"Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics" The Good,The Bad, and the Ugly On Offense
This week I wanted to do something different and look at the Good, the Bad and the Ugly for every positional group on offense:
Quarterback: The Good: John Beck might not be tremendous, but he does offer something Rex Grossman does not, and that is his ability to scramble. Beck's touchdown run against Carolina was a perfect example of this, as Jamaal Brown whiffed on a cut block, which allowed Charles Johnson to chase after the quarterback. If not for Beck's foot speed that play ends up as either a sack or an incomplete.
The Bad: John Beck is not the answer. He might be a stopgap quarterback, but it is quickly clear that he isn't 100% ready right now. He's now fumbled in each game (recovering one on his own), and the interception and the ensuing debate showed a lack of leadership.
The Ugly: With a poor offensive line, and injuries at both TE and RB, the Redskins are one hit away from having Grossman start again, with nothing behind him.
Running back: The Good: Roy Helu, has quickly developed for a mid-round rookie and has been the Redskins most explosive running back. He has under 40 touches for the year (which should go up quite dramatically), but has been pretty productive when touching the ball. He has a 4.9 YPC average, and an 8.0 yards per reception.
The Bad: Tim Hightower meant more to the Redskins than his rushing and receiving yards. He was by far their best pass protector, and displayed the heads up ability to save two return TD's this year. Him missing the rest of the season is a body blow to Washington.
The Ugly: Against the Rams, Ryan Torain had a 'coming out party' where he rushed for 135 yards on 19 carries. Unfortunately since then he's disappeared managing just 17 yards on 12 carries (against teams that at the time ranked as the 31st ranked rush defense in the league).
Wide Receivers and Tight Ends The Good: Fred Davis is having a great season for the Skins, with 28 receptions and 423 yards. His 15.1 yards per reception lead the team (by a pretty wide margin) as do his 200 yards after the catch. Nearly half the yards that Davis picks up are what he does after catching the ball, which is very impressive.
The Bad: Santana Moss and Chris Cooley, have been the heart and soul of this receiving corps for some time. There loss is going to mean a lot more attention gets paid to Fred Davis.
The Ugly: Anthony Armstrong was somewhat of a breakout player last year, and was supposed to be the Skins deep threat. So far this year though, he's not been too impressive. He has just 5 catches in 13 targets and has dropped 3 passes. While he did miss 2 and a half games, the Redskins need to see more production out of their 3rd receiver (esp. since Moss and Cooley are out). Armstrong for all his speed just hasn't been too effective this year.
Offensive Line: The Good: Chris Chester was pretty bad the first couple of weeks this season, but over the course of the last three weeks he has turned his play around. After giving up a combined 10 QB hits and pressures through the first 3 weeks, he's only given up 3 in the past three games. His play isn't great by any means, but he is finally showing average to above average play, and on this line that is something.
The Bad: Kory Lichtensteiger was playing fairly well at LG to start the season, but he is now out for the year with a serious knee injury. Trent Williams has improved from last year, and has the most natural talent of any Redskin lineman, but he too is sidelined for a couple weeks due to injury. These injuries have forced another Redskins to play somewhat out of position, and to rely on a pretty thin depth chart.
The Ugly: For as bleak as the Redskins outlook looks at LG without Licht or LT without Williams, it is rosy compared to the picture at RT. Jamaal Brown, who was given a 5 year $27.5 million deal this offseason, and he has rewarded the Redskins with leading the team in sacks, hits, and pressures allowed. As if that wasn't enough, he also leads the offensive linemen in penalties (Trent has the same number, but it is easy to give him a pass for the dead ball one against the Eagles as he was protecting his teammate). Run blocking hasn't been much better for the Redskins, as despite having a makeshift left side of the line the Redskins favored running that way all game against Carolina.
Steve Shoup has been a Redskins fan his entire life and dreams of the day they get back to the glory days of his youth. In addition to his regular piece on Hogs Haven, you can find his daily writings at Fanspeak.com.
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What's the timetable for Williams' return again?
by Dammit Cerrato... on Oct 26, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
I've heard different things
My guess is he will miss the next two weeks, which sucks b/c they need him against San Fran
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Ahem
the interception and the ensuing debate showed a lack of leadership.
http://www.csnwashington.com/10/24/11/Beck-Blame-INT-on-me/landing.html?blockID=582074&feedID=6458
by TheDeepBall on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
did you see his reaction after it happened? and even in that interview.
He was far from the most supportive
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by Steve Shoup on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what?
Are we watching the same interview?
“We’re very excited to have him on this football team. Ge’s going to be a great asset. Listen, nothing goes on Hankerson, it all goes on me, you got that?”
Yes
but when asked a follow up question, Beck said simply “Done” http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/10/beck-accepts-blame-int
Beck showed up Hankerson on the field, something you wouldn’t see from the majority of starters in the NFL (can’t vouch for Rivers or Brady since they are pricks)
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by Steve Shoup on Oct 27, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've seen qb's do it all the time
The tv wont always show it but sometimes they do. I saw flacco screaming “WHAT IS YOUR ROUTE???” just monday at someone. You had a nice zoom in on his face for that during the game
The Beat Box aka skins secondary.
that is true, and I meant to say rookie WR's
I understand Beck being frustrated, but you handle that on the sideline and in the locker room and you teach him. Of all people Beck should understand that considering how long he’s been riding the bench.
I know people criticize Grossman for ‘blaming’ Fred Davis, but Davis took that blame and did admit that he needed to be better. And on the field throughout the season you saw Grossman communicate with his receivers better than what I’ve seen Beck so far. Now it could just be comfort level, or what not, but I didn’t like the way Beck handled that.
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by Steve Shoup on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it will be something to watch for sure
I like seeing some anger and fire, even if its misguided, hopefully he can channel it in the right direction. Having played on a team with a qb that bitched you out every time you missed a block..It does suck. heh
The Beat Box aka skins secondary.
Completely agree and said this earlier this week.
Berating a rookie receiver in basically his 1st play was bush league. I understand emotions, but this guys “leadership skills” have been touted more than any other facet of this game.
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Thank you Deepball.
Someone got John’s post game interview mixed up with Rex’s post gamers. Beck took all the responsibility. The only reason he mentioned Hank was to defend him because of the heat Hank was getting. Best example of leadership on that side of the ball in a long time in my opinion.
He didn't immediately, it took him awhile.
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he read a prepared statement the next day that Shanny probably told him he had to read to keep his job
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by Steve Shoup on Oct 27, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We can put this in the Ugly too:
The Bad: Santana Moss and Chris Cooley, have been the heart and soul of this receiving corps for some time. There loss is going to mean a lot more attention gets paid to Fred Davis.
It’s really UGLY that Santana Moss and Chris Cooley have been the Redskins best weapons for the last 6 years on offense. This is just a testament that this team really needs to upgrade at WR in the offseason, or seriously hope that the young WR’s that were drafted in 2011, really step it up. Another 5 years with no offensive weapons, will surely doom whoever takes over at the QB spot in the future.
John Denver was a musical genius
yeah it was pretty tough determining between the 'bad' and the 'ugly' in most categories
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I wanted to comment on Armstrong
Yes, it’s been ugly, but you could see that AA was a work in profress last season. Yes his numbers looked ok, but if you go behind those numbers, you will see an inconsistant WR, who DOES NOT have good hands(I can’t remember the last time he caught a ball cleanly without a bobble), and goes down without contact(ala Clinton Portis). This guy is so one dimensional, it’s not even funny.
I also believe some of the troubles he’s had this year as a deep threat, is that Grossman simply couldn’t get him the ball deep. Defenses new this, and they were able to adjust accordingly.
I said this last year, but if AA is/was considered to be our #2 WR, we were going to be in trouble. He is a reserve/#4 at best in this league.
I’d much rather see a WR corps consisting of Hank, Paul and Austin(even if they are young and prone to the occasional mistake), than one of Moss, AA and Gaffney.
John Denver was a musical genius
no i agree Armstrong is a 3 on a bad team, a 4 on a good team and lucky to be a 5 on a great team
unfortunately he’s looked like none of that on this team. His dropped balls have been killers, and he just isn’t getting open as much overall. I’d rather see Paul, Hank and Austin step up, but I think we’ll see a lot of Armstrong and Stallworth until Moss comes back.
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Yeah, I agree
I’ve never been a hugh fan of AA, even while most on HH were ready to annoint him the next coming(of what, I don’t know)
John Denver was a musical genius
yeah i didn't mind him as a cheap option
but i was quite glad they added Hankerson and Paul, and even Gaffney
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by Steve Shoup on Oct 27, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember it quite different. I remember him having some pretty amazing catches last year, and typically not getting many yardsafter the catch because he was virtually never hit in stride. He would have to come back for McNabb’s deep balls and would have to dive for a number of his other catches.
This year is a different story, but last year I thought his hands were great.
by RobtheRedskin on Oct 27, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he dropped a couple last year (more than you'd expect from a starter)
the real issue last year was he didn’t have great body control, he had a couple of balls where he caught on the sideline, only he wasn’t able to get both feet down, or those that he did, he couldn’t stay in bounds and run down the sideline.
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by Steve Shoup on Oct 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Nice post Steveo!
John Denver was a musical genius
by Tiller56 on Oct 27, 2011 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Tiller
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I thought Jamaal Brown was awesome?
someone’s been telling me that since week 15 last year.
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by smutsboy1 on Oct 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll admitt to being wrong
and as of late(last 2 games), Brown has not looked good. I do think he had some good game this year though.
John Denver was a musical genius
how are you judging torains performance behind a half absent o line?? he got 10 touches in the PHI game (when the Oline initially was lost) and just 2 touches the following game (Carolina)… give him his 20 carries before you go and decapitate the man…
and u say helu is the good? based on what his 2 carry performance for 3 yards against PHI?? his 1 carry performance for -1 yards against CAR?? his 5car for 15 yards against DALLAS?? let me guess, his 8car for 35 yards against ST. LOU?? Torain might have something to say about ST. LOU… what you think?? no, i know… his 10car for 74 yards against ARI?? hard to say what torain woulda done since he didnt touch the pill that game.. and i know goodness well your not refering to helu’s 1car for 2 yards against NYG….
and the torain hate continues………….. que sara sara…..

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