NFL Cuts 2010: Redskins Final Roster
by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT
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Rookie: Mike, what are the odds of a Coach like you and a player like me ending up together?
Shanahan: Well, that's difficult to say. I mean, we don't really...
Rookie: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! I came a long way just to see you, Coach. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Shanahan: Not good.
Rookie: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Shanahan: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Rookie: So you're telling me there's a chance... *YEAH!*
Well, those chances are over for 22 players. We'll update the list of those cut as they come in...
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Not on 53: Updated list of waived players: Austin, Tryon (traded to Colts), Selvish Capers, Erik Cook, Darrion Scott, Anderson Russell, Shay Hodge, Rob Jackson, Logan Paulsen, Will Montgomery, Tyrone Carter, Parker, Torain, Ramzee Robinson, Lee Vickers.
Several of these players made the practice squad once they cleared waivers.
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Redskins will likely add a WR from another squad
Gonna be a busy weekend even after cuts
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 4, 2010 1:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i tend to agree. if austin is cut, they plan to add somone and include roydell williams. banks will prob still be cut. austin is much better
by les boulez bomber on Sep 4, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Logan Paulsen cut as well
Skins are rolling with 2 tight ends
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 4, 2010 1:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cooley blocked extremely well this preseason
and that was against 1s. Pushing people back.
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Cooley's never been a "non-blocker"
Has he been distinguished by his blocking? No.
But I still remember clearly a play in 2007 when Portis got a TD from about the 18 or so almost solely because he held onto Cooley’s jersey and went along for the ride as Cooley leveled any would-be tacklers in front of him.
I still remember clearly multiple plays in 2009 where CP got crushed in the backfield because of Cooley, Sellers & Heyer/Brown blocking the left side. I think Cooley’s a decent blocker on the move but definitely not on short-yardage downs.
Cooley and Sellers were being forced to block way more than FBs or TEs should ever be expected to last year. They had to make up for the complete lack of blocking on the line. Cooley does best when he’s a lead blocker taking on LBs and DBs, not when he has to take on DTs and DEs before they’ve even been touched. And Sellers definitely should have done better, but there would have been less criticism directed his way last year had he also been blocking D-Linemen who had at least been disrupted at the line of scrimmage.
Sellers = twinkle toes
It’s his job to disrupt those lineman!
by testudo4lunch on Sep 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
NT Anthony Bryant made the team
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
tryon
gone too according to rotoworld http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4883
Do we really see Byron Westbrook as the 5th corner? OR do we bring in a Brandon MCDonald just cut from the browns?
So much for Tryon being the next Darrell Green
He was being hyped up as one of the best prospects in football. Guess that’s not happening, at least not here.
wasnt he a 3rd Rd pick
my god the Vinnie drafts were a disaster.
in reality the only good non 1st Rd picks we have from the Vinny era are Cooley, Davis, and Horton (tho I refuse to give Vinny credit for Horton as he took a Punter the rd before he took Horton so he was prepared for another team to take Horton so as to get a Punter who was cut after 3 games)
High rd (i.e 2nd 3rd Rd failures, Kelly, Rhinehart (tho I had hopes for him pre-injury) Heyer and maybe Thomas.
Please feel free to add any I have forgotten from each list
Pommylee
Tryon was a 4th round pick
But not that it makes a huge difference.
Kedric Golston and Reed Doughty were 6th round picks in 2006 right off the top of my head. I’d consider them to be pretty good (as in serviceable) picks ups, considering where they were drafted.
Not that I’m trying to defend Cerrato or anything.
Can't believe Austin cut - and could lose him from the practice squad
Bryant had to stay. Maybe Roydell Williams and/or Wade stay. Paulsen cut? Gotta be PS. R Robinson and Tryon both cut? Means Westbrook? Torain figures.
Not too surpised on Torrain
Shanny loves him but he never even got a sniff with any other team. I am shocked and happy that Keiland made the team. I am an avid LSU fan and Keiland is a talented kid who was always stuck behind a guy having a career year.
Ok correction.
Tryon was traded to Colts. Not sure what we got back yet. Hopefully Peyton Manning.
Another Cerrato piece gone.
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I hope he makes PS
He is a project but nothing wrong with that. I think the guy has talent it’s just a matter of coaching him up and sometimes that takes time.
Current List
Austin
Capers
Tyrone Carter
Parker
Paulsen
Ramzee Robinson
Will Robinson
Torain
Tryon
Vickers
10 down, 12 to go (assuming no one new is brought in)
Austin will be practice squad
he already said he plans to work with Bmitch one-on-one.
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wow
Austin’s gone though? And we kept Westbrook over Tryon??? WTF
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Surprised by Austin
People have been saying Tryon was gonna get cut for weeks though so I’m not surprised by that.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
they've been saying
it for weeks, but Westbrook hasn’t been outplaying anybody and he’s still here.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
well in camp and practice Westbrook was better
They were about the same in games and Westbrook is better at ST. When we’re talking about the 5th CB it’s more about ST.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't wanna go back
and copy it here from another post, but their stats in games are night and day. And if they’re going off who played better in camps as opposed to games then I expect to see Devin Thomas cut in the next couple of hours.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Well they clearly aren't basing it just on games as Willie Parker and Austin got cut and they has better cumulative stats in the preseason
If a guy is out playing another consistently for week in practice anc camps(as was reported) I bet that plays into things and I don’t think they post stats for missed tackles which has been his real problem. Still I think it was more about ST at the #5 CB spot.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Westbrook
obviously, one of the coaches really likes him. Waiting on the receivers now.
Absolutely
His name is Danny Smith. Westbrook is without question one of the best ST players on the team. Keeping players for the play on ST’s is nothing new. Look no further than George Allen and Joe Gibbs here, who both did it regularly.
R. Robinson had a couple of bad plays vs AZ, and was fighting, which I hear
Shanahan doesn’t like.
He was mixin' it up with Rodgers-Cromartie..
I guess Shanny frowns on that sort of passion in a game. :P
Suprised at tyron cut. FO has him really high on there prospect list.
by lynxtheone on Sep 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I know you gotta groom young guys
But I wouldn’t mind signing Leinart if we could get him cheap enough. The guy would easily be the best 3rd QB and once he got the system, push Grossman at 2nd QB.
He got cut because he wouldn't accept a backup role in AZ
If you bring him in here to back up McNabb (and maybe Grossman too), then you’ll just have to deal more with his unhappiness.
Right
Shit, kinda had a little brain lapse. You’re right though. If he would accept the role, he’d be a good pick-up though…
You don't think..
..backing up a QB of McNabb’s caliber would be easier for him to deal with? I’m not saying I’m all in on the idea, but I would think there is a difference between backing up Derek Anderson and Donovan McNabb.
I don't think so, actually
I think he feels that he’s paid his dues and that it’s his turn now And to some extent, he’s right (especially in Arizona, where by most accounts, he’s outperformed Anderson all offseason both in practice and in preseason games). At some point, you can’t develop a guy any more. You either give him the reigns or you do what Arizona just did — you send him on his way. He’s gonna be pretty adamant about trying to land somewhere where he has the chance to start though.
i heard the prob with leinart was that he couldnt move the team. like campbell, defenses keyed on him pretty easily because he would always take the dump pass.
by les boulez bomber on Sep 4, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Shay Hodge cut
That was as surprising as Paris Hilton getting a new STD.
Kory Lichtensteiger officially is in.
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He had a nice fumble recovery
that resulted in a fresh set of downs. It’s good to see a big guy with good hands.
yeah I can understand the logic behind that move
But can’t say I 100% agree with it.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Speed is a rarity. Guess they feel they can coach him up.
Showed great hands. Get him some pine tar and he’s good to go.
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Keim mentioned a couple times that as a slot reciever Banks was getting more seperation as the CB's had to respect his speed
Still I liked Austin. He can be a Randle El.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Small, shifty more than fast, runs solid routes and catches the ball?
Randle El was a very solid slot reciever. People forget that cuz he was awful as a returner and they started him but he’s a very solid slot guy and I had no problems with him in that role.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good locker room guy too
but he’ll never live down the rep as a returner he earned here
Bored and broke.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The LAST THING we need is another Randle Fell. I was jumping for joy when we dumped him.
you would think that
having great hands means you can catch a ball and actually hold on to it
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
take this from someone who follows about a dozen sports
including Rugby, Aussie RUles, Rugby Leauge, Soccer, BBall, and of course NFL.
the one thing that is useful in all sports and can not be coached is pure speed.
If you have a guy who has genuine pace, you just have to try to utilise him and iron out the other issues.
Speed is king
Pommylee
I do not want VJ
That guy is trouble. DUIs, high contract demands, bad locker room personality. And he’s not even that good. [He’s really good, OK? But he is not an elite guy, even though he makes demands and acts as if he is.]
by kseandoyle on Sep 4, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
Simply not worth the pain. Trying to restore the Skins.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Sep 4, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
plus the contract
We are about to hand out really large contracts to McNabb and Brown. Rocky and Carlos need to be resigned or replaced. We just gave 35M Guaranteed to Williams. Not sure we can afford another mega contract going forward.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Erik Cook has been released. PS hopeful.
Darrion Scott cut too. A lot of our draft picks are gone. All the 7th rounders and 6th rounder.
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Haynesworth
“Albert, we would have signed a few extra players, but someone has been taking all of our money this offseason. Anyway, I remember you saying you don’t want to be a NT because you want more chances to get to the ball. Well, I’ve got an idea…”
they got one right
any news on armstrong?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
makes my day
I’ll accept Banks and Old-ell for Jarmon. I had my “Shanny Needs to Go” post all ready if they cut JJ.
austin and torain...
like everyone is saying…they should have made the team…
hope they get on the PS so they don’t come back to haunt us on some other team!
by Forestvillain for Life on Sep 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I liked Torain
but, truthfully, I think I like Williams better. Seems to run with more power. Plus, his college highlights are sick. They’re ALMOST as good as Dennis Morris’ college tapes. But Williams is obviously a better pro. And Morris SUCKS. He’s AWFUL!! C’MON LJP, WHERE ARE YOU??
Now can we start admitting Shanny had a poor late draft
Capers cut, Morris cut ages ago and some genuine potential O-Line options remained on the board when we took Morris, or maybe we could have traded the Rd 7 pick and the Morris pick to trade up to get a decent O-LInement
I will say it again, Shanny barely had a winning record in a weak division, his SB’s were over a decade ago with an elite QB, he has a history of poor personel decisions and now we are already seeing that he is no saviour
Pommylee
Stop crying and let the season play out if you’re a real skins fan stop bashing a coach that has not had the chance to prove his self it’s only fair to give a person a shot GO SKINS
by Daddyssanchez on Sep 6, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions
nothing would make me happier
than to be wrong, and I will be cheering them on more than anyone else (tho quietly so as not to wake my flatmate at 3am) but I just dont buy the Shanahan as saviour talk,
For that matter I feel the same way about Holmgren in Cleveland, the NFC East, the AFC North are tough tough tough divisions, and coming from the cupcake divisions out west is not a great grounding for the struggles on the East Coast.
Plus Shanny personnel record is poor going on dismal and Allen is a money managing GM, I just wish we had got a great Personnel managing GM to oversee Shanahan.
With that being said, we are way better off than under Zorn, I just dont see us getting a SB within the next 3 years with this leadership team, and I fear that we did not do enough rebuilding instead just topping up with veterans when we need youth and depth.
Again I would love nothing more than to be wrong, but I fear that for once in my life, in this instance I am right.
Pommylee
Rinehart made the team but they're shopping him
Key point. Bc u made the roster doesn’t mean you’re a
skin or know your depth.
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SO we are going with
3 safeties? OR do we bring in a vet ?
Personally
I think we could go with LaRon, Doughty, Horton and be in line with my expectations for this season.
Well until Kareem gets back
I am unsure if it is a smart idea to only have 3 guys there especially when Landry is the only guy listed as a SS
I see your point
but both Horton and Doughty were playing SS before so it isn’t like we have no one able to step in if Landry were injured.
yeah
those guys are really versatile, especially Doughty. I like Horton better in the free safety position than strong, but I think it was Horton who said earlier this summer that there are no “strong” or “free” safeties in this defense. Just left and right.
right
but my main point is should any one of those guys get hurt we would be down to 2 guys, neither of which are exactly amazing cover guys or hard hitters. I would just feel better about bringing in another potential starter till Moore gets back. But I am happy we still have the Predator
I wouldn't object to it if it happened or anything
just don’t see it as the most pressing now. He’s supposed to be out 4-6 right?
4-6 from the time of his injury
Which was two weeks ago (technically 13 days). So he has another 2-4 weeks. Hypothetically, he could be back for Week 2, but I’m not counting on that too much. No reason to rush back and then spend the season in and out of the injury report.
if someone else gets hurt
then they will bring someone in. Some of these guys will be available anyway.
they had carlos rogers playing some safety in camp, maybe that is what they are thinking
by les boulez bomber on Sep 4, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
LCP will be pissed
Colt was cut from Raiders. Supposedly Rhinehart will be cut if they cant trade him by 6. Purge of vinny continues.
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yeah but did you see who is now the #2 QB in New Orleans...
Thats right…none other than Chase Daniel
" IF YoU Are aRgUinG WiTh ME, YOU ArE WRonG!!!! "
i really liked him last year. its painful when coaches play favorites when someone else is clearly better
by les boulez bomber on Sep 4, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wish
We could make a spot for this guy. I don’t know how practice squad stuff works (I’m assuming the team that cuts the player gets first dibs), but I wouldn’t mind picking him up. So much potential there. I did hear though he is a very likely practice squad guy, so it’s not like he is done in the NFL.
Right now he's on waivers
Which means that any team in the league can sign him to their roster on his current contract. If he clears waivers (in something like 4 days but I don’t really know how long that takes) — that is, if no one picks him up — then he’s practice squad eligible. But the Titans will always have rights to him as a practice squad member before any other team. The only way to trump those rights is to sign him to a 53-man roster. At that point, he’s yours (unless the Titans decide to outbid you, but who has ever heard of a bidding war for a practice squad player?). Basically, the team to have last had him under contract has the right to retain him on their practice squad. If they choose to decline that option, he’s available to all practice squads.
I think that could be wrong
because we tried to sign Chase Daniels to our practice squad last year, but he signed to New Orleans’ instead. I think players are free to sign to whatever practice squad they choose once they clear waivers, like a free agent.
YES
I would sign him to frickin’ TUTOR our players if he can’t play. I would LOVE to have that guy on our team. If nothing else, he could be a good ST player. It’s obvious he’s a hard worker, which beats out pure athleticism most of the time.
Like him too but we have enough SS
I don’t like him better than Doughty, Horton or Landry.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
He was a FS. He at least seems versatile enough to play both, but that’s my opinion, and from what little I remember of him in FSU.
Housh signed to the Vikings
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Sep 4, 2010 5:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You know what that means
Let’s go, Joey Galloway, Anthony Armstrong, and Devin Thomas! Woohoo!
I look at it this way
Galloway is like a really, really, really old Percy Harvin….sort of….
where did you find that im still not seeing anywhere
" IF YoU Are aRgUinG WiTh ME, YOU ArE WRonG!!!! "
I wish someone would make up their mind as to where this guy is going... Its making my head hurt...
" IF YoU Are aRgUinG WiTh ME, YOU ArE WRonG!!!! "
That article is hilarious
Other headlines might be:
“Vikings Sign Housh. Unless They Didn’t.” or “Vikings Sign Housh Because the Consensus is That’s Where He Should Go”
I love the internet.
by ReggieBullits on Sep 4, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Even FOX6 itself seems unsure of its own report, saying they can not “personally confirm nor deny” their source’s claim. Still, the signing would make a ton of sense for the Vikings, who have lost Sidney Rice to a hip injury and cut Javon Walker today. Although Housh is well below average after the catch and as a playmaker, he can still help the Vikings as a possession receiver.
Exactly
“It makes sense, so we’re reporting it as fact and we’ll be first! Wooo!”
by ReggieBullits on Sep 4, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
let 'em have him
I think his time with the Seahawks is more indicative of who he is as a player now. Like I said before, his situation reminds me way too much of Randle El.
He caught 79 balls as a #1 last year
How does that remind you of Randle El? He’s a #2. El was a #3-4.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 4, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Houz got his contract
because of what he did playing next to Chad Johnson, just like Randle Fell got his playing off Hines Ward. 79 balls or not, he is obviously not a REAL #1. Otherwise tons of teams woulda been knocking down their door when he became available.
Who said he needs to come in here as a #1?
We need receivers in general. To get a guy who can get you 70-80 receptions and 800-900 yards would be a great achievement. Moss and Housh and 1 and 2 would make out receivers a lot more legit than Moss and Galloway.
he is obviously not a real #1 because he got cut and had no off field issues. he also has a tough contract to absorb as it stands. dont want that contract but would welcome him under diff terms
by les boulez bomber on Sep 4, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Randle El wasn’t ever very good (just did a lot of different things) as a receiver when he was in Pittsburgh. Housh, on the other hand, was legitimately VERY good for the Bengals.
Also, the guy had a little over 900 yards last year. In fact, he had 79 catches for 911 yards and 3 TDs, whereas Santana Moss had 70 catches for 902 yards and 3 TDs. CJHutch, do you think we need to cut Moss? Sounds like stats like that don’t cut it for you.
I think you're getting me wrong
as I said in the other post on this topic – I was all for bringing him in. Just not for a high price, and DEFINITELY not on a trade. If he was a legit #1, he would have been traded for.
OK, well...
He’s cut loose now, so there’s no need to pay a high price or give up anything in a trade. So… what would be the problem at this point?
No problem
I was initially responding to the report that the Vikes signed him. I was just saying I wasn’t heartbroken that we didn’t have him. Would I rather have him than Williams or Galloway? Definitely. All I’m saying is I don’t think he’s the top level receiver everyone thought he was in Cincy.
I agree
He’s a great wingman. He earned his chance to attempt to be a #1 receiver and didn’t do too well at it (the rest of Seattle’s offense didn’t help him of course). If he and Moss want to each be our 1.5, I’d be very happy with it lol
Schefter says
Housh hasn’t even spoken with the Vikes.
RT @Jordan101GFX Has Housh signed with Minny or not? Hearing two reports. … As of yet, he has not even spoken with the Vikings.
I t;hink I’ll take his word over some random Fox Sports guy in Wisconsin.
by ReggieBullits on Sep 4, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice screen name...
Ive seen that somewhere before….
" IF YoU Are aRgUinG WiTh ME, YOU ArE WRonG!!!! "
If we need DB help
Eagles cut Macho Harris and Quentin Demps. Harris is probably a bit too slow for CB, but both are very solid S with potential. I’m a bit of a VT homer, so I kinda want to see us sign Macho…
Not necessarily
I haven’t seen any verification on the claim, but considering your link is almost 8 hours old (as in before he was released, and still a trade option), and the Vikings just announced the release of Javon Walker, and since when can anybody trust a ’We’re not interested’ statement, it still holds water… I hope he turns out to be wrong, but that link does nothing to disprove him.
Pat White cut as well
The NFL is not a league for scrambling quarterbacks who have no accuracy and make poor reads.
Huh
I wonder why you’d be upset over that…
Way to early. Tebow doesn’t make poor reads though. Scrambling….I’d give. But not the poor reads part. That was never a question mark with Tebow.
The Once and Future King
Alright...didn't want to do it...not like this....but....
Yeah, I’m a Tebow fan.
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 4, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhh ken...how could you?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
im rooting for him too. solid character
by les boulez bomber on Sep 4, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope he just gets some...
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 6, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That's because
Tebow doesn’t make reads. Personal bias aside, I see major problems in Tebow’s ability to diagnose a defense pre-snap. The entire Urban Meyer offense is set up where he already knows where he’s going with the ball. Against higher-level college defenses, the scheme won the game. On the occasions that Tebow didn’t have his first two targets wide open, he tucked it and ran. That doesn’t work in the NFL. If he can learn the pre-snap reads and diagnose as he goes, use his legs to open things up downfield for his arm, he’ll be OK. I don’t personally think he’ll be able to succeed, but I like the Broncos in general so I hope I’m wrong.
OK, but if his work ethic is anywhere near what is raved about, he will immerse himself in the film room and improve on the field. Tebow was drafted on his natural skills, what he can become if he applies himself over time and the marketing windfall he will bring if he succeeds. I think he will learn to recognize defenses. He was a winner in college and has a lot of work to do, but I think he becomes a starter in this league in time, and maybe more!
by les boulez bomber on Sep 6, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Heard that one before...
He was a winner in college
Wonder where?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 6, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
overall, I'm satisfied
if, for no other reason than they kept Jarmon. I woulda been PO’d big time if he woulda been cut. Also happy about Williams (though I woulda preferred him AND Torain.) But we definitely need the youth at RB. I think it’s a mistake to let Austin go, but I think he’ll be back on the PS. I also hope Capers makes the PS. Other than that, who cares. I wasn’t enamored by any of the rest of the players, ‘cept maybe Vickers a little bit. Bartel could go jump off a bridge for all I care, and I wouldn’t mind if Beck followed him.
Tell me about this Tryon guy
if we gave you a draft pick, the bastard better be gold…
;)
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so....
he’s fast you say? O.o can he cover….or…..? lol I’m not to thrilled with what Im reading from the Colts cut downs right now so give me SOMETHING man!!!
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well
when we drafted him, HE SAID he was gonna be a starter. Unfortunately the highest he got was nickel last year under that awful regime. Seems like this year he couldn’t crack the top 5 over a special teams player.
I will tell you that he has shown flashes of potential, and still could develop into a decent corner.
He did have a few starts last year
But nothing spectacular… He’s got potential, but I don’t agree with some (coughDarrellGreencough) who think he is poised to become a Pro Bowler. He’s fast. That’s about it. It’s a good pickup by the Colts though because there’s lots of things you can teach a player, but you can’t teach fast. And so if the Colts think they can teach him the rest, then good luck.
Tyron has shown flashes of brilliance
And flashes of failure. I think he has the potential, but he is far from reaching it consistency wise.
What defense
do the Skins run? Excuse my ignorance, but I don’t follow you guys a whole lot. You think he will have success in the Cover 2?
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A cover 2
is a lot of responsibility for a DB. If he can learn his assignments, he’s got the speed to cover the field and develop into a legit cover man. I wouldn’t hope for much more, myself, but of course, a good cover man is always good to have around.
We run a 3-4 right now. It’s newly installed, so I can’t say much on how the backfield works in it. What I do about it is that safeties and corners basically just have mirror assignments on the left and right side and that we should be expecting a lot of blitzing, including blitzing from DBs. Maybe Tryon didn’t excel in aggressive stuff like that. For the last two years (since Tryon’s rookie year) we had a basic 4-3 base and a really primitive backfield that only resembled the cover-2 in that the free safety was waaaayyy off the line of scrimmage. Our basic philosophy was to prevent teams from getting a lot of yards (unless they got a big play) and to get the ball back only by forcing punts or stumbling into an interception by accident.
Before that we ran the same modified cover-2 that the Saints now have (only we didn’t give up as many yards). We had that for 4 years.
depends on what year you're talking about
This is our first year in the 3-4, so who knows how he plays in it. As for the Cover 2, he kind of played in it the past few years. Unfortunately, it was under Blache. And under Blache, the DB’s were asked to line up AS FAR AWAY from the receiver as possible, and pray they don’t throw a hitch, slant, or any other underneath route.
well last year we ran
the innovative.
2 man rush with everyone else standing just behind the 1st down markers defence.
It really was a stroke of genius by (then DC) Blatche, he got a potential weapon in AH to never try to penetrate, then even tho he never blitzed he still managed with 9 guys back to leave a little pocket of space just at and beyond the 1st down marker so that oppostions could easily and without much risk plod up the field on 8 or 9 play drives, then in the Red Zone he would ensure that at least one WR was wide open while trying to put as little pressure on the QB as possible.
AS I say it was innovative
Pommylee
All I'm going to say is
Prepare to get burned in the Secondary A LOT if he ever ends up as your 1st option. He’s got great speed and he’s a decent tackler, but he has marginal cover skills at best. I’m glad he’s gone.
I noticed in a draft video
that he has no instinct on reading routes at all. But when he got burned he usually recoverd. He won’t get a lot playing I don’t think. Unless the Colts use him in the Nickel spot. I think he was brought in just for depth.
How’s his Special Teams play? Fast and a decent tackler seem to bode well for him there.
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He will see most of his playing time
on ST then. Our corners are good and won’t lose their jobs to him, but he offers quality depth I guess.
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I thought he was a good prospect. Played well last year in limited time. Football Outsiders listed him as one of the better prospects going into 2010.
Tell me about this Tryon guy
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
ummmm
have all the final cuts been posted ?
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
assholes
maybe they have a trade or two in the works
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
Yeah, maybe they made a trade or two and are just waiting for all of that to be approved/become official and then they can release the 53 man.
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Me too. I figured it would be a little delayed. But not almost an hour and a half.
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i heard
Richard Bartell , Chad Reinhart
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
And I noticed you guys pulling for TJ
as of 10 minutes ago the Vikings have NOT signed him….
so carry on
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hearing that potential deals are delaying
the final announcements, supposedly 8pm EDT now for remainder of information. also possibility that Tyron is being traded for Collie (or so it’s rumoured on cpnd)
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
CPND
capitol punishment web board, another outlet where all things Redskin are discussed.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Rhinehart also cut link below
by Mike and Ike on Sep 4, 2010 8:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
list is out
Henson cut , Logan Paulsen made the team
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
wow
no one noticed that HENSON was cut?!?!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
posted on skins site
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
and thay made us wait all this time for what reason ?
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
swift kick to the coin purse?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Austin
Banks over Austin is the only thing I am questioning. Banks coughed it up 3 times and belongs on the practice squad at best.
Yeah I was just shocked by that
I still stand by my statement: Austin can do more for this football team. Hopefully Austin hasn’t been signed.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Sep 4, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and this post is rec'd for the photo & reference
SO YOU’RE SAYING THERE’S A CHANCE!?
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Pretty good
I like keeping Paulsen, Darrel Young, Roydell Williams, Jarmon, Keiland Williams. The Skins’ site suggested that cutting Carter could be a sign that Moore will be back soon. WRs are: Moss, Galloway, Armstrong, Williams, Thomas and Banks. Four veterans and two rookies.
wishful thinking or did we sign him?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
The addition of Curtis Gateway, Howard Green, Robert Henson, and Clint Oldenburg to the Redskins' waivers previously
Redskins | 11 released, two waived/injured
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mentioned on HH. Then there is the Tryon trade plus RB Willie Parker, RB Ryan Torain, TE Lee Vickers, S Tyrone Carter, LB Robert Jackson, T Logan Paulsen, FB Carey Davis, and CB Ramzee Robinson,
“Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:18:10 -0400
The Washington Redskins have released WR Bobby Wade, WR Terrence Austin, QB Richard Bartel, OT Selvish Capers, OL Erik Cook, LB Curtis Gatewood, DL Howard Green, LB Robert Henson (knee), WR Shay Hodge, OT Clint Oldenburg (knee), OL Chad Rinehart, OT Will Robinson, S Anderson Russell, and DE Darrion Scott, reports Redskins.com. Henson and Oldenburg were waived/injured.”
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0yc98cRaA
This adds up to a 22 player reduction.
Rich Tandler's comment on the defensive line is an important issue with the Redskins' roster after the cuts. The Teams
practice squad does lean heavily toward the offense, but that only gives week to week flexibility. Tandler said, “Having depth here is good but keeping eight linemen when you only field three at a time takes away players from other positions.”
There is no other part of the teams’ depth chart that has this many backups. This is nearly 3 players for every slot. It is important to keep these linemen fresh, but at what cost at other positions? This heavy bent toward the defensive line may impact special teams during a game as much as anything. IMO, this “cost” could be chalked up to the 3-4 defense transition in one season. The FO didn’t have much option in restructuring the roster.
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