Pour Some Sugar On Me -- Where DeAngelo Hall Covers...Whatever He Wants
Back from hiatus, Pour Some Sugar On Me appears in its newest form here in Week 2. As some of you have seen, the old 'STAT!' section has been given its own home, but 'Ten Yard Fight' will continue to be the heart and soul of PSSOM. Let's get to it.
Ten Yard Fight---10 Chances to Make One Good Point
1) Yes, I know this will now be my second weekly post that is blatantly kind of bullet-point driven. It keeps me honest, while also giving you all easy ways to assault each and every one of my ludicrous musings.
2) While watching the 49ers play last night, something inside me caused jubilant, physical reactions to every great play made by the home team. I don't hate on the Saints. I don't even especially like the Niners. Yet watching Patrick Willis do what he does inspired me to root my guts out for him and his teammates. Alex Smith looked pretty great at the end there, but those San Francisco turnovers were just colon-wringing. Finally, has there ever been anything more anti-climactic than seeing Drew Brees get 1:19 worth of clock to get into field goal position? It's like putting Charlie Sheen in a room full of aspiring actresses. You know EXACTLY what's going to happen.
3) Great job Skins fans. FedEx Field has been loud and boisterous for the first two home games. The new HD boards make an insane difference to me personally. I have been floating around the stadium the last two weeks, and from the 5-6 angles I have watched the games from so far, I can tell you that the big boards have been instrumental in following the action on the field. The return of the out-of-town scores and the fantasy updates is the simplest way to make people happy--I continue to wonder aloud who in God's name decided to stop showing those scores for a few years there.
4) I do have a complaint to register with the folks at FedEx. At one point late in the second half, the crowd began to chant for the Skins (I believe it was for the defense). The chant began--as all chants do--in one section, and it was one of those chants that everyone started to pick up on and it kind of swept across the stands. It had the effect of a mid-summer storm, where you could kind of feel the air change as it approached and then as it swept by you, you got caught up in it. Just as it started to really dominate the stands, the PA guy starts playing the "Everybody Clap Your hands" bit. Both Kevin and I looked at each other with a look that said, "What the hell are these guys doing? They just stomped out their own crowd!" To be fair, last year they would have played an Empire Flooring commercial at full blast at that moment, so there is some progress here. But isn't rule #1 of PA'ing to understand that when people are already pumped and getting more and more pumped on their own, there is no need to insert any artificial pumping? It was an amateur move, and we hope that it will be addressed. If we have proven anything in the first two weeks at FedEx, it is that we can get ourselves fired up in a close game against a good opponent. Not that we do not appreciate the integral role the PA folks play, but when the crowd is leading itself in situations like that, the energy is 1000 times better than when the PA guy plays a bit that gets people clapping. In this instance, the PA move was actually deflating.
5) How do I put this one nicely...hmmmm...HOW STUPID IS ANDY REID? Are you seriously going to bench Vick and bring back Kolb? As a Redskins fan, I love this move. The Eagles look pretty explosive behind Vick on offense. If I play for the Eagles, I am livid about this. No offense to Kolb, but I guarantee you that the players LOVE playing with Vick. He gives everyone on that team a kind of confidence that a guy like Kolb could never provide, mostly because he has never done anything in the league. This is Reid forcing Kolb down everyone's throat to save his butt from looking foolish for dealing Don Burgundy. That's what we call compounding your mistake. All Reid needs to do is win, and win now. That will keep him as safe as any coach in this league. From my vantage point (which is admittedly far from the Eagles practice field and facilities) it appears Vick gives that team the best chance to win.
6) Is it just me, or did the Texans game remind anyone else of the kind of offense that Philly ran with McNabb, where everything went through the air and nothing came on the ground? Sure, we called running plays, but once again, a McNabb-led offense thrived in the passing game. I am not making any conclusions here by the way. It is way too soon to label our offense as anything more than inconsistent at this point in the season. But I will be watching closely to see what kind of running game we can get going to complement Donovan's arm. If I recall, the lack of any legitimate rushing attack doomed the Eagles on more than one occasion.
7) If you find yourself in a tight game in the 4th quarter, and the other team absolutely has to have a big play, AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE THE BALL IS GOING, why wouldn't you put your #1 cornerback there to defend it? There are acceptable reasons why you would not do this. Maybe you want DHall to lock down a guy like Kevin Walter, who had been catching more balls then the interns on Bob Saget's tour bus. What is UNACCEPTABLE is to suggest that "the system does not call for such adjustments". We have had too many rigid systems over the last few years. Adjustments are what good coaches make all the time. This is not to suggest that Jim Haslett is incapable of making adjustments, or even that he has made zero adjustments so far this year. But right or wrong, when you hear it suggested that the reason DHall was not covering Andre Johnson late in the game was because it "wasn't his side", that is not good enough. Before the season is out, I want that fixed.
8) I have been dreading this one all day. I remain hopeful that the last two games have been a bit of an aberration, but Mike Sellers has looked at least a little bit ineffective in the passing game. I know he got a little banged up in the preseason, so maybe he is still not 100% there. Please give it to me good if I am wrong here. I want to be wrong here. Sellers has been the primary target on more than a few pretty important plays this season already and our conversion/execution on those plays has not been very strong. I know we all were kind of hoping that Dennis Morris was going to be the heir apparent to Sellers and that did not happen. With our running game in shambles, it would be hard to suggest he is shining there. Given how important Sellers has been to this team--and the fans--over the years he deserves the opportunity to get it back on track. But with the slow deterioration of Big Mike, the future of our backfield is officially in worse shape than Albert Haynesworth.
9) Please oh Please oh Please oh Please let Houston stick it to Dallas this week. The game is at home for the Texans, but I wonder what kind of home field advantage there will be for the home team. I do sincerely believe the Cowgirls will figure something out and start winning games. But to see them start 0-3 and to hear that deafening silence coming out of Dallas' sorry, sad-sack fanbase would be delightful.
10) Kevin and I shot Episode 2 of Redskins Lunchbox last night and much like the Redskins offense, we are already seeing signs of improvement. We will post it up as soon as it is produced and released. This week, we ask all of the Hogs Haven faithful to give it a click and a watch (in that order). We thank you in advance for forwarding it to anyone you think might enjoy watching two idiots and Russ Thaler bang out a short show about the Redskins.
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Left Turn/ Right Turn Theory
If D.Hall was sticking A. Johnson on that catch, would the outcome have been much different?
I sure hope we play the Texans again….In the Super Bowl
I think Andre Johnson makes that catch on almost anyone.
To me, it is more about putting your best players in the best position at crucial moments.
haslett gets the benefit of the doubt so far, but if he is really that against an adjustment like that late in a game, I would be disappointed.
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 21, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd agree...
I really think there is only one shutdown corner in the league right now and that Nmade in Oakland (Suck It Revis!). Receivers are just so much stronger, bigger, and faster.
I remember that game, it was Week 1 and Revis wasn’t on Johnson all that much… and Texans offense was AWFUL, they only scored 7 pts, not a very fair assessment…
Interesting
I’ve never heard anyone not credit Revis for shutting down AJ (and Randy Moss and Ochocinco and T.O. and Reggie Wayne, etc.) last year. I think it’s hard to argue against Revis’ shutdown abilities. The only real difference I see between him and Asomugha is that Aso has just been doing it longer.
To your #4
I think that you think some “universal” chants are a lot louder than they actually are. At one point a couple of my sections got some kind of chant going and I was happy, then I looked around and noticed that it was only like 4 or 5 sections participating and not the whole stadium…
This one started out like the one you suggest above
It was far away from us. It then traveled and became just about stadium-wide before they drowned it out. I totally hear what you are saying and agree whole-heartedly. In this instance though, they drowned out a chant that had pretty much graduated to the whole stadium.
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Sellers has looked at least a little bit ineffective in the passing game.
I thought Sellars sucked the first game but I really thought he did really well this past Sunday.
I think we should try using Fred Davis like an H-back
like what Cooley did under Gibbs. Fred may not be able to block, but at least he catches the ball. Sellers does neither reliably at this point.
An H-back who can't block well seems like a bad idea to me
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Like I said...I want to be wrong
But I followed him around on a lot of plays and I was a little disheartened. Then again, what do I know?
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 21, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know how some of yall notice all this crap why the game was going on in person. If you would of asked me to follow one dude then I probably would of vomited.
I learned it from my grandfather
He used to take me to Navy home games and he would say, “On this play (or series), we are going to just watch #55.” Then we would talk about what we saw and we would switch up to a different guy.
So at FedEx, at different times of the game, I turn to Kevin and say, “Let’s follow Sellers for a few plays” or “You watch Lorenzo Alexander and I’ll follow Rocky for a few plays.”
It really helps when it comes to these kinds of posts. Though to be honest, I am still just a fan and by no means a football expert.
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 21, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I only get to make to 2 or 3 games a year with my friends, so its more of a party for us… I notice a lot more when I’m watching at home.
I was the same way with my grandpa for almost every sport, but roles reversed for hockey, haha…
Do you and Kevin hold hands when you do this together?
RVZparks
Are you holding Zim’s hand in your profile picture or getting ready to give him a hug?
by RememberSean21 on Sep 21, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
both
You know the reply button works fine without having to reiterate people’s names right? But thanks new guy, that was valuable…
I think I can figure it out
I was just giving you a hard time bud. You and Zim look cute together, dont worry
by RememberSean21 on Sep 21, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
5 and 6
Yes, Andy Reid IS stupid. But haven’t we known this for years? He’s also a great football mind, so I really don’t understand the dynamic. He’s a conondrum wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a jelly donut. There is NO WAY Kolb should start this weekend. That’s just Reid not wanting to look silly for taking the keys from a Pro Bowl possible HOFer, and giving them to whatever’s behind door number 2; in other words, the unknown.
And yes, this does look like Philly’s offense. But I don’t think its by design. I think it’s just because our runningbacks need walking sticks. What concerns me is that this will weigh on D Mac’s decision on signing a new deal. He came here thinking he was finally gonna have a consistent run game, and we give him The Space Cowboys.
by CJHutch on Sep 21, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Portis said it best so far..
We have yet to really rely on the run. Portis has shown burst multiple times this season(even on the block for Fred Davis) and doesnt need a walking stick to run. What he needs is more opportunities to get hot. I think we give him the ball more this week and hes going to step up. We need this to run down the clock and rest our defense for the fourth quarter so we dont have a repeat of week 2(But hey who can really stop throwing when we looked as good as we did doing it. I would have started running to the right side though after Trent went down and see what we get. If nothing else it’ll keep the defense guessing.)
by RememberSean21 on Sep 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and one more thing
Portis flourished in Denver under Mike Shanahan by running outside the tackles. I really think this needs to be the theme here. Hes a physical guy but lucky to break one loose up the middle for a big gain. Around the edge he still has quickness
by RememberSean21 on Sep 21, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to do it
But I have go disagree with everything you said. I don’t wanna bash Portis, because I respect the hell out if his grit. But I just don’t know what “burst” you’re seeing. Truthfully, I haven’t seen it in years. He may be the only starting back over the last 3 or 4 years who does not have even ONE long breakaway td run. I remember one last year where.he went pretty far, but still got run down. But aside from his speed, he also has awful balance. The guy trips over his own shadow.
And as for
Portis flourished in Denver under Mike Shanahan by running outside the tackles.
Do you realize how long ago that was? I’m sorry, but this just simply isn’t the same Portis who played in Denver. You have to be realistic. Just think about it – back then, he was one of the top backs in the league. You know who the other ones were? Shaun’s Alexander, Jamal Lewis, Deuce McCalister, Ahman Green, and Stephen Davis. Hell, since Portis has been here, he’s seen the rise and fall of guys like Brian Westbrook, Willis McGahee, even Marion Barber. I know its tough to except, especially since he is, unfortunately, still our best option, but CP’s days of being a good RB are behind him.
Have to agree with this for sure
But aside from his speed, he also has awful balance. The guy trips over his own shadow.
I really started noticing this last season. CP leaves a lot of yards on the field by falling down prematurely. The one big 18-yarder against Dallas just last week could have been at least 5-10 more but he fell down like a big sack of potatoes. It’s like he already has a spot in mind where he wants to drop and that’s just where the bus stops. Period.
yup
Personally, I think it started after his fumbling issues a few years back. Now he holds the ball to his chest with both hands. Better for ball security, yes. But not very good for balance. And when’s the last time you saw him shed a tackled, or even stiff ARM a guy? I think he just expects to go down at first contact.
Again, I hate to pile on the guy, cuz he’s been a warrior for us. But those days are over. RB’s don’t typically last long, and Portis has lasted longer than most. I was really hoping they would rid themselves of his bloated salary while there were no cap implications. You know how hard its gonna be to pay him his 8-10mil/yr when he’s 32 years old with a 2.5 yard average? Personally, I think we could find a ton of backs that make 1/5 of CP’s salary to run for a sub 4yd average.
Okay
Except he still averaged 4 yards a carry last year while injured and hes only had 30 sporadic carries so far this year. Every back in the league will tell you have to get enough touches to get hot. Its not gonna happen with one carry here, one carry there.
We havent really seen him since 08’ when he carried for 13 yards shy of 1,500.. So really, you think its been 3-4 years since portis was effective in the running game? I NEVER said he was the same back as he was in his first two years I merely stated that he has had success running outside the tackles. Portis’ only 12 yard scamper this week came on, what I remember to be, his only outside opportunity.
As far as burst… To me, burst implies quickness not top speed. Now, perhaps its only been on 3 or 4 plays but i have seen Portis make a cut and “burst” thru the hole showing me that his legs feel fine. I think he’ll be another 1,000 yard rusher this year(otherwise we’re screwed..) He is not as great as he once was, but i do disagree sir if you think hes not a good RB. You can at least wait until they give him the ball to prove it
by RememberSean21 on Sep 21, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and as far as
“Every back in the league will tell you have to get enough touches to get hot.”
I did see Frank Gore tear it up Monday Night EVERY time he had the ball. Sometimes yes, we do have freaks like him that dont fit the example
by RememberSean21 on Sep 21, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not quite true
he had alot of 2-3 yard gains. But the original point that they kept feeding him and he was a bigger beast at the end is true.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 21, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
again, disagree
Yes, it’s true that it is best to let backs het into a rhythm. But you should still be able to squeeze more than a 1.2 yard average out if the first 9 carries from a “good back”. And as far as your statement:
"Every back in the league will tell you have to get enough touches to get hot."
I think “HAVE TO” is a little strong. If I’m not mistaken, CP’s FIRST EVER run for us remains his best as a Redskins.
I'm alot less worried about CP than the O-line
The interior of our O-line sucks and a large part of the reason they’ve been adequate in the pass game is because of Portis.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 22, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no doubt
Portis is the best blocking back in the league. Hell, I’d like to see him pack on 20lbs. and move to fullback. Could you imagine him as s lead blocker? But I’m seeing a guy getting to the hole slowly, then falling down when/if he DOES get through it. And I’m talking about edge runs as well as gut runs, so it goes further than the interior line. Plus, it ain’t lineman tackling him 5-10 yards downfield. He’s tackling himself.
Your still missing the point
Which to me is that he hasnt even gotten a chance yet to prove his worth. Shanahan still sees something worth while so you’ll find out in the next few games which one of us will be right or wrong. Obviously hes not going to set the world on fire but down throw him under the bus yet. We will snag another RB next year im sure but Portis will get his yards this year. Again, well be screwed anyways if he doesnt. What do you think our record will be this year?
by RememberSean21 on Sep 22, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I can agree with this sentiment. The defense needs to get off of the field. An effective running game would help. Hutch would
like to see that also plus an effective run defense. But you can’t shut down the run at the expense of pass defense either. “We need this to run down the clock and rest our defense for the fourth quarter so we dont have a repeat of week 2”
by Jefferson1935 on Sep 21, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
No.7
Quote taken from Redskin Insider:
For the first time, Hall revealed that Haslett considered changing plans late in the game to best utilize the Pro Bowl corner as Washington squandered the lead. “He started to make the adjustment [in the] middle of third quarter to [have Hall] go follow 80 [Johnson],” Hall said. But Haslett told Hall he “didn’t want to do something I haven’t practiced,” Hall said.
by English Redskin on Sep 21, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting...
The whole thing about this is that it was zone coverage so it didn’t even matter what CB was on Johnson…
Of course...
If Hall was “assigned” to Andre, it would not have been zone…maybe…probably…perhaps
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 21, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If Hall was assigned to Andre, it would have been a touchdown as well.
"You're fucking out!"
by travisjh86 on Sep 21, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is encouraging though that an adjustment was being contemplated
With at least one backup safety on the field at all times in the second half, perhaps Haslett played the odds correctly. Who knows?
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 21, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
DeAngelo Hall's coverage on the opponents' top receiver. That strategy would not have helped very much on the Texans'
first downs. The Texans had 7 other receivers that caught passes. Walter’s 11 catches out of 26 non-Johnson receptions gives a different picture of that strategy. Having Rogers and Hall on the opponents two top receivers is another approach, but there are likely negatives there as well. "And I thought Matt Schaub was going to throw for 150 yards a week as part of the Texans’ historic march to 16-0. He did his best work against DeAngelo Hall’s defense on first down, where he went 17-of-21 (with two sacks) and picked up the five yards or more needed for a “successful” pass 12 different times. Interesting schematic note: Only one of those 12 successful passes was to Andre Johnson." http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2010/week-2-quick-reads
I'll admit it...
I have a “thing” for the 49ers. It began with their continued employment of Shaun Hill and Vernon Davis (despite acting exactly like a 1st round bust his first year and a half), and after watching them again last night, I’m in full swoon. Their LBs are scary fast and tackle so well. Gore made something from nothing several times last night.
Glad I’m not alone in thinking the Eagles are doomed for handing the car keys back to Kolb. It’s Andy’s job, so whatever.
The crowd was great, but sitting in the “limited view” section, the PA is too loud at all times. That and the PA announcer editorializes too much. Give it to me clean, not “Portis fights valiantly against all odds for a gain of one”.
Sellers was fine as a pass-catcher Sunday, he did a nice job on the opening drive, even if he wasn’t targeted after that. Not sure what was up with his blocking on running plays though.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Good...
because that’s where I’ll be in my remaining games this year!
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Sep 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
good post
I agree on #7 that there should have been some kind of adjustment to focus on Andre Johnson as he’s easily 1 of the top 5 WRs in the league if not #1. But let;s give some credit to the Houston offense – they are dynamic and explosive.
- is my favorite comment – boy would I love to see them 0-3!
It’s like putt ing Charlie Sheen in a room full of aspiring actresses. You know EXACTLY what’s going to happen.
I just wanted people to read that again, good stuff.
"You're fucking out!"
Sellars
I really don’t care for a fullback being targeted in the passing game, he shouldn’t be a huge factor in it. What he should be a huge factor in and what he is failing at from what i’ve seen is run blocking.
"You're fucking out!"
I don't care either way
about the FB being in the passing game. If he can be used to our advantage – especially since the running game sucks – I’m all for it. But as you say, he better damn sure be blocking his ass off regardless.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Good answer. The only reason we should pick him up would be for eye candy, whats the dumb broad’s name he’s married too that’s in playboy?
"You're fucking out!"
Eagles make Vick the starter
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5601286
Nice Kevin, way to rile Reid up and ruin for everybody in the division. I was also looking forward to the Kolb era. Vick is too much of a wild card to feel totally comfortable playing against.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Whoops
I get the two of you confused sometimes.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 22, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

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