Redskins Show Interest in QB Jerrod Johnson at East West Shrine Game Practices
Alfie Crow, the lead editor for SB Nation's Jaguars website, Big Cat Country, has been attending all the practices for the East West Shrine game in Orlando, FL, this week. Crow sent an email to all the SBN bloggers listing all the teams and their interests, and I noticed the Redskins were not paired with any names. No joke. This is how the email chain went.
Me: I know the Redskins are there. Are we in stealth mode??
Crow: Saw the Skins talking to Jerrod Johnson, QB from TAMU... who's been awful. Most of the Skins scouts were old guys hobbling around. Kid you not.
Steelers blogger: haha, thats funny. I believe it. There's a reason the skins are miserable and it probably has a lot to do with scouting.
I mean. Come on, Redskins. Anyway, let's talk about Johnson. He's 6'5" - 245 lbs and was a Heisman hopeful after his red-hot 2009 season where he led:
- Texas A&M to the Big 12 #1 offense
- Texas A&M 3rd in total offense in the Nation
- Johnson's 3579 passing yards was 8th best in the Nation
- Set Big 12 record throwing 242 passes without an INT (60% completion percentage)
Johnson, who underwent arthroscopic surgery on his throwing shoulder in the off-season, began the season as a Heisman Trophy candidate.But he struggled at times with his accuracy and seemed to have less zip on his passes than in previous seasons.He threw nine interceptions in a three-week stretch that led to his demotion. Johnson conceded Monday that coming back from the surgery was "a little bit" harder than he anticipated but he did not regret the decision to have it.
Johnson's three losses this season were to big names schools: Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma State. The teams he beat were small name schools. After his benching, the Aggies, led by QB Ryan Tannehill, went on to win out beating Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Baylor. I haven't watched a lot of Johnson, but his highlight reel, which is by no means a way to judge a QB, shows a lot of bootlegs, play-action and throws on the run. McNabb, Cutler, Plummer anyone?
Jerrod Johnson is currently slated to be drafted in rounds 5-7.
East West Shrine game is this Saturday at 4pm at the Citrus Bowl (NFL Network).
Oh, and if that mention of our scouting team didn't discourage you, then how about this tweet from Rich Tandler:
The last player that the #Redskins drafted after the third round to make a Pro Bowl was Stephen Davis (4th round, 1996).
NINETEEN F*CKIN NINETY SIX??? (I just repeated that in my Principal Ed Rooney "Nine Times?" voice)
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If other teams determine his injury won't affect him......
he may be gone before the 5th round. Going to be interesting to see what round he actually gets picked. If the Skins end up liking him they may have to trade up to get him being that we have no picks in the 3rd and 4th.
I think there would be no way he would be gone before the 5th.
His arm strength sucks, he’s not accurate, and his intelligence and decision making has been seriously questioned. He probably barely cracks the Top 20 QBs available in this draft.
He can come aboard as Mr. Irrelevant or as a UFA, but burning a meaningful pick on him would be sad at best. We currently have a QB that isn’t accurate in #5, and a QB that lacks arm strength in Rexy. Why intentionally go for someone that combines those two attributes AND throws in the whole poor decision thing?
what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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by CarverM on Jan 20, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i wouldnt read too much in it...
Just kicking the tires…
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Johnson has been a fascinating guy to watch...
But for being such a huge guy, his arm strength absolutely sucks. To say he is a project would be an understatement.
I really want to get a good look at Enderle from Idaho. I would be more willing to draft him late, he has a really good arm.
The Redskins showed interest in JaMarcus Russell too...
Who would you rather have b/w Jerrod and Jamarcus?
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Would you rather be kicked in the balls with my left foot or right foot?
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
right
I assume you have the aim of gano and will miss.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
To his credit,
Guano always struck the ball with his foot. So long as the holder gets it down, that is.
If this is your way of saying you want to hold my balls u can forget about it.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's saying he's trying to split your uprights.
Just saying.
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Hmmm, I know we need Wide Receivers, but the guy got benched halfway through the year.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Look, I know the housing market is down, but the sky is blue.
by CarverM on Jan 20, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The point is the guy is a terrible QB, he's been projected to be a WR.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I think he runs about a 4.5 40 Yard Dash.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
wait nevermind, more like 4.6
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, because we need another Tight End... sigh.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm, I know we need Wide Receivers, but the guy got benched halfway through the year.
So he’ll fit right in!!!!! #McNabb
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 20, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Bob Barker Voice: Come on down Jerrod Johnson! you've just gotten a chance to fail! #true story.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Tricks
i dont think they are serious about this guy,they might just want the mock drafters to stop saying we are takin scam newton!
Look on the brightside,we got a 4th round in 2012 for jason campbell n we have all our picks still,should be a nice draft!
by BurgundyNGoldKillinIT on Jan 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Pat Devlin
I’d like to see the skins address a need other than QB in the first round and perhaps make some moves to grab QB Pat Devlin out of deleware later on. He’s one of the top QB prospects for the NFL, however, he’s slipping down draft boards because he played for Delaware.
He’s one of the top QB prospects for the NFL, however, he’s slipping down draft boards because he played for Delaware.
What draft boards is he slipping on? He has been soaring up a lot of boards after leading Delaware to the NC and has had some positive reviews out of E-W practice.
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Deep QB class
Also this is one of the deepest QB draft classes I can recall, so I’m not sure we can really justify snagging one in the 10 spot.
It's all smoke and mirrors IMO
Also this is one of the deepest QB draft classes I can recall,
Everyone said that about the 2006 QB draft, but look at how many of those QBs were even in the Playoffs right now. (See: Cutler, Jay and Shanahan, Mike)
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
are even in the playoffs right now*
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 20, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
+1
There are a lot of QBs, but the amount of quality QBs has yet to be seen.
by Parks Smith on Jan 20, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
It's a lot of QBs, but they're all pretty average.
If you’re looking for a good back-up, you can find one in the mid-rounds pretty easily this year.
If you’re looking for a franchise guy, every prospect has large question marks.
by SeminoleSkins87 on Jan 20, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
you and i could draft better than the redsklins with nothing more than tv games and an espn draft guide…probably dont even need the tv
by les boulez bomber on Jan 20, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions
What about Colin Kaepernick?
I thought he looked pretty good for a low end draft pick….
His stock will rise after the combine.
Dude is 6’6 and threw for 10k+ and rushed for over 4k in his career. He was also a baseball prospect with a 95+ fastball. I think he would be a better pick in the 3rd than Newton in the 1st. Sadly we don’t have a 3rd thanks to out trade for a broke down 2x pro bowler Jamal Brown.
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
I've long suspected that the Skins' relative lack of success in the draft
and FA was at least partly due to a poor scouting staff, rather than a wrongheaded sytem or technique, or any one person making dumb decisions; it was a group failure. It could also be some flaw in how they use the scouting reports, or even one person who somehow mishandles the data. But the system seems reasonable, with one big caveat mentioned below. Based on various interviews, I think (but don’t know) that all the coaches, plus Allen (or Cerrato) and – rarely – Snyder, get together, discuss, sometimes vote, but in any case, rate all the candidates and devise the basic strategy. It seems to be a good system, but could also suffer from one major flaw: it is a committee making the decisions. Committees can fail badly depending on group dynamics. I think it would be better for one person – Shanahan – to make all the final decisions, not trying to please anybody. Listen to everybody, but Mike and only Mike has to do the deciding. Don’t try to keep everybody happy. Say one guy has strong views on 5 different guys, then he’s outvoted on four. There could be the urge to give the poor guy one pick just to be “fair”. But say the one was Cerrato, and he just loved Fred Davis as the best player available?
By the way, if Shanahan did rate four or five of the QBs as roughly equal (very possible based on studies posted right here on HH), it could make great sense to trade down to get more picks in the first two rounds, on the assumption that we could still get one of the presumably equal quarterbacks. I suspect Shanahan doesn’t buy that idea, and in fact is determined to get one particular guy
Some of this is just dumb ...
Most of the Skins scouts were old guys hobbling around. Kid you not.
I just don’t care how old the scouts are, or how well they move around. It really is completely, utterly irrelevant to their jobs. We’re not expecting them to play – my bottom line is performance as scouts. Criticize the scouts for the team’s drafting? Sure! Laugh at them for being old and hobbling (a lot of HoF players have trouble moving around these days – it kind of goes with the football career)? That says more about the idiots posting than it does about the Redskins and their scouts.
Who really knows what kind of scouts the Redskins have right now.
Gibbs traded away so many crucial picks in his second time around that we don’t have a great body of evidence to look at the depth these scouts could have possibly selected there.
We all know Vinny was a joker of epic proportions.
And our current GM is really just a salary cap and business guy, not a real talent evaluator.
Scouting is probably the weirdest field of employment in sports anyway. It’s an old boy’s club of guys who knew each other through previous playing or coaching days, with a few sons of former players/coaches mixed in, and everyone is just giving each other scouting jobs as breaks. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that probably half the league’s scouts don’t really know what they’re doing, whether it’s the Redskins’ scouts or not.
by SeminoleSkins87 on Jan 20, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think we are okay
2008 NFL DRAFT (Vinny v. Shanahan)
Rd REDSKINS Rd BRONCOS
#2 Devin Thomas #1 Ryan Clady
#2 Fred Davis #2 Eddie Royal
#2 Malcolm Kelly #4 Kory Lichtensteiger
#3 Chad Rinehart #4 Jack Williams
#4 Justin Tryon #5 Ryan Torain
#6 Durant Brooks #6 Carlton Powell
#6 Kareem Moore #7 Spencer Larsen
#6 Colt Brennan #7 Josh Barrett
#7 Rob Jackson #7 Peyton Hillis
#7 Chris Horton
Very fitting
the skins would be interested in an injured flash in the pan guy. A couple years ago it was Malcolm Kelly with injury problems. Then the acted surprised he was always too hurt to play.If they’re not giving away picks, they’re wasting them on bums that probably won’t even make it in the league.
Why do the Redskins
have a thing for QBs (Newton and Johnson) who are going to end up being a WR by year 2 or 3?
Do we really know that they have thing for Newton?
Or is that just the media tagging the Redskins as wanting the “flashy” prospect once again?
by SeminoleSkins87 on Jan 20, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
No chance.
Nobody knows who have a “thing” for. So what they talked to the kid. It could have been as innocent as, hey I went to TAMU too, or how’s your dad, etc. This story is BS. Johnson isn’t a NFL QB,
I consider myself a one man wolfpack..
Everyone is getting excited over nothing
This is a classic smoke and mirrors act by Shannahan…. just read how he drafted Cutler. He never tips his hand to anyone, what he’s showing you is never what he does. I personally hope skins take Ryan Mallet, he’s not always on point but when he is… he makes some pro passes w/ pro ball placement. A year under the wing of the Shanny’s he could be the new beast of the east! Wouldn’t be surpised if skins drafted a DT tho, not many big boys in the the draft that could play NT.

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