bowl QB.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry.

I have high expectations of even role players. As much as everyone loves to harsh on even the “lowly kick returner”, I expect him to be better than most.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying man.

But if you have someone that totally sucks then how would trying someone new not be a good idea? You referred to their “hands” both have better hands than Banks.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

They need to shake up the team.

Cut Banks. Paul returned kicks in college and had a couple of TD’s. I’d rather have it at the 20 than the 13.

I was a HUGE Banks supporter at the outset of the year, now I can’t stand watching kickoffs.

by timith on Oct 31, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not the entire team.

Our front seven on Defense is reasonable. It certainly is better than it has been in some time.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

what lack of recent experience?

Paul and Austin both did it in camp and preseason, and work on it some in practice, not to mention they are only 1 and two years removed from being all-conference returners.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 31, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

One of the reasons they kept Kelly around longer than they should’ve was because of how good his hands were.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Oct 31, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was right there with you.

He is so entirely worthless. I was actually disappointed that he scored that touchdown on Tampa in the preseason. If he hadn’t of done that, he wouldn’t have made the roster.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was with you

Jarvis Jenkins
Kory Lichtensteiger
Tim Hightower
Santana Moss
Chris Cooley
Trent Williams
Phillip Buchanon
Byron Westbrook
Mike Sellers

by Jim America on Oct 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roster moves I would make right now:
  • Cut Banks
  • Elevate Olsen
  • Cut Golston
  • Elevate Worthington
  • Cut Stallworth
  • Elevate Royster
  • Cut Westbrook
  • Elevate Thompson

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

So losing yesterday was Snyder's fault?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

to some extent, yes.

We have no depth because two drafts can’t fix everything. And the lack of talent is partly Snyder’s fault.

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by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, losing was mostly the fault of the Offense.

But I’m perfectly willing to admit that I’m still bitter over the last decade of mismanagement that allowed a team known for strong offensive lines to degrade to the point that we have.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Snyder finally is giving us what we have wanted all along right now

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

A rebuild

why are people so quick to forget we are rebuilding?

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

B/c it's not being presented as a rebuild and people had unrealistic expectations for the season.

Those of us that saw us going around 7-9 or so, think we’re right on schedule.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy I preficted 4 or 5

1 of them being against the 49ers
1 being against the bills.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 9:57 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Right now

I’m still sticking with my projected one more win against the Vikings.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't have unrealistic expectations...

I would have been happy with 8-8. What bothers me is NOT EVEN COMPETING!!!! I can accept a loss when the team showed effort. The Dallas game is a great example. I didn’t like the loss, but we were competitive, holding their offense to 6 FGs. I can live with that.

This NON-EFFORT is unacceptable. The regression is unacceptable. It leaves fans with no idea what to root for.

by jgibbsfan1 on Oct 31, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's seriously the Giants fault...

if we hadn’t beaten them in week 1, our expectation of 8-8 wouldn’t have been elevated to a trip to the superbowl

by ptowny on Oct 31, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

A rebuild means there are signs of improvement

There isn’t. Do you see rebuilding (with the end result a winning team) with the status quo? I don’t. We are not rebuilding correctly.

by killianskid34 on Oct 31, 2011 11:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

There are signs

the defense is vastly improved. The LT and LG when healthy are good. Davis is improving.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

All good points,

It also seems that the young WRs come up when needed the most, I didn’t rewatch Hankersons TD drop, was it a drop or was it a helmet on ball situation? Either way Paul and Austin are preforming when asked to as well, we just don’t have a legit #1 to attract more attention.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure on Hankerson

the NFL.com gamebook calls it a “breakup” by the defender.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was not a drop

It was a really good defensive play

by 64ShagginWagon on Oct 31, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't blame Snyder on this one.

The coaches have to call plays that fit the personnel on the field, and that is something they did not do.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you were boycotting all things Redskins related?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll start in a little while.

I have to vent first.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you lied to us?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's Monday morning Parks.

Must you start with me right now?

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, it sucks to be lied to early Monday morning, hurtful really

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry baby.

I’ll never lie to you again.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

...

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by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

channeling my inner Parks there.

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by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What personnel?

We’d be bad in a scab league.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I will be happy if it is allowed to continue.

He’s a mercurial personality, and until he calms down for a while, I have only his history of “Hmmm, not working RIGHT NOW, must fire everyone and try to win now.”

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

And how would that help?

they simply lack the personnel to be good. There isn’t a coach in this league who could make this a good team. The offense right now is short 3 starting WR’s, 5 starting O line, a starting RB, and a starting QB. Basically, they only have 1 starting caliber player on O right now. No coach is going to fix that.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd keep

Westbrook over Barnes. At least Westbrook is useful somewhere.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Oct 31, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Such a pathetic performance.

Shanny Jr. needs to go. Where was the running game?

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Injured

Along with the rest of the OLine. Without a reasonable line you just aren’t going to get anything going against that kind of defensive showing.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still solidly in Kyle's camp

I think he just needs a QB, a few more pieces on the line, and a big play receiver.

If he still can’t get it done with that, I’ll gladly lobby for him to be removed.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Please yes

Pleasepleaseplease

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Oct 31, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're witnessing how much of an impact Jarvis Jenkins would have made if he wasn't injured

The run D might be five times better.

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by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

That game was bad

The offensive line was getting abused but I honestly did not see a single man winning his battles that game. Not a single one consistantly at least.

You can’t playcall around that offensive line. The screens got blown up, the runningbacks were hit 5 yards in the backfield or had to run around it. Our d got abused and honestly, it was a team loss all around.

I will say this, playcalling was NOT the reason we lost that game. There is no magic bullet that will put the skins out of their miseary. Hunker down.

I’m going to log off for the day because I know the rest of day will just be:

Fire _

Cut _

Sorry, no easy fixes in nfl land.

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by Al_CaPWNED on Oct 31, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm with you. I'm boycotting all things Redskins this week.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with your overall sentiment, but there are still roster moves that should be made.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Team loss all around?

Really? Did you see Sav Rocca punting the shit out of that ball? Man, our punt game is beast, best free agent pickup this offseason.

by Jornek on Oct 31, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think everyone needs to chill out

We have all been lobbying for our team to rebuild. Everyone knew this was going to be difficult and that we’d go through these growing pains. It’ll take another draft or two before we will have a solidly competitive product on the field.

We need to all collectively take our lips off the barrel and realize it will take time. We’ll get there, though.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I’m with you on this. It’s why I think all the talk of mortgaging the farm for Luck is so nuts, assuming such a trade even ends up being possible. We need to approach this draft the same way we did last season. I do think we should try for a qb but I also think we need to consider trading back for more picks whenever possible.

by SkinsOsTerps on Oct 31, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You forget

The Colts are sucking harder than a nuclear-powered vacuum.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But the dolphins are looking pretty competitive each week

If they put a full four quarters together every once and awhile, we might just pull into second place…

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Dolphins do put them together.

The third and fourth quarter of one game to make it look competitive, and the first and second quarters of the next game just to tease everyone. Four full quarters, all in a row.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but I still could see us pulling an upset or two just to ensure we don’g have that spot. My opinion is that the pick is going to the Colts and they’ll draft him to sit behind Peyton for a year or two.

by SkinsOsTerps on Oct 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which, while bad for the 'Skins,

…is the best possible situation for Luck as an individual. I can think of few people better to mentor him.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting tid bit

Many of the sports analysts said that the colts would not draft luck, saying that is an insult to Peyton who should be in win now mode, trying to get one more ring, and a first round pick should be a starter not a backup while Peyton could use a key piece.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

That just makes no sense to me...

Why should it be an insult, when not two years ago people were saying that the trend of starting QBs as rooks was just asking to fail.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton knows the business, I doubt he would take it as an insult.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't know if Luck would tolerate sitting for a year or two though

take this with a grain of sult because if comes from florio, but PFT ran an article about how Luck wanted to play for a team close to Morgantown, WV.

Maybe he forces a trade… who is the closest team with a QB need to Morgantown, WV? Any guesses?

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steelers are the closest team and that's a bunch of BS.

I’m sure Luck would jump at the opportunity to learn from the greatest QB of all time.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Washington is likely the closest. It's like 3 hours to Morgantown.

But like I said, that’s incredibly stupid.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea you did? Should I have not responded?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

No your comment was justified.

I’m just clarifying to make sure it didn’t appear as though I was coming up with the conspiracy theory.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just as an FYI, Steve Young asked Luck where he would like to play and said
"Whatever team relocates to Morgantown, West Virginia, where my parents live."

I’m sure it was a joke, until PFT got a hold of it.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard that the Colts,

wanted to move in the middle of the night again…

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Were you asleep for Flacco's 2nd half yesterday.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on...

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm here to help,

with the post-OH GOD WHAT IS THIS FOOTBALL GAME I DON’T EVEN-Mondays.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Trent coming back will make a difference in the running game.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

See ya next Monday! Have a nice week!

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

PEACE!

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he wasn't coming back for a few more weeks...Right around the time Twilight comes out

You’ll have a tough decision that week: watch the Skins play or see Twilight for the fourth time…

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well it never fails.

The Skins have once again done it to me. Every year my optimism is set into overdrive, then they suck the life out of me; leaving just a shell of a fan, waiting for the next beating.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Look at the positive

Now that you have accepted reality, if something fun comes up on a sunday, you can go do that.

They’re rebuilding. My forecast of two more wins might be too optimistic.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet we beat the Niners on Sunday and optimism is restored.

I also bet there is a players only meeting this week.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Why have you been banned from prognosticating already?

If I may, I will guess the score you will predict for this week: 34-17

Did I call it or did I call it.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why are you hating on me?

You act like other people were not predicting 23-20 or some score like that.

Don’t take your frustration out on me.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, you just tend to really make ridiculous predictions.

Oddly enough, your record is same as the redskins this year. 3-4.

Plus 34-17 seems to be your standard prediction.

I’m not made or trying to pick on you, it just seems like you can be a bid excitable when it comes to making your scores for the week.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Who gives a f*ck?

Why would you put any merit into my predictions anyway?

If I was any good at it I would work in Vegas.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're in the hole

Why are you complaining? Unless you didn’t properly vet the young lady first?

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's what she said

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What causes the popular belief that you are Jewish?

Do you wander around with a Star of David on your shirt or some such?

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

It’s an inside joke from Camden Chat (the other SBN blog I frequent).

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no room to joke,

I’m a Mariners fan, but aren’t the O’s mathematically eliminated two games into the season each year?

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey hey hey

It’s three.

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by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies,

it was rude of me to not remember the Rule of Three. Whatever you do, the Orioles will be mathematically eliminated in three games.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

but like you said...

you really shouldn’t be talking. The Mariners suck too.

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by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yet this is more exciting?

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

For what? To tell DHall to shut up?
I also bet there is a players only meeting this week.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

That's certainly one bullet point that should be covered.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

West Springfield Spartans OUTSIDE LB #47
HTTR

by SpartanFS47 on Oct 31, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

There was a reason I said draft Chase Minnifield last week, and DHall keeps making me feel better and better about each week

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade DHall for a bottle of jock itch powder

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weak Points

Secondary
Offensive Line, outside of maybe Williams depending on how injury prone he is in the future.
QB
RB
WR

I’m thinking we should trade back in the draft and pick up a herd of work-a-day players.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Will Trent be back this week? Santana for Miami?

If TW back, put Hurt at LG, Monty back to C, maybe Locklear or Smith to T

by Donnio1234 on Oct 31, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

You're benching Brown?
maybe Locklear or Smith to T

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Bench him

and when TW returns put Locklear over there and move Hurt to LG, Monte back to center, bring up Willie Smith, cut Banks and Donte.

What other Oline do we have on the practice squad? Just saw the Giants signed Capers to the practice squad on October 4. Hey I know we cut him, but he played in our system for two years. Can’t be any worse.

by MAJSkinsfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody notice that

Chad Rienhart was on the Bills? I did not know that, he had a couple good blocks too

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only hope for the Oline

is for Williams to come back, put Monty back at C, and find a starting LG out of thin air. Moving Monty to LG made two positions worse. But I don’t see a magic LG appearing…

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although a large part of our offensive woes were due to players who lack talent, part of our problem was due to poor player selection for plays.

Examples

The end around for Stallworth??? They should’ve used someone faster who could turn the corner – Armstrong, Austin or Banks.

Running the ball to the outside with Torain??? Torain is a smash mouth down hill runner. Going to the outside is not his strength. Any stretch plays should’ve been handed off to Helu.

Bomb to Stallworth (who tripped)??? It was obvious that play was called for Stallworth – but why? He’s not that fast and doesn’t have great hands (or great feet). Horrible receiver choice for that play.

"If a man speaks and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong???"

by ThuGodfather on Oct 31, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

First of all

I freaking hate end arounds. They work like 12% of the time. Second of all, why attempt that as the second play of the damn game? So worthless.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

question marks: Use one at a time. More than one at a time and they get angry.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of college QB talk last week, and many said they were tuning in this week?

I’m curious what everyone thought?

Luck?

Barkley?

Tannehill?

Griffin?

Let me know if you tuned in. I’d be interested to hear everyone’s opinions.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw Tannehill

he looks unpolished, but has a ton of upside. Big kid, knows how to run. I think he’d fit well in the offense, but I’d rather have Landry Jones.

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I keep trying to like Jones, but the few times when he's faced with pressure he makes terrible decisions, IMO.

Crazy Tannehill had to throw like 55 times Saturday.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Living on the Best Coast,

…And being a huge Pac-10(12) fan, I think that both Barkley and Luck acquitted themselves very well this week. That was, as a good man says, a Slobberknocker, and neither QB collapsed under the pressure in my opinion.

Both seem to be able to tolerate pressure, both seem to have strong decision making skills, Barkley seems to rush his passes a bit, and Luck seems to rely on his OLine, but I’d not cry lava if either was drafted by the Skins.

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not nearly as high on Barkley's game as most people were

his numbers were greatly influenced by the overtimes and he was highly inaccurate on the move…give me Tannehill or Griffin.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 31, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Griffin was getting hammered by scouts this week.

Many were saying he’s a project and not worth a 1st round pick.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

i haven't watched his whole game yet, but from what I saw he wasn't that bad

I think he needs to sit, as does every QB not named Luck, but his upside is off the charts.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 31, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one getting tired of the fans on here that constantly harp about one thing being "the problem"?

The fact is that this team needs a serious overhaul on offense just like the defensive paradigm shift we got this offseason. After that, we need another year to address the lack of depth on both sides of the ball.

Jarvis Jenkins
Kory Lichtensteiger
Tim Hightower
Santana Moss
Chris Cooley
Trent Williams
Phillip Buchanon
Byron Westbrook
Mike Sellers

by Jim America on Oct 31, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by Parks Smith on Oct 31, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

there were too many holes to fix in one year. Shanahan can’t have a press conference and say it, but this year is simply a rebuilding year, and no one should expect anything more.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone mention this to Dan Snyder

I worry he is getting his pink slips ready and may be willing to eat the cost of Shanny’s contract

by mbedner on Oct 31, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not

we’ll see. Shanahan is on record saying he told Snyder that this would take five years. Snyder is on record, and others have reported, that he is enjoying the team a lot more now that he is less hands on. Just have to have patience.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can see it now...

The Redskins win the Super Bowl, and Snyder skulks back through the Plains of Rohan stroking his ring, “My precioussss, my precioussss….”

by Xin Baixiang on Oct 31, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

we should all write letters to Snyder begging him not to fire anybody for the next 3-5 years

What I thought in the beginning of the season was, we needed a QB and this rebuild would be about done….

What I now realize is we’ve only just begun this rebuild

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with you.

I hope we can give Mike his five years to turn it around. Sad to say for London, don’t see him on the field at 40.

by MAJSkinsfan on Oct 31, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah :(

Everybody keeps saying 5 years what if in 2 years the team is good and in the playoffs, The next year would be mikes last? Or would he stay to try and win a championship and go over the 5 years, or does he just want Kyle to get the job.

If Mike turns this thing around…him and Bruce Allen need to stay and keep making our draft picks for us.

by jbh1190 on Oct 31, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying Mike is gone at 5 years

Saying Shanahan told him it would take 5 years to rebuild the team.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Shanny easily makes it the whole 5 years

He told Snyder if you hire me this is how it needs to be. I think Snyder bought it. Word is Danny worships Shanny.

by 64ShagginWagon on Oct 31, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hope even Snyder knows doing that might be the final nail in the coffin for this team

I don’t know who he could get to come coach if he did that.

I do think Shanahan needs to be given the length of his contract to right the ship. The rot goes a lot deeper than I think most of the fan base and media are willing to admit to themselves. Personally I’d be surprised if we have a single player on the roster drafted (by the Redskins of course, this doesn’t necessarily include FA’s) before 2009 by the time this team is a contender.

by SkinsOsTerps on Oct 31, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Davis will still be on the team.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 31, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care is Washington drafts a qb or not

because job 1 this off season is to, at minimum, upgrade the right side of the line. Newton wouldn’t be having the kind of season he is having if he didn’t have a good oline in front of him.The fact is, a very good oline can be constructed in 2 seasons through draft and FAs.

by hambonejackson on Oct 31, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

The line has been ignored for years…continues to be ignored and we get the same results. At least 5 new linemen need to be brought in for next season to start and provide depth

by StephanHart on Oct 31, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So TW should benched or traded?

I think he’s had his hands full at LT with all of the other holes, I’d be more than happy to move him to RT and draft a LT, but not send him off the team completely!

by ptowny on Oct 31, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one said that

he also said depth.

Jarvis Jenkins
Kory Lichtensteiger
Tim Hightower
Santana Moss
Chris Cooley
Trent Williams
Phillip Buchanon
Byron Westbrook
Mike Sellers

by Jim America on Oct 31, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

read it wrong...

“5 new lineman need to be brought in for next season to start…”

AND PROVIDE DEPTH

by ptowny on Oct 31, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I think Trent is doing just fine. But we need upgrades at RG and RT, thats 2 starting spots, and then we bring in 2-3 players who can compete and provide better depth.

by StephanHart on Oct 31, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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