Another Horrid Dan Snyder Inve$tment Story Arises: Golden Globes
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST
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PrintIf you're not familiar with Dave McKenna, a journalist for the Washington City Paper, let me fill you in on two things. First, he absolutely hates Dan Snyder (so I always read his work with an extra few filters up), and second, he is a fantastic writer that I wish I had 5% of the skills of.
As we all know, Dan Snyder's Red Zone Capital company purchased Six Flags and tanked it. What you may not know is that Red Zone and Six Flags jointly purchased Dick Clark Productions (dcp) in 2007 - presumably with money that could have been used to keep Six Flags from going into bankruptcy. That's not what the juice of this story is. The gist of it is that dcp (I don't know why it's lowercase, but it is) and the Hollywood Foreign Press Association have had a TV deal in place for the Golden Globes since around the time when Jesus died that the HFPA and the TV company split the profits 50/50. Well, things naturally changed, reportedly, when Snyder's company took over.
I suggest you read the whole thing, but here's some highlights of the Hollywood Foreign Press' lawsuit against Red Zone Capital:
"In fact, dcp did not even notify or consult with HFPA before entering into the NBC agreement, in marked contrast with all prior extensions of the NBC agreement," reads the suit, filed on Nov. 17 in a U.S. District Court in California. "Rather, dcp proceeded in stealth...In short, dcp granted NBC a broadcast license for rights that were not dcp's to grant."
It gets worse...
HFPA alleges in the suit that after learning about the NBC deal it has also discovered that dcp has been peddling various digital media rights to the Golden Globes -including a deal with Facebook -that Snyder's company never even discussed getting from the association.
The allegations of infringement and bad faith dealing listed in the complaint contain numerous charges that "dcp was acting at Red Zone Capital's direction and under its control."
So, who has more pending lawsuits right now? Haynesworth or Red Zone Capital??? Obviously, before we all go blasting Snyder, it would be nice to hear HIS side of the story.
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What more & more people are realizing is that Snyder isn't even a good businessman
in fact he’s failed, repeatedly
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
failed is a stretch
and this is just a complaint. we need to read his answer before rushing to judgment.
but yeah, snyder ain’t no Warren Buffet
by John Park Williams on Jan 20, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Being a good businessman doesn’t mean you have to be liked or a good person. He obviously did some things right to get to where he’s at now. Everyone has some failed investments.
"You're fucking out!"
'being a good buisnessman' can mean a million things
for Snyder, it’s doesn’t appear to mean he’s innovative, sharp or a good leader.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I have been a self-employed entrepreneur for about 15 years.
I have about 50 wineries as clients. There is not one of them that hasn’t come to my aid in some fashion since my illness.. One of the reasons being is that I’ve always treated my customers like I wish to be treated. I’ve cut them slack when they had cash flow problems, I’ve done work that I wasn’t really contracted to do and generally trying to make hiring me an excellent experience for my customers.
I bet you there is not one Redskins fan (other than those who inhabit the Swedes) who thinks Danny is really going out of his way to make going to a Redskins game has awesome as it could be. If he could get away with it, he would charge for use in the toilets.
Moral of the story-just because you make money, doesn’t make you a good man. A "real businessman" knows that if you don’t play everybody straight, that crap will come back to bite you hard. The time will come if it hasn’t already, that karma will even out again.
You’ll then see Danny flipping burgers or wearing a clown suit at McDonald’s
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
I bet you there is not one Redskins fan (other than those who inhabit the Swedes) who thinks Danny is really going out of his way to make going to a Redskins game has awesome as it could be. If he could get away with it, he would charge for use in the toilets.
I disagree with that, it seems like there have been many strides to improve FedEx over the past couple of years. I like the new video boards, I like when there are some in the parking lot, and I find it a lot easier now to get in and out of the game.
The biggest problem is FEDEX FIELD SUCKS BALLS! And Snyder had no say in that, its all on Jack Kent Cooke. Its a cookie cutter, slab of concrete stadium with no character. The fact that its in Maryland really sucks. It has the largest parking lot in the NFL and the public transportation blows ass. Look at the other stadiums built around the time of FedEx. Carolina, TB, Baltimore, Cleveland, Denver, Cincy, Pittsburgh! They are all really cool stadiums with some character and are centrally located in downtown areas. Snyder got left with a turd when it comes to the stadium and there is really nothing he can do about. But I do think he’s the ticket to building a really cool stadium back in the District and you know it would be pretty damn extravagant and awesome, I doubt he would half ass it.
Agree with you that FedEx Field sucks balls
And that that’s not really Dan’s fault. But I do kind of feel he has drug his feet on doing what he could.
Now if Danny boy manages to get a proper stadium with character built back in DC where it belongs, with usable public transportation, then that would be one huge step in proving to me that he isn’t the complete prick that I judge him to be now.
That does come with a caveat however-he can’t screw over anybody to get that deal done. It has to be a win-win for all sides involved.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't lay it all on JKC either
If I remember correctly the city refused to work with the Cooke’s at all when they wanted a new stadium and that’s how it ended up where it is.
by SkinsOsTerps on Jan 20, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Thats fine, but he still built a 1980s dumpy stadium when it could of been state of the art...
Like the others built in the same time period.
Perhaps, but cities are under no obligation to give private teams money for their private profits
you know?
there isn’t a single conclusive independent study that’s been done that shows that it’s a net gain for cities that give money to build stadiums.
Anyway, just a side rant.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
my favorite dan snyder fuck you has to include:
1- suing the elderly season ticket holder on fixed income for not being able to afford season tickets when the economy collapsed
2- charging fans a “gate” fee for WALKING to the stadium (from the metro) because they can’t escape the parking fee
3- …add yours here!
by les boulez bomber on Jan 20, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions
charging fans a "gate" fee for WALKING to the stadium (from the metro) because they can’t escape the parking fee
Where is the gate fee accessed? I feel like its pretty easy to walk onto FedEx “grounds”
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
it was short lived…immediately protested and PGC made him stop…or he stopped before they made him
by les boulez bomber on Jan 21, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
it was early in his tenure…years ago…somethings you just cant forget lol
by les boulez bomber on Jan 21, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Try going to FedEx in a wheelchair
I dare you. Nationals Park is more than accommodating for those of us on wheels.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Daniel Snyder is lucky fucking retard
He hasn’t made a goddamn dime on anything but the redskins since the dot-com bubble burst, and it doesn’t take any brains to make money on an NFL team in a non-super-depressed market like delmarva.
Sell the team Dan!! or just go die you fucking asshole
live pleasant
by eastcoastatlas on Jan 20, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions
this off-season will go a long way with my stance on this franchise
I’m not wasting my time with another decade of futility & mismanagement.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yea right! Do you know how many milkshakes he sells at Johnny Rockets?
He hasn’t made a goddamn dime on anything but the redskins since the dot-com bubble burst
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I actually remarked the other day while driving by the Johnny Rockets near Georgetown
I have to go to clinic about every six weeks and pass by their right around lunch time. It has huge windows on both corners of the building and I swear on a sixpack of Guinness, there is not a single soul ever in that building-I’ve actually thought it was closed sometimes.
Has anyone ever been there? Are there hamburgers really anything to talk about? As far as burger chains go, I’ve always liked five guys
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I've actually been there plenty of times
my then-girlfriend loved it there because at night (I think only on the weekends) they do some strobe light show thingy.
I’ll swear by their milkshakes, the burgers however don’t compare to Five Guys. Don’t even get me started on the prices…
Damn, I spent a lot of money on that girl
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
So I guess they're more of a nightspot
And don’t do a lot of lunch business. That would explain why they are empty when the other two restaurants right across the street are packed full at that time.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Basically
the only one I see doing brisk business during the day is the one in Pentagon City.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
There's one in Atlantic City
Never ate there, but had some customers.
You know
in my young life, I’ve never been to Atlantic City. The wife keeps begging me to go.
Did you ride past at night or during the day?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
There is one on Melrose Ave in LA where I live
It is busy year round for lunch. THey have a nice patio area. You will NEVER catch me there with in-n-Out here!! also theres the Habit, the Counter, Fat Burger.. And if you want the best burger ever, go to My Father’s Office in Santa Monica!!!
Last time I went to Five Guys I was on the toilet for hours...
It was a great burger but haven’t been back since. It may be time to test it out again, this was like 4 or 5 years ago.
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
You should
I just recently (about a year ago) started getting into Five Guys because of a friend of mine. I don’t do it often because of the same reason you mentioned (quality time on the throne) but when I feel like treating myself and know that I have free time later on I go for it haha
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
+1
No, it hasn’t really changed, It happens to me too. If you want a colon cleanser, eat a five guys burger and their fries… I’ve had it a couple of times in the past two years. Same results. It’s the Toxic grease they use to fry the burgers.
Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly think it's the fries that do it
the bag shouldn’t be see-through by the time I get home.
Haha, the first time I ever went and I saw them just scoop a bunch of fries into the bag after they already put the container of fries in there I actually told the guy, unless that’s free I’m gonna need you to take every single extra fry out of there.
Friend was embarrassed, guy at the counter laughed and asked me if this was my first time there.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Well people think the one in Richmond is the 2nd coming of christ or something...
Their food isn’t bad at all.
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well maybe Dan ought to focus on restaurant franchises then
Seems like a lot of people are happy with Johnny Rockets. And I too also love a well made milkshake.
But sadly I cannot go, I boycott anything to do with Dan Snyder except the Redskins.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I also forgot to mention-
A lot of Johnny Rockets profits came from being the official restaurant of Six Flags. If you think that sounds ridiculous, did you know that Six Flags underside or his leadership also had unofficial mattress supplier?
The article above refers to standard and Snyder practice. Sneak in the back door, pretend like you’ve been there the whole time and then sell all types of marketing agreements back to other companies for kickbacks.
There’s nothing new here, go back and read how can acquire the Redskins in the first place-probably why Ian Shanahan get along so well-they’re both smoke and mirrors, and bull crap communicators.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
haha this was a pretty funny voice software mess up
Ian Shanahan
I assume you said “he and”
A lot of Johnny Rockets profits came from being the official restaurant of Six Flags.
Just curious, do you know this as a fact or just speculating? I’ve never even seen a Six Flags and I’m sure there are a ton of instances where there are Johnny Rockets outside of a Six Flags marketplace.
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Only Six Flags I know of
and have ever had the displeasure of going to was the one that accessible by Metro in Maryland.
I’ve never seen a Johnny Rockets in there before.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I go to Magic Mountain on occasion....
It was going to shut down, but the city saved it. It’s just o.k.
In February 2007, it was announced that Red Zone Capital, the private equity firm of Daniel Snyder, was set to acquire the chain. Snyder announced plans to expand the chain both within the United States and worldwide, including the launch of smaller outlets known as Johnny Rockets Express.
A sit-down type restaurant which is owned by Six Flags (in which Red Zone is the largest shareholder), Trappers Adirondack Grill, was converted into a Johnny Rockets in June 2008.
LAKE FOREST, Calif. (May 30, 2007) � All-American favorite Johnny Rockets has opened six new restaurants in Six Flags theme parks to date, to rave reviews and with more to follow. The current locations include Six Flags Fiesta Texas (San Antonio), Six Flags Great Adventure (Jackson, N.J.), Six Flags Hurricane Harbor (Arlington, Texas), Six Flags Magic Mountain (Los Angeles), Six Flags Great America (Chicago) and Six Flags St. Louis. The new locations are part of a strategic marketing partnership with Six Flags, announced in March 2007, which calls for opening 26 Johnny Rockets locations in Six Flags parks over the next three years.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why did they change the name from Trappers Adirondack Grill?
It sounds like everyone would be dressed up as lumberjacks and they would serve beaver nuggets.
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Because he sold the rights
If there’s a hamburger joint in that park, it has to be a Johnny Rockets.
Now that he’s been booted out, I doubt that is the case anymore.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Using the following link - http://www.sec.gov/edgar/searchedgar/webusers.htm - there were two Red Zone listings
CIK************Company **********************************State/Country
0001381310 RED ZONE CAPITAL PARTNERS II LP VA
0001301723 RED ZONE LLC ***************************VA
by Jefferson1935 on Jan 20, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Six Flags Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: SIXFQ), the world’s largest regional theme park company, has made Anatomic Global’s eco-friendly memory foam Ecomfort the official mattress of the flagship hotel property of Six Flags.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Johnny Rockets...
also has an exclusive deal with Royal Carribean and is on (I believe) at least three of their boats.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like he's been eating there a lot lately too...
That is not a flattering picture of him up there
Oh, and every researcher of Dan Snyder should start here
http://www.thebeerbarrel.net/showthread.php?3836-The-Cranky-Redskins-Fan-s-Guide-to-Dan-Snyder
Lots of these things are easy to verify without digging, the rest take a little bit of independent research and you’ll find very little exaggeration in the post.
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Kevin - I'm glad you put the warning - to not rush to judgement
It’s not a good idea to take sides in a lawsuit. There are undoubtedly two sides to the story. I suspect the lawsuit will be thrown out, or, more likely, settled cheap. After all, it basically just says dcp didn’t consult them about a deal (which was probably a good one), but I’d bet that there is nothing in the contract that says they have to. Further, the HFPA doesn’t show any harm. And even if dcp jumped the gun (before the contract expired), it probably wasn’t Snyder’s doing. Sounds more like Shapiro, the same clunk that ruined Six Flags.
Snyder is a deal maker and idea man, much like Trump and Turner, and there are going to be some big misses, but also some big wins. It doesn’t mean Snyder is stupid or crooked. But on pure brains and instinct, I just have to wonder about Dan’s ability to judge people – trusting Shapiro, Cerrato, and his long time PR guy (can’t remember his name, but he must have flunked out of the Gary Condit school of public relations), and, of course, hiring Jim Zorn. I have also often suggested that he is not a good manager, not good at details, which makes it all the more important to hire good people. He’s maybe seen the light with the Skins, by hiring Shanahan and Allen, and possibly bringing in better admin people. One thing would be a disastrous sign: if Mark Shapiro ever got any kind of job with the Redskins – I think I’d become a Bears fan.
by Donnio1234 on Jan 20, 2011 1:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, what great "ideas" has Snyder had?
Since his 1 great idea (college spring break travel agent 20 years ago) all he’s done is find investors to give him money and invest in mediocre enterprises.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I knew you were Going to show up at some point to try and clean up Snyder's mess
.And just like before you blame Schapiro. If Shapiro is such a slapdash scumbag, why the hell does Dan keep him in his employ?
I know you always like to take up the other side, but trying to defend the side by always blaming Schapiro or Cerrado, or laughably compare Snyder to Trump and Turner (that’s such a big reach that even a man made of rubber could not accomplish it)
there is just article upon article upon article about a very shady character. If it walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck and it smells like duck crap well then what you have Sir, is a duck.
I know you’re not the only Dan Snyder apologist, but I would like to see just one of you point to anything concrete that supports your theory that Dan isn’t an underhanded, crooked, and/ or stupid self-centered human being.
Everybody bashes on all these ex-Redskins that bash on Dan Snyder-well it isn’t only ex-Redskins players it’s just about anybody who’s had the displeasure of having to do business with this man.
Why do you think there is so many people who think Dan is a bad man? Isn’t it just possible that he did truly screw over each and every one of them? Can you find me one person who will go on record as standing up for Snyder other than Jerry Jones?
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do you think there is so many people who think Dan is a bad man?
Because WE DON’T WIN, probably about 99% of the fanbase doesn’t give a shit about his business endeavors. If were winning then people would like Snyder. Also, Snyder has been one of the more proactive owners and less bitchy in the CBA.
I mean we’re stuck with him, he’s not going anywhere, he knows the public sentiment… So really, who cares?
I care-"Because WE DON’T WIN"
And I think I can make a strong argument that Dan is the reason why we don’t win
ipso facto-we won’t win, until this man is gone.
And I still have hope, that one way or another he will not own this team as long as we all think he will. My best bet, is that the other owners will have him removed when at some point in the future he crosses a line bigger than he should have.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
My best bet, is that the other owners will have him removed when at some point in the future he crosses a line bigger than he should have.
Hahaha what does he do to piss off the other owners? He’s probably one of the most liked by his peers. What would he do to cross the line? He’s bitching about the CBA like Jones, Richardson, Kraft, and Bowlen. And think about it, if the owners were ever going to kick someone out then how is Al Davis still around? And also think about this Snyder makes the NFL a TON of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and that’s the bottom line for the owners.
Danny isn’t going any where, your on a witch hunt now if you ever think the other owners have animosity towards him. Sure I put the blame on him, but I’m also hoping that he has learned from his mistakes and this regime will get it right.
Yes, everything you say is true-and my scenario is almost pure fantasy
Rex fantasizes about feet-I fantasize on how Dan will fall
you wouldn’t take that away from a guy would you?
And no, I’m not that weird-most of my fantasies involve women
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I almost forgot-"He’s bitching about the CBA like Jones, Richardson, Kraft, and Bowlen"
That’s kind of ironic isn’t it?
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 20, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I’d actually like to hear Donnio’s far-fetched response as he always finds silly ways to get out of being proved wrong.
Scientists believe that the first human being to live 150 years has already been born. I believe I am that human being.
Wrong about what?
Snyder keeps getting richer and richer despite some failures – like Trump. Trump’s Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt, and it didn’t even slow down “The Donald”. These entrepreneurs just keep pushing. Just the operations mentioned in this thread are rather impressive. Even Kevin’s lawsuit story shows how Snyder’s team is aggressively trying to make money (If I read it right, the HFPA isn’t saying dcp did anything stupid, just that they are being shut out of the profits). The article says the contract was due to expire soon after the deals were made, so dcp might have made a mistake in timing, but it mainly looks like a case of seller’s remorse by HFPA. In any case, I leave it to the courts, and let Dan’s lawyers fight it out. Just generally, I think Snyder buys businesses and hires people to run them. Some may be a little heavy handed.
On the old lady who went to the press with a sob story about season tickets: it must have been at the business level, the people selling tickets. Snyder is above that level, basically setting policy. At some point his admin guy may have asked what to do about people who don’t want to buy the tickets they contracted to buy, and I suspect Dan would have said (as I would have) something like “sure, go after them, this is a business, not a charity”. Sue them? – sure, if they don’t have a good reason for not paying, but only if necessary and there’s a chance to get the money. He probably would have said to be reasonable – if they can’t pay, just forget it – don’t sweat the small stuff. A lawsuit is sort of pro forma, the lady can ignore it if she loses and really doesn’t have any money – small claims don’t, on their own, have any enforcement mechanism (I won once and didn’t get a dime). Ideally, she would have managed to talk to the Admin guy and convinced him that she just couldn’t pay, and most guys would at that point given in, just said, “sure, forget it”. Why that didn’t happen, why she went to the press – I don’t know. But the case doesn’t say anything about Snyder personally. Some of his people could be a little ruthless, but that’s not unique – just think of the poor suckers who owe the IRS. Life is tough – if you sign a contract, you better be able to comply with it.
I just don’t understand these Snyder haters – a waste of time. He is what he is, he wants the Skins to win, and is willing to spend a lot of money to do it.
Sorry, I would have to label this as a fail
I asked for concrete-you gave us mud bricks. Everything above is pure conjecture. Everything offered up on the other side has multiple people willing to attest to the fact.
You haven’t produced one such person-your defense of Dan Snyder centered solely on people you describe as below him. Either you completely buy into the concept of deniable culpability (and no decent human being does in my opinion) or you have no idea what it means to be in charge of employees.
I could tell you right now that if any of these men worked for me, they wouldn’t have made it two months before hitting the bricks-hell, they probably wouldn’t have been hired in the first place.
I don’t understand how you can think that Snyder is not responsible for the people that he hires and works for him-if he is not, who the hell is?
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's the latter in Donnio's case.
He’s naive more than anything. Snyder does the hiring. He makes the last call. Simple as that.
Scientists believe that the first human being to live 150 years has already been born. I believe I am that human being.
This is a great story!
Snyder won’t win me back until he consistently demonstrates over several years that he will cede & delegate most, if not all, executive authority decisions regarding personnel & scouting to Allen & Shanahan, but I like that you didn’t just cite a few paraphrases & torch him, it would be too easy. I can’t wait to read the full story on this claim & what Red Zone Capital’s response is!
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jan 20, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions
Till Death do us part....
That is the outcome when it comes to Danny boy trying to make good for the Redskins organization!
and how many multi million dollar businesses have you put together Kevin?
or any of you for that matter?
haha. I've never thrown a pass in the NFL but that sure a shit won't stop me from criticizing a QB
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I have put together one, I see no reason to do any more than one, it is successful and stable
Greed is not a good thing.
And in Snyder’s case, he’s had to put together a few new companies because he drove a few others into bankruptcy or other troubles.
Those of you who think Snyder is a good businessman because of the money he has or makes are truly naïve. And you won’t know this, until you’ve been out there running your own business and having to choose who you will do work with. If any of Dan Snyder’s companies were my last chance to stay liquid, I’d declare bankruptcy.
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jan 21, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
HogsHaven.com’s value is up $144 from last year…so now it’s worth $149….I’m on my way. I’m not sure what me being a multi-million businessman has to do with anything. Have you read Richard Branson’s book on his rise from nothing to billionaire? He had several failed ideas that left him penniless…but he didn’t trounce on ppl and backstab on the way to get there.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 21, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Where can I send the check to buy you for $150?
I’m going to make you the Ma’ake Kemoateau beat writer.
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