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by CptChaosSidekick on Oct 17, 2011 3:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

I don't know, having a guy named Mo Hurt on your team is pretty good sign.

Or as Keim calls him: Pile Mover Mo

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by Parks Smith on Oct 17, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

No word on QB means....

Beckalicious.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions

Jammal at left tackle and Locklear at right tackle will be fine.

I think Locklear was the highest rated pass blocking right tackle in football last year.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions

yes and Brown one of the worst, so him moving to LT is a disaster

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Ever thought maybe

Just MAYBE Brown is better on the left side? I’m not saying its so, but that is actually what he said last year.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

He said it this year too. Worth a shot.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 17, 2011 4:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Yep

At least worth holding out hope. Who knows, maybe he even outplays Trent.
(Hey, if you’re gonna hope, may as well go all out)

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, he's a natural LT, hated the move to RT

by Donnio1234 on Oct 17, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

he hated the move due to money

he’s not a natural LT at all, and was converted into one with the Saints.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

But made the Pro Bowl

I know that doesn’t mean much, but it shold count for something. I mean, Stephon Heyer ain’t in danger of ever making a Pro Bowl.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

but that was pre-injury

he hasn’t been the same since (with the exception of his high penalty rate). There really isn’t a track record of guys being better LT’s than RT’s, esp. not when they are noticeably slower.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I think a lot of that had to do with money also

the top LT’s in the league make between $8-10 million, while the top RT’s between $5-6.5 million a year. He wanted to play LT because that gives him the prestige. I didn’t see any teams trying him out at LT this offseason, in fact there really weren’t any other teams that seemed to be actively in the market for his services on the right side as well.

Brown was an All-American RT in college and spent his first year in the NFL on the right side. I think pre-injury he was a good LT for the Saints, but I don’t see him being able to protect the blind side with as much ground as he gives up.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Also...

Beck did get a couple first team snaps during the BYE week.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 17, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions

Via Rich Campbell

Shanahan on Moss’s plea for Rex to remain the starter:

“That’s exactly what you want. You want players supporting your quarterback.”

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by Parks Smith on Oct 17, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions

As usual, Shanahan is just stringing words together, that ultimately mean nothing.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Refresh my memorey when Quarterback A was benched last year and QB B came in, which one started the next game?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 17, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Two totally different situations.

Quarterback A was a six-time Probowler who the Redskins were paying a ton of money.

This is a vert different circumstance.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

So who started the next game?

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by Parks Smith on Oct 17, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

McNabb did, but I don't know what you're trying to prove.

Are you trying to get a A-HA!!! EXACTLY kind of thing?

Like I said, totally different.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

All I'm saying is that it's not a given that Beck will be starting.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 17, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree

I could totally see Shanny sticking with Rex. It would be the wrong call, but I could totally see it.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I can't see it at all.

McNabb never had a game that was that bad. Not even the Detroit game.

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

We'll see

I’m not predicting anything. I won’t be surprised either way.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

My thoughts exactly. I hope the team gets some consistency soon. I’ve had enough of being the NFC laughingstock. I’m a teacher and the Redskins’ fan is hard to come by because the young ones just chase a winner. Doesn’t bode well for the fanbase for the future.

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by caps&skins on Oct 17, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Shanahan has not decided yet - just like he says

i’m a little surprised at Santana’s comment. I had assumed Beck would be the starting QB, but now I’m not so sure.

by Donnio1234 on Oct 17, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Couple of thoughts on Maurice Hurt from someone who watched him for years in college…

He’s great at pulling to the edges – but struggles once out in space against a LB or S.

He is strong going forward – not so much going backwards.

He can play multiple positions on the line if needed.

Horrible balance.

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by FlaGators on Oct 17, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions

My man

I’ve been looking for you. You know what I’m looking for. Don’t take this wrong, I’m not trying to be a dick (not right now, at least), I’m just curious what your take is on the QB situation. Do you still think Rex has what it takes, or did yesterday’s game sway your opinion at all?

Again, don’t think I’m looking to “call you out”. I just want YOUR opinion. There are a few other Rex supporters whose opinion I’m not the least bit interested in, if that counts for anything.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s all good. No worries.

But yeah, I’ve long thought that Rex has gotten a raw deal in the NFL. But I also think that ever since his last year at UF, he hasn’t looked the same. Due to the switch from Spurrier to Zook as head coach.

Rex can be alright. He is never going to be Tom Brady good, but with our lack of a running yesterday it made matters worse. The Eagles, knowing we had to throw it were able to pounce on that aspect. We couldn’t run the ball to save our lives. We became one dimensional and the Eagles feasted.

I think that Rex has it in him to guide the ‘Skins to an 8-8 season. Give or take a game either way. I don’t think he is downright horrible either. But he’ll have a game like he did yesterday every now and then. Guys like Brett Favre, John Elway, Dan Marino, Steve Young…etc., they all had bad days.

A few of Rex’s INT’s this season haven’t been his fault at all. ‘Tana Moss had one bounce of his chest and get intercepted. Two of them in yesterday’s game could have been prevented if the receiver had some situational awareness.

I’d give Rex another game or two to see if he can still get the job done and then switch to Beck. But just remember, there is a reason why, until yesterday, that Beck hasn’t really played since 2007. The ‘Skins weren’t the only team that thought he was back-up or 3rd string material. Also note that his touchdown drive came in borderline garbage time.

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by FlaGators on Oct 17, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

HOLY FU*K!

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by iH8dallas on Oct 17, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I appreciate

Your candor, and your fortitude. I disagree with everything you say about Rex, but I respect your opinion. Trust me, I know how you feel. I used to campaign for us to give Shuler the job back in the day. Not because I was a huge Shuler fan, just because I didn’t like Frerotte.

Now, I TOTALLY agree with you on Beck. I was hoping he’d get the starting job during preseason, but I was never under the illusion that he was gonna be anything more than a stop-gap.

Being a “Rex guy”, you may not like this, but I stick by what I said in the preseason. I couldn’t get too worked up over the QB competition because, as I said months ago, it’s like choosing between a Yugo and a Pinto. They both stink.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh I said on here in the pre-season that I thought Beck should have won the job. That would have solved all of this “issue” but the fact remains…

Grossman is more experienced.
Grossman was with Kyle in Houston learning the offense.
Beck hadn’t played in years.

So while I figured that Grossman would win the job, I thought that Beck probably earned it more. But in the end it doesn’t matter, because they are both a one or two year guy at the most anyway. Shanny will find his QB soon.

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by FlaGators on Oct 17, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Re: Heath Shuler, it’s funny. My father used to scream at the TV for Heath Shuler to come in the game because he thought Frerotte was a moron. As it turns out, it never really mattered.

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by FlaGators on Oct 17, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

You're fathers

My kinda guy. I was always on an island with Shuler. I really thought he had what it took. Coming in late and getting on the fans’ “bad side”, coupled with Frerotte being mildly capable as a 7th rounder ( not to mention being Sonny’s guy), all were contributing factors in Shuler fighting an uphill battle here. Now, I admit, he obviously wasn’t strong-willed enough to overcome an of that, but I still think the actual talent was there.
As for Frerotte, he hit his ceiling in very fast, and never got better. It’s not as if he was ever particularly horrible, I just knew we would never go anywhere with him. I was right.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, that about sums it up. I think that Shuler did have a lot of talent, but like you said, he just couldn’t get passed the other stuff it takes to be a QB. Grossman is kind of a like a poor man’s Frerotte in that sense.

You aren’t going to be 4-12 with him at the helm, but you aren’t going to be 12-4 either. Always in the middle. Which is why I said 8-8, give or take a game each way.

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by FlaGators on Oct 17, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Shuler had a horrible arm

I remember a bomb he threw for about 50 yards and the ball was thrown so high I swear it nearly scraped the bottom of a 747. I knew then he was toast.

by hambonejackson on Oct 17, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not gonna

Spend a bunch of time defending Shuler. He was a consensus top 5 pick at that time. Honestly, I wanted Dilfer, only because I had seen his 500+ yard bowl game performance. But everyone knew Shuler was the more athletic of the two, so I wasn’t disappointed with the pick. Shuler was Peyton Manning in Tennessee before Peyton Manning. I really thought he would be out first “Franchise” quarterback. Well, first since Sammy Baugh.

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by CJHutch on Oct 17, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Spurrier to Zook?

by Donnio1234 on Oct 17, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

When Spurrier left UF to come to the ‘Skins, Zook became the head coach. Grossman, as a redshirt-sophomore was runner up to Eric Crouch for the Heisman Trophy. Grossman should have won it, but back then, they didn’t award the Heisman to sophomores. Even though Grossman was a junior in the classroom.

Zook, took an All-American, Heisman runner up, All-SEC First Team, AP National Player of Year….

And totally ruined him. It was like what Spurrier put Patrick Ramsey through, only much, much … much worse.

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by FlaGators on Oct 17, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Since Mo Hurt is coming off the PS most likely a permanant fixture on the 52 man

who should the Skins bring onto PS?

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They’re in first place with good lb’s we’re on last place with rat shit lb’s
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by PAinfUL on Oct 17, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions

Might bring Nate Ness back, or probably a OL we've never heard of.

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by Parks Smith on Oct 17, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought about Ness being a possibilty

but was curious who the posters thought would be an intriguing addition, that is if a ps player can be considered intriguing.

"Pretty sad
I think rocky is their worst lb.and yet he would easily be our best.
They’re in first place with good lb’s we’re on last place with rat shit lb’s
I think there is a correlation there…" courtesy of BGN with special thanks to Saidrick

by PAinfUL on Oct 17, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Is there any chance that they can trade for, or sign as a FA, any decent O-lineman?

by Donnio1234 on Oct 17, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

there are a few vets out their on the FA market but most coming off injuries so they might not even be ready

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Garrett Chisolm T/G from South Carolina would be my choice

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Well he would definately fit into the high character mold.

"Pretty sad
I think rocky is their worst lb.and yet he would easily be our best.
They’re in first place with good lb’s we’re on last place with rat shit lb’s
I think there is a correlation there…" courtesy of BGN with special thanks to Saidrick

by PAinfUL on Oct 17, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

def. he's a great story who unfortunately suffered a bad injury that killed his draft chances or ability to make the team (he missed nearly all of camp)

I’d love to give him a shot. I think anyone who has overcome what he has, has the work ethic we want on the Redskins.

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I think anyone who has overcome what he has

I really don’t know how well I would of reacted in that instance.

"Pretty sad
I think rocky is their worst lb.and yet he would easily be our best.
They’re in first place with good lb’s we’re on last place with rat shit lb’s
I think there is a correlation there…" courtesy of BGN with special thanks to Saidrick

by PAinfUL on Oct 17, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

i agree i don't know how he does it

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 17, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

this is for you CJ : )

~~would of~~ would’ve

by PAinfUL on Oct 18, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Well for you and for my reputation for being mostly literate

by PAinfUL on Oct 18, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions

In my opinion Rex

has gotten progressively worse this entire season. I admit some of his picks weren’t his fault but most of them were. I just don’t understand what he’s seeing out there. Piss poor decisions and the offense just isn’t capable of compensating for them.

In this instance, I think the Eagles gameplanned against the run and wanted Rex to beat them in the air which clearly NO ONE believes he’s capable of doing. Add on to the fact that he runs like molasses and again, makes poor decisions then too.

That’s, IMO, the secret to success against the Skins. Make Rex beat you. I don’t think he can and the Eagles proved it.

The question is can Beck play better than Grossman? At this point, I don’t think it matters cause teams will continue play the run until Beck can prove otherwise.

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by MagicHat on Oct 18, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions

a lot of that had to do with the offensive line

until the injuries the left side was the side Grossman always rolled too, despite it forcing him to take longer to get his body set since he is right handed

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by Steve Shoup on Oct 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions