Redskins Training Camp: Updates on Horton, Dennis Morris, and Nose Tackles
John Keim has covered the Washington Redskins since 1994. Follow his work at WashingtonExaminer.com.
Here's our latest Q&A with Redskins beat writer, John Keim. We discuss the progress of Dennis Morris, Chris Horton, and Chad Rinehart...and how the backup Nose Tackles are competing since one of them will likely be out starter.
Hogs Haven: How has Dennis Morris looked? (is he getting a lot of time as FB/H-Back/TE?). What team is he primarily playing with?
Can't say that I've seen him do a whole lot. Tried to focus on him a couple times and only saw him blocking from an H-back spot. He was OK, but I really need to see more. They plan to use him in various spots.
Hogs Haven: With Ma'ake only be 60%, it's clear we can't count on him to be the starter all year (he was over 380 lbs at one point last year). Who is emering as the better NT starter: Antonio Bryant or Howard Green? (ie: pushing back the OL, stuffing the middle, who's bigger in size?)
I think this will be an issue if Kemo gets hurt. I haven't been a big fan of Bryant, at least early in camp. He seemed to get to upright, a major problem for a nose tackle (or any lineman for that matter). Even at the snap he's too tall for my taste.
Hogs Haven: Has anyone announced what Albert's current, actual weight is?
No, but in all honesty the issue is not the weight. He actually looks good, especially compared to last season. He looks better than others on the team. But there's a difference between being thinner and being in shape. And if you hurt your knee on the second day running a test, that's not a good sign.
Hogs Haven: The last couple years the defense has always looked miles better than the defense, which unit has been better overall so far (ie: winning the daily battles)?
The defense has been more consistent, but that's fairly typical. The defense is showing a lot of looks and I think that leads to confusion, which leads to some rugged play by the offense. The secondary has looked the best overall.
Hogs Haven: I read that Artis Hicks is getting pushed into the back-field quite a bit. Should we be concerned at this point, and if so, does Rinehart have a chance to win that job? How has he looked coming off his major injury?
Yes, Hicks has looked spotty. He's getting pushed back because he stands too tall. Part of that could be a function of having switched from right tackle; at guard, you have to get a little lower inside. My problem is that 6-6 Adam Carriker is getting lower than the 6-4 Hicks. However, he looked better today and he does seem to work well with Jammal Brown. But I do think it's something to watch (I talked to someone the other day who kept shaking his head over the fact that Hicks was starting). Rinehart has actually looked solid vs. the reserves. He's been more consistent with his base and he's playing with good strength. I'm not yet getting excited over him and right now view him mainly as a guy who, if something happened to Brown then Hicks could move outside and Rinehart could go to RG.
Hogs Haven: Chris Horton seems to be a ghost these days...is he making any plays or still nursing the toe injury? The Redskins have to have the most depth at SS than any team in the league.
I've seen Horton make a play on a blitz, but that's about it. Really, outside of his first couple games in the NFL I haven't seen him make many plays. They do have good depth at SS, but I would prefer Doughty in front of him at this spot because he's a better blitzer.
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Nothing from Dennis Morris?
Where’s LJP at, this must be a typo…
Damn I hope I didn't waste money
on that Horton jersey.
This NT situation has me worried
it seems like I have been reading articles all this offseason about how the NT is the most important position in a 3-4 and we have no idea, with preseason right around the corner, who is even going to play it.
I'm betting it'll be Lorenzo Alexander
j/k of course
by SkinsOsTerps on Aug 5, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We can make this the training camp thread
Haynesworth is getting a MRI and Furrey has a concussion
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
MRI
About time they did one for that knee of his.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 5, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Drafted lineman
I think he’s the only one in that horrid Cerrato era lol. I’ll look it up.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 5, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
ACORN RULE
I’d like to think the acorn rule applies to Reinhart…..you know….even a blind squirrel (Cerrato) finds an acorn once in a while…….
are you sure that applies
to a blind squirrel, who was dropped on its head during its infancy, with a limp, missing an arm, that all the other squirrels hate and therefore leave no acorns for him to find, ever finds any?
couldn’t help myself
but in this scenario
vinny’s also a crippled squirrel, so it’s ok
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Chris Samuels.....
He was drafted by VC
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Aug 6, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cerrato and Drafting OL FAIL(s)
OK Vinny hired in ‘99 (after 99 draft) fired in ’01 by Marty re-hired in ’02. In that time period OL’men drafted:
2000: Chris Samules RD 1
2002 Reggie Coleman RD 6 (no games played) & Jeff Grau rd 7
2004 Mark Wilson RD 5 ( 2 games) & Jim Molinaro (15 games)
2006 Kili Lefotu RD 7 (0 games played)
Soooo as you can see no linemen drafted above RD 4 (not counting Samules) which as we all know has led to the non-depth issues.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 5, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to be all "statty"
But how many picks overall were there in that era? Several were traded away, and I am by no means defending The Vinny, but what percentage of picks were these 6? Given the limited number of picks, depth at every position and the “pick the best athlete available at the time” rule of drafting may have been a big factor in not seeing an abundance of OL draftees to back up two of the more dependable lineman (Jansen and Samuels) and “the other guys”. Sucks like hell to be in a down cycle in linemen, but every position goes through rebuilding depth woes at some point.
Maybe I’m barking up a dead tree, but I had to ask…
To answer my own question -
65 draft picks from 2000 – 2009. 8 were OL. That’s roughly 13%. Throw in some crappy picks (Mario Monds in 2001, a punter – Durant Brooks in 6th round of 2008, and Jordan Palmer. Period. in ’07). In 2003 we only had three picks, and one of them was Derrick Dockery, backed up by 2 OL picks in 2004. Not the grreatest ratio, but not overly neglected when looking at the number of picks. Sooooo, looks like the scouting ability of the ’skins is what needed to be questioned, and not necessarily their commitment to bolstering the line. Especially when you throw in a few FA signings.
It was completely neglected when you look at the value of the picks used.
Until 2010 we hadn’t used a first or second rounder on OL since Chris Samuels.
It was pathetic.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
of the 16
1 – 2 round picks, the only player that really never was useful was Taylor Jacobs (I kinda want to include Ramsey, ok, I’ll include Ramsey) hence, the "best player available thing. Could they have bundled late picks to move up? Sure! And they probably should have, but that’s the 20/20 hindsight thing. The best player available thing did sting though. Look at the ’05 draft for instance. Manuel White in the 4th round picked directly before Duke Preston, Jason Brown and Todd Herremans. Yes, they have had their individual issues, but they at least played for at least 5 years on the line in the NFL.
Then that period is a prime example of how "BPA" can't be followed as an absolute rule
How many 1/2 round picks were used on WR and secondary? All of them? (you have to include trades too)
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Sadly, the Redskins really wanted Courtney Brown
Luckily the Browns are stupider than Snyderatto
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That draft
I recall the Skins wanting LaVar & Samuels, they showed how excited the"war room" was about the Browns taking DE Brown..
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 5, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This whole team is a total wild card
Can’t wait for the first preseason game to see what personnel packages actually make it out on the field.
AH - injury
He’s not taking the test because of an injury – no question of malingering – the trainers won’t let him. He can’t take the test or practice, and probably shouldn’t run much. Just have to wait, and do the MRI. I wouldn’t think it is serious, season threatening – I assumed more like a bruise (painful, but goes away). The test is a useful exercise, builds endurance (which AH needs), but it would be better as a drill rather than a timed test. Maybe Mike can just determine that the current test is a little hard on AH’s knees, and let him take (after the knee settles down) a pure running test, that doesn’t demand sharp turns, but still tests stamina. Let him practice, maybe prescribe some extra stamina building exercises for him. I would bet he will start at DE on 9/13.
by Donnio1234 on Aug 5, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Son of a gun - would have missed the big game!
I got confused with 8/13 and 9/12. Getting old.
On the plus side
Your game experience would have improved vis a vis traffic and your ability to see the field. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
ISO Offensive Guard
willing to over-pay and restructure as needed.
Call Danny, 1-800-SixFlags.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
OT: Texans fan here looking to go to game at FedExField
Where is a good place to sit? If I sit in a lower level sideline location will my view be obstructed? If I sit in the Upper Level will I even be able to see the game/avoid being shanked(mostly kidding on this one, I mean it aint Philly or NY amiright?)? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
as a Texan fan you might just get shanked on general principles.....
kidding of course…..and I have no answer to your question.
It really just depends on how
big an @zzhole he really his. 99% of the time we really let things slide – being outnumbered.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I don't think your view will be obstructed anywhere
I sit in the lowest level, 20 rows up, great view. I have seen one game from the club level which was awesome. I have family that have sat in the higest sections, and they still said the view was fine.
Only thing you have to worry about with obstructed view is the 200 level and a high row #
Texans won’t drive a high ticket value, I’d just get a LL ticket.
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I usually sit in the upper deck "cheap seats" and opposition fans are treated fine.
There’s some trash talking back and forth, but no fights unless everyone’s had way too much to drink and the “talk” goes way too far.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I would say a Texan fan had nothing to worry about
except that I was witness to a brawl involving a KC Chiefs fan last season. I think it’s probably fair to chock that up as a crazy, one time thing. Or so I hope.
The only time I've seen things get heated
is when one side or the other takes it too far and makes it too personal. But usually you can see the conflict happening from a mile away because the dudes have had way too much to drink.
Cheer for your team. Don’t pick a fight. And everyone will be fine.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
whatch out for...
Lower level tickets that are cheap (under the 99 face value). One of my buddies thought he was getting a good deal, but was behind a gigantic pillar. He watched the game on a 13 inch tube the skins hung there.
We are row 26 on the lower bowl, awesome view. The section directly behind us has the pillars that do obstruct. We started in the upper deck, no obstruction issues that I recall…
My give a damn broke.
by davesomethin on Aug 5, 2010 8:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, his MRI came back negative
He’s going to have to play through the irritation now.
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